/lit/ - Literature

>>19080059
Hell-no, hell-no, hell-no


Haha get it

>>19080059
Lombroso got it backwards, it's not that ugly people are criminals, it's that crime and life hardships make you ugly.

"Scientific", ha!

>>19080059
Physiognomy is a pseudo science.

>>19080108
>>19081478

>Not realizing that ugly people tend to despise beautiful things
>Not realizing that fat people tend to be lazy and immoral
>Not realizing that beautiful people tend to make better first impressions
>Not understanding that physical appearance can condition a life which can produce specific behaviors and outlooks

>>19082030
I’m ugly and I love beautiful things. I’m also a bit fat but I’m certain I’m not lazy or immoral.

>>19080059
>how to judge people by what they look like
dude just use your instincts lol

>>19082038
You have displayed some small amount of laziness by not thoroughly reading what I typed. Or you clearly read it and chosen to lie and misrepresent what it was that I typed.

The key word you omitted is tend.

>>19082064
> I’m sure you’ve noticed tendencies that contradict your entire life
No, anon I haven’t. I didn’t miss your use of “tend” either.

>>19082157
Generalizations are not emphatic declarations of truth. No more than unemployed and childless adults are utterly depressed and are failures. Chances are strong they are that, but not always. A strong correlational means a great deal and it proves truth in crude physiognomy.

Fat, lazy and immoral.

>>19080059
I wonder if people get mind-fucked into operating under extreme confirmation bias if they take stuff like this too seriously.

Most people will display a wide range of characteristics, but if you believe one's appearance has a dramatic influence on a person's personality you are likely to notice a lot of things that only serve to confirm this prior hypothesis.

>>19080059
>>19083173

>>19080059
Be careful with this stuff, anon. I caught a lot of shit for saying I wasn't interested in a woman because she had "dysgenic earlobes". You'll turn yourself into a turbo-autist if you're not careful.

85IQ
>ugly people are bad and beautiful people are good

100IQ
>humans are wired to like beautiful people more and treat them better, but there's no difference in character

115IQ
>being treated worse because of ugliness, or the reverse, can cause the assumed characteristics to become reality

130IQ
>regardless of reasons, my instincts tell me to avoid ugly people, and I would be a fool not to trust my instincts which have evolved over millenia. The quality of a personality is subjective, and if I judge an ugly person to have a poor personality, that is a true judgement as much as any other. There is no reason to act as though I don't prefer beautiful people in all ways.

145IQ
>Ugly people are bad and beautiful people are good.

>>19080092
There's a tangible, biological and evolutionary reason ugly people get treated poorly, and it's not as simple as "bad genes" (unless you want to beg the question as to what "bad" is).

>>19083457
85 and 145 merely have different criteria for ugliness and beauty. if you undo the glossy magazine marvel hero conditioning, as well as generations of other artificial beauty standards, the innate human measurements of pretty and ugly are perennial.

I'm pretty ugly. Am I a bad person? I don't wish any harm to anyone and I'm only on here because of my alienation not cause I'm a bitter virgin or a fascist

>>19083343
>I caught a lot of shit for saying I wasn't interested in a woman because she had "dysgenic earlobes".

>>19083727
You are not necessarily a bad person, if you have been dealt a bad hand. You are however immoral if you are fat and/or ugly because you are too lazy to work out and eat right

>>19082257
no such thing as immoral

>>19080059
dutton is a pseud and a grifter.

>>19082038
If you truly loved beauty, you would not be fat. Therefore you are lazy.

>>19083343
>being afraid of people thinking you are an autist
untermensch

>>19080059
huh interesting, this schizo went to my college

>>19082038
>I'm ugly
God I fucking hate /r9k/niggers. If you would just get in shape, get a haircut, get rid of minor facial flaws like acnee or bushy brows and dress nicely you would be a 7-8/10. Most people who think that they are ugly are just lazy faggots who never made even the slightest attempt to better their image. Unless you have literal physical deformities you have no excuse. You are probably also a tfw no gf guy. How would you expect a girl to share her bed with you if you look like a Discord mod? Look into the mirror and see if you're worthy to be with other people.
>inb4 looks don't matter
Yes they do. They always did. Uglyness isnpires fear and contempt in people. It's just normal behavior. Imagine that some crack head sits in a bus right next to you. How would you feel? Uncomfortable? Well this is how people will keep seeing you unless you make a change. I'm not handsome myself. I also thought that I was ugly untill I let some workmates slowly change my image. Now I can look in the mirror with a smile on my face and go outside without feeling like an inferior goblin. You just have to have to try.

