/lit/ - Literature

>>18962487
Mein Kampf of course.
A true classic

>>18962487
Is it really illegal to download a series of letters in bongland

on the jews and their lies

>>18962487
KEK based, Dickens.
>>18962501
He probably did something else and was caught with that as a bait by the police.

>>18962487
Wouldn't reading the classics make him more racist?

>A former student who downloaded almost 70,000 white supremacist documents and bomb-making instructions has avoided a prison sentence “by the skin of his teeth” after being told to read classic literature by Dickens, Austen, Shakespeare and Hardy.

>After making John promise not to research any more rightwing material, the judge continued: “Have you read Dickens? Austen? Start with Pride and Prejudice and Dickens’ A Tale of Two Cities. Shakespeare’s Twelfth Night. Think about Hardy. Think about Trollope.

>>18962487
“Good show! We’ll make a Tory of you yet, lad!”

>he told John: “You are a lonely individual with few if any true friends.” He said John was “highly susceptible” to recruitment by others, but he was “not of the view that harm was likely to have been caused”.
>after making John promise not to research any more rightwing material, the judge continued: “Have you read Pound? Celine? Start with Canto XLV and Celine's Journey to the End of the Night. Shakespeare’s The Merchant of Venice. Think about T.S Eliot. Think about Yeats.

>>18962501
Yes.
> He was arrested in January 2020, and later charged with offences under the Terrorism Act, including possessing documents on combat, homemade weapons and explosives.
Although, to be fair, he did have *a lot*.
> 67,788 documents
Still shouldn't be a crime, as there is no Mens Rea.

>>18962516
>anon: Racism didn’t exist till the twentieth century
>also anon: The classics make you racist

>>18962525
>reading women
more crual than capital punishment

>>18962531
>Not reading right wing material
>Suggest pound and Celine
Lmao pseud judge

>>18962525
>Read boomer lit so you don't want to kill niggers anymore

No Conrad?

>>18962516
They really shouldn't, unless you're a gargantuan retard.

>>18962487
I respect this judge's belief in the educating and moderating power of classic literature. It's quite funny

>>18962531
lmao

>>18962487
Unironically picrel. He should learn to hide his thoughts and intentions.

>>18962487
Protocols of the Elders of Zion

>>18962516
Yeah retard because racists are notoriously well-read

>>18962598
Yes.

>>18962545
>>18962563
>>18962598
I'm pretty sure he's joking about the effort to "decolonize" the classics since it's all dead white men. Or he could just be reading Aristotle's Politics more closely than some.

Racist here, I already like Shakespeare and Hardy. Austen and Dickens aren't my bag though. I'd rather have the Bronte sisters and Zola as replacements.

>>18962614
no but they sometimes pretend to be

>>18962487
Perks of living in a white country I guess.

I downloaded a lot of anti semitic literature from the 19th century (for research), the anarchist's cookbook and 3d printed gun files am I on a list for this?

>not being a subtle racist and already reading the classics

>>18962598
Well, most of the classic authors are white men who often were racist themselves, also they’re European and reading them would only make him nostalgic, since he was already a racist, of a continent than no longer exist thanks to brown people. don't racist readers mostly read classics?

>>18962531
Lmfao based judge

>>18962540
>>18962511
All of it is easily accessible to anyone. Has to be something else that isn't a crime but they needed an excuse.

>>18962540
>possessing documents on combat, homemade weapons and explosives.
Well that's a bit different. Still an overstep of the state but it was just ideological material

>>18962634
go back

>>18962678
>Well that's a bit different
Not really. It's definitely freely available and shitty stuff.

Being British in the modern age is fucking awful.

>>18962682
Having instructions to build bombs is certainly different than reading Mein Kampf or whatever. I'm not defending the UKs tyrannical approach though it looks like they didn't actually convict him

How's it going my fellow modern humans
Are you enjoying your lives

>>18962628
>England
>White
Pick one.

>>18962707
I pick England

>>18962525
This has to be a joke?

