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What are the ramifications of popular culture sort of "drying out"? IT being stuck in endless loop of increasingly derivative remakes, reruns, sequels, prequels, repeating same template increasingly in past 10-20 years?
I know this is less relevant for literature than it is for other mediiums, and I know that culture has always been derivative to ane xtent, but I think we ca all agree it's becoming more and more noticeable. I'm curious what're opinions on it here.

>> No.18981707

I think it has to do with big companies focusing on making money rather then focusing on trying to create new great art/entertainment/culture etc. Its a lot cheaper and safer to remake something old that worked then it is to try and make something new. This happens especially with movies and video games.

>> No.18981718

The 70s-90s period was a bit of a blip between different models of the studio system. The old is dead and jew not yet born, myriad forms blah blah.
Video games were always repetitive trash, best game ever is a VII

>> No.18981721

I think it’s more than a little funny that people are still asking about implications, presumably in the long term, regarding this or that recent development. The obvious worst case implication is that the end of the world is coming, but it’s already come. You’re living at the end of time. The only question you really need to ask yourself is if it’s worth it living through it, and if so how.

>> No.18981771

Popular culture has always been like this. You're just old enough to notice it now that they're remaking stuff from your lifetime. I learned recently that most Looney Tunes characters are rip-offs of popular comedians from the 40's. But as a kid I assumed the writers were creative geniuses.
We're also inundated with more media these days, and therefore more jaded. I grew up with like 5 TV stations, and only one of them was good.

>> No.18981798

>>18981663
[]: It's fine. Nothing has changed. Perhaps investors aren t interested in taking risks on new ip s. The real problèm then is the concept of ip itself because it bottlenecks the apecta reiteration which would otherwise be revolutionary and fulfilling. i m o NE-way

>> No.18981805

>>18981771

Sure but even media based off of derivatives but a lot of effort in stories and whatnot, even if reliant on tropes

Everything in pop culture, from movies to tv to music, feels standard and recycled

>> No.18981830

>>18981663
It's because nobody with money wants to take any risks making big kprojects and artists are very fragile financially and politicized now. Art has always gone through waning and waxing cycles like this in times of shit
If you are worried that we as a species are running out of "ideas" in media as a whole, no. Not even close. There are tons of settings, tropes left unexplored because Hollywood is a money grubbing malignant tumor who wants to pump out the same damn action movies using the same damn form as the last.
>.t aesthetician
There is also a decline in internet-based culture because of the assimilation of the internet. No more small communities

>> No.18981977

Tbh, I think it has something to do with technological "singularity", such that it exists right now in the form of smartphones, the internet, etc...
Art is more readily accessible than ever via technology.
I took an art history class and noticed that shortly after the development of the camera, all stylistic advancement in the world of painting and sculpture, art to represent the visual, evaporated in favor of aesthetically lazy art made for the sake of "statements", dadaism, Warhol, etc.
This is no doubt because the camera renders the painter and the sculpter's ability to reproduce reality with stylistic flare, through mediums which require years for the completion of a work, essentially and unfortunately redundant when the camera can do their work in seconds.
With a few keystrokes you can access essentially the entire known western and a great deal of nonwestern canons of visual arts, literature, and music. On top of this we have thousands upon thousands of talented artist, and not so talented ones, uploading their work all over the internet. Pop music and videogames seem to be the immanent realms of artistic expression and patronage today, and obviously there is a lot of garbage there: but in a way that's how it's always been. Only the "good stuff" is ultimately remembered. Given time, art that is uninteresting is phased out of the canon no matter how lowly or how "high society" the artist (most if not all pop music will be forgotten like most Roman lyrical poetry).
I quite like Ridley Scott's recent sci-fi films, Prometheus, Alien Covenant, and the show Raised By Wolves which he contributed to ... he aims to deal specifically with modern infertility of imagination, usually through direct infertility metaphors: specifically infertile characters, women with infertile wombs, androids, and so forth, reproducing through technological means. Even the concept of androids themselves are a sort of evolutionary impulse: man creating children with his intellect and hands, rather than with the womb.
He deals with concepts like AI, nanotechnology, artificial wombs, and other technological singularity concepts to explore technology as means to advance imagination, rather than to advance complacency.
He's just one example.
I think you can find originality out there, you just need to know where to look.

>> No.18982000

>>18981663
Think of it as a massive opportunity.
By being just a little bit original and talented you can stand out from the crowd and be hailed as a genius. Because let's be honest, compared to the midwits who create "Netflix Original" type stuff everyone on this board is fucking Shakespeare.

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>>18981663
>What are the ramifications of popular culture sort of "drying out"?
The fostering of complacency, and/or pusillanimity.

The idea(l) comprises its concepts, and surprises its conceptions; the importance of newness consists in emergency of originality, the artistic realization of which requires profound effort; it is a problem of underestimating, and/or of perverting, the supernovel creative potential of the soul into materialistic superbia, rather than sublimating it through martialistic humility.