>>19080059
>image search "edward dutton"
>has the face of an alcoholic

>>19084797
>sperging out this hard at him just because he said he was ugly
I'm ugly and I don't care, I don't even try to get women, it doesn't matter. I don't care about the impressions I give people, if they're repulsed by me that's their problem

monstrum in fronte, monstrum in animo

>>19080059
This isn't a science

>>19084825
>calls author of a physiognomy book ugly
>thinks this means its pseudoscience
You people really do lack even an ounce of self-awareness.

>>19082030
Lazy and immoral? Fatness correlates with low IQ OR extraversion.
So there's dumb fat people and smart fat people that are extraverted.

>>19083457
>and i would be a fool not to trust my instincts

You are a slave.

>>19084917
No. I'm not calling him ugly, I said that he looks like an alcoholic, which he does. Neither am I claiming that it's a pseudoscience, rather the opposite, I think it's a self-evident fact.

>>19084830
No, again, unless you have physical deformities you are not. You are just careless. Also your entire post is a giant cope. As soon as you decide to be more open with your feelings you will see it too. This is what annoys me the most in young men today. They choose to do nothing with themselves until then they end up on /r9k/ or reddit and cry about how ugly they are and how society at large is supperficial and only cares about appearances. This way of thinking will always produce weak and unmotivated men that do nothing besides pitty themselves.
>oh mah gah I want to be alone I like to be alone blablablabla
No you don't really. You took the sour grapes approach and that was it. Or maybe you are just young and think that lonelyness is a cool aestethic. Well it isn't. Sooner or later it will rot your brain and devour your soul.

>>19085005
You are projecting hard my man.
I'm pretty ugly. It's no big deal. There's more to life than cooming. I was blessed with literal autism so I couldn't give less of a shit about companionship and other normalfag stuff. I don't like sex (have had it twice) and talking to people, especially women, makes me want to kill myself. I have been entirely alone and friendless for ten years so it's not some bucket crab post like yours that's gonna get me to question my life.
I don't cry about society or self-pity or any of that bullshit, I live a peaceful life and you should consider it too because you sound like you have some pent up anger.

Humans can subconsciously comprehend how someone has lived their life in an instant just from a glance. Weight, fitness, skin condition, stress lines, body language, grooming(clothes/hair), attitude, expression, etc all tell a story
Usually this just manifests as a general positive or negative feeling but you can connect the dots if you think about it.
Injuries and deformities are a different issue because of the primal instinct to avoid sickness and death

>>19083343
You were probably right though

>>19085023
>I was blessed with literal autism
Oh, I'm sorry, fren. I thought you were just another pitty party faggot. They are not exactly rare in these parts.

>>19082038
Based chungus

>>19083343
incredibly based

>>19084825
He is a bong, of course he looks like a drunkard.

There exists two camps of those who study physiognomics those who believe it's a learned skill that you can study specifics of the face which allow you to understand character better while the other is that it's pure intuition and no amount of studying will gift you the ability to understand a face better.

Vaught's Practical Character Reader is one of the greater pieces of practical physiognomy that I have read. The most important traits to focus on are nose, back of skull, jaw, lip ratios, and how the forehead becomes the top of the head. His work is efficient and I believe it to be useful and have been using it for the past year and a half and it has never once failed me. Aristotle also falled into this category.
The more you study skulls the more you notice patterns.

I'll be back and write more about instinctual skull analyzing which is incredibly useful concept to understand.

>>19085023
You don't know what projection means.

>>19086116
You're responding to a four hour old post for this? The 4chan x eye turned red and I thought I had gotten an important (you) but here you are. Don't make me waste my time.

>>19086022
>Vaught's Practical Character Reader
Looking for the book, I found out that Fernando Pessoa was also a fan lol

>>19086022
This me again, but now im not phone posting so ill actually write about what I know.

>>19086168
No Idea who that is, but he seems cool Ill check him out.

Physiognomy or physiognomics as a concept is not new at all and has been used for thousands of years. Within Indo European Society we can find some of the first uses of physiognomy as proof of parenthood. Blue eyes being a recessive trait meant that those who had blue eyes most likely had parents that both had blue eyes thus if you were a father and your son had brown eyes and you blue you were getting cucked and should kill your child. It was not just blue eyes themselves that mattered, but also what they meant for hidden traits.

Will not immediately recognizable traits such as IQ or Bravery could be identified using the visible traits that the father or mother had and because the High IQ people married each other to form the aristocracies then a quick division could be made. Thus it isnt the traits themselves that make you intelligent, of great will, but what they represent genetically, and this is not a new concept scientifically (im not gonna cite anything because i dont feel like it) but political allegiance, caste, IQ, and more can be determined by the face alone.

Because these traits do exist it isnt just a purely instinctual effort in identifying a face like Schopenhauer would have you believe though he is right about what elements of the face to pay attention to namely eyes and jaw. They are something that can be measure, but as with everything trust your gut instinct if anything troubles you and you will not be wrong.

