/lit/ - Literature

>>19083285
there is nothing sincere about this website.

>>19083310
You sound sincere in your (You)

>>19083285
These same people thaf dicuss theology on /lit/ never go to church. In fact, the reason why they supposely grab onto "Christ" is to turn their back on their peers. It's just another way of trying to be better than "normies".
Also, this picture is a blasphemy.

>>19083351
This. The same tradcaths here now would have been atheist neckbeards 10 years ago. It's a contrarian thing

>>19083351
>>19083363
Perhaps the internet is growing up and knows that it can not love only with food?

I admit, a large majority of new believes dont seem to be going to church but isnt a relationship with God first before family?

Blasphemy? How so? The fact that Jesus looks like an Anglo?

>>19083380
>love
*live

Being raided by Jehovah's Witnesses apparently. Guess this shitpile counts as missionary work because of covid restrictions

>>19083310
>projecting
I come here (any boards) only for Christian threads because I unironically consider it to be the overall highest quality theological discussion anywhere on the Internet.

>>19083380
>Blasphemy? How so?
Saint Peter is turned into a frog-man hybrid.

>>19083285
watch this video if you want to be 100% sure of going to heaven /lit/ it's easy to be saved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dqw_fJeBD0&t=9s

>>19083406
I cum

>>19083351
anon going to church isn't that difficult.

>>19083441
I'm sure (You) do, son, I'm sure you do.

>>19083489
Sure it is. It's like a nursing home without a television.

>>19083439
>KJV Only
>Steven Anderson
How's your koine greek going anon?

>>19083406
Well said brother.

>>19083285
There's just more tradcath shilling but that's about it

>>19083380
>the internet is growing up
kek, actually open a christian thread every once in a while

>>19083351
>It's just another way of trying to be better than "normies".
this. identity through negation
>>19083380
>Perhaps the internet is growing up
its definitely a regression phase

>>19083285
Atheists who read theology.

We just like wearing costumes and chanting.

>>19083285
Kek, 4chan is nihilistically degenerate and contrarian if anything. All you see is larp, any sincere Christian would have left this shithole long ago.

>>19084238
>And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
>And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
>When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

>>19084550
kek imagine scouring the bible for excuses to browse 4chan
meme christianity has reached its peak

>>19084728
People preach and give Bibles to prisoners, what's wrong with doing the same for a bunch of schizoids who likely haven't sinned as badly as those in bondage?
Also, I didn't need to scour. Mark 2 has always remained in my heart since the first time I read it.

>>19084869
You're shitting up the board with your memes
Lost young men here are turning to "christianity" because they're lost and aimless, in a year they'll move on to the latest epic fad, but in the meantime you people are obnoxious

>>19084878
If you're >>19084238 stop baiting for Christians if you don't want them to respond.

>>19083406
blessed

>>19084896
I'm not that guy. I'm just tired of zoomers who converted two weeks ago evangelizing on an anime imageboard when they would've been militant atheists had they been born a bit earlier. This isn't a larp board

>>19083310
I am sincerely hory and misogynistic, but that's about it.

>>19083363
>The same tradcaths here now would have been atheist neckbeards 10 years ago. It's a contrarian thing

Maybe, maybe not. The seed has fallen on them, for whatever reason, and what that will result in in the final analysis, only God knows.

>Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path.
>The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away.
>The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful.
>But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.
Matthew 13:18-23

>>19084951
some people will always be easy to influence and vulnerable, given how hard christianity is being shilled on here lately, it's no wonder
if discord trannies can get anons to cut off their cocks, I'm not surprised you people can get them to "convert" albeit temporarily

>>19083351
this, fuck religious fags

>>19084908
>This isn't a larp board
It is actually. The way that /lit/ keeps it from being retarded zoomers is larping heavily into various religions and gatekeeping the fuck out of them. Retarded boomers who think it's the 90s and there's no Sufi dervish option, only chocolate or vanilla, are the real bane of the board.

>>19084977
>The way that /lit/ keeps it from being retarded zoomers is larping heavily into various religions and gatekeeping the fuck out of them
That is exactly what attracts aimless zoomers to this place you retard. Haha bro le epic underground community of ORTHOBROS XDD fuck modernity amirite? Sent from my iPhone

>>19084728
lmao

>>19084728
not only that, in the bible specifically it says that jesus did what he did to make new converts meanwhile these tradcath fags are just browsing 4chan for their own amusement and entertainment

>>19084951
Just a heads up, that isn't the tradcath version.
>>19084984
To be fair to anon, the board used have Shinto, Islam, Buddhism, and so on. The board has way more stupid Christians now that kind of thing stopped. The Marie Kondo teaches us Shinto meme was probably the last of that.

>>19084984
>the best thing he could think to larp as was an orthobro
>Nooooo it's vanilla chocolate and strawberry! All the weird flavours!
kek, do you really know that little about world religion? You could at least read Burckhardt. Even the Guenon fags have gone further outside your safety zone.

>>19085019
>>the best thing he could think to larp as was an orthobro
That's because the christians are the most outspoken and obnoxious minority on this board by far.
>>19085007
There were, about a year ago, but now I barely see threads like these anymore.

>>19083285
the faith is a jewish thing. Myth and reason were the same before christianism (myth is simpler way to teach plebs complex concepts). Before christianism people were theist two, even monotheist as stoics and Aristotle, neoplatonists, daoists and hinduists. Christianism is a popular neoplatonized cult of jewish fanatic nature

>>19085006
The tradzoomers think they are evangelizing by making their abhorrent threads on here.

>>19085030
>christians are the most outspoken and obnoxious minority on this board by far.
Probably because you're triggered by them and also cannot think of anything else to larp as. It's a formula which will lead you to more Christian posts and probably zero books outside that comfort zone. You being triggered is what gave you more than ever to be triggered about, and I bet you not only respond but bump them to give them a greater chance of flourishing.