>>18962682
>>18962672
Ease of accessibility doesn't matter at all. If a text is put under a schedule and you possess it then you are fucked, that's all. There doesn't need to be anything else.

>>18962694
Meh, spend 10 minutes on /k/ and someone will post a link to the Dokument which is like 80 gigabytes of text documents on how to build various stuff, including bombs. It also includes other stuff like survival shit and how to build knives, drugs, and political stuff. Most of it is useless unless you have connections to people who can supply you chemicals. There are explosives professionals in honest society slaving away at a legitimate job. If someone were interested in that as a profession, I don't see why the information should be illegal unless you're living under tyranny.

Durant's Story of Civilization, Plato, Eckhart, Boehme, Meditations on the Tarot, Plotonius, and the Bible.

>>18962730
>Meh, spend 10 minutes on /k/ and someone will post a link to the Dokument which is like 80 gigabytes of text documents on how to build various stuff
Yes, people on 4channel do not obey the Law. If you live in a Commonwealth country, just posting "kys" is likely to be able to land you into prison for up to a decade.

>>18962752
How is kys illegal?

>>18962714
You didn't get to pick.

>>18962672
He was probably being loud about it, I think it is ok to download shit and check it out. But he maybe he was trying to gather people or something. The police usually doesn't care if you are doing random shit. I used to check out those weird zines teaching you how to make random shit, but it was not like I tried to contact other people and make use of that knowledge.

The UK always blows my mind with how arbitrary and authoritarian its laws are. Several Commonwealth countries are as bad or worse too. Whenever I hear about a judgement out of the UK, the judge always seems like he's getting off on using his position to jerk someone around and dab on them. That's not what a judge's role is.

Fucking weird shit. How could one of the lands responsible for so many modern concepts of the rule of law, habeas corpus, mens rea, etc., be so medieval in its legal practice? You aren't Solomon boredly making ad hoc moral decisions, you are a public servant.

It's always gay shit like this too. "Heh kid I'll let you off on a lighter sentence if you say 2+2=I love BLM and REALLY mean it."

>>18962678
He clearly mass-downloaded torrents or something and some of the torrents included old chestnuts like Anarchist's Cookbook. This shit would never fly in a US court where the law has a culture of respecting plausible deniability rather than "gotcha!" technicalities.

>>18962487
I am sort of paranoid about this, but I figured out the solution. You see, I am staunchly anti-communist but there is a very high chance that the communists take over America soon. As a result, I'll sometimes spam pro-Marxist stuff in threads. That way, if the communists succeed I have proof I was on their side. At the same time, the fascists might win when the communists inevitably collapse, or they might beat the communists the first time around. To prepare for that, I have watched lots of Hyperborea memes and occasionally lurk /pol/. The combo of this should prove I am sympathetic to fascists, and thus I will not be killed even though I am not white. Of course, I still might be attacked by liberals if the communist revolution and fascist takeover never happen, but considering my voting pattern is literally "milquetoast Democrat", I should be able to go with "it's just edgy XD" defense. On the other hand, if the Republicans take over, I can point to my YouTube comments which were critical of Joe Biden as proof I am not a Democrat. On yet the OTHER hand, what if China wins? In that case I can point to my studies of the Chinese language and the fact that I like Chinese history as proof I am not a threat to them. This does expose me if the American government decides to go after people who study Chinese as potential traitors, but I'll go with the "I hate the CCP, I just love the culture and history" defense (which is true).

This whole thing is sort of stressful, but what can you do? I don't want to be killed in a gulag by AOC/Sanders/leftypol fans, sent to a death camp by MAGAtards, kicked out of society by the liberals, or reeducated by some braindead Maoist. I have to account for all of these possibilities and defend myself.

>>18962835
>there is a very high chance that the communists take over America soon
stopped reading at this instant

uhhh why do you go to jail for books in 2021

>>18962765
> 241 (1) Est coupable d’un acte criminel et passible d’un emprisonnement maximal de quatorze ans quiconque, que le suicide s’ensuive ou non, selon le cas:

> a) conseille à une personne de se donner la mort ou l’encourage à se donner la mort;

translation : Is guilty of a criminal act and subject to a sentence of up to 14 years of imprisonment anyone, whether or not suicide ensues, according to the case a) recommends someone to kill themselves or act as such.
This is from the Canadian criminal code but it is a standard article in Commonwealth countries.

