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Fuck Muslims and fuck Islam convert scum.

>>19119024
indeed

>>19119024
>unironically converting to a religion that requires you to mutilate your dick

> religion
lol, self-refutation

>>19119024
Only science vimanas fly.
materialism > idealism

>>19119024
Oh yeah? Prove it

Guenon is a monkey faggot.

>>19119024
Yes

>>19119024
What did he even say?

Guenon was a man of Tradition, saying that "he" was right invalidates the traditional values he upheld because the traditional knowledge that he wrote about did not come about through his individuality but is merely a retelling of a knowledge that was given to him. If you were to study Christian scripture or even medieval scholastics, you would see that none of his ideas were original and had direct inspiration from aforementioned sources, and he names the hindu and Islamic sources that he studied as well, namely Ibn Arabi and Ananda Coomaraswamy to name a few. As a sidenote, it is rather interesting that foreign sources such as the Islamic and Indian traditions also agree in regards to metaphysical matters, regardless the fact that other religions contain truth doesn't shake my faith.

>>19119371
>Hyperboreans
>Aryans
>Guenon
the man literally converted shitskinism

>>19119437
Hyperborea was a thing before /pol/tards. Guenon thought that modern westerners have nothing to do with hyperboreans.

>>19119460
Guenon refuting the larpers

>>19119460
>Greek Myth
>Said to be from the North
>nothing to do with westerners
guenon is literally a retard

Retroactively btfo by Bataille (pbuh)

>>19119486
nothing to do with MODERN westerners
are you illiterate?

>>19119503
like it or not, modern westerners are the direct product of ancient westerners. Modern westerners are the production of ancient westerners, you have to be insane to deny this. In a direct line of descendance, there is no point where the successive generation magically diverges from the previous, it is necessarily an unbroken line, each is the product of the last all the way to the ancients. Modern westerners say more about ancient westerners than any fragmentary myths for you will know them by their fruits.

>>19119106
I didn't know it was the norm in Australia too. Maybe the hot weather?

>>19119024
From French inbred to adopted sandnigger, what an epic character!

>>19119522
This is just your biological materialist point of view. And is obviously wrong, a medieval arab had much more in common with a medieval christian than a 21th white zoomer has.

>>19119545
*21th century

pbuh

>>19119545
you don't understand the White ethos. Medieval christians born today would be the same as 21st century white zoomers, they are medieval christians in their time due to reactions of their fundamental spirit to the conditions of their time, but the 21st century man has the same fundamental spirit manifested differently.

>>19119589
ok this is bait

>>19119600
It seems I am just operating on a different plane from you, you are either not White or a genetic dead end, a loser, whose viewpoint will always be from the position of an outsider to society. I understand that I will not be able to impart my weltanschauung unto you due to the contrariety of our base natures. I am the regal culmination of my ancestors and you are subhuman scum doomed to eternal evolutionary death. You don't pass reality's ultimate test and are resigned to oblivion. You don't understand the nuances of the modern nor of the ancient.

>>19119624
t. faggot

>>19119384
>What did he even say?


>Rene Guenon is the most correct, smartest and most important person of the twentieth century. There was no smarter, deeper, clearer, absolute Guenon and probably could not be. It is no coincidence that the French traditionalist René Allé in one collection dedicated to R. Guenon compared Guenon with Marx. It would seem that there are completely different, opposite figures. Guenon is a conservative hyper-traditionalist. Marx is a revolutionary innovator, a radical overthrower of traditions. But Rene Halle rightly guessed the revolutionary message of each of Guenon's statements, the extreme, cruel noncomformity of his position, which turns everything and everything upside down, the radical nature of his thought. The fact is that René Guenon is the only author, the only thinker of the twentieth century, and maybe many, many centuries before that, who not only identified and confronted with each other secondary language paradigms, but also put into question the very essence of language (and metalanguage).

>The language of Marxism was methodologically very interesting (especially at a certain historical stage), subtly reducing the historical existence of mankind to a clear and convincing formula for confronting labor and capital (which, in fact, was a colossal revolutionary and predictive course, because it allowed many things to be systematized and brought together into a single, more or less consistent, dynamic structure). Being a great paradigmatic success, Marxism was so popular and won the minds of the best intellectuals of the twentieth century. But R. Guenon is an even more fundamental generalization, an even more radical removal of masks, an even broader worldview contestation, putting everything into question.

