/lit/ - Literature

Rape is a plot device bad writers use as a crutch to create drama.

>>19127561
Correct. They should use it as entertainment for the reader to fap to if they want, no need to bother with the drama part.

Fantasy doesn't feature lots if rape? I don't read
Fantasy doesn't feature misogyny? I don't read
Fantasy doesn't feature women beaten to death with bare knuckles? I don't read

>>19127594
Why do you spergs get so assmad about rape?

>>19127611
Because it's half the reason why female characters even exist stories. Other is them getting pregnant.

A man will never win a Hugo award anymore.

If you look at new published fantasy authors today it’s almost all women. Would it be good idea to try get a book published as a white man just because the scene is starting to lack male writers other than Brando Sando?

>>19127616
So?

>>19127618
>Would it be good idea to try get a book published as a white man
Traditional publishing is/has already gone the way of the dodo. It's obsolete, there's absolutely no reason not to publish digitally.
The biggest issue with digital publishing is the simple fact that Amazon is a fucking garbage website with terrible sorting/recommendation algorithms, but all it takes is one semi-competent web dev to make a site to steal all that traffic from Amazon by solving that problem.

>>19127618
the environment is heavily stacked against you but if you have stories you want to write and put out there you should keep going

>>19127611
Using rape as a focus of even a part of a story is a symptom of being a massive simp. I don't want to read about rape because I don't want to read about some womans FEEEWIINGS for a dozen pages. The only people who want rape in a story are people who actually give a shit about women.

The Thing is the best movie ever made.

>>19127618
I think that, given how fucked up everything is now, that if you want to write, you should write for yourself primarily. If you have a story you want to write, then do it, and try to get it out of there if you want to (through self-publishing or traditional), but don't be disappointed if it goes nowhere.

>>19127627
That's why you shouldn't use it for drama. Rape is fap material.

>>19127634
I think the only thing more pathetic than finding rape in fictional stories hot would be getting offended by rape in fictional stories.

>>19127639
Why is that a problem?

>>19127639
>t. simp

Fantasy features strong, capable female characters who kick ass? I read it
Fantasy features respectable, tolerant, progressive, and racially diverse male characters? I read it
Fantasy features gay and lesbian romance presented in a non-judgemental way? I read it

>>19127688
i'm sorry anon, i hope they can remove the brain tumor

>>19127688
Is there a procedure that can have your testicles restored or is there no hope?

>>19127688
t. picrel

>>19127548
What do you do fellow /sffg/ when you feel buorned out from reading?

>>19127743
i stare out the window and occasionally watch a suicidal thought wriggle out from the white noise before it dives back under

>>19127561
>nobody is raped in real life

>>19127622
>>19127623
>>19127631
I mean, wouldn’t they have a fiscal reason to also pander to a male audience that isn’t looking forward to reading about black Mary Sues who kill evil men? I think there is untapped profits for returning back to books like Dune or PoN

>>19127803
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message. They don't care about profits, they don't care about the business they work for, they just want to shit up a medium that people like because they get off on it.

>>19127803
These are ideological actors. They have no profit motive. It's also one of the reasons they win, because their only goal is to destroy.

>>19127809
Holy shit the Tolkien seminar is not a meme.

>>19127820
It is now.

So we going to discuss books or should I wait for the next thread?

>>19127823
I meant it’s real and the image of >>19127809 is not made up

>>19127823
Oh no, they've won. This is now the current state of Tolkien scholarship.

>>19127826
I finished Dune yesterday and I liked it. A solid 3,5/5. Going to continue reading the three next books. I can clearly see how Dune influenced Bakker’s work, especially Kellhus’s character.

>>19127826
Just wait for the next thread. There’s no saving it with shitposters like >>19127836

Howdy, so I am working on a story and I really like the idea of having it as a closed time loop. Where the beginning of the story is heavily influenced by the middle and end of the story and the main character has no idea to start, but by the time the loop restarts it all comes into place.

Any suggestions on how to capture that correctly? Any pitfalls to avoid?

>>19127846
Closed time loop is the pitfall. It will make sense inside the time loop that it will have out of the loop loose ends like Bakker has with The Outside not being connected to time. Things that happened after affect things that happened before because things that happened before lead to things happening after. It is tiresome

>>19127846
Go to /wg/ or somewhere else. All you’ll get here is just a bunch of shit responses like >>19127862

>>19127846
>Any pitfalls to avoid?
Writing a story with a closed time loop. I can only think of one time it's been done well and that was more than 50 years ago, and also it was an adaptation of an even older story.

>>19127839
>(You)

>>19127870
Based
>>19127869
Cringe

>>19127839
>>19127869
Fuck off

>>19127882
He only got mad because the messages mentioned Bakker. Any message with the word Bakker is guaranteed to get a reply from him if it portrays Bakker in neutral or good light.

