/lit/ - Literature

>>19029285
Yes.

>>19029285
Congratulations, OP, you have figured out the first step to reading good books.

>>19029295
>>19029303
wtf I love lit now

>why engage with a living breathing culture yourself can be a part of when you could content yourself with an unchanging past you can never add to
Same with women really. Real girls are messy and smelly and can cheat on you. Better to stick to 2d women, no chance of any complications there

>>19029285
>Western Canon™ Classics™ chosen for you by the finest jewish academics
If the classics were any good we wouldn't end up where we are, in a rotting carcass of a shorted lived empire suffocated by its own liberal filth.

>>19029323
you're welcome (to /lit/ i mean, I welcome you)

>>19029285
This is just a lazy mindset. Reading contemporary literature should be done to name various objects ultimately made from STARDUST(tm) after. Literary innovations, such as using some literary technique in a vacuum, without any connection to the canon, is going to short circuit the patriarchy and cishuytenormietivity.

>>19029327
>Better to stick to 2d women, no chance of any complications there
no women > 2d women > IRL women

women of any kind are never worth the hassle

>>19029285
some people like current art and some like the classics

>>19029327
As if any modern authors write living breathing culture and aren't just corporate sock puppets writing for a paycheck.

>>19029350
Your waifu a pure anon. She loves you for who you are

>>19029364
Adolf Hitler does love me anon. He loves all Germanic boys and girls.

>>19029285
How do you know a classic is going to be good? Cause Harold Bloom told you to like? Such a docile little pseud.

>>19029350
How would you know if you don’t read them?

>>19029408
Why would I read something that takes transexualism or CRT seriously?

>>19029408
>Academics spouting some SJW shit
I sleep
>Academics say a book is good
REAL FUCKING SHIT

>>19029408
In fact why would I read something that takes feminism or liberalism seriously?

Atta came out in the last ten years and it's classic tier. You people are just illiterate and coping.

>>19029408
If a classic has a lasted as long as it has and still been remembered there must be some value to it that allows it to persist.

I will read anyone who is RP'd on the JQ.

>>19029418
Who says all contemporary literature does that?
>>19029424
Nice strawman.

The truth is that you pseuds have no idea what you’re talking about. You’ve never engaged with contemporary literature besides the YA shit and Instagram poetry you seethe about.

>>19029439
So you have without exception liked every classic you’ve ever read? And you still think that you decide your own opinions?

>>19029439
Very few classics have lasted because of popular acclaim. Maybe Jane Austen, Dickens and Shakespeare. The rest are propped up by academics, especially poetry. No way Keats would still be in print based on sales to the public alone

>>19029327
>engage with a living breathing culture
modern culture is not worth engaging with. I'd be a worse, less virtuous human having done so.

>>19029523

why do poltrannies project their tucker carlson tier boogiemen on everything

>>19029285
Sheep want to be ”in touch” with the age/generation they live in - narcissism

>>19029562
Isn't it more narcissistic to engage, in a solipsist way, only with a closed, sterile system, in which you can never be wrong or criticised?
Engaging with contemporary culture opens the possibility of contributing to it yourself; having your own writing or ideas criticised or praised; influencing others and allowing yourself to be influenced; and most of all, making mistakes and learning from them, developing your own tastes.

>>19029686
Classics are the opposite of narcissism because you’re trying to understand a tradition and a context that is historically distant to your own position - the relationship between reader and text is fraught with negativity, gaps and failed attempts to understand

Contemporary culture just consists of hype-loops that feed themselves and bask in pure ”presence” (that’s just like me!)

>>19029285
Because I'm not a pseud, just because something has been around for a long time doesn't mean it's good. The amount of "classics" that are worth reading isn't actually very much. Most of the shit that's worth reading I've already read. Whenever I pick out a book it tends to be pretty good, otherwise it probably wouldn't fucking interest me. This "only read the classics" is some autistic pseud shit and it's very cringe. No wonder this site is full of socially inept retarded incels.

>>19029327
This but unitonically

>>19029285
Unironically my policy.

>>19029285
Classics are often not very good either.

>>19029285
how am I supposed to manage fresh innovative writing, if I dont know what the most up to date styles are?
I cant push boundaries if I dont know what the boundaries are at the moment?