>>18962531
>>he told John: “You are a lonely individual with few if any true friends.”
That hit close to home

>>18962929
Have they ever actually charged someone with this for saying kys on the internet? I'm thinking this is more like for that chick who tried to convince her bf to kill himself

>>18962574
you shouldn't need a book to know not to boast about reading terrorist literature

>>18962954
Not for saying kys over the internet, no. There was one case in Quebec City in the 90s, some guy brought his gf to the top of a waterfall to break up with her and told her she should jump, which she did. It is the only one I'm aware of.
The main difference between Britland and the other Commonwealth countries is that while they have essentially the same code, with the same insanely outdated laws, it is much rarer to see them applied.

>>18962752
>tfw 8 out of 10 of my posts include detailed instructions for anon to perform suicide in the most excruciatingly painful ways
V-vegeta, what does the Party say about the years I'm sentenced to?

>>18962997
There is no minimum sentence, so it is left entirely to the discretion of the judge whether or not you actually would see a day of prison at all.

>>18963020
>going for the deadpan explanation humor instead of just saying the line
jump feet first into a woodchipper

>>18962835
>mfw agents of the future New World Order are arranging all my years of 4chan posts like jigsaw puzzle pieces on a gymnasium floor into completely contradictory piles of "Times he professed libertarianism" "Times he professed Nazism" "Times he defended women" "Times he said women aren't human" "Times he pretended to be a woman" "Times he said nigger 5000 times and then posted he wasn't racist 5 minutes later"

>>18962785
Because you fail to observe any ordinary cases and only the extreme gets brought to your attention.

>>18963080
>Boss, we have sifted through all the data of Anon, you know the one
>The one with the neat posting style?
>Yes sir
>With that patrician fetish?
>Yes, yes that one
>The one who is based, and redpilled?
>Exactly that one
>The one who dabs on the tranny jannies?
>Definitely him, sir
>Well what have you found out?
>We have figured out that he's about to commit murder, sir
>Alarming news! Who is the victim?
>Himself, sir

>>18962516
It sure made me
>>18962525
>read classic literature by Dickens
DICKENS WAS AN ANTISEMITE LMAOOOOO
>>18962835
>a very high chance that the communists take over America soon
oh fuck off cunt

>>18963080
>Our artist has drawn this ID according to the data we have at hand
>So that's our man...

>>18962694
>Being convicted to read books.
Just convict me.

today i learned britain doesn't have a law against cruel and unusual punishment

>>18963080
same lol

>>18962846
>>18963192
If you don't see all the Twitter/lefypol sentiment, you're delusional. It's a very dangerous situation.

>>18963361
Less than 5% of American population is on twitter

>>18962487
>reading is illegal in bongland

>>18962487
Ibram Kendi

>>18962691
tell me about it, i had to make a government request to take out mein kampf from the library and could only do so under strict supervision and a after having passed a back ground check and perfoming a personality test to make sure i wasnt 'right wing"

>>18962785
Anarchist's Cookbook is not banned in the uk its legal to purchase

>>18963361
leftypol is none existent, really. twitteroids are just neolibs who suck up to any corporation which gives provides them a new, fake, and inorganic identity
>>18963368
Nonetheless, twitter is the "open" space to get your voice heard and shapes/molds opinions of the university class, i.e., those who will always vote and have a bit (very few) decision making

>>18962598
Virtually all of the great writers up until the second half of the 20th century were quite racist anon.

Hemingway was a notorious antisemite, so was Ezra Pound.
Most big names in science and philosophy were not just racist, but oftenly advocated for eugenics and overt white supremacy.

If you actually were as well read as you imply, you would've noticed how common all of these things were amongst the great names of history.

>>18962525
This is unabashedly based. Please make this the default. Have a test at the end. Close the prisons. Test failure is treated with progressive distal amputations and reiteration of the reading but with other books.