This is then follows by tons of posts about rape

>>19127803
men and people in general don't read

>>19127914
Unfortunate that there exists such social balkanisation nowadays. Men are in general completely separated from women outside romantic relationships.

are there any comfy sci-fi's about a man who works in a furure chinese factory that has lots of awesome 3000 rpm spinning machinery and no Health & Safety standards?

>>19127934
Will there be live feeds of factory injuries in the future?

>>19127934
This is sff general, not non-fiction

>>19127921
>nowadays
It was common for 99% of known history, and relapsed to this state even after decades of quasi-religious equality propaganda that achieved nothing but adding more annoyances to everyone's lives. It's almost like how it's supposed to work and you shouldn't try to fix what isn't broken.

>>19127979
Literature (frankly, all intellectual pursuit) is the natural province of men, however.

>>19128000
Most men aren't even supposed to be able to read. Unfortunately Enlightenment activists have mistaken, and beating literacy into people won't automatically make them interested in intellectual pursuits.

>>19127688

>>19128023
Technology necessitates that the majority of people be able to read.

>>19128027
Unironically, don’t feed the troll.

>>19127937
>>19127936
I was thinking this but it looks like its from the star trek universe or something

Its the year 2150. cruise ships are orbiting earth from various nations like china, on board are indulgent tourists who don't care about space only about instagram followers, the ship is part chinese part american and has lots of awesome cyberpunk lights and 3000rpm spinning machines, its a noir tale about how life can really spin you around if your not careful. anyway onboard the ship is one protagonist who is a certified forklift driver and hardworking man , but times are tough and he's ended up doing entertainer work, with no Health & Safety standards. Its like a carnival in space and he's sick of how bad society has got.

Its a rough outline but i really like the idea of tourists in space on orbiting cruise ships, pic kind of related.

>>19122393
Ma'am.

Has anybody brought about Blue Collar SciFi yet?

>>19128191
Alien.

>>19128253
That's not blue collar sci fi that's typical mary sue hero garbage. Give me a book that goes over in detail the shifts of the guy who had to actually use that cargo loader.

How do you recover from a series that sets the standard? are there any books you’ve read when you just…had to take a break or stop reading altogether or stopped reading a new series due to the quality of the last?

With me it has only happened a few times

Malazan
Bakker
Tender is the flesh

are there any sci fi about a young man who has a stick , a hobo story set in like a super advanced future city where everything moves super fast juxtaposed to this sad old hobos way of limping through life because he used to work at a chinese steel mill.

>>19128023
someone likes the stormlight archives

>>19128269
starfish by peter watts comes to mind

>>19127809
The caste and Chinese translations one seems like it could be interesting.

>Kindle freezes once a day and the orange light flashes while it's on
>Started happening immediately after their new update
What the fuck did Amazon do

>>19128396
Weird my paper books have never had this problem

>>19128416

>>19128396
Works on my kindle.

>>19128813
>>19128396
>Grandfather, where are all your books?
<Oh they are all on this device over here.
>What is it?
<Its Kindle, it can hold thousands of books
>Does it work?
<Not anymore... and Amazon no longer exists
>Is that not a sad thing grandpa?

>>19128894
>progress synced digitally on all my devices
>old model dies or gets replaced
>just log in and have access to my entire library at any time
Pa...per? What's that, grandpa?

>>19128930
The problem is trusting a company like Amazon. You should have all of your ebooks as normal files that you have backed up on local storage.

>>19128930
>please scan vaxxport to access your library

>>19127548
All /sffg/fags must hang

>>19128096
Literally where's the conflict. Nobody wants to read about slice of life workers rights appeals. We can do that reading the news. If you want to write about something moral it needs a believable and useful vehicle so that the elements of your message can be attributed to actual variables.

Might as well just write a visual novel and sell it to weebs if your only goal is random slice of life.

>>19128983
>stop thinking about liking something I don't want

anyone know where I could find a download of this book? I read somewhere Patrick Tilley OK'd it being uploaded to the internets, it's pretty rare and hard to find and when you can find it it's ridiculously expensive

Also thoughts on the Amtrak Wars series? I bought the whole series, I've heard it's good but the ending is unsatisfying and abrupt. I'm working my way thru Cloud Warrior, about halfway done and I'm enjoying it. I like how the mythology of the Mutes reflects more contemporary times, it's similar to what BotNS does in creating myths from our world in terms of a future society

>>19129008
This killed the thread

Is it worth buying used copies of out-of-print books of minor sci-fi authors or should they be forgotten unless they were really important/impactful to the genre?

>>19127561
What about
>A man told this woman she couldn't do something so she did it and now the entire world hates her

>>19129403
You should hoard as many out of print books as you can.

>>19129430
Why?

>>19129494
They only get more valuable over time.