I've attached a picture with certain elements that detail the thirds of the face, jaw outlines, eye placement, brow prominence, and nose shape. Study it for yourself and try to guess what it means.

>>19084992
Everyone, even you, is a slave to something.

>>19080059
>scientific works
KEK you're funneh

we still don't know how Pynchon looks like

I suppose everyone itt knows that Aristotle wrote a pretty good treatise on it, right?

>>19082038
You must not be ugly

>>19086022
I actually gained a decent ability to read peoples physiognomy through astrology.

Sounds crazy but it's true, especially if they have similar aspects to me or people I know. I accurately guess their aspects and then confer the correct character traits. Some are more obvious than others.

>>19084797
>Just hit the gym bro

>>19084797
>just get a haircut, bro

>>19084797
>Just dress better, bro

>>19080092

>>19088323
>>19088302
>>19088346
Someone's real mad.
All of this people could look fine if they fixed their taste. The last one in particular.

>>19088346
He looks cute :)

>>19080059

>>19086168
This book is fucking hilarious.

>>19088900
And true

>>19080065
No, I don't get it. Have you considered getting your autism treated?

>>19081478
>Physiognomy is a pseudo science
post your picture

>>19088900
Looks a little like Mussolini.

>>19081478
It goes back to the ancient Greeks and Aristotle, and ancient societies around the world. Not a novel concept
>>19082030
being fact has nothing to do with your phenotype dumbass physiognomy is 80% focused on facial features

>>19089008

Jeepers creepers leapers, batman!!

The joke is that autism has no cure LOL

>>19090247
>being fact has nothing to do with your phenotype
DO NOT GOOGLE "WEIGHT LOSS FACE CHANGE"
I'm not even fat btw

>>19080059
This would be a good starting point https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6DqJ1Wv6EtQ

>>19090367
I'm confused, are you saying gaining weight obscures the basic traits people use in recognizing your pheonotype? Or unironically suggesting that gaining weight changes your natural-appearing phenotype which means it can't be valid?

>>19082038
>I’m also a bit fat but I’m certain I’m not lazy
Is this just bait flying over my head or are you not seeing the contradiction here?

>>19088302
>gain muscle
>grow a beard
problem solved, pic rel's facial feature isn't even bad, he doesn't seem short either

>>19080092
Cringe

>>19080092
you sure?

>>19081478
The fact alone that seeing something beautiful or seeing something ugly can evoke an emotional response within you shows that physiognomy has the possibility of working through cognitive feedback loops

>>19082040
This is partially true

>>19085109
Yeah this is true...when I look at younger pictures of myself, I looked happy and "nice". Now I look at myself, and my eyes are cold and mean looking. I think working from 16 through college made me more of a colder and serious person...and the 9-5 grind post college doesn't help. At least I'm not poor anymore...

>>19082038
I'm absolutely certain that the things you deem 'beautiful' are vile shit and/or shallow kitsch

>>19090410
>m-muh feefee hurt!
Not an argument

>>19090417
>somehow an actress face compared to her character contradicts my point
I don't see any problem here btw

Chads always win.
Democracy perfects physique.

>>19083662
>evolution

No one here reads.
>>/lit/thread/S18147294

"“In the countenance dwells the spirit!” This maxim has been in currency since the earliest times; even today it is the basis of our judgments in our daily commerce with others, and only those on whom Nature herself has bestowed a repugnant form seem to doubt it. For that reason we consider their objections biased and stick with the tenet to which we subscribed: “in the countenance dwells the spirit!”

If this rule is universally true, then surely Mother Nature can have given us no better letter of recommendation to our fellow men than a favorable face—but on the other hand wretched are we indeed if an unfavorable physique means that we must not only forgo the consolation of seeking redress in our soul but also arouse the general suspicion that “our spirit is worth nothing” or “our heart is bad.” Why? Because our body, the dwelling place of the soul, is so unalluring."

Check your family photo album. Post the most simian ancestor.

>>19083662
>There's a tangible, biological and evolutionary reason ugly people get treated poorly, and it's not as simple as "bad genes"
Wut? but that is exactly the reason. If not could you tell us the reason?

>>19091117
he's beautiful

>>19083457
150IQ
>regardless of reasons, my instincts tell me to avoid ugly people, and I would be a fool not to trust my instincts which have evolved over millennia. The quality of a personality is objective and rooted in biology and have tremendously big impacts on how people act throughout their lives. Some personality traits makes people have favorable characteristics such as being honest, trustworthy, safe, kind, considerate, orderly and clean safer and more pleasant to be around. Others the opposite. And these characteristics can be known by looking at their physical appearance.