>>19085042
>Probably because you're triggered by them
Stop the dishonest bullshit, open the catalog, and count the number of threads about christianity, then compare that to the number of threads about literally fucking anything else.
>I bet you not only respond but bump them to give them a greater chance of flourishing.
Not usually. They don't need me in order to get posts, these people like jerking themselves off in a circle so even if nobody responds they'll respond to each other

>>19085030
>There were, about a year ago, but now I barely see threads like these anymore.
Yah, I'm thinking that's because of the lack of LARP. Religion of the month LARPing didn't attract those new posters because they happen after it stopped. Lots of old threads which tried to make it a Christian board didn't go anywhere because the immediate response was
>Sorry we're Hindu this week

>>19083441

Such blasphemy! I would like to say the cliched phrase but it appears "shame" would not be adequate enough to the pollution you're in.

>>19085047
>Noooo please keep the topic on chocolate, vanilla and strawberry flavours!
So, what you did you do for Ghost Month this year?

>>19085058
>that's because of the lack of LARP.
But the current christian trend is very much a larp. It also wasn't a FOTM thing, there was guenonposting for a long time, buddhist threads also went on for a long time, etc.

>>19085076
Anon, are you saying the Guenonfags were not LARP because they're Muslim or some retarded logic like that? The Guenonfags are extreme LARPers.

>>19084728
>scouring the bible
>not knowing Matthew 9:10-12
Please keep up brainlet. If you’re going to criticize something atleast do it effectively. Every Christian knows these verses.

>>19084973
>Google image results shows only other 4chan threads with the same picture photopasta

Your photo's credibility doesn't mean jack shit. Cope, seethe, and dilate.

>>19085086
Yes they were. It's all larping, always. But this particular brand of it is pure cancer and it was better when we had smaller communities that didn't evangelize in every single thread.
/lit/ is larp central, the people who come here lack an identity and think philosophers and religions will give them one, but at least people used to be less obnoxious about it.

>>19085104
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judaism

>>19085047
>Stop the dishonest bullshit, open the catalog, and count the number of threads about christianity
A lot of those are pagans seething about Christians lol

>>19085119
I see one pagan larp thread, the one with the subway shrine, that's it.

I'm an egalitarian, jannies should ban both christfag and marxfag threads.

>>19085106
It sounds like anon was right that only Christians trigger you so you only call them out and see them as cancer. It does sound like you're stuck in the 1990s edgy atheists Vs purity culture in the USA fight. You should probably put your focus elsewhere because it feels like you probably waste hours on trolls who know how much that triggers millennials.

>>19085134
Remove all
>threads on political philosophy
>threads on christianity
>threads on the Traditionalists
And the board quality has already vastly improved. Jannies don't care and a lot of them are larpers themselves

>>19083310
There's the sincerity of cloaking yourself in irony to keep your head above water.

>>19085141
>threads on the Traditionalists
>And the board quality has already
No SWTG?!?!?!?

>>19085140
I'm not a militant atheist at all and I care about as much about christianity as a religion than I do about hinduism or islam, that is to say, not at all. It's the community that is annoying, and you can't argue against this, since I've never seen a buddhist come into an unrelated thread to copypaste scripture and derail everything.

>>19085131
Right now at least. It's more plausible that we're getting raided by that pagan discord server that is being spammed in every half relevant thread. I tried to talk some of the people who had an anti-Christian attitude and very few of them were charitable and had the desire to have an earnest conversation. Most were just shitposting. All of this shitflinging just serves to decrease the quality of the discussion on this board.

>>19085141
Shut up lib go discuss "literature" on reddit
4chin is a site for social rejects and extremists

>>19085156
>since I've never seen a buddhist come into an unrelated thread to copypaste scripture and derail everything.
That's because you spend your time being triggered by Christians and following them like a moth to a flame. I've seen Buddhist on Buddhist fights derail whole threads because they can't agree what's scripture. Guenonfags are a board meme and they're Sufi so that attracts the usual comments. You're literally only reading what triggers you lol

>>19085110
>Wikipedia

Seriously? I thought the people of /lit/ were of a higher stature than this. But no, it seems that midwits and absolute brainlets stalk this place.

You do know Wikipedia is currently the most biased encyclopedia in the net, right? Cope.

>>19084728
Top kek

>>19085156
We literally have a Buddhist that keeps spamming a copy pasta about how Adi Shankara was in fact a crypto-Buddhist. I domt even post in Buddhist threads and know this lol

>>19085170
you claimed the pic i posted above was fake because it was only found in 4chan threads, well i show you that it wasn´t made up, keep coping religious fag

>>19085169
I hang out in buddhist threads occasionally and aside from >>19085174 I never see the shit you're talking about. I barely enter christian threads, they enter other threads. Stop finding excuses. You can't post anything without some zoomer going muh demonic deception, read the bible, repent etc. You haven't been on this board for long if it isn't jarring to you compared to even six months or a year ago.

>>19085186
>I hang out in buddhist threads occasionally and aside from >>19085174 # I never see the shit you're talking about
So you don't actually read anything that comes after an OP asking what to read first? Good to know. I only had to search Buddhism in the archives and half the front page after this thread's hits are antagonistic, including some Taoist who thinks Buddhism needs to suck more dick.

>>19085207
He only pays attention to the Christians, anon. The Taoist who is shitting up the board recently isn't going to make his radar.

>>19085186
The problem is that people get too heated here whenever they discuss these topics. I try my best to filter low-quality posts, but then there are times when the catalog is so chock full of garbage that I have to quit browsing altogether.

>>19085216
We're trying to activate his radar so he realises he's a triggered bitch whose feeding trolls all his precious attentions, anon.