>>18962598

>The FBI paid a white supremacist leader who is connected to a neo-Nazi book publisher over $140,000 to be a confidential informant in the takedown of a neo-Nazi organization. the suspected CI is Joseph Caleb Sutter, 40
Can glowies make up their mind?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9930259/FBI-paid-known-white-supremacist-associated-neo-Nazi-book-publisher-140-000-informant.html

>>18962545
yes, it will reedify the conglomeration of thought that formulated itself into "racism" in the 20th century sense of the term, why do you ask?

>>18962835
>there is a very high chance that the communists take over America soon.
Stopped reading here

>>18962835
>there is a very high chance that the communists take over America soon.
As a communist, I continued reading there.

>For the crime of turning down this beautiful trans woman...
>(in a deep baritone) That's right honey
>...I sentence you to read the collected works of Rupi Kaur
>Noooo *crying*
>You will follow her on Instagram and like every post
>No, please, please Your Honor
>And you will only be allowed to wear t-shirts with her poetry on them
>Can I not wear t-shirts?
>No
>AAAAAAAA NOO NOOOOOO NOOOO
>no! he grabbed the documents!
>quick, quick! he's bleeding out
>he's dead!
>what a paper cut...

>>18962765
In California if a naked man runs out on to a football field and a stadium full of people encourage him, they are all, the whole stadium, now sex offenders and could be put on the offender registry for life. Sex offenders can't live within 2000 feet of a park or a school. Which means nowhere in any city or suburb in California. (They created micro parks every so often just to be sure.) Public urination is also a sex crime which might get you life in the registry.

>>18962487
what's with boomers who think that everyone who is a "classic" writer is instantaneously supportive of whatever social policies they support? What a generation of complete retards. I cannot imagine people more fond of themselves.

>the absolute state of Britsharia
Failed state.

>>18962846
>>18963192
>>18963785
>>18963825
Take a look at reality. Leftism is destroying the West.

>>18964277
unless the streaker is LGBT I imagine

>>18964364
Eh, there's different shades of leftism. Something like the Nordic countries isn't a problem (in fact if they brought that to the States I'd like it). Stuff like the violent fantasies of Communist Revolution like you see on Twitter and on sites like 4chan and leftypol need to be cracked down on though, and I doubt they will be. It is very dangerous, and after climate change, it is the second-greatest threat to the West.

>>18963401
Wouldn't it've been easier to just buy it?

>>18964398
What's more dangerous than twitter leftists are the media stoking the flames of a racewar.

>>18962487
Does Mein Kampf count as "classic literature"? It should.

>>18962954
Ran a quick search for Canada. Most of the cases relate to medically-assisted suicide. Here are the fun ones I found:

R c Morin, 2014 QCCQ 1609 (original in French, but here's the English link: https://canlii.ca/t/hn8z6))
Defendant insulted the victim and told her to kill herself after seeing some of the rude things she said about him.

R v Elton, 2012 BCSC 315 (https://canlii.ca/t/fqcqd)), appeal dismissed 2016 BCCA 440 (https://canlii.ca/t/gvjpb))
Guilty of second degree murder. Husband and wife had a suicide pact. Wife told husband that it was time, so he took the dog out for one last walk. When he came back, she was passed out on the couch. He popped half a bottle of Valium and waited. Then he strangled her and stabbed her with a bayonet because she didn't seem that close to death. He called a friend to pick up the dog, and someone called the cops. He lived but she didn't.

R c Pelletier, 20014 CanLII 16637 (https://canlii.ca/t/1h4qc))
In French, and I didn't read closely. Looks like someone was sick or dying and was told to commit suicide. This is a sentencing decision, as the defendant pleaded guilty. There's a bunch of jurisprudence listed in this one too, but a lot of it is about physician-assisted suicide.

R c Gervais, 2000 CanLII 17527 (https://canlii.ca/t/1kcn1))
Acquittal. Single mom with depressed teenaged daughter. Some witnesses said she counselled suicide and/or had a suicide pact. Judge found reasonable doubt. Also in French, and as before, I didn't read closely. My French is not superb.