>>19091783
"It is a fact known only too well that in their blood parents pass on their physical and mental constitution through a number of traits. Just as we sometimes think we can recognize almost entire families by their face and temperament when we are acquainted with but three of their members, so it is even better known that children carry the spirit and physical character of their parents mostly in their eyes, in their brow, and in their face.

...

Behold that man whose strong body testifies to his strong soul: the contours of his body are regular; his physique is well built; there is freedom in his posture and power in his breast; there is lightness in his legs and strength in his shoulders—and thus will his spirit also be, which was formed together with this body. Behold! There is honesty in his brow; there is intelligence between his eyes and health in his cheeks; there is charm in his mouth and a manly fire blazing in his eyes: behold the mirror of his soul."

>>19091841
"My friend! Has Nature bestowed on this man a feeble body? And has Art not exalted his spirit instead of Nature? That is the simplest question; the more difficult one would be this: In what does this man’s greatness consist? Is it perhaps precisely a consequence of the feebleness of his spirit? And in what does the feebleness of his body consist? Is it perhaps a consequence of the errors that only the strong man could make? Here we speak of Nature, and not of Art."

>>19091848
"Behold this woman: her beautiful body is apparently a symbol of the beauty of her soul. The gently inclined profile of her face, the delicate fullness of her figure, and the spirituality pervading her entire being betoken an equally beautiful soul. Behold! It lies in her eyes, on her brow, on her cheeks, her lips. Her lover will say: those are the eyes of Pallas, the forehead of Juno, the lips of Suada, the cheeks of the Graces, the eyebrows of Venus. We would not go quite so far, but even the coldest of men will not deny that her body is suggestive of a beautiful soul.
In this way, then, the beauty of the body is related to the beauty of the soul, for they are twins who develop together."

"Behold this woman: her beautiful body is apparently a symbol of the beauty of her soul. The gently inclined profile of her face, the delicate fullness of her figure, and the spirituality pervading her entire being betoken an equally beautiful soul. Behold! It lies in her eyes, on her brow, on her cheeks, her lips. Her lover will say: those are the eyes of Pallas, the forehead of Juno, the lips of Suada, the cheeks of the Graces, the eyebrows of Venus. We would not go quite so far, but even the coldest of men will not deny that her body is suggestive of a beautiful soul.
In this way, then, the beauty of the body is related to the beauty of the soul, for they are twins who develop together."

Everybody that talks seriously about physiognomy/phenotypes always turns out to be fat without exception

This is who you take beauty advice from /lit/?

beautiful people can still commit crimes. Plus aren’t there countless stories throughout history of people getting tricked because part of the scam involved a beautiful person?

>>19092247
Nobody would be surprised this guy was a criminal though lol. He's good looking but he still has criminal vibes

>>19092266
before anything nice double dubs
I don’t know anon. I feel the “criminal vibes” has to do more with the picture being a mugshot than anything else. Get a professional photographer and he’ll look like the meme chad man

>>19091117
Just disproved Physiognomy. Trudeau is a retard

>>19092266
>literal mugshot
>non-physiognomical signifiers like teardrop tattoos that anybody could get regardless of bone structure
>'wow criminal vibes'

>>19084825
He's also got that incel low T face shape.

>>19081478
utterly cringe

>>19092144
Der ewige Kraut

>>19080092

It's both.
We see a face and we react. We program the owner of the face. The owner of the face is socially pressured to conform to the face that he has. If he does not, he is socially punished.

Tough face, weak persona : off-putting, women don't fuck you
Tough face, tough persona : agrees with expectations, you have sex

Nice face, mean persona : you scare away the people looking for a nice person\
Nice face, nice persona : mmm sex you get to breed

It's a feedback cycle, we should act how we look. I look like a sexy genius btw

>>19092324
>>19092300
his eye area has that relaxed look that you often see with criminals. Most people cant even make that expression

>>19092478
but how do i know what my face looks like? it just looks like a face to me, i can't tell

>>19092478
Cringe

>>19082030
>Not realizing that people who despise typically beautiful things tend to make themselves look "atypically beautiful" (ugly)
>Not realizing that being lazy and immoral tends to make you fat
>Not realizing that beautiful people tend to make better first impressions because half the work was already done before they even said hi
>Not understanding that specific behaviors and outlooks can condition a life which can produce different physical appearances

>>19080059
Edward Dutton is a hack and anybody into IQ research knows that

>>19092640
Define beauty
Define ugliness
You can't because you're brain has been made ugly by tweets

>>19092671
>you're
It's irony faggots

>>19092665
elaborate

>this is the guy telling you how to judge people by the way they look

>>19091788
Years ago I was smoking with some friends in my (deceased) grandma apartment, we checked some boxes full of photos and there was this "funeral card" (they give you one when you attend a funeral) and this woman had very strabic eyes, the text being "Now you'll watch us from above..."