>>19084908
>I'm just tired of zoomers who converted two weeks ago evangelizing on an anime imageboard when they would've been militant atheists
PRAISE GOD ALMIGHTY WHO TURNS WATERS INTO WINES

>>19085207
>half the front page after this thread's hits are antagonistic
I'm aware that most buddhist threads recently have been shit up by the muh demonic deception crowd, yes. You're proving my point.
>>19085216
>literally a single schizo
Wow it's fucking nothing
>>19085220
When most of the catalog is low quality, a filter doesn't do much

>>19085233
>shit up by the muh demonic deception crowd, yes. You're proving my point.
There's one thread with that. The Taoist has two threads. You probably spent a lot of time feeding the thread with demonic deception Christianity attention, while the Taoist doing it in two threads got none of your bumps or replies or attentions. The problem is you, dude.

>>19085243
But it's a fact that threads on most religions have died down on this board, except tradcath/ortho shilling which constantly has at least half a dozen threads on the catalog and that's a conservative estimate. You can't deny this

>>19085243
I don't think christzooms know what Taoism is. Buddhism is a softer target since if you already hate Californians all you need to do to feel righteous is change the script a little bit.

>>19085243
Yeah, he's glossing over any evidence that points to the contrary. He's literally coping rn

>>19085233
>>literally a single schizo
>Wow it's fucking nothing
>a single schizo cannot change this board
So, backtracking on the Guenon thing? Does Ossian autist mean nothing to you? Even now you're trying to divert conversation away from other religions to your pet religion. You're the metastatic cancer of the cancer you relate to most.

>>19085263
I'd like you to be right but the fact is the most cancerous community on this board by far is the christians. The rest doesn't even come close.
>>19085270
There was one guenonfag three years ago, but since then the meme got picked up by several people. I don't have a pet religion, you're just not addressing the simple fact that the bulk of the religious shitposting comes from one single community.

>>19085252
Read the thread. I said anon was probably right that the lack of LARP was the cause, though now I think it's probably because the retarded antiChristian is feeding the lowest hanging trolls of Christian LARPers.

>>19085279
>I don't have a pet religion, you're just not addressing the simple fact that the bulk of the religious shitposting comes from one single community.
It doesn't though. You just ignore every other religion because nothing triggers you like Christianity.

>>19085279
>There was one guenonfag three years ago
I can't follow this conversation but there is one guenonfag, he posted in the Upanishads thread today.

>>19085289
But he didn't post about Christianity so anon ignored the fuck out of him in favor of threads that light his fire.

>>19083351
based truthposter

>>19085284
>eeding the lowest hanging trolls of Christian LARPers.
they don't need to be fed
>>19085288
Whatever you want to believe.
>>19085289
A year ago guenonfag himself admitted he wasn't alone and that he'd take a break from shitposting

>>19085279
>the most cancerous community on this board by far is the christians.
Yeah, no, it's the people who spam "Christc*ck" all the time that shit up the board. There are four Christian-related threads on the catalog rn, only one of which seems like ortholarp. Pagans don't have any restrictions on making threads about Proclus, Ṛgveda, Zend-Avesta, etc. yet they still choose to invade threads like these instead of investigating sacred texts. But studying these things requires actual time and effort, so may it's not up their wheelhouse.

>>19085300
You seem to be feeding them regardless, and ignoring all evidence to the contrary. You really don't seem comfortable discussing any of the other religions or LARPs which used make your stated problem smaller, so I presume you actually like to have it as a problem and regularly triggering yourself.

>>19085302
>still choose to invade threads like these
What are you talking about? When have hindus or platonists invaded christian threads to post walls of text about their philosophy? There used to be a lot of discussion on texts in the platonism general (which was banned), hindu threads always invite discussion on scripture, same for buddhism, etc.
>>19085309
>You really don't seem comfortable discussing any of the other religions or LARPs which used make your stated problem smaller
What do you mean?

>>19085288
It’s amazing how Christkikes think people are triggered not by their constant flood of illiterate threads on a history board but by their shit-tier theology instead
We need a /re/ligion board already so all these subhumans can fuck off

>>19085330
/his/ exists. It's just that the jannies aren't doing the job they're not paid to do.

i say just delete /lit/ altogether because discussing books in imageboard format is the most horrid thing possible

>>19085321
>When have hindus or platonists invaded christian threads to post walls of text about their philosophy
I'm clearly not talking about that. Heck, I wish that was the case. The problem is that there is no real discussion going on -- only shitflinging and name calling. That's what I don't like. If Hindus want to present their case against somebody like St. Augustine in a cordial manner, that's fine by me. But the trouble is that they don't do that and what we usually get is baseless shitflinging, like we got at the start of this very thread. Btw, a good chunk of the posters in the platonism general were probably Christian (the discord server is still up).

>>19085330
/his/ is another story, don't derail the convo

>>19085072
he didn't do anything and now his ancestors are uneasy and causing him to sperg like a hungry ghost

All boards are pretty religious. Much more so than plebbit or the average white zoomer

>>19085386
>All boards are pretty religious.
You are delusional. /g/, /sci/, /his/, most of the interest and porn boards, /r9k/ and /adv/ are heavily atheistic. Whether they're good or not is another matter but the only boards that are very religious are /lit/, /x/ and /pol/

>>19085386
>All boards are pretty religious
Kek and the most religious board award goes to...... >>>/trash/

>>19085392
ironically /gif/ is a highly moralist if not outright highly religious board believe it or not

>>19085401
Perhaps. either way, the boards with a lot of traffic like /a/, /v/, /vg/ and so on are mostly atheistic if not downright apatheistic. It's easy to forget that only /x/ and /lit/ really give a shit about spirituality in the first place.

>>19085405
>anime

>not a religion

Pick 1

>>19085412
Consuming japanese media is not a religion

>>19085412
/out/ has the same thing

>>19085401
coomers and orthobros are literally the same person

>>19083285
It's the most Islamic board because Islam is the religion of serious literature and scholarship

>>19085418
What are otaku then?