>>19129494

>>19129403
If the books are not easily available online then yeah, definitely. Plus you get to make your own library with tons of obscure titles

>>19129504
*if you take care of them, i.e., keep them in a dry basement with no exposure to sunlight, also make sure your hands are greasy when you read them

>>19127548
>not!Book Club
now: the scar https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/68497.The_Scar
spooktober:
songs of a dead dreamer and grimscribe https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611567-songs-of-a-dead-dreamer-and-grimscribe
the dark eidolon and other fantasies https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18143067-the-dark-eidolon-and-other-fantasies
nov 1: assassin's apprentice https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77197.Assassin_s_Apprentice

>>19127132
excellent review, chap

>>19129783
>also make sure your hands are greasy
*are NOT greasy

Could someone check Bibliotik for a full upload of Stellar Transformation?

>>19128396
>**BEEP** Problematic works have been detected on your device, voiding all content **BEEP**

>>19127561
violence is a plot device bad writers use as a crutch to create drama

>>19127561
>bad things can't happen in stories because... they just can't OKAY?

>>19129783
Even if you just keep them on a shelf and don't become an autistic archivist they will appreciate in value as more copies are lost / destroyed over time. Note that "more valuable" does not necessarily mean "will make you rich". The value of rare out of print books is equal to the demand from the people who want to own said rare, out of print books. Sometimes nobody really cares if a book is out of print. I own a lot of out of print books that were worth pennies when I bought them and are worth single digit dollars now because the people buying them probably number in the low teens.

>>19129884
Things happening is a plot device bad writers use as a crutch to create stories.

>>19129790
Better the first time

https://pastebin.com/a2CsaDJx

>>19129790
Won't oil protect paper from drying out and becoming fragile?

whats her story bro's?

Is The Foundation really worth reading? I watched the first 2 episodes but it just seems like a generic sci-fi action story, like Ancillary Justice without the Indian/AI twist. I always hear Foundation and Asimov listed as must-reads for scifi fans but while the show seems to have some interesting scifi weirdness like an empire ruled by clones of different ages, there isn't anything that seems very iconic or groundbreaking.

Or is this a case of Asimov was the first to do something and now all scifi does it so it doesn't seem original to me?

>>19130511
Are you honestly going to judge a classic sci fi novel by modern woke television? I'm surprised people can even watch that shit

>>19130482
I doubt the oil that forms on human skin has any redeemable quantities. Otherwise I would finally have a marketable feature, and that isn't allowed to happen in this existence.

>>19130528
Why? It was pretty good as a popcorn munching TV series. Visually stunning. The only real woke shit I saw was the poor aliens executed in episode 2 were women or non-white and the main character is a black woman. Oh and Hari's protege guy was a thief who stole rare manuscripts for his hardworking dad's medicine and his black dad isn't a deadbeat drunk like Hari said.

>>19130570
just read the book, this is painful to read. Again can't see how you can stomach that

What's your favorite monster from the Conan the Barbarian books? The fire demon from Beyond the Black River really does it for me personally. I have yet to come across an illustration that captures it the way I picture yet though

>>19130511
Listen to the old 12 part English radio show of it from the 70s

>>19130597
I should read these one day, my only real experience with Conan is the game

>>19130607
Which game? I thought the mmo was a pretty amazing recreation of the world, but I couldnt really get into it because I dont like mmos

>>19130632
conan exiles

>>19129794
!

>>19130632
>pretty amazing recreation of the world
It really was. Funcom took great care to do the books justice but the game itself still sucked. I wish more adaptions had that much heart put into them though.

>>19130718
If they has just focused on making a regular single player rpg it would have been 10/10

hate reddit so much. got 3 day ban from r/printsf for saying the asimov awards are all women and minorities

>>19131034
how about you just stay on reddit, faggot

>>19131063
no
faggot

If you think this book might be for you, it probably is. Good setting that changes every volume, a train level, adventure, light humor and banter, a few feels. Yes, stay away if you get that vibe but I found it charming and would read volume 5 immediately if it were available today.

>>19130653
Never played it. I dont km now why it's so hard to get someone to just make a regular single player Conan rpg game already

>>19131214
>mmos make money right? let's make one of those
>survival crafts are popular right? let's make one of those
they're just trying to follow trends

>>19129559
Half an hour
Half an hour
Half an hour

Kings of /sffg/

>>19131329
who's the guy on the left?

>>19131092
>The Running Man but in a fantasy dungeon
I'm sold

>>19131214
>>19131227
I've always thought that something like The Witcher games but with Conan would be really cool. Funcom might even be able to do it themselves.

>>19131343
Joe Abercrombie. He’s like the pulp counterpart to Sanderson. That may be selling him short, but he’s the better of the two.

>>19131343
Lord Grimdark himself.