- Aleksandr Dugin, author of Political Platonism and The Fourth Political Theory

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>René Guénon defies classification. . . . Were he anything less than a consummate master of lucid argument and forceful expression, his work would certainly be unknown to all but a small, private circle of admirers.”
—Gai Eaton, author of The Richest Vein

>“Guénon established the language of sacred metaphysics with a rigor, a breadth, and an intrinsic certainty such that he compels recognition as a standard of comparison for the twentieth century.”
—Jean Borella, author of Guénonian Esoterism and Christian Mystery

>“To a materialistic society enthralled with the phenomenal universe exclusively, Guénon, taking the Vedanta as point of departure, revealed a metaphysical and cosmological teaching both macrocosmic and microcosmic about the hierarchized degrees of being or states of existence, starting with the Absolute . . . and terminating with our sphere of gross manifestation.”
—Whitall N. Perry, editor of A Treasury of Traditional Wisdom

>“René Guénon was the chief influence in the formation of my own intellectual outlook (quite apart from the question of Orthodox Christianity). . . . It was René Guénon who taught me to seek and love the truth above all else, and to be unsatisfied with anything else.”
—Fr. Seraphim Rose, author of The Soul After Death

>“His mixture of arcane learning, metaphysics, and scathing cultural commentary is a continent in itself, untouched by the polluted tides of modernity. . . . Guénon’s work will not save the world—it is too late for that—but it leaves no reader unchanged.”
—Jocelyn Godwin, author of Mystery Religions in the Ancient World

>“René Guénon is one of the few writers of our time whose work is really of importance. . . . He stands for the primacy of pure metaphysics over all other forms of knowledge, and presents himself as the exponent of a major tradition of thought, predominantly Eastern, but shared in the Middle Ages by the . . . West.”
—Walter Shewring, translator of Homer’s Odyssey

>>19119650

>“In a world increasingly rife with heresy and pseudo-religion, Guénon had to remind twentieth century man of the need for orthodoxy, which presupposes firstly a Divine Revelation and secondly a Tradition that has handed down with fidelity what Heaven has revealed. He thus restores to orthodoxy its true meaning, rectitude of opinion which compels the intelligent man not only to reject heresy but also to recognize the validity of faiths other than his own if they also are based on the same two principles, Revelation and Tradition.”
—Martin Lings, author of Ancient Beliefs and Modern Superstitions

>“If during the last century or so there has been even some slight revival of awareness in the Western world of what is meant by metaphysics and metaphysical tradition, the credit for it must go above all to Guénon. At a time when the confusion into which modern Western thought had fallen was such that it threatened to obliterate the few remaining traces of genuine spiritual knowledge from the minds and hearts of his contemporaries, Guénon, virtually single-handed, took it upon himself to reaffirm the values and principles which, he recognized, constitute the only sound basis for the living of a human life with dignity and purpose or for the formation of a civilization worthy of the name.”
—Philip Sherrard, author of Christianity: Lineaments of a Sacred Tradition

>“Apart from his amazing flair for expounding pure metaphysical doctrine and his critical acuteness when dealing with the errors of the modern world, Guénon displayed a remarkable insight into things of a cosmological order. . . . He all along stressed the need, side by side with a theoretical grasp of any given doctrine, for its concrete—one can also say its ontological—realization failing which one cannot properly speak of knowledge.”
—Marco Pallis, author of A Buddhist Spectrum

>“Guénon’s mission was two-fold: to reveal the metaphysical roots of the ‘crisis of the modern world’ and to explain the ideas behind the authentic and esoteric teachings that still [remain] alive.”
—Harry Oldmeadow, author of Traditionalism: Religion in the Light of the Perennial Philosophy

>>19119655

>Guénon undermined and then; with uncompromising intellectual rigour, demolished all the assumptions taken for granted by modern man, that is to say Western or westernised man. Many others had been critical of the direction taken by European civilization since the so-called 'Renaissance', but none had dared to be as radical as he was or to re-assert with such force the principles and values which Western culture had consigned to the rubbish tip of history. His theme was the 'primordial tradition' or Sofia perennis, expressed-so he maintained-both in ancient mythologies and in the metaphysical doctrine at the root of the great religions. The language of this Tradition was the language of symbolism, and he had no equal in his interpretation of this symbolism. Moreover he turned the idea of human progress upside down, replacing it with the belief almost universal before the modern age, that humanity declines in spiritual excellence with the passage of time and that we are now in the Dark Age which precedes the End, an age in which all the possibilities rejected by earlier cultures have been spewed out into the world, quantity replaces quality and decadence approaches its final limit. No one who read him and understood him could ever be quite the same again.

- Gai Eaton

>>19119027
Based

>>19119024
This is the realist take
>Guenon when talking about the West = 0 IQ
>Guenon when talking about the East = 200 IQ
>Guenon when talking about modernity = 0 IQ
>Guenon when talking about mysticism = 200 IQ
his takes are unbelievable bad

based...

>>19119646
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>>19119661
Have a (you), it might help you cope.

>>19119646
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>>19119661
Based

>>19119024
>He was unironically right about everything
For a long time I didn't want to accept it, but now I do

>>19119024
then go an join a tariqa, what are you doing wasting your time on 4chan?

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>>19119624

based hegel poster BTFO guenonfags again and again

>>19119024
PBUH

>>19119106
What’s going on in Yugoslavia, boys?

>>19121094
guenonposters just read 2 of his books and the wikipedia page, in a few years they will completely forget about Guenon

>>19122444
idk, you ever heard of bosnians?

>>19122464
Yeah but they are a minority, shouldn't make the entirely of ex-yug red.

>>19119027
FPBP

>>19119027
based ngl

>>19119661
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>>19119646
Ok, but what did he say?