>>19084878
Better for them to be consoled, albeit temporarily, by Christ than to turn to drug addiction, porn addiction, autogynephelia, or hatred towards one's fellow man.
I don't understand the bitterness that drives your antipathy, but I hope you can step back and relax from this site.

>>19085401
An anon once wrote an excellent pasta on this problem

>Notice how the most depraved corners of the internet are always the most thoroughly infected with moralists! You will, without doubt, find the strongest outbursts of offended moral feeling on /d/ and /y/ and /aco/ and all the other boards and threads catering to savage and delinquent tastes. The man in the pornographic state of mind, the most subjective and dictatorial state of mind, wants to impose his own preferences upon others, whether they be sensual or aesthetic or political—sexual arousal engenders a rapacious intellect. Shotacons and lolicons are particularly guilty of this. They delude themselves into thinking that because they worship rarefied, hyper-idealised, non-threatening simulacra of innocence and cuteness that they actually value those things more than other people and, what’s more, they develop such unrealistic standards that their attitude toward things that fail to meet the mark becomes patently genocidal. The weeaboo would blot out all 3D life if he could. Now this might sound based, and it might be if it occurred on any conscious level, as a deliberately chosen evil. But the fact is that the typical resident of 4chan is unconsciously conditioned by the board culture to engage in a 24-hour doublethink that allows him to indulge in amorality and hedonism and cruelty and yet also to (completely self-seriously, without the faintest trace of irony) in the very same moment stand on his soapbox and lecture others about their degeneracy; to wail about how fags or trannies or libtards or poltards—or whatever transitory stimulus happens to be causing him (self-inflicted) psychic pain at the moment—are THE one ill responsible for the coming collapse of civilisation. It is a kind of ethical schizophrenia. And it is extremely annoying and extremely tiring. A clone army of immoral moralfags. Who could’ve thought! This is the real nihilist, this is the miserable species of future man Nietzsche warned us about. In terms of unscrupulousness, the conscious egoist cannot hope to surpass the hypocrite!—Of course, you say, this is just human nature. Yes, indeed, but never has it been so potent, so highly concentrated... a maximum of degeneracy and a maximum of Puritanism in the very same creature, duplicated thousands of times, churned out in their digital hundreds. Quite the achievement!

>>19085431
Obsessed with japan. It's not a belief system
>>19085432
Yes because there are only two options in life, christianity and ODing on heroin.
Also spare me the condescension

>>19085441
>English meme meaning of otaku
Get off this site, gweilo

>>19085441
That anon is being consistent. You must choose between good and evil.

>>19085439
can you explain this? i don´t understand

>>19085449
Fuck I read otaku and my brain replaced it with weeb
Anyway devotion to something isn't a religion. Religion implies faith, belief, ritualism etc
>>19085450
No, both of you are being proselytes who can't see past your particular brand of bullshit

>>19085439
Could western man have been individually atomized into a single collective living of a metaphysical idea with or without God in these past 1200 years? This is the answer i cant yet grasp.. did it happen because of God or would it have happened regardless of western man's understanding of God?

>one anon is upset this is not as Christian a board as he thought because he really wanted the internet hate machine to be Christian so he could be persecuted
>keeps expecting the Spanish inquisition
>gets Saracens instead
kek, 4chan hasn't been Christian since Anno told us the angels mean nothing

>>19085458
>faith, belief, ritualism
...so does otaku. It's literally replacing your house with your hobby.

>>19085453
Anon exposing the hypocrisy of average 4chan posters who wallow in degenerate behavior all day and yet have the audacity to moan about muh cultural decline and degeneracy of normalfags.

>>19085450
Good and evil have no objective existence. Grow up. Stop watching Disney Presents the Avengers.

>>19085458
That anon made a comparison between two possible states of life and said one is better than the other. Whats wrong about that?

>>19083351
Fallacious post that amounts to an appeal to hypocrisy.

>>19085418
That's where you're wrong Anon-kun

>>19085492
Yeah, you're right, evil has no substantial existence.

>>19085441
>Yes because there are only two options in life, christianity and ODing on heroin.
Not what I said, not that it matters though. Your ressentiment towards Christianity clearly blinds you from any nuanced opinion of it.

>>19085494
>good and evil

>>19085506
It's a false comparison. Just because you shill christianity won't stop neets from jacking off, and just because some of these neets get swayed by your psyop doesn't mean they'd have become drug addicts otherwise. You're being dishonest but that's par for the course

>>19085502
neither does good lol

>>19085519
Not him, but I doubt the guy using Nietzschean terminology is running a Christian shilling psyop unironically. I think you've convinced yourself he must be Christian even when he's using words which would probably have him describe even grammar as a useless god.

>>19085528
It doesn't matter what he is, my point still stands.

>>19085525
Heres you're (You)

The amount of seethe in this thread lol.

Jesus Christ is Lord.

>>19085533
Your point seems predicated on him shilling Christianity and running a psyop, so I'd say it strikes right at the heart of the matter that only you think Nietzscheans are Christians.

>>19085519
All I said was that it would be better for them to find consolation in Christ than to turn to those less healthy behaviors, which you would be delusional to deny are quite prevalent on here.
I did not say, however, that those were the only two options possible. Your continued dishonesty and impetulance are, quite frankly, rather silly.
I'm open to sincere discussion, but if you'd rather keep strawmanning then I'll leave it at this.

>>19085538
And here's your cope.

>>19085544
>only you think Nietzscheans are Christians.
Come now anon, there's probably a few retards who think that.

>>19085538

>>19085548
Filed a complaint for failure of delivery.