This general producing nothing of quality. You wanna know quality? The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R Tolkien https://s3.amazonaws.com/scschoolfiles/112/j-r-r-tolkien-lord-of-the-rings-01-the-fellowship-of-the-ring-retail-pdf.pdf.. It has thousands of years of history, 15 languages he has written for it, and has maps drawn by himself to show the world he what he is telling. He even has realistic scenarios like giant tree people being angry at deforestation and elves and dwarves talking. There is this whole scene where a short hairy footed man answers riddles of a dilapidated version of himself. Oh did I mention, he can actually write songs! This whole general is one pig procrastination project by the dregs of society. Learn how to actually write good stuff like J.R.R Tolkien or don't write at all. Pic related, what caring and dedication looks like.

>>19131453
You don't know what 'pulp' is. Shut up.

>>19131611
Haha. It’s a fair assessment. Are you Butthurt?

>>19131623
He is; I can feel it.

>>19131623
>>19131630

>>19131646
idiot. I browse /qa/ 2 hours a day and have developed an immunity to wojak posting. Better luck next time loser.

>>19131666
lol nigga you mad as fuck

>>19131365
I hadn't even thought of that, but yes, the author is clearly a gen-xer and that's his frame of reference. It's like The Running Man with Rarity.

>>19131672
>talks like a nigger
yeah your finished kid. You have lost all my respect.

>>19131666
> I have this routine that got me used to a 10 year old meme
solid trips tho

>>19131677
Do you mean item rarity because he's in a dungeon or THAT Rarity

>>19131698
I mean one of the characters is a fabulous drama queen.

>>19131678
MAD
AS
FUCK

>>19131698
c93c67a4aea3804e36bcbe8dfac0ba5b00429fca
Give it an hour or two and if it doesn't measure up, it doesn't measure up.

>>19131092
Sounds neat, I'll buy it to check it out.

Waiting on:
Endlords
The Killing God
Winds of Winter
What final book have you been waiting on for years?

>>19132917
none to be honest, I'm not going to spend time now putting hopes on a future product

>>19131666
We accept your defeat.

>>19131329
Kings of shit prose, you mean.

>>19133284
Based.

There can only be one king, and we all know who that man is.

>>19127688
This, but unironically.

>>19127688
mm, food for thought

>>19133284
the spren shit pops up way too often was fucking annoying

>>19133455
yeah I was never down with it. It's just a weird concept, and is a shitty substitute for actually describing characters' emotions

>>19127548
anyone else likes to dig into old magazines online?

>>19133819
if anyone asks, sauce is
https://archive.org/details/cyberpunkvirtual00time

Does anyone here play interactive fiction or text based adventure games? I worked out I can make it on Twine, and I’d love to make some sword and sorcery interactive stories. I’m just wondering if anyone knows anyone making SFF interactive fiction or text based games…

>the plan was that fleet would follow a partially closed timelike path, plunging deep into the future (staying within the scope of a light cone with its apex drawn on New Prague at the time of first warning of attack), then use the black boxes attached to their drive modules to loop back into the past. Without quite breaking the letter of the Eschaton’s law—Thou shalt not globally violate causality—the fleet would arrive in orbit around Rochard’s World just after the onslaught of the Festival, far faster than such a task force would normally cover the eight hops separating them from the colony world. In the process, it would loop around any forces sent by the enemy to intercept a straightforward counter-strike—and pick up a time capsule containing analyses of the battle written by future historians, the better to aid the Admiral’s planning.

>>19131666
based

>>19133284
Why do fantasy writers suck at capturing any sort of gravity or etiquette in characters. They're invariably writing about a stratified society yet they make everyone speak like they're in a teen romance movie.

>>19135221
because its become so commonplace that nobody questions it; giving different voices to characters with different backgrounds is something that even great writers struggle with, though

>>19135236
It leaves out an entire dimension though. It's how you characterise and give weight to events and interactions and characters. You can have drama just in the way characters address eachother. I think taking it to the extreme could be interesting but you don't need to do that, just basic differentiation of voice and status.

>>19135221
This is why in my fantasy novel all nobility speak in thees/thous and all common people speak in ebonics.

>>19135272
Tolkien used very lightly archaic English (i.e. slightly different syntax + thees/thous) for characters that were old. This has been copied and it's why dragons in fantasy often speak archaic-like.

>>19135272
>>19135293
>Where goest thou, peasant? State thy business.
>Shit nigga I bout to steal me some victuals gotdam what a nigga got to do to get some food

>>19135272
Why ebonics and not an organic glossary of wobbly terms relevant to your setting?

would you?

>>19135579
punch this strange creature in the face? yes

>>19135587
what a faggot dude, why you are like that holy shit

any comfy sci-fi stories about Janitors and Mechanics the blue-collar guys who have to work in shitty factories with no Health & Saftey standards and lots of 3000rpm spinning machines that make LE FUTURE CARPETS. you know? something set in like China where there are live video links in the factories that survail you constantly handling the aweseome machinery.

and you look out the window and its Tesla star trek, but your just an NPC sadly and don't get to see the high concept stuff.
The story is all a big tease of whats out there in the universe, if i were to sum it up.