Imagine something like this but worse

>large forehead, high hairline = high iq and empathy
>small forehead, low hairline = low iq and no empathy
>bulging forehead = ability to plan ahead
>sloped forehead = impulsive and violent, dragon's blood
>flat monkey nose = primitive thinking, son of orcs
>slightly upturned or pointy nose = wise thinking, descendent of elves
>hooked nose = greedy thoughts, son of dwarves
>below 5'0" average = hobbit or dwarf blood, individualistic
>above 6'0" average = pure human or troll blood, individualistic
>between 5 and 6 feet = collectivist bugman
>fishlips = child of dagon, pure evil
>thin lips = goblinbreed, prefers darkness and caves
>light eyes = prone to virtue, begat by cherubim
>dark eyes = prone to vice, begat by anakim
>big chin = nobility, purity, son of god
>tiny chin = common breed, son of the devil

>>19092247
https://www.instagram.com/mugshawtys/?hl=en

>>19092478
>Nice face, mean persona : you scare away the people looking for a nice person\
never happened
The rest might be partially true

>>19093389
>>thin lips = goblinbreed, prefers darkness and caves
Hmmm might be accurate in my case
>light eyes = prone to virtue
Demonstrably false

>>19080092
That defies logic.

>>19093650
Any celebrity you see with light eyes are wearing contact lenses (if they are human) or are shapeshifting dragon/dwarf hybrids who can change physical characteristics by performing blood magic rituals.

>>19083343
You must expand upon this further, anon. What specifically characterizes dysgenic earlobes?

>>19084243
Shh dont tell them

>>19082064
Kekkekekeek

Fat people lack hygiene and dignity. Niggers produce 3X crime. See, stereotyping works.

>>19092835
We already stereotype. We do it to avoid danger, to choose mates, etc. Not making subconscious choices by using your eyes would be dumb and impossible.

>>19093798
>this is the guy telling you how to judge people by the way they look

>>19093934
Not him but what's your point? He could be the ugliest, most repulsive guy in the world, it wouldn't change the merit of his argument.

>>19091783
Based thread.

>>19080059
Can come one give me an analysis of Bug faceSoy jack contradiction within the very physiognomy of man? Why is it that these people tend to be the most self destructive and most pathetic?

>>19093934
low mutational load is a good thing.

>>19092835
Ed is self aware that he is a mutant. I know that kind of self awareness is alien to narcissistic trannies like you, but people can recognize truths that don't flatter themselves.

>>19094035
"“To infer from the face to the heart” is always deceptive and ought never to be heard. Our facial features develop in the years of our youth, when our heart has not yet struck out on its own, and if therefore an unfavorable conformity between heart and face should obtain, then a friend of mankind ought rather to have this excuse ready: “If this man had power over himself, he will have been able to reform his morality; but his face was already molded. Why should the poor wretch awaken an unfavorable prepossession through something that was not in his power to alter?”

To infer from the face to the true nimbleness, greatness, and strength of the spirit is also deceptive. Favorable features can at most only prophesy a potential and capacity for this greatness, but whether this potential is realized and is raised to perfection is another matter entirely. The dullard who wants to amount to something adopts with much effort the self-important air of a scholar, of a clever, spirited, and profound man; and the greatest men are commonly so rough and ready in their face, features, and decency that their beautiful soul does not shine through in a beautiful body."

Can anyone give me a rundown on my physiognomy?

>>19094035
>>19094185
First, I would say that there is some autism that develops in having technology form a replacememt for parents. And there is little natural interaction, perhaps even an extreme of emotions because of the increased role of anxious mothers.
Then there is also preschool and daycare which introduces an unfamiliar 'mothering' into kids.

A great part of it however is the polarity that we face, what was for some time referred to as striving in management and propaganda. An individual is expected to be at once self-reliant and rigidly part of a team, relentlessly selfless yet cruelly competitive. This absolute contradiction finds its expression in the clownish face, grotesque yet childish.
This competitive cooperation, individualising empathy, consensual deatruction, or managerial openness is also increased with the increase of women in offices. It is feminisation of work character which takes the place of uniforms, and the more 'human resources' intervenes the more feminine yet rigid it becomes.

You'll see it even with Chads at bars and pubs any time there is a workplace meeting

>>19094234
In short, the bourgeois and humanized version of "WE ARE WE ARE WALMART!"

>>19094207
inb4 autism

>>19094185
Another aspect is also distance and the mundane which increases along with digital technology. The soi face is essentially bridging the gap between natural expression and physical communication of brotherly intimacy. A bit like the elbow bump takes over where there are mandates against shaking hands.
And where there is no authentic wealth or technology one must make up for it, create for it a dominion which is not inherent in it. much like the marketing excesses, although this should not be taken literally, as for some people there is an excitement for the mundane products, and this is authentic to them.