R v JA, 2013 NUCJ 7 (https://canlii.ca/t/fxld4))
This one's crazy. Domestic abuse, sexual assault, and counselling suicide.
>At some point, J.A. accused her of cheating on him and forced his hand inside her vagina. She told him to stop but instead he forced his whole fist inside her. M.S. said it was the worst pain she had ever felt and described it as “going to the bone”. After he removed his hand, he began punching her repeatedly in the vagina. A week later she was still taking pain medication. The RCMP indicated that M.S. appeared to suffer emotional trauma from this incident because she kept returning to it a number of times in her statement to the police and she focused a lot on how much it hurt her.
>[18] In J.A.’s statement to the police, he admitted to forcing at least a portion of his hand inside her and said that she needed to feel it inside her vagina --- to feel what it was like when she cheated on him. He went on to say he was tapping her vagina because he wanted to shock her so that she would listen to him.

This is just after skimming the first 50 decisions I found on CanLII. There are a lot more.

>>18962598
>racists are notoriously well-read
This but unironically

>>18962765
The UK's Communication Act of 2003 defines "Sending a malicious communication using social media" or anything that is "intended to alarm or distress somebody" as a criminal offence. The reality is that freedom of speech is not enforced by law in the UK, in so far that officials employ mental gymnastics to create some sort of distinction that 'free speech does not include hate speech'.

So yes, a message like 'kys' or anything arbitrarily deemed to be 'psychologically distressing' can result in a fine or you losing your freedom in the UK. This of course includes a man who trained his dog to imitate the Hitler salute when you said 'sieg heil' as well as about 11 or 12 Norf fc types who tweeted racist things about the black England players who missed their penalties and have subsequently been arrested

>>18964688
>anything that is "intended to alarm or distress somebody" as a criminal offence.
So if a feminazi says "kill all men" she can go to jail?

>>18964745
In theory yes, but in reality the law tends to only sees real-world cases when the message in question violates some sacrosanct social issue (racial attitudes, mental health/depression etc.).

>>18962525
How would reading a Tale Of Two Cities not make you hate left-wingers even more than you already do?

>>18963407
lol, a separate guy still got done for downloading the anarchist cookbook here.
>>18962785
It's fucking ridiculous over here. A woman from my town got a 9 month sentence for sharing a photo of Jon Venables, the 10 y/o that bludgeoned and sodomized a toddler to death. He keeps getting given new identities because he keeps blowing cover by posting pictures of himself doing lines on social media as well as downloading cheese pizza. Like 20 different people have been arrested for sharing modern day photos of him, there's like a global court order banning it for whatever reason. shits cost the taxpayer tens of millions. It's fucking infuriating. Just look at how lenient they treat convicted paedophiles in this country, the problem is so bad that there are hundreds of civvie vigilante squads that are constantly using entrapment to get nonces taken off the street for trying to rape 9 year olds, and then repeating the process when they get released a few weeks later. It's fucking insane.

Type in "nonce sting" on youtube or bitchute if you want to see, they're pretty entertaining if nothing else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHOnTDAPSs0&list=PLk6RPKKpT4NwC1ZwiWpDBV2lc-_Bprh1g

>>18964972
>Jon Venables
I looked into this a bit and it's absolutely crazy. Is the guy the son of someone important? If not why are they so fanatic about protecting him?

>>18962487
Start with the greeks (Aristotle).

>>18964838
You mean when feminazis celebrate that white men kill themselves on world suicide awareness day? that was a thing

>>18962516
Despite what buzzfeed would tell you, no.

>>18962525
Based judge leading neanderthal hitler worshiper to becoming a refined oxbridge toff-supremacist instead

>>18962530

>>18962835
never change anon

Yeah I don't get it. I'm racist and I read exclusively classical literature from pre 1900.

>>18962516
Sounfs like they need to rewrite the classics then, suprising how a word here and there can change the meaning.