>>19123044
By Individualism we mean the negation of any principle higher than individuality, and the consequent reduction of civilization, in all its branches, to purely human elements; fundamentally, therefore, individualism amounts to the same thing as what, at the time of the Renaissance, was called 'humanism'; it is also the characteristic feature of the 'profane point of view' as we have described it above. Indeed these are but different names for the same thing; and we have also shown that this 'profane' outlook coincides with the antitraditional outlook that lies at the root of all specifically modern tendencies. That is not to say, of course, that this outlook is entirely new; it had already appeared in a more or less pronounced form in other periods, but its manifestations were always limited in scope and apart from the main trend, and they never went so far as to overrun the whole of a civilization, as has happened during recent centuries in the West. What has never been seen before is the erection of an entire civilization on something purely negative, on what indeed could be called the absence of principle; and it is this that gives the modern world its abnormal character and makes of it a sort of monstrosity, only to be understood if one thinks of it as corresponding to the end of a cyclical period, as we have already said. Individualism, thus defined, is therefore the determining cause of the present decline of the West, precisely because it is, so to speak, the mainspring for the development of the lowest possibilities of mankind, namely those possibilities that do not require the intervention of any supra-human element and which, on the contrary, can only expand freely if every supra-human element be absent, since they stand at the antipodes of all genuine spirituality and intellectuality.
- The Crisis of the Modern World

>>19119498
based

>>19119024
>He was unironically right about everything
We should racemix, swallow nigger cum, smoke a lot of weed and destroy our heritage?

>>19119430
medieval oriental writing are not traditionalism.

>>19119483
Yeah right because our modern democracy does not go back to the tribal councils of the norse, germans, greeks and romans

>>19123044

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>>19119661
amazing

>>19119437
>aryan prophet
>warrior religion
>no usury
>rich mystical tradition
Keep seething, islam is more aryan than christcuckery.

>>19123241
Holy Based Pbuh!

>>19119027
Dimwit Shudra detected.
When Brahmins speak you put a shoe in your mouth or fuck off.

>>19119024
>pic
sauce?

>>19119027
this

>>19123241
Man did he nail them down. I always saw Peterson as yet another person who you would think would finally open the gates towards conquest, but instead, he is just a black shroud passing by to lullaby you, putting you to sleep. And his weapon of choice is rationalism.

Does anybody have the edit of Brahma with Guenon faces?

>>19123654
One of the best ones desu

bump

>>19119024
>longface retvrn man
Cringe

Does anyone know here can I discuss Guenon without the seething hylics or is their presence necessary because of the Kali Yuga?
I miss the Finnish Green dragon fren, the Chad /fitlit/ French fren, and the American Psalm singer fren.
link related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQOvpLUoYxw

>>19123810
Based (pbuh).

>>19125219
They are currently in occultation or ghaybah, I am sure they will return when the time is right.

>>19119024
(pbuh)

>>19125219
I am talking rn with them on vc

>>19123241
kek

>>19119498
i dont care?

>>19123241
East and West, The Crisis of the Modern World, The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times

This books are just... out of this world. Truth after truth after truth... and the way in which they are written is incredible, is almost like a speech where Guenon speaks and you listen and try to understand. This books are infallible.

>>19123383
>>rich mystical tradition
that makes it degenerate orientalism.

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>>19119646
I don't care. His face is creepy so i conclude that his thoughts are evil.

Guenon is lead by demons.

>>19128645
what have you done to the Guenon book ???!!!!!!!!

>>19119498
>rent

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>>19128645
Even if so he's the most compelling evil person I've come across, also which Guenon book is that in the image?

>>19129516
Lord of the World.
It teaches that Christ is just some kind of mystical teacher and not the incarnate Son of God.

>>19129899
let's be honest, you got triggered because he liked the templars

>>19130084
What makes me destroy the book is the false teaching it promotes about Christ and His prophets like Melchizedek and Abraham, not Guenon's liking of a heretical group. The Templars were lead by demons too btw.

>>19130123
am I demonic?

>>19130192
Not by your being, no. But it depends on our actions. If we cooperate with Satan them we become satanized and corrupt our will and nature.

Can someone actually explain Guenon's Traditionalism to me?

>>19130680
all religion same
exoteric false bad
all difference illsuion
even when person christian say they believe christ
this is exoteric
they secretely believe buddha and advaita

>>19127565
Can I get an invite to the guenonian discord the realness and foundation?
JoJo2001JoJo
(at)protonmail.ch

>>19128326
I agree, they are truly something else. Some people find Guenon's writing to be kind of dry sometimes; without necessarily agreeing with that myself, I can see why in some instances people might think that. At the same time, when his writings shine at their utmost it is truly sublime and nobody else from his era comes close.

>>19130983
I was jk, I don't have discord and that server doesn't exist anymore

>>19130680
read his books, retard
at least his wikipedia page

>>19128645
>>19130123
Anon, this is Jesus, the author Rene Guenon was correct in propounding the essential unity of all traditions. You would do well to reconsider his works carefully.

>>19131433
Sorry Jesus, I prefer to trust Jay Dyer and Seraphim Rose