>>19094294
>Modern man thinks he is unique, that he is somehow autonomous of the law, even when there is more conformity than ever. Even before theories of capitalism people pointed out how towns in the 12th century had more unique character than the entire continent in industrial times.
The reality is that capitalism, in its social form, is only meant to maintain bourgeois appearances. It gives the appearance of individuality while also maintaining the impoverished and austere character of technological competition and destruction. The soi face is the end result of this. It is contradiction within the very physiognomy of man, and something that surpasses ideology and systems.
And with this, it is something of a last gasp of individuality while breathing in the stench of the corpse.

>>19094294
>Modern man thinks he is unique, that he is somehow autonomous of the law, even when there is more conformity than ever. Even before theories of capitalism people pointed out how towns in the 12th century had more unique character than the entire continent in industrial times.
>The reality is that capitalism, in its social form, is only meant to maintain bourgeois appearances. It gives the appearance of individuality while also maintaining the impoverished and austere character of technological competition and destruction. The soi face is the end result of this. It is contradiction within the very physiognomy of man, and something that surpasses ideology and systems.
And with this, it is something of a last gasp of individuality while breathing in the stench of the corpse.

>>19080092
This is true in my case, I was a soft child and very kind who made friends easily although hideously ugly and odd looking. My bitterness of course started at an age when boys and girls started to get attracted to each other, when other boys would place importance on what girls found attractive. I still made friends in high school though out of necessity. The odd looks I'd get from adults and children was telling as a child, I knew something was wrong with me from the age of 6/7, even some adults and children would tell me straight forwardly that I was ugly, even those that I thought were my friends and even very close family members. I turned into a bitter cunt after years of that sort of treatment, but as an adult it is of course nonexistent because no one openly says anything as an adult although I still get those "looks". I still have some semblance of a conscious left, although I will stonewall people and make it obvious I want to be left alone and for some reason I'm very carefree about thievery, but that is probably due to unrelated childhood experiences. Getting drunk does let the warmth in me radiate, but I prefer not to drink because in my drunken reverie I know deep down that I'm deluding myself, then I have to get so drunk that I simply do not think at all, which is very bad for my health especially since I am not a lightweight.

>>19094207
You look like Beavis IRL

>>19094535
Based

>>19080059
I can tell someone's political opinions just by their shoes.

>>19094557
okay guess

>>19094557
And women can tell you're a virgin by the same measure.

>>19094587
left-leaning centrist.

>>19094656
correct answer is nazbol/ecofash

>>19092158
Has he actually killed himself yet?

>>19094656
Dude those are pretty standard workout shoes. How could you presume to tell someone's opinions from that?

>>19088302
>>19090408
If I remember correctly that Howard Wolowitz guy in that picture either has Klinefelter's syndrome or some other chromosomal deformity

>>19094684
it's easier with the more blatant ones. people with practical shoes, especially well used ones or outdoors-oriented, tend to be right wing. those yellow-stitched black boots, anything platformed, anything edgy or overly decorative, and generally impractical shoes tends to be left wing. trendy newer office wear = left. more traditional or toned down dress styles = right or centrist. there are also certain brand fixations for each. for example, right wing people wear hiking boots often even just around the city. shoes with pointy toes are leftwing or center-left. leftwing loves red, yellow, and black. right loves white, brown, tan, and blue.
>>19094662
drats. the laces were flashy.

What do they read?

>>19086128
>important
sorry for wasting your time but kek

>>19094778
American Psycho
Less Than Zero

>>19094778
Mishima.

>>19090417
I cannot figure out what argument you are making or why that picture would support it. I'm guessing you think this picture refutes the idea that hardships make people ugly. Do you think that actress actually endured hardships? Do you think Game of Thrones is a documentary? Of fucking course she is beautiful in both she is an actress selected by Hollywood who has professional makeup and costumes and lighting you absolute fucking retard.

>>19096299
I think he's trying to say he finds her unattractive, lol.

>>19094778
>all white people look the same.jpg

>>19093631
Pure Americana
Need me a girl like this.
So hot on all levels.

>>19094072
He has autism and thus high mutational load

>>19093717
Meds

>>19092247
>>19092266
He looks like a thug. I believe in physiognomy but don’t trust incel midwits and glowniggers to actually know what they are looking at. Instead they worship the altar of saint Chad without realizing when “Chad” traits can be ugly/dysgenic.

>>19094207
>slopped forehead
Things ain’t looking good, bud. Chin and face is cute tho.