>>19085544
Just replace the "you" and "your" in my post by "they" and "their"
>>19085545
Yes, it's better for someone to adopt healthy behaviors than it is to adopt unhealthy behaviors. If they truly found "consolation in christ" though (and weren't larping about it) they'd leave this place, same for the buddhists who claim to be observing the precepts by the way.
But they don't, and just latch on to christianity as a shiny new ideology to shitpost about, leading to threads being polluted by zoomerisms like >>19085539 (which in this case is obviously bait but not always)

>>19085570
You're the one who copes, I was merely pointing it out.
>muh good and evil
lol

>>19085571
>leading to threads being polluted by zoomerisms like
Seriously? You chose to focus on that and ignored the five or so posts that had a contrary message yet still sound like they were written by tiktok browsing zoomers? You're dishonest, plain and simple.

>>19085578
Cope for what?

>>19085594
Believing in lies

>>19085597
Whatever you say

>>19085586
I don't see which posts you're talking about.
Anyway I'm not that far gone that I would completely refuse to question myself. It seems extremely obvious to me that this board has gone from aggregating a multitude of different larps to harboring one big (or most likely, vocal) community of christians who relentlessly shit up threads their meme ideology doesn't agree with.
It's possible that I'm blowing it out of proportion out of habit since I come here a lot, but it really doesn't seem to be the case.

>>19085619
These posts, my friend: >>19085330 >>19085400
>>19085492 now I want you to go the catalog, archive, and warosu and show me those Christian shitposters that are plaguing the board. I would bet that they are no different from Jihadposters and Buddhaspammers

>>19085641
The last two are not anti-christian, just anti-religion in general.
>show me those Christian shitposters
There are several active threads on the catalog, the most shitpost-y ones being this one and the S. Rose one. For other examples there was a thread on zen earlier today being spammed by some dude calling everything demonic and posting walls of text from scripture. Muslim and buddha posters aren't as active. But our browsing habits probably aren't the same and so the posts we notice aren't the same either.

>>19085571
I agree on the Buddhist comment, there is nothing more dishonest than Western lay-Buddhists. If they truly believe in what they discuss, they would go to a monastery.
I disagree with regard to Christianity though, for it is a religion which doesn't call its adherents to abandon the material world in the same way. It does teach the importance of the world to come, but also emphasizes that our actions and lives in this world matter. There are plenty of instructive verses saying to go out and spread the word, and Jesus himself put great effort into spending time with sinners.
Yes, there are dishonest zoomer larpers; I won't deny that there are those who claim the title of Christian for self-flattering vanity or simply for trolling. That said, I will also push forward that there are honest ones who truly believe what they say. Perhaps they are rare, maybe even extremely so, but I will not discount their existence entirely, nor will I discredit their belief for simply being on here. Many struggle to break bad habits, and it is those that are sick who are in need of a doctor.

>>19085652
>I disagree with regard to Christianity though, for it is a religion which doesn't call its adherents to abandon the material world in the same way.
You clearly don't understand either religion. Who is the real world-denier, someone who believes nirvana is samsara, or someone who wants to escape to the kingdom of heaven?

>>19085650
>the S. Rose one.
Yeah, I admit that thread is pretty bad. But there are three other threads that seem perfectly fine.
>but our browsing habits are probably not the same
Yeah, maybe this is the cause for why we have differing opinions on the issue. Different timezones, filters, interests, etc

>>19083285
Ok coper

>>19085652
The issue here is that Christianity by essence promotes proselityzing, while Buddhism (excluding nichiren if you want to be autistic about it) does not, making their posters much more tolerable. I'm taking the buddhist example but it also generally applies to hindu posters, less so to muslim posters but there aren't as many anyway. If you truly and genuinely believe, that's fine, but evangelizing on an anime imageboard is both useless and annoying to those who simply aren't interested in christianity. If I don't believe, spamming a thread I'm participating in with "repent", "this is demonic" and so on will only serve to make me even more annoyed at your entire community.
>those that are sick
Christianity is not the only "remedy", though. /lit/ has gone through phases of different answers to the self improvement issue.

>>19085663
Do you follow the Vinaya? Clearly not, a member of a sangha wouldn't be using the internet to argue with people for their ego on imageboards. Argue semantically all you want, but the lived practices of the two religions will not change.

>>19085686
All buddhism is not theravada.
I know there's one guy here who practices a mix of chan and pure land, which doesn't seem hypocritical since it's the perfect practice for laity. He is however making a mistake by continuing to come here.

>>19085686
Millions of Buddhists do not take monastic vows and are considered laity. Are the only "real" Christians the desert fathers?

>>19085665
I don't use filters actually. Maybe I should start, but I'm scared of missing out on good threads.

>>19085683
I just hope that you also condemn people that post "kike", "cuck", etc and contribute nothing to the conversation.

>>19085700
What does this have to do with the post you replied to?

>>19085412
>>19085500
ばさど

>>19085696
I think 4chan-X and KurobaEx have settings where you can choose whether to hide or remove the thread/post that contains the filtered phrase. You can also use RegEx commands to make sure it filters "transvestite" but not "transcendental"

>>19085683
Buddhism is a proselytizing religion. There's a reason it is a pan-Asian belief system while, Advaita Vedanta for instance, is only beloved by Hindus and theosophists. But generally I'd agree with you that I seldom see Buddhists invading non-Buddhist or non-indological threads demanding you read the sutta pitaka and that if you don't you're some variety of retard, infidel, degenerate, demon, devil, satanist, atheist, general purpose villain, etc. But that being said, start with the Jeets.

>>19085702
He was complaining about certain Christian larpers telling people to repent on /lit/, but I want to know if he feels the same about people who do essentially the same thing but are not Christian.

>>19085716
>Buddhism is a proselytizing religion.
Where does it instruct followers to evangelize?
Theravada doesn't, Vajrayana doesn't, Mahayana doesn't aside from Nichiren and perhaps some Pure Land strands

>>19085725
This is moving the goalposts, but if people are posting garbage then they should be told to fuck off whatever it is they're posting.