>>18964398
>Muh climate change
Dropped

>>18962714
based

>>18966739
Maybe the judge was trying to tell him that he didn't need to download weird extremist literature to be racist

>>18964972
not gonna bother looking into this but sounds like a case of clown world

>>18966883
Teaching him how to be optical.

>>18964972
>downloading cheese pizza
holy shit, you don't have to buy it from Pizza hut

>>18964398
>shades of leftism
>Nordic countries
I hear a lot of people say the nordic model isn't really that left wing

>>18962924
Jews.

>>18962546
George Eliot was a woman

>>18966939
They're literally technocratic centrist capitalists.

>>18962835
Communism is an obsolete ideology. The vegan retards larping as commies only mobilize to attack the enemies of Jews. The ideology with total hegemony over the Anglosphere is neoliberal capitalism. The people you imagine are commies serve this system, which is already in total power. The Chinese will only be mobilized against America if we have a fascist revolution.

In other news, you're a nitwit.

>>18966920
this nigga buys pizza ppfffhhh

>>18962487
Are there any books that would make someone J-woke reverse their stance? I don't see that anything could deboonk the JQ, but give me your best shot and I'll read them.

>>18967043
Yeah, a woman who wrote under a man's pseudonym because she thought women were retards and she didn't want to be associated with them. Ugly as fuck as well apparently, she's basically perfect

>>18965007
this, Aristotle is a pan-hellenic, ethno-nationalist who supported slavery.
For Classics in Literature, one can read Jules Vernes' books since they're very racially aware.

bump

>>18964357
>sharia punishes people by sentencing them to read books
???

>>18964483
For politics sure, for "general" literature? Nah

>>18964972
>he keeps blowing cover by posting pictures of himself doing lines on social media as well as downloading cheese pizza.
wtf seriously?

>>18964972
Here I'll post it for you.

>white supremecist
>here read more books by white people, that'll help you stop being retarded
don't know if the judge or the kid is more idiotic.

>>18968766
>all white people are white supremecist (sic)
???

>>18962540
it's one thing to have mein kampf and another to have a whole fucking hard drive of that shit including bomb manuals.
Bongland is unironically based in this case. People rightfully love to shit on European states for not acting soon enough against terrorist attacks from islamists and nazis, but this time they actually pulled through and prevented what could have been a mass bombing. And it being "free information" only means that some basement dwellers possess it and post it on 4chan when somebody asks for it. I bet you can also find child porn if you lurk hard enough, but that doesn't make it ok.

>>18968898
Very gay mindset

>>18962487
Look at his teeth

>>18968898
no one with bomb manuals actually bomb things. it's just like people on /sig/ giving manuals on how to grow potatoes in weird ways to one another, it's just larping. i guess it's different with muslims, even then, i'm guessing only ~10% of muslims who have bomb manuals actually make bombs

>>18963080
>feds are looking at all my posts
>give up half way through
>"It's just all information on defunct train lines and theatrical movements, anon is probably real autist"
>have to write strongly worded letter to the feds so they can understand the dangerous political machinations involved with setting up a rail line or vaudeville act
Thanks for reminding me, anon. I think they keep trying to pawn me off to the army because they know officers have to read Lawrence of Arabia there.

>>18968898
Please download a bomb-making manual and die in an explosion.

>>18969360
Allahu Akbar, brother.

>>18969044
yes, he is british anon.

>>18964889
Shhhhhh

>>18962531
>tfw i got radicalized when i had a lot of friends and lost them along the way
heh, stupid judge. you dont know me

>>18963080

>>18962835
based
i do the same but with tech corporations

>>18962531
For a second I thought this was the legit quote and I almost went to imaginary jail for calling an imaginary judge a total pseud in open court.

>>18969970
that guy is definitely a regular himself

>>18962598
Tolkien was racist against Mongolians. Are you telling me Tolkien was Wong?