>>19029285
totally dude
and why listen to relevant, innovative music, when you could listen exclusively to good old fashioned rock n roll, am I right, dads?

The classics suffocate themselves with their formality. The prose is flashy, but it is mostly form over substance. These people were BORING people. They lived in BORING times. We live in a time where we are facing down NWO one world government with constant surveillance and AI to boot. Do you think Socrates could have imagined this shit?

It's time to throw the classics out the window.

>>19031406
I wonder what the great epic about our day will be. Has it been written yet? What book now will be studies 1000 years from now?

>>19029285
the classics are alien and boring. i have a rule of not reading anything older than 1914

>>19031911
to be clear this is only for fiction

>>19031406
>These people were BORING people. They lived in BORING times
what the absolute shit are you talking about you single digit iq braindead subhuman cockroach slave cunt
get the fuck off my site no get the fuck off my planet
this is the most ignorant thing i have ever heard in my entire life you piece of fetal abortion
all we have today is MUH CONSOOMERISM and THAT'S what you consider exciting?
how fucking dare you insult people of the past like that
you aren't worth the dogshit that hobos step on you ruined cavernous pussy mongrel

>>19031406
Please kill yourself.

>>19029327
I’d say you could actually interact far better with classical and more prestigious authors far more than you could ever even dream of “interacting” with a modern shitty le artsy indie author by crapping up some email to shit in their direction.
For example, researching Edgar Allan Poe, his upbringing, his family, etc. made me appreciate his writing so much more and start developing a love for it. You could visit a museum about him, see where his old home was and see how his surroundings were shown in his poetry.
Compare this educating, whimsical trip back to the past to writing some modern contemporary shit author wearing a beanie and drinking 3 Starbucks onions lattes at the same time. Tell him you love his works, what would he say? Probably “Like, cool dude” or “Did you buy my latest one yet?”. No chance in hell to learn about his past, present, and future and how they affect his works. Maybe you could rummage through his trash cans for any clues pertaining to his life.
You can genuinely interact with older, classical writers from a bygone past far more than you could ever attempt to interact with modern shitster Twitter meme authors.

>>19029285
You're right, OP. The only contemporary work worth reading is "Anon's Collected Taliban Poetry".
These guys are already legendary I've heard.

>Why would you waste your time reading contemporary books that you have no idea if they're any good or not when there are a seemingly endless amount of classics that you have not read.

How do you think the classics were discovered? People read them. They were all once contemporary books. Only way to find the gems is to shovel through the trash. Every now and then you'll find an actually groundbreaking novel like Infinite Jest or Call of the Crocodile. It's trial and error and all generations of readers had to do this.

>>19030864
>defines himself entirely by the standards of his regurgitated shitty Sci-fi book self published on amazon peers
>I want to be independent and boundary pushing
Clownwriting.

>>19031966
Lol butthurt

>>19030870
Yep WAP is so innovative.

I'd propose that the reason classics aren't that enjoyable to many is because the stories have been told and retold so many times and reskinned beyond recognition, that by the time you finally read the original, you already know the tale. It's like you just read this story last week.

>>19029285
because prose ages as language advances and half the classics are a slog as a result
the other half are translated works and almost always have something lost in translation

>>19031980
Man it's weird seeing the Ulysses Pseud mindset in regards to other authors

>>19029332
I second it

>>19029285
it's sad to see how prevalent the boomer mindset is here

>>19032756
strawman
all I'm saying is that if someone listens exclusively to dad rock nobody who knows anything about music will respect their opinion at all

>>19029285
Why would you waste your time reading classic books that you have no idea if they're any good or not when there are a seemingly endless amount of new books that you have not read?

>>19029523
You're engaging with modern culture right now

>>19029285
Whateva, just train your mindset to filter the areté in both sides

>>19031980
You are proving his point. What you describe is a passive, one way interaction, in which you contribute nothing and a merely a consumer rather than an active participant in a live exchange
'Engaging' does not mean memorising pointless facts about your favourite writer in the hope of understanding him better, it mean's contributing, writing yourself, influencing and being influenced in a genuine interaction. Edgar Allen Poe is a 2d girl who will never give you a real blowjob