>>19085683
>If you truly and genuinely believe, that's fine, but evangelizing on an anime imageboard is both useless and annoying to those who simply aren't interested in christianity. If I don't believe, spamming a thread I'm participating in with "repent", "this is demonic" and so on will only serve to make me even more annoyed at your entire community.
I understand and agree with you on this, I think that people doing that are self-flattering sinners that would do well to reread the Sermon on the Mount (in which Jesus expresses the importance of judging oneself rather than others, and condemns the vanity of those who accuse others). I try my best to not discuss Christianity or the Bible in threads that are not related to them, but I don't think that the threads which are should be forbidden. The door is open to the one who knocks; if people seek to discuss it I will try my best to engage with them.
I understand your frustrations better now, and share some of them as well. Paul writes in a few of his epistles the importance of not judging those outside the community, but that the judgement of Christians should be given to Christians. Likewise, I think that there are many who call themselves Christians that are not behaving as they should, but I shall refrain from getting ahead of myself as I too fall short of my principles at times.
I've got to go for now, but I am glad to have had this discussion.

>>19085392
/his/ is about as religious as /pol/ and /lit/, which is higher than average for secular internet communities

>>19085730
I strongly suggest you read primary material instead of wikipedia, or at the very least some general historical surveys. The Mahayana schools all emphasis a "bodhisattva" ideal whose mission is to liberate all sentient beings. Theravada somehow made it to Thailand. I ask you a simple question: why does Nichiren Buddhism exist if Buddha was born in India?

>>19085748
>I don't think that the threads which are should be forbidden.
Me neither, anything I might've said about this was inflammatory. If the threads are qualitative and self-contained, as well as literature-related (i.e. not /his/ material) then it's fine.
Thanks for engaging in earnest.

>>19085740
It's a demand for consistency, not moving goalposts (who set those in the first place? lol)

>>19085757
You have my answer anyway.

>>19083380
Any talk about community service, going to church to be apart of a group, spreading the word of God actually sitting down and praying everyday. It's all just shipositng

>>19085758
Thank you

>>19085392
/adv/ really made me realize just how fucked the average low-iq person is. Browsing that board is an exercise in misery.

>>19085782
I got the exact same feeling. These people barely even feel sentient.

>>19083285
Faith is the ritual sacrifice of humility for the sake of one’s vain mind. I don’t see the virtue in pride masked as self-sacrifice. But regardless, in death, no one is spared from the truth.

>>19085782
Same but with /lit/

>>19085392
you havent surfed enough anon. there is one board highly religious with almost no atheists

>>19083285
no, it was much better before. 4 years ago the threads were clean and worth reading. now it feels like eternal summer has taken hold and everyone needs to have a word without even thinking about it

>>19087175
>now it feels like eternal summer has taken hold and everyone needs to have a word without even thinking about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1R4jbnd10I

I'm a 100% atheist and will return to ignoring all religious threads now. Enjoy your discussions.

>>19083406
>the highest quality theological discussion comes from an anime website best known for harboring all manner of social outcasts and deviants
Are christcucks really that lacking in quality discussion?

>>19083397
JWs are writing letters here. Everyone else in my building got promo but I think they're on to me. Everyone got a copy of the Watchtower or something, but I got a card saying I could read the Bible. I think it's because I told them I was collecting promo when they could still doorknock.

>>19083285
thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE4emdrNqxw

Wtf bros?

>>19083439
Anderson is a retard, he was humiliated by James White
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnC8Y35Z2-Y

>>19089528
We're discussing whether Buddhists hate each other more than atheists hate Christians who remind them of the childhood faith.

>>19089542
There was one Buddhist thread last night and it ended up getting spammed into oblivion by a Christian retard. Before that, there was quality discussion with no bait. Buddhists don't hate each other but it seems clear who's always causing trouble.

>>19085683
>The issue here is that Christianity by essence promotes proselityzing
That's a Protestant thing. It's a sin in Catholicism the same way that denying the virgin birth or fasting rules would be.
Catholic law has all kinds of shit built in so anything done under duress won't count since long before the reformation too. That's why if an Inquisitor threatened your family, they would have to hurt your family and get the same confession after. It's also why the "act of faith" during the rehabilitation phase of the inquisition trial involved being deprived of air til you died- the act of faith was that God would restore you to life eternal.

>>19087201
How do you manage to ignore 50% of the board?

>>19089571
I can see Buddhists fighting in this thread and it looks like the people most pissed off about Christians are not Buddhists but atheists who have a particular fancy for making Christians the problem child. And because of that penchant, it does make it seem more likely that someone could be false flagging one.

>>19083406
Why don't you just go to church

>>19089586
That requires actual belief and not just a meme interest in religion for the "aesthetics"

>>19089586
Maybe he's not interested in architecture?

>>19089571

>>19089597
Epic orthobro, upvoted

>>19089597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkPmnlTlP2M

>>19089626
Not watching all this shit, what's it about?

>>19083285
Probably, but we can't be sure. This place has intellectual and philosophical curiosity towards religion, and some really loud and visible larpers. Intellectual musings are not the same as belief. The discussion is just shitflinging about stupid stuff, few good posts getting lost into the tide of shitposts.

>>19089584
Buddhists aren't particularly honest about what their religion teaches, and that's why that last thread required posting quotes from the Buddhists scriptures what the religion actually teaches. This resulted in indignant Buddhists contradicting each other over the existence of devils, the use of images, urine consumption, moral relativism, and so forth. One Buddhist was really irate, but the others were more reasonable. When the fact that Buddha taught his followers to consume human waste was brought up, this seems to have been particularly resented by the Buddhists. Attempt to dismiss it as "not a modern practice of today's Buddhists" was more intellectual dishonesty, because the religion's explicit teachings about the omniscience of Buddha and requirement that his followers observe all his teachings rather than their own ideas. Now all these facts were brought to light to the benefit of all those who had the opportunity to read and learn about Buddhism - including the curious Zen Koan that says Buddha was a "shit stick" (seriously). If all of these facts (none of the information was false) help people know more about Buddhism, then why the resentment? The thread was made by some one who obviously wanted to proselytize for Buddhism, and then got upset that an informed Christian presented uncomfortable facts that he could not refute. It's not the Christian's fault that Buddha said that he was "like the moon" and that "Buddha is exactly like the moon" and "Buddha is precisely like the moon" and from this we come to the conclusion that Buddhism worships the moon. Or that it condones idolatry because it says one should stare at the image of the Buddha and empty his mind of attachment in order to achieve a Buddha-mind. The Westerners who are being tricked into Buddhism are shocked when they discover that it is really about moral relativism, the rejection of concepts like right and wrong. So all this information came out, and therefore it was a good thread, not a bad one.