>>18964990
nah it's literally just because it was such a shocking crime at the time that stirred such anger in the public, that the authorities were sure if he was ever known to the public the lynch mobs would be after him.
the more time goes on the less it's necessarily about rage and indignation and more the notoriety, and the clout that you could get from killing him. the other one involved in the crime along with venables (forgot his name) kept his head down in juvie and kept his head down after release too, and to all intents and purposes was very level headed about it, although some people think he might be a psycho. Venables is just fucking stupid beyond belief.

>>18962835
Let me give you some sanity as someone who chatted with a glowie and I've been on 8pol long enough to give you some closure

I assume you're a normie so I'll be gentle

>Commies taking over
Its been a dead ideology since the USSR died.

Officially 'Le Evil China' is the big threat but its just a distraction. No they are not a threat so long as we don't poke them.
China (through Xi) are owned by the global elites same as us. Xi removed all the loyal commies from his inner circle. China hasn't been communist in a long time, maybe even before Xi (I don't care enough to look it up).

Communism is just repackaged feudalism. Ever since Napoleon introduced true freedomz by ending feudalism, the elites (and everyone who isn't a peasant) have been trying to get it back thru various means.
Old elites liked using poor against the rich (the rich are the gatekeepers of ones society that keep foreign rich out).

Communist revolution in Russia was paid for by New York bankers. Stalin learned this and purged all the people associated with Trotsky and Lenin.

Communism isn't real kid, grow up.
Capatilism serves the same purpose as communism but through consent; putting the peasants back in chains by their own desire to do so.

Yes we are losing freedomz, yes we are becoming a nanny state, yes we will eat ze bugz.
Why? People like you allow it all to happen with no resistance

>>18962835
For opsec reasons, compartmentalizing your online lingo and larping as whatever is good for privacy.
Don't actually believe the things you're worried about.

The white population went down since the 60's, boiling the frog works.
This is how they'll get what they want

>>18962548
That's the joke :/

>>18963547
'Oftenly'

>>18962525
>bro I wanna kill da niggars so bad bro
>no. You shall read classic literature and cleanse your mind
>yo bro I juss wanna kill da niggars like in those vidyo's
>Enough of this! I sentence you to read!

>>18962525
>Dickens
So hate leftists more, also antisemitic.
>Austen
For tradlarping.
>Shakespeare
Muh sojey knees
>Trollope
I thought he was name dropped him to have an exclusive obscure writer only read in England.
Note how all of this is fiction.

>>18967183
I can't think of any. Trash like the book by Sartre would only strengthen the point. I guess the closest would be Leon Bloy, which is even anti-Semitic in its own very peculiar way. It's more about becoming depressed about the question.

>>18970141
>get a job studying online right wing extremism
>get paid to look at memes all day and shitpost to "go undercover"
>occasionally write a paper or go on tv and pretend to be offended
that man hit the jackpot

>>18970794
>It's more about becoming depressed about the question.
It's heartening (or "whitepilling") that the main response they have against the JQ is demoralization. Aside from that, it's mostly denial without any elaboration. I hardly ever see direct grappling or refutation of claims of fascists on jews, and the few cases are laughably badly reasoned.

I want to first respond to all the stuff this thread raises with a parody of Alex Jones I wrote, which also brings up the Jewish Question, to amuse myself — all or 99% factual and verifiable, to the best of my knowledge. This is basically a joke thread to point out the intersection between /pol/ and /lit/, so I’m just responding to it at a 90 degrees angle about stuff more important than “Some young asshole became an alt-right supremacist but repented and changed his ways after the crypto-totalitarian liberal nanny state made him change his ways, now the news can use him as an example of how sad and embarrassing dissenting from multiculturalist neoliberal orthodoxy is.”

I’m just a pseud who does this stuff for fun, here it goes:

>Here’s how it works: George W. Bush was part of a “bloodline” or “dynasty” of sorts that’s part of the ruling class of the world. He was groomed and placed into power. The news and mainstream history and politics is a lie. The 2000 election controversy in Florida (where, in a state of millions of people, there was only a few hundreds vote difference, and the controversy about “hanging chads”, and the recounts, and it went all the way to the Supreme Court with Bush v. Gore (2000)) was vote rigging. Bush’s brother, Jeb, was governor of Florida at the time. Corruption in politics works like this, like when the Mafia has close connections with the local politicians and cops of a town and pays them off to look the other way when it comes to smuggling drugs and organized crime and the like. Mexican drug cartels do the same thing in Mexico.

