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because it's a word in German

>>19075808
Or is it that 'being-there' is to 'being-here' what 'they' are to 'me'? As in, the 'they' is constituted only of 'I's', so that all 'heres' are contained under the 'there'?

>>19075808
Dasein translates to Existence, which is Dasein's essence. "Being-There" is just an etymological quirk of the kind Heidegger liked to poke at.

>>19075851
But 'existence' also means something like 'out there' or 'standing there'. When I say 'I exist' do I mean something like 'I'm standing here'? But standing 'here' is always rather a 'there'. If I must show where I am it becomes a 'there' which I must designate in relation to something else, or I must point to it or describe it. So 'here' is never describable as a here. If someone were to ask, "Where are you?" and I responded with "Here," then I have not told them 'where I am', but have only said the obvious, which is that there, where I am, is always 'here'. Do I exist 'there'? or do I exist 'here'? Can one exist 'here'? 'There' always points away from 'here'.

>>19075896
Likewise in being 'with' someone. I am never 'there' with someone, unless I am pointing it out to someone who is not with me. So whoever is with me is always 'here' with me. So 'here' has an intimacy which 'there' can never contain. 'There' is always talked 'about', but one does not talk 'about' 'here', since it is the place of intimacy and not theory.

>>19075896
Just read Heidegger

>>19075896
Listen faggot

Exist - existere is latin and has metaphysical baggage, especially when existence is contrasted with essence

Heidegger has a suspicion that the latinization of Greek philosophy is what greatly contributed to nihilism and the forgetting of being.

>>19075808
You've asked this before. Shut up

>>19075808
German native speaker here who is unfamiliar with Heidegger. "Dasein" just means general existence, while "Hier-sein" would be specifically being in this specific place right in this specific moment.

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>>19078611
>Heidegger is a good example of how nothing is left but a number of ridiculous photographs and a number of even more ridiculous writings. Heidegger was a philosophical market crier who only brought stolen goods to the market, everything of Heidegger's is second-hand, he was and is the prototype of the re-thinker, who lacked everything, but truly everything, for independent thinking. Heidegger's method consisted in the most unscrupulous turning of other people's great ideas into small ideas of his own, that is a fact. Heidegger has so reduced everything great that it has become German-compatible, you understand: German-compatible, Reger said. Heidegger is the petit bourgeois of German philosophy, the man who has placed on German philosophy his kitschy night-cap, that kitschy black night-cap which Heidegger always wore, on all occasions. Heidegger is the carpet-slipper and night-cap philosopher of the Germans, nothing else. I don't know why, Reger said yesterday, whenever I think of Stifter I also think of Heidegger and the other way about. Surely it is no accident, Reger said, that Heidegger just as Stifter has always been popular, and is still popular, mainly with those tense women, and just as those fussy do-gooding nuns and those fussy do-gooding nurses devour Stifter as their fovourite dish, in a manner of speaking, so they also devour Heidegger. Heidegger to this day is the favourite philosopher of German womanhood. Heidegger is the women's philosopher the specially suitable luncheon philosopher straight from the scholars' frying pan. When you come to a petit-bourgeois or even an aristocratic-petit-bourgeois party, you are very often served Heidegger even before the hors-d'oeuvre, you have not even taken off your overcoat and already you are being offered a piece of Heidegger, you have not even sat down and already the lady of the house has brought Heidegger in with the sherry on a silver salver. Heidegger is invariably a well-cooked German philosophy which may be served anywhere and at any time, Reger said, in any household. I do not know of any philosopher today who has been more degraded, Reger said. Anyway, Heidegger is finished as far as philosophy is concerned, whereas ten years ago he was still the great thinker, he now, as it were, only haunts pseudo-intellectual households and pseudo-intellectual parties, adding an artificial mendaciousness to their entirely natural one. Like Stifter, Heidegger is a tasteless and readily digestible reader's pudding for the mediocre German mind.

>>19075808


«DASEIN» IS THE GERMAN TERM THAT APPROXIMATES THE MEANING OF SPANISH: «ESTAR»; THE ESSENCE OF ESTAR IS EXISTENCE; TO EXIST ENTAILS ONTIC EXTERIORIZATION —ID EST: ACTION—, THEREFORE A «BEING THERE»; «BEING HERE» WOULD MAKE NO SENSE.

>>19078624
literal who? I'm sorry that this nigga will never be as relevant to philosophy as heidegger

>>19075808
'There' is more abstract and it is a principle that there will always be a 'there'. Not so with a 'here', which automatically centres how he's trying to define human being too much.

Also Dasein was a word in German meaning the individual existence rather than existence or being on a whole, which have their own words in German, way before Heidegger used it.

Dasein is always projecting itself it is in a mode of ex-stasis and thus being-there is correct.

>>19075808
the term comes from ontology (worldly) which concerns itself with this life and not the afterlife
it stands in contrast with metaphysics (clerical)

>>19078624
based

Did Heidegger believe in something eternal or was a nihilist? Remember either you believe in forms, some substrate, God etc etc or you are a nihilist, there is no third option.

So was there anything beyond becoming for Heidegger?

>>19079254
Are you fucking retarded?

>>19079420
Heidegger was definitely not a nihilist and believed in a God and absolute truth completely. But being Heidegger he probably believes them in a way a traditionally minded person would not like, with his emphasis on the poetic and all that. Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_os-ysZJM_I

>>19079473
>jonathan bowden
damn what hasn't he done a talk on?