>>19080059
why the hell would you need to learn from a book how to judge people by what they look like? everyone is constantly doing this rapidly, automatically and unconsciously.

>>19094207
You've got the face of a Dane.

>>19088346
Adolescent ENTP

>>19082038
you're just a number, cope

>>19091117
I dunno, Trudeau looks kinda dumb to me, like he's a poseur, a stooge without integrity.

>>19096305
She’s weird looking but not ugly.

>>19093978
cope

>>19096978
yeah this, extremely danish phenotype

>>19094207
You’ve got the sloped cranium of a mail coach robber.

All beautiful and non-beautiful people should read this

>>19099017
>science
>a woman

Test

The first thing I notice is if they look friendly or not.
I also notice I have low rapport with people that look different from me. If both the looks and mindset is too different it's hopeless.

>>19099070
Two days.

>>19094207
filthy thalmor phenotype

>>19080059
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/07/new-artificial-intelligence-can-tell-whether-youre-gay-or-straight-from-a-photograph

Relevant to the thread.

Also the Chinamen did something similar trying to detect criminal faces.

>>19080059
From biological aspects isn't it a thing that we are attracted to beautiful and young looking people because they are better mates for reproduction, and "ugly people" are geneticly flawed, like for example crooked back. (You don't want the child whit crooked back).
Beeing fat is more modern but can still be applied to the same rule.

>>19080092
It's more that being ugly makes people treat you in a generally negative way, so people below a certain intellectual threshold tend to give up and become what they've been treated like their whole lives.

>>19087246
Oh it’s just some nazi bs, move along folks

>>19100083
Btfo

>>19093717
Based.

>>19100083
Being a Nazi is when you like the study of genetics

Did you know that IQ is 80% genetic and all from your mother. I'm sure yours was very retarded.

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Price. Serious answer, explains the causes as well.

>>19091783
This filters /lit/.

>>19085109

Nah, your appearance communicates your immediate health and state of mind. And some of that is accrued, but not most of it

>>19101397

I looked at the studies to see, if you read the twin studies look at how they got to that .8 , they part from assuming all similarity in twin IQ is genetic, they look at the difference between the differences of identical and nonidentical twin IQ , then what is the same between each they assume is due to genetics what is different (the variation) is due to environment

but the problem lies in that what is the same in the IQ between 2 identical twins or nonidentical twins can be due to environment, the study being done in an afluent country, in adoption studies with different environment people who adopt usually have good means, just growing up with different parents is not enough to say all difference is due to environment, environments could have been extremely similar, more so considering the extremely tiny sample size the studies had of less than 50

also the word hereditary seems to be a bit of a misnomer by the part of the researches as it was genetic in the sense of the genes they ended up getting at birth but not that the parents were smart themselves necessarily, it varied a lot among non twin brothers as an example, even nonidentical twins it already went down considerably

Dutton's research output is disgusting and gives me hope to one day become a pseud grifter

>>19080059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zknrBO0EIrE

>>19103071
He's just one part of a massive ocean of shit

>>19086022
>>19088008
>>19090247
>Aristotle

>He whose hair turns grey or hoary in the time of his youth, is generally given to women, vain, false, unstable, and talkative. [Note. That whatever signification the hair has in men, it has the same in women also.]

> To be of tall stature and corpulent with it, denotes him to be not only handsome but valiant also, but of no extraordinary understanding, and which is worst of all, ungrateful and trepanning. He who is extremely tall and very lean and thin is a projecting man, that designs no good to himself, and suspects every one to be as bad as himself, importunate to obtain what he desires, and extremely wedded to his own humour. He who is thick and short, is vain, envious, suspicious, and very shallow of apprehension, easy of belief, but very long before he will forget an injury. He who is lean and short but upright withal, is, by the rules of physiognomy, wise and ingenious, bold and confident, and of a good understanding, but of a deceitful heart.

tallfags and coomers btfo

>>19104598
Manlets had cope even back then eh?

>>19080059
best physiognomy is innate - programmed into your biological instincts. you shouldn't read books on it -_-

>>19081478
Yeah bro, I heard a HARVARD professor said the same thing so it must be true. I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE HOLY SHIT wanna see my funko pops?

>>19106420
It's for brainlets.

>>19106750
The irony

>>19107320
shouldn't you be drinking a rick and morty ipa somewhere, loser?

>>19107392
Physiognomy is science you idiot.

>>19107399
learn how to read a thread, numbnuts

>>19107409
Its chuds spamming this fit shit retard

>>19084797
Some people can't just get rid of acne or regrow hair or grow a chin dog. Your genetics can be fucked. I have done two rounds of accutane and have tried every diet, cream, and lotion under the sun and I still get zits

>>19107428
not to derail, but accutane is absolute garbage for you. keep an eye on your health, if you develop autoimmune diseases, accutane could be the cause.