>>19135652
what would you consider NOT comfy?

>>19135652
NO, dude. Just write it yourself, goddamnit.

>>19135684
>what would you consider NOT comfy?
If it contains Negroes.

>>19136018
uncomfortable?

>>19136278
very

I'm new to reading modern fantasy and maybe it is because I'm coming off of Tolstoy, but I picked up The Final Empire and it is almost unbearable. How does this get reviewed so highly?

most of my characters have plot armor but it's because the story literally will not progress without them. How do I make it seem like they don't have plot armor and anyone can die?

>>19136471
Make the characters suffer consequences (they get maimed or injured) or make the people closest to them die. Or if you've finished a character's arc consider killing them off

>>19136491
gonna blind one of them i think.

they're not getting out of this shit unscathed, the little bastards.

Which authors you think deserve a FUCK YOU for dragging a book / series out writing phase out, instead of saying they hit a wall and plan to move onto something else?

>>19136496
Lol my main character lost an ear. This shit ain't a fairy tale

>>19135221
>Jnan is an informal code of manner and speech understood by many to be a "war of word and sentiment". Adeptness at jnan is understood, particularly by the more refined subcultures of the Three Seas, to be the key determinant of status among individuals who are otherwise of equal caste of station. Given that the God is believed to be manifested in the movement of history, and history is determined primarily by the disparate statuses of men, for many jnan is understood as a sacred and not simply an instrumental enterprise. Many others, however, especially the Norsirai of the Three Seas, regard jnan with contempt, as a "mere game". Jnanic exchanges are typically characterized by concealed antagonism, the appreciation of irony and intellect, and the semblance of detached interest
Bakkerchads prevail once again

>>19136517
You already know who that was before hitting "post".

The one and only GRRM. The fat man who has spent a decade on a book and probably will spend a decade more

>>19131092
Fuck that ugly sissy cat fagget. Carl should have fucked the cat by now.

>>19136517
Is there even a precedent of a fantasy author coming out and honestly admitting that they don't know how to end and/or don't care about their epic cycle anymore and won't bother?

>>19136471
Add a character who seems like he has plot armor and kill him.

>>19136557
ah the ned stark approach

good idea

>>19127548
Still thinking about Ezr and Trixia from A Deepness in the Sky.

Any books where the protagonist just rips and tears but isn't a complete edge lord? what I'm' asking for is essentially conan but not conan because I have already read conan.

>>19136378
because its good

>>19136933
In Savage Lands by Jason Thummel is an anthology, but features plenty of S&S style ripping and tearing.

>>19136527
WE SLEEP TOGETHER EVERY NIGHT AND YOU'VE NEVER TOUCHED ME CARL.

>>19133284
Stormlight Archive? That's pretty meh

>>19137402
I don't find it funny how it communicates in all caps either. I hate animal companions.

Read The Fisherman.

>>19135652
based 3000rpm spinning machine poster

Rereading Starship Troopers for the first time in like, over a decade. I didn't manage to finish it the last time, I'm ten chapters in and they're STILL in boot camp...

When does the fucking war/fighting start?

>>19137473
page 1

>>19137546
That's the prologue dummy. Doesn't count.

Let's be honest here, Starship Troopers has been surpassed by Hieronym's To The Stars.

Trying to make this as specific as possible. I would like recommendations for sci-fi novels. In the past couple of months I have read and enjoyed The Martian, Project Hail Mary, The Three Body Problem, Roadside Picnic, Logan's Run, A Boy and His Dog, Snow Crash and 2010: Odyssey Two. I hear Seveneves is good. Maybe that? I've also given thought to the graphic novel Transmetropolitan.

Thank you.

>>19137639
You like that hamster wheel that runs in your head to be engaged, so read Quarantine by Greg Egan. And yeah, Seveneves is good.

>>19137473
Read it long ago but IIRC there isn't that much war and fighting and book consists mostly of author contemplating ideas about military and society with science fiction premise being used as a vehicle.

>>19137660
Oops I am no longer Princess Donut.

>>19137660
Thank you. :)

Fantasy books with civilisations/warrior castes modelled on Old Japan and the samurai? Are there even any that aren't just cringe weebshit? I'm thinking up a story and want to see how that kind of background has been done before.

>>19137820
Read Shogun (or is that too weeb?) or Eiji Yoshikawa's stuff

>>19136543
Nope because then they'd lose all that precious attention and they'd have to actually write again to make money since people would stop fawning over them.

>>19136557
>>19136565
At least make him unlikable. Couldn't believe he killed my nigga Ned.

>>19136378
Fantasy is a plot-and-setting genre, mainly. Characters being well-written is a huge plus and books that manage to have them tend to be very popular, but it's by no means required to be a successful fantasy author. Brandon Sanderson struggles to write compelling characters, or non-cringe-worthy dialogue, yet he's a titan of the epic fantasy landscape.