>>19089634
I skipped to the end and watched a bit, it's just two Christians that can't agree on how to interpret the bible.

>>19089571
Are you the Buddhist who repeatedly used the "Christer" insult? You fine fellow.

>>19089643
Fuck off, mentally ill faggot.

>>19089661
Not me but I know who you're talking about, that guy's pretty based.

>>19089662
You're a demonized, hateful wacko.

>>19089672
And you are literally unhinged. Fuck off back to your containment thread you retarded faggot.

>>19089667
By consenting to it you're guilty of blasphemy also.

>>19089643
Putting aside your complete misunderstanding of the Buddhist approach compared to the abrahamic one, this is precisely why you take the Buddhist metaphysics and disregard the superstitious shit. It makes /lit/ Buddhists seethe about muh western buddhism but it's the right call.

>>19089680
I don't care lmao, I'm not a christian
This is like a muslim accusing me of being an infidel. I don't believe in your bullshit so it literally doesn't matter in the slightest, seethe harder.

>>19089680
ok christer

>>19089675
You're in demonic torment. May God have mercy on you that you might recover your sanity. Bye.

>>19089692
And may you shut the fuck up and keep to your garbage threads instead of shutting up the interesting ones with your nonsense. Now fuck off.

>>19089687
I don't care if you care, either repent, or don't. It's was said so that you are without excuse and will be damned on the day of judgment.

>>19089684
Fine, but call yourself a neo-Buddhist then because you made up your own religion.

>>19089704
Couldn't care less, keep up the threats and fear mongering, you have nothing else kek

>>19089709
I don't even call myself a Buddhist, I just agree with their general views on reality.

>>19083380
The internet doesn't grow up, tastes for the youth change. The 20 year olds and teenagers that browsed in 2008 are not the same as the ones that browse now, and they do not think the same things are "cool". People (as in persons) grow up and leave, to let the new generation in. Like Trevor Moore, moot, and any number of oldfags who have families now. Maybe a site's demographics change and more elders arrive, but the fact doesn't change that for a site like this and the internet in general, it is primarily the youth.

>>19087161
/gif/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwiNWw_ZQeU

>>19083419
Well, with his new gained amphibian physique he doesn't need now to rely on less effective means of aquatic transportation, like faith for example, and can swim along his boy Jesus there.
I'd say it's an improvement.

>>19085405
Cute how you seem to assume that religiousness = spirituality.

>>19085430
The illiteracy ratio in muslim communities tends to say fuck you to your logic, unless you're being ironic.

>>19085683
>self improvement issue
Using "the denial of observation in order to preserve beliefs" as means of self improvement is as viable an option as plucking your eyes out of your skull to sharpen your third eye.

>>19089908
To be fair to anon, literacy in Athens was comparably low. Full literacy, like in Sparta, does not lead to a literary elite, while very limited literacy usually leads to dedicated scribes and scholarship.

>>19089955
And, in turn, promotes relying on authorities rather than your own critical thinking. A slippery slope if you ask me.

>>19083310
The only incorrect thing about this statement is that it doesn't say "the internet" instead of "this site"

>>19083310
There's plenty of sincere fiends and fools, and a few sages both secular and theological.

>>19089643
>shocked when they discover that it is really about moral relativism, the rejection of concepts like right and wrong.
Sounds extremely based. Nietzsche did say Buddhism was officially beyond good and evil, after all.

>>19089626
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkPmnlTlP2M
>timestamp 30:00
Holy based. Pastor Steven Anderson confirmed /lit/
Is he our guy, Christbros?

>>19090305
>based
>our guy
>___bros
If you needed any more proof that 4chan "christians" are twitter zoomers

>>19083351
Your mind on catholicism

>>19084238
>>19084728
>scowering
It's not that long of a book

>>19084960
I developed my own philosophy of the world before I read the bible. I read the bible and I realized the gospel was divine. It's that simple.

>>19083310
No just pol and b everything on boards like lit or v is 100% real and should be taken as such by everyone in minecraft

>>19083285
I am not larping. Christ is the Truth.

How hard is it for you to realize that the Gospels are divinely inspired? I'm not trying to brag but guys I had been to dozens of countries, read hundreds of books, knew a couple of languages, and developed my own philosophy of all things before I read the Bible. I read the old testament, thought it was eminently interesting, but it didn't seem divine. I read the Gospel and recognized it as truly divine and the best expression of morality we have available. I was an atheist prior to this. I believed in astral projection before Christ.

>>19090396
>>19090407
You got memed, as many other (sometimes intelligent people) did
You're not special and your delusion is not a testament to the truth of your religion

>>19085141
Gtfo Shitlib

>>19085180
>Heh. Religious fag can’t refute my onionspedia sourced comparative religious argument.
>Look here, Kiketheist, you really cant defeat my ugly ass drawing rendition of an iron age artwork of YHWH who was a “LE PAGAN WARRIOR SKY GOD”!

The absolute state of Fedorafags in 2021, everyone.

>>19090407
>and developed my own philosophy of all things
QRD?

>>19090407
Tl;dr
You’re a liar

>>19090407
You know it's a sin to lie, anon. Doesn't stop most Christians from making pious frauds

>>19090505
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Luke 18
It has nothing to do with me - I'm merely saying where I was in life and the power that the Gospel has.

