/lit/ - Literature

Caravaggio was fire

>>19098866
baroque renaissance is going on at >>>/p/ I am also thinking about jumping on the train. I am sick of sharp digital soulless memes.

>>19098870
Totally. Who else do you like?

>>19098882
Baroque related?

>>19098879
I was unaware. Do you have any examples you can post in here? I'd love to see.

What's stopping you from jumping on the train? I'll say it seems like a bit more difficult of an aesthetic to capture on camera, since it's focused on active, snapshot-like moments rather than still scenes.

>>19098895
Sure, seems like it'd be a good theme. But it's art thread - post whatever (art) you'd like.

>>19098910
"Wife of King Kandaules" by Jacob Jordaens
Love his work, Rubens too

>>19098903
>Do you have any examples you can post in here?
Yes, this anon. He is still working on the project.

https://archive.nyafuu.org/p/thread/3912170/#q3912170

You're right about it's snapshot aesthetic. It is a challenge but not impossible. You just have to place your flash at 45 degrees at night to capture all of the jazz. I can hit the streets and ask my friend to hold the flash. I am currently broke so I can't buy the flash. Maybe I will borrow it and try it on decaying buildings.

>>19098929
Gorgeous. I'm a big fan of the dynamic, asymmetrical compositions that were being pioneered in the 17th century. Much more exciting to the eye than the order & harmony of classicism. As much as I appreciate sacred geometry, I can't pretend I don't prefer the chaos and contortions of the body...

>>19098997
Can u give me some advice to get into Baroque style more?

>>19098956
Thanks for the link.

You absolutely should! If you're looking for more painting inspo, check out this guy, Hubert Robert. It's not baroque period (his work is mostly late 18th century) but it captures the beautiful, lived-in decay of Roman architecture.

Your all btfo

>>19098866
Caravaggio was excellent and I love other High Italian Renaissance painters, but don't shid on my Pre-Raphaelites anon. In addition to creating point perspective, they made stunningly beautiful work with limited palettes and materials (often egg tempera and fresco). The early and Northern Renaissances produced some incredible painters.

>>19098882

>>19099026
Ah, this is what I am looking for. Thank you anon.

I think that anon is one of few people with good styles on /p/. So what do you think about the work that I have linked? Considering you have wide knowledge about traditional painting so it will be helpful to me also. And if you have some critique for anon I will tell him about it.

>>19099060
Francis Bacon is one of my favorite painters of all time and he was greatly inspired by Fra Angelico and Giotto as well as Michelangelo, van Gogh and Rubens.

>>19099068
>and he was greatly inspired by Fra Angelico and Giotto as well as Michelangelo, van Gogh and Rubens.
You painters leave out his biggest inspiration for these fighting figures. Bacon took inspiration for them from the photographs of Eadweard Muybridge.

Is there a lit equivalent to Disasters of War?

>>19098997
Any lit on this one?

>>19099101
Yes, of course. Bacon's studies of the figure are derived from his obsession with Muybridge. Apparently his studio was littered with clippings from Eadward's numerous albums. As a painter myself I'm fascinated by the connection.

>>19099137
Can you please tell me what is going on in 2nd painting? His later work is weird

>>19099009

Not sure what you mean - as in, advice for appreciating the aesthetic, or learn more about the history?

Either way, my best advice would be: (1) find some literature on the historical context (doesn't have to be anything too heavy), then (2) find the names of period artists and look up their work (I tend to check wikiart and wikimedia commons, though there are probably better sources out there), and then (3) get out to your local museum and head to the Baroque room. Looking at paintings online will give a sense of certain things - composition, forms, subject matter, themes and tropes - but you'll never really know the work until you see the paint. (Back in the time these paintings were made, distant art fans used to circulate etchings and prints of the famous works they couldn't see in person - so really, not much has changed.) Especially in the baroque period, the free-handed, even sculptural use of paint and brushwork renders the live image substantially visually distinct from a digital reproduction.

As for the historical context, the general position of the baroque period is one of departure from the classical (orderly, harmonious, geometric) style revived in the Renaissance, attempting to capture an aesthetic of the chaotic, the contingent, and the sudden. Compositions shift from the cleanly-composed mise-en-scene of, say, Raphael (the painter who basically formalized the standard 'Renaissance' style), to the twisting, contorted, surging and swelling masses of bodies you find in the work of Caravaggio, or Rubens (pictured here). Treatment of light shifts from the crisp, revealing brightness of the Renaissance to theatrical extremes in light and shadow (this latter treatment a style called 'chiaroscuro', typified in the Caravaggios above) which highlight the contours of the body and obscure the figures' complete forms. Overall, the baroque reflects a sort of decadence or collapse of form, a melting of the solid into air, a triumph of the fleeting over the fixed or established - in my opinion, the first 'modern' art.

Also brb, laundry.

>>19099156
Thanks man, really appreciate your advices

What do you think about light in this photograph? Am I dumb for thinking that this is a Baroque photograph?


Relatives and friends pay their respects at a wake in Deleitosa, Spain, for Spanish Village, Smith’s 1951 essay for Life magazine by W. Eugene Smith

>>19099101
also

>>19098866
>The baroque was an absolute improvement over the lifeless classicism of the Raphaelite renaissance. Don't you agree?
I see no need to make such categorical claims, there are merits to both styles.

>>19099062
One of the few cases where a female artist btfo's the competition

Tomb of Napoleon

>>19099153
no

>>19098866
people wanting to get into art lore i recommend waldemar januszczak or robert hughes on youtube

>>19099153
To understand that you'll need to read his interviews with David Sylvester; view Francis Bacon - A Brush with Violence; also Deleuze's monograph on the painter

Any good book recommendations on art analysis/history?

>>19099153

It looks like a figure, rendered in the face as a blacked-out silhouette, in the torso and leg as clothed in a suit & dress pant, and in the right arm & across the back as a fleshy, exposed arm, unlocking the white door on the right of the canvas with a key. He appears to only have one leg, or only one we can see, which is resting on a piece of paper with text (newspaper?). He faces a perspectivally warped stairwell; ascending to a door, descending to a window.

>>19099060
You're not wrong. The advances they made were necessary for the later developments, and they certainly produced some work which is highly meritorious in its own right. Still, I prefer the oddities of the baroque to the religious sentiments of the High Renaissance.

Keep this up, nice art for once.