>>19137922
Sad but so true.

>>19128393
the soviet illustration one too

>>19137922
Sanderson writes combat logs from an MMO very well.

>>19137922
This is a sad but true reality, which is why writers that put in the effort to do even mediocre character work like Hobb are hailed as literal geniuses

>>19131343

>>19133290
he looks like he sucks a LOT of cock

>>19135221
yes this is very bad

>>19137922

>>19136378
Just read Throne of Glass

>Throne of Glass is a young adult high fantasy novel series by American author Sarah J. Maas, beginning with Throne of Glass, released in August 2012. The story follows the journey of Celaena Sardothien, a teenage assassin in a corrupt kingdom with a tyrannical ruler, The King of Adarlan.
good god

>>19138126
Don't be ridiculous, that was written by a Lady.

>>19138142
>>19138146
newfags

Is William Gibson actually good? I found Neuromancer to be poorly written and outdated

>>19138243
Maybe you were filtered, haveyou thought about that?

>>19138429
yeah, why I asked the question

>>19138243
>I found Neuromancer to be poorly written and outdated
Just say you were filtered and spare yourself the humiliation.

No wonder xianxia exists for the slant-eyed. With blacks in western countries, you gotta learn to rap or play basketball or something to escape your impoverished upbringing but chinks have to escape their ENTIRE country and what better way than to transcend reality, becoming the strongest thing to exist where nobody can tell you what to do?

Anyone know of some good ayy abductioncore horror stories?
Every sci-fi novel I've read have just been adventures in the future, but would like to try some modern day or historical spooks

>>19138512
What if King Arthur was a girl and a cultivator?

>And in the wake of the battle, some climbed the mastodon carcasses, held their swords out to the glare of the sun, and understood things they did not know.
The Holy War had been absolved.
Forgiven.
The surviving Grandees were strung from many-boughed sycamores, and in the evening light they hung, like drowned men floating up from the deep. And though years would pass, none would dare touch them. They would sag from the nails that fixed them, collapse into heaps about the base of their trees. And to anyone who listened, they would whisper a revelation … The secret of battle.
Indomitable conviction. Unconquerable belief.

For once, something /lit/ memed me into reading is actually absolute kino, good on you lads.

>>19138804
are you the guy who wanted snowy books

>>19138626
Arthurian legend is already halfway there.

Any good Fantasy with Germanics? Anything set in Anglo-Saxon Britain would be very appreciated.

>>19137897
I read Shogun earlier this year and thought it was really good. I'll look into Yoshikawa's work, I think I was already planning to read Musashi so I'll bump it up my list.

Isn't Foundation one of the 'flagship' series of golden age scifi? imo it would be Dune, Hyperion, and Foundation

So why is there no hype despite the Apple backing? Why are there only 4k people on the subreddit?

Even iRobot was a blockbuster

sci-fi that tells the tale similar to 'Toy Story 2' and 'Small Soldiers', 'Stuart Little 1&2' but with carnival midgets/ robots or dwarvan fantasy characters? preferably set in a dystopian mega-city, mild levels of humor or no humor is fine.

>>19140341
Episodes are out. See for yourself why.

>>19140341
No one watches sci-fi. No one watches Apple TV. It was doomed to fail from the start

>>19138804
are you the guy who wanted hard gay scat, black cum and extreme cuckolding

>>19140288
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Warlord_Chronicles
Same author who wrote Sharpe, so he is pretty good. It is first person though.

>>19140341
Why are you still watching that retarded modern pro-gay pro-black literal-'programming'? Only actual npc's can stomach that stuff, don't compare my classic scifi to that

>>19140666
Thanks. Checked too. The devil hath given me a special gift tonight.

About halfway through shadow of the torturer having never touched anything by gene wolfe before. Feels rather slow and meandering, can I expect this through the rest of botns or does it pick up a bit later?

Opinions?

>>19130511
no its pretty shit honestly. Also your post outs you as a subhuman so youre probably not even enough of a midwit to like it

Next Watts book fucking when?

>>19130570
Disgusting.

>>19138512
The entire genre is a reflection of how fucked up chink society is. Thats is why reverend insanity is the best chinkshit. the protag embodies the insectile chink morality of getting ahead at all costs.

>>19140288
Uhtred of bebbangburg is also by cornwell and is extremely comfy

>>19139688
I know. How to incorporate xianxia?

recommend hard sci-fi that kicks ass

bonus points if it has anything to do with simulations/VR/etc

>>19136378
dude same. I'm 100-some pages in and I'm just not sure I can do it. My friend got me the whole gotdang trilogy, too.

this >>19138066 is exactly how I feel. It feels like I'm reading Sanderson's play-by-play of a fucking MOBA when he describes powers and cooldowns. I just don't understand the hype.

>>19141955
I really liked Mistborn. I couldn't ever get into his other stuff.