>>19090407
>How hard is it for you
Good bait, you've framed it as an offensive line of questioning "why is the other person is too dumb to agree with me?" which makes you a 4channel poster first and foremost. Of course, the bigger joke is what you want agreement on is some christer boilerplate, some straight up dogmatic claim that can't even be demonstrated.

>>19090577
>>19090567
Good thing I'm telling the truth.

I'm only saying this because nearly all of the Christians I met as an atheist I thought were just people that had parents who quite literally beat it into them.

>>19090622
Prove proofs.

>>19090631
Ok so now you're a Buddhist too. Wasn't expecting that lol

>>19090646
Logic is unprovable and yet you believe that dogmatically. Ironically all robust logic systems have irrational concepts (Geometry has pi, algebra infinity, etc), which indicates that any robust morality has an element of irrationality that would circle the line. Have you read the gospels?

>>19090655
>Logic is unprovable
Yes, I agree with you, logic is provable. Thanks for proving my point.

>>19090670
Why are you disagreeing with me and not what I believe in? Shouldn't you attack the Gospel then?

>>19090655
You can't just nuke the discussion with nihilism and walk away. If everything is baseless and unproven why should God exist? Because you read a book once? Quit posturing that other people just haven't read the Bible and that's why they disagree. How hard is it for you to realize this is an English speaking literature forum?

>>19090696
>You can't just nuke the discussion with nihilism and walk away.
Logic being unprovable isn't nihilism.
>If everything is baseless and unproven why should God exist?
For the same reason you exist.
>Because you read a book once?
I didn't say there was a reason for me. I don't know where nor why the wind blows.
>Quit posturing that other people just haven't read the Bible and that's why they disagree.
Why not? They attack my arguments and not the Bible.
>How hard is it for you to realize this is an English speaking literature forum?
?

>>19090722
So because I exist, God exists? God exists in dependence on me? I figured as much, thanks Feuerbach-san

>>19090742
>So because I exist, God exists? God exists in dependence on me?
>Quit posturing that other people just haven't read the Bible and that's why they disagree.

>>19090742
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-Chapter-1/
Bro seriously, just read this and get back to me in an hour. If you still disagree that's fine but I have nothing to offer beyond that.

>>19090547
>>Look here, Kiketheist, you really cant defeat my ugly ass drawing rendition of an iron age artwork of YHWH who was a “LE PAGAN WARRIOR SKY GOD”!

i didn´t do the drawing, you dumbfuck, check the sources for once, christfag


man, religiousfaggots are low iq by default it seems, so keep coping

>>19090770
>just read this revelationary text that depends on localized miracles which never occurred again to sell itself
Yes I have read the Bible. Your Jehovah' Witness script or whatever you think you're doing doesn't work on more literate people than you. It's not a story I haven't heard before. Rereading it will not make me believe it. Thank you for your opinion on the matter.

>>19090789
>man, religiousfaggots are low iq by default it seems, so keep coping
Typically yes. Intelligence makes life easier and attaining pleasures of the world easier, but eventually they get tiresome, just takes intelligent folks longer to realize that the game they're playing is vanity too.

>>19090810
Have you disagreed with anything in the Gospel in our discussion?

>>19090813
>chastising someone else for vanity
>thinking you're better than smart people because it takes them longer to believe in Jesus and they need to be worn down by disappointment instead of coping right from the start
Pick one

>>19090813
>but eventually they get tiresome, just takes intelligent folks longer to realize that the game they're playing is vanity too.

dude, just because someone doesn´t want to worship a god, it doesn´t mean he has vanity, step outside of your bubble and think for yourself

>>19090819
Yes the entire thing, from around when anon said they were divinely inspired and asked why it was so hard for other people to reach the level of gnosis he had gotten from sniffing his own farts

>>19090829
I thought I was doing it in the abstract re-vanity but apologies if not.
>thinking you're better than smart people because it takes them longer to believe in Jesus and they need to be worn down by disappointment instead of coping right from the start
Again, this is why it's obvious you haven't read the Gospel. A fundamental axiom of Christianity is that people who think they are better or more enlightened are by default not.
See >>19090620

>>19090844
>this is why it's obvious you haven't read the Gospel.
Get over yourself JW. I have read the Bible. There's like 256 Christian sects did the other 255 not read it either?

>>19090835
>Yes the entire thing, from around when anon said they were divinely inspired and asked why it was so hard for other people to reach the level of gnosis he had gotten from sniffing his own farts
>>19090770
>>19090567

>>19090852
>>>19090835 (You) #
>>Yes the entire thing, from around when anon said they were divinely inspired and asked why it was so hard for other people to reach the level of gnosis he had gotten from sniffing his own farts
>>>19090770 #
>>>19090567 #
Yeah I can do that too retard. See here for the same answer. Learn how to use 4channel or you won't get credit for this as a missionary assignment.
>>19090851

>>19090851
If you've read it I have nothing left to say.

>>19090858
So you can't convince anyone else to adopt your opinion, but are smoothbrained enough to take it as evidence of how profound you are.

>>19090857
>>19090858

>>19090869
I never said it was an opinion.

>>19090879
Your beliefs are opinions. Unless of course you intend to prove them. But you said yourself they cannot be proven. So by default, opinions.

>>19090898
DNA and Platonic concepts are conscious and inso far as we use the symbolic order to promulgate DNA we sin. In so far as it is mutually beneficial we follow godly governing. In so far as we peomulgate Platonic idead at the expense of DNA we act morally. This works because our self-esteem is inverted at the point of the individual and soldiers are more willing to die than to have someone else die in their stead. The Gospel is the Truth because it teaches this inversions as divine.

>>19090911
Yeah I really liked the part in the Gospels where they discuss the great merit of the Gentile philosophers and the chemical processes of genetic inheritence.