So know one knows.

It's just a white supremacy thing. If not, show me the physiognomy that says white features suggest evil or immorality. Now, let's go through the countless pages on how having a hawk-like nose makes a person sneaky.

I posted a thread about this on /sci/ and the replies here are way better. /lit/ unironically has better commentary on subjects entire boards are dedicated to... that or /sci/ is just really Reddit like everyone says. Who knows.
Enjoyed reading this thread. My opinion is still the same - I believe physiognomy has more truth to it than people can ever prove. But it'll never be scientifically validated in a concrete way - the same can be said about Jung's theories and I believe most of them too. In the absence of a missing link, personal observations and "intuition" are the most critical.
I think an anon who recently said only "midwits" and Redditors rely entirely on proof and evidence was unironically right.

>>19092304
Physiognomy mostly makes observations about behavior and quality of character. A lot of 4channel users don't have chad-like physiognomy but are probably high IQ based on how much they jack off about it.
Also smart men can make bad leaders. Half the people who got us into Iraq, Vietnam, and every other fuck up probably had degrees from Harvard or Yale Law and read more books than your average /lit/izen.
(Sorry for the autism if you were being ironic, couldn't tell)

>>19091783
From that thread:

>"Because the second degree—that is, a fine, regular form—properly constitutes beauty, it can be a good herald inasmuch as it promises an equally regular spirit, one that is perhaps placid, like a calm sea on a summer’s evening, gentle, incapable of great passion, be it good or ill; in short, it promises a tranquil, balanced, and orderly heart and mind. The reasons for this I gave earlier, but what they promise is admittedly nothing more than a hint, and just as a certain writer calls this regular form, if it be not enlivened by spiritual charms, a statuesque beauty, so the regularity of the spirit, which is supposed to accompany it, can likewise be the disposition to all that is beautiful, but often it remains mere disposition. Just as outwardly this regularity is intended only for the eye, so inwardly it also belongs, if not among the mute, then at least among the quiet charms that will never disturb, but seldom enliven, a spiritual pleasure."

>"Perhaps this is the appropriate juncture to mention that the greatest men have mostly possessed irregular features, because the passion that elevated them to greatness also caused them to develop early. Conversely, those handsome and suave gentlemen whose minds are filled with the portrait of their bodies are usually born only to convey, nurture, and delight in the thought “My, how beautiful I am!” Julius Caesar may always have carried a picture of Venus with him, whose son he claimed to be; but he will have shown it mostly to ladies. In the Roman senate and in the three hundred battles that made him great, he surely never thought that he was a beautiful man—but of course after his triumphs he did so all the more."

Brilliant.

>>19109348
Whites did invent/popularize things like equality, anti-slavery and freedom so I think it's fair to call them the least evil race.

>>19094207
I can do a rundown on yo style nigga.
Shave that face clean.
Moisturise your skin and get a little tan if you don't roast lol.
Conditioner on that hair, and short back and sides to compliment the shape of your head.
t. literally work in fashion.

>>19099937
Can they do the same for pedophilia?

>>19110018
They also fought those every step of the way.

>>19109986
Basado

>>19109977
Trudeau is handsome and retarded

>>19111602
Non he's good because he's beautiful.

>>19080092
I'm not sure, It's been proven multiple times that people with >80IQ lack the mental hardware to gauge the consequences of their actions, and be members of society. Such low IQ can be a result of developmental difficulties which might manifest in other physical deformities

>>19084797
With looks, just like IQ, you can be in the bottom or top 10% of the pack genetically. No matter how the former guy tries, he won't catch up to the latter one, if the latter one no matter what he does.

>>19092304
And also Prime Minister, fellow Mongolian basketweaving enthusiast.

>>19104598
reading ancient physiognomy is more interesting than reading modern since it gives insight into what kind of people lived back then and there.

>>19110467
cope.

>>19109986
>In the Roman senate and in the three hundred battles that made him great, he surely never thought that he was a beautiful man
I doubt this.

>>19113059
Dilate.

>>19083457
>115IQ
Guess that's what I am.

>>19094535

>>19081478
Machine Learning begs to differ

>>19091117
Best argument in the thread.

>>19081478
True

>>19083343
based sigma eugenicist

>>19094513
I think you should be grateful for what you have. You are "ugly", sure, but you are valid. You have 4 functional limbs, and functional organs. Every time i heard ugly or short manlet whine, i think that they are lucky to be valid, not be wheelchair bound or something. See, it's better to be ugly or very short, but valid, than tall but disabled.
In any case, you are ugly. Okay. Go date black women, or even african women. Seriously. If it doesn't work within your own race, because they have standards too high, downgrade your dating pool. It works.