>>19141896

>>19141896
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40651883-snow-crash?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=OmYFQRIqP0&rank=2

>>19142007
>He doesn't want to read more scifi like Iron Prince

>>19141896
short story
https://web.archive.org/web/20160413032757/https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19125691-800-i-saw-the-best-minds-of-my-generation-destroyed-by-google/

>>19140569

>>19140341
>>19140569
I think it looks cool

Finally going to read The Three-Body Problem, I have way too many books to read so might as well start with a trilogy. Had 20 books lined up but got 5 more today so I won't be bored for a while. Not sure what I'll read after that because everything looks good.

Anybody read This Is How You Lose The Time War? Looked interesting and figured somebody must of read it here if anybody still reads books here. Got it a while ago but I haven't started it yet so I'll probably read it next.

>>19136522
>Speaking like a chuuni is a divine force
Seems like a pretty based premise actually.

>>19142287
Yes, it was meh. Read the relevant sffg reviews for more info.

>>19127608
>A book about my penis

>>19142287
You should probably just read it yourself and form your own opinion.

>>19127914
Calm down Karen. Men generally work more than women so you're trading the wage gap for book time.
>Pic: interesting read. Basically a short story with heaps of statistics interspersed with saterical observations of the human condition.

>>19127688
>Ann McCaffrey - freedom series
Bonus, she bangs an alien with a giant penis
>Terry Brooks - knight of the world series
No giant penises
>Eon Greg bear
Also no giant penises but it does have a culture that enslaves men
>Pierce Anthony
From despot sex master's to gender bending robot/boy to a full on amoeba that can fuck you outside in or inside out...he's got the 30 book series(s) for you...

>>19127548
Yes, I'm done now. I was never going to become the next Faulkner, the next Nabokov or the next Joyce, but I hid behind the language barrier to avoid criticism for months, maintaining an illusion that was fun to live in while it lasted. I had thought my country's education system was topmost in the world, but this turned out to be utter bollocks. A child of 18, a person ten years my junior, has a greater vocabulary than I, who had to look up the word “topiary”, and no one likes the expression theory of art anymore, I am likened to a long lost dinosaur.
This will be my final post on /lit/. I've been humiliated and exposed as a fraud. My writing is pretentious, infantile, banal drivel. My observations are dull, my language grade school level. My tenses are mixed up; I use colloquialisms, ellipses and onomatopoeia. I mix tired and trite idioms together to obfuscate their unoriginality with a veneer of irony; I have continued to recite ornate Jewish chimpanzee parables with diminishing returns. The parable seemed very clearly to me to be asking me whether or not the now-grown-adult can choose. I say yes, of course, but that's not my issue.
I was never cut out for writing. I began writing my "book" on January 6th. Since then I've produced 82 thousand words for it. These words are a tide of garbage without value, without insight, without form. The themes of time, space, infinity, memory and pointless duelling are not present in my work. It was never real writing, it was anime and weebshit. Look how many words I wrote, because apparently literature is bodybuilding and just aimlessly typing will somehow improve my writing. I don't even know what genre it is that I'm writing. Is it autofiction? A comedy? A picaresque?
Regardless, I have failed. I have put down my pen. Never again will my fingers click-clack across the keyboard. No more outlines, no more characters. Goodbye

>>19127688
I love strong, capable female characters. I made one of the leads in my novel one. She's petite and thin but can still take on guys twice her size, develops a crush on a dorky/awkward knight, and is extremely tsundere-ish. It's a blatant power fantasy because I set out to make exactly that.

>>19127594
Here you go bro

>>19142263
Post your list

>>19138243
His early books were great but are becoming quickly outdated

been playing a lot of stellaris lately
give me a book about conquering various alien peoples and tribes. or humans getting conquered idc
needs to have gratuitous violence and no liberal propaganda. thanks

>>19127688
This, but unironically.

>>19143590
Oh ok

>>19138243
>filtered by Neuromancer
HOW????

>>19144021
Are you really that surprised he was filtered? I mean considering how easily filtered /sffg/ is nothing all to surprising.

Is mother of learning any good?

>>19144095
Wish I could tell you. I started reading it but didn't get far enough to pass any judgment.

>>19130505
Just some bourgeois New Yorker on her cheesie locally made fusion bike. Bitcoin changed nothing much about the eastern seaboard

>>19144122
What about the beginning? Can you at least tell me about that.

>>19144160
Pretty generic. At least the main character isn't starting in his first year of magic high school, although somehow he never signed up for his electives n shieet.

>>19144176
I’ll read the first five chapters and see for myself. Thanks by the way.

>>19141603
You don’t. Just make a western Xianxia

>>19144304
>Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Pelagius the Wise?
>I thought not. It's not a story the Monks would tell you. He's a heretical legend. Pelagius was an ascetic, so powerful in speech, wise and harsh in his practice. He could even use his methods to rid anyone of their passions... bringing about spiritual life. He had such knowledge of the holy life, he even taught that all men naturally had the grace in them to keep themselves from spiritually... dying.

An anon recommended Eifelheim maybe a year or two back and I said I'd get it. Read it last month and it was quite enjoyable. I really liked how the misunderstandings between the humans and aliens played out, but the way that Dietrich kept naming concepts almost exactly the same way that we do in modern times (and yes Greek roots, but still) was a bit grating. Overall absolutely worth a read. Thanks for the rec if you're still here.

>>19128941
what is calibre?

You guys read any royal road stories?

>>19144502
I'm reading Forge of Destiny, why?

>>19144532
Been reading a story called Saga of the Cosmic Heroes. It's written by someone from /lit/.

>>19144543
Neat. Been thinking I might turn to Royal Road for my story that is essentially just original fanfiction. What's a good chapter length there?

>>19144555
>What's a good chapter length there?
Depends on you, but I would say either 3k to 5k.

October is almost here, bros. Got any good horror-themed recommendations? I just read through pic related and I fucking love the premise; I just wish it was fleshed out more. Should I look into Frozen Hell?

>>19144555
Same. Even finish my story. Wondering if royal road is worth it.

>>19144176
lel, I've started like 12 books just like that. I just download everything sci fi and phantasy on audio book bay and start listening without even seeing what it is. Magic/fighting school and battle tournaments are the biggest turn offs you can wright. I used to think that if it managed to get an audio book made it cant be that bad. Well I was wrong, so wrong. I legit have 800 gb of audio books that I have either 'read' or started to read until they became unbearable.

Also Gary Stew ftl starship captain. I want to compile a list of all the authors who wrote that same exact book and execute them on national TV.

>>19143708
Not all of them were scifi & fantasy but I'll post a few I remember, I add books every day so Im always looking for book recs.
Life And Death Are Wearing Me Out by Mo Yan, Wraiths Of the Broken Land by S Craig Zohler, Reverend Insanity, Coin Locker Babies, Buried Giant by Ishiguro, Son Of The Storm & David Mogo, Godhunter by Suyi Davies Okungbowa, How To Lose The Time War, A Master Of Djinn, American War by some Arab dude, a few of the Legends Of The Condor Heros books by Jin Yong,

>>19143708
And three books by Yahtzee Croshaw. Hopefully I picked out a few good ones but I'll see..

>>19142263
ninefox gambit?

>>19144555
>Royal Road
Is it any good? How is it any different from other sites?

>>19144734
>How is it any different from other sites?
It's more accessible and has way more readerships than any other sites. Though I recommend to publish cross-platforms.

>>19144555
>Been thinking I might turn to Royal Road for my story that is essentially just original fanfiction.
What's your story about? Just finish my rough draft.

>>19144769
I've observed grumbles about it's terms of service or what not giving them a license to your text and having a hard time removing it from there if you wanted to publish more traditionally later on. Sometimes you cant get as good of a deal form like amazon or what not if the same content is available elsewhere.

>>19144783
>I've observed grumbles about it's terms of service or what not giving them a license to your text and having a hard time removing it from there if you wanted to publish more traditionally later on.
You sure you read it right? Because a few stories on royal road got publish traditionally later on.

>>19144769
>over 130,000 words.
Christ. What makes someone write that much. I would understand 60 thousand or 80 thousand, but over a 100 thousand? That’s too much.

What are some non-meme and non-nigger-related ways to include rape in a story?

>>19144841
Rape is a plot device that bad writers use as a crutch to create drama.

>>19144845
Yes and? Answer the question

>>19144851
No. How is this even a question?

finished The Company by KJ Parker
maybe my least favorite of his full length standalones that i've read, although that doesn't mean it's bad, just the other ones were better. i feel like i won't remember anything about this one in a year.

>>19144858
What was wrong with it?

>>19144841
Why would you ever include rape in the story? It serves absolutely nothing for the plot.

>>19144859
nothing in particular, just his other standalones were better in my opinion.

>>19144881
I found it to be a very good dark and gritty fantasy novel. Maybe its just my bias.

>>19144891
just to be clear, so did i. but every writer's gotta have worst novel, even if they're all good

>>19144858
>KJ Parker
How are his other novels? Been hearing god things about him and I want to start reading him. Where should I start.

>>19144894
To say its his worst novel is a bit misleading, maybe average?

>>19144783
>it's terms of service or what not giving them a license to your text and having a hard time removing it from there if you wanted to publish more traditionally later on.
What site have you been going? Royal road isn’t anything like that. You can remove your story whenever you want.

>>19144587
>Got any good horror-themed recommendations?
None whatsoever

I didn’t realise I’d get erect so quickly in a short story.

new thread
>>19144913

>>19144716
No but I'll check it out.

>>19144905
It was a while back and I wasn't really that interested in the discussion anyhow. idk maybe I was wrong or maybe things are different now.