>So how exactly did the vote rigging happen? Does it matter? Stuffing the ballot boxes, paying off and/or gruesomely threatening election officials and politicians to look the other way, even sexual blackmail maybe, and the like. The details aren’t important.

>Dubya’s dad, OK? George HW Bush. Former director of the CIA and 41st President of the US. Not a retard like Dubya. Sharp. A political dynasty, OK? And HW was a member of the Yale secret society, the Skull and Bones. So was Dubya. So was HW’s father and Dubya’s grandfather, Prescott Bush.

>Prescott Bush, look at this dude, he was a Wall Street executive banker and Senator of Connecticut from 1952 to 1963. Boy oh boy are the Bushes an overpowered family. What did Prescott do with his Wall Street friends? He funded Hitler’s rise to power and profited off of it, off of the Third Reich. Even the fucking Guardian admits this.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

> OK, now you go back to Dubya. In 1979 he created the Arbusto oil company supposedly — he’s a retard, OK, George W. Bush is a reincarnated Neanderthal, so it’s probably more like his handlers created the company, OK? But then he made a deal with someone named Salem bin Laden, who was Osama bin Laden’s brother, and Salem invested a lot of money into this oil company.

>Around this time, what was Osama, who was Salem bin Laden’s brother, doing? He was on the CIA’s payroll as part of something called the “Mujaheedin,” who were Afghani freedom fighters fighting against Soviet occupation.

>Now, Soviet Russia, OK? (((They))) won’t let me talk about this unless it’s anonymously on /pol/ or /lit/, I can’t do it on InfoWars, the Anti-Defamation League would fucking sue me so hard they’d basically rape me in court in the ass with a broken beer bottle — this same Bolshevik Revolution was funded into existence by the Warburgs, a Jewish banking family in like the 1910s or whatever, working with Jacob Schiff, the primary financier of the Russian Revolution, Jacob Schiff of Kuhn Loeb & Co., New York. Jacob Schiff was also a German-born Jewish American banker.

>THIS IS VERIFIABLE HISTORY, FOLKS!

>Now what else did the Warburgs do? Paul Warburg, ethnically Jewish, American investment banker born in Germany — kinda confusing — he helped create the fucking Federal Reserve, folks! He served as Vice Chair of the Federal Reserve. Really. And he was also a partner in Kuhn Loeb & Co.

>Now try not to get confused, guys, because I’m throwing a lot of stuff at you because that’s how my mind works. I’ll get to the point eventually.

> At the time of his death Paul Warburg was a director of the American I.G. Chemical Company! What was this a branch of, where did it come from? It was the representation in America of the I.G. Farben industrial chemical cartel, the same fucking cartel that was so huge in Nazi Germany, OK? And they were using Jewish slave labor in the camps and manufacturing Zyklon B to gas the Jews, supposedly — I dunno, I wasn’t there, some people deny the Holocaust, OK? That’s not my point. At minimum, they were big in Nazi Germany. The Third Reich couldn’t have existed without them.

>So the Warburgs are somehow connected to funding the Bolshevik Revolution, to Nazi Germany, and to creating the Federal Reserve. Paul Warburg, fun fact, also became a director of the Council on Foreign Relations at its founding in 1921.

>Paul Warburg also was supposedly a representative of the Rothschild banking dynasty in England and France — IT’S THE FUCKING JEWS, FOLKS!!! THIS IS AMERICA, AND I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY IT!!! All these greedy Jewish banking parasites, they have such close relationships, they’re there LAUGHING at you for being such a retard — yeah, they call you a Nazi, an antisemite if you call them out, they got the ADL that’ll get on your ass if you make these 100% TRUE HISTORICAL CONNECTIONS!!!

>THE FUCKING JEWS!!!!

>They don’t give a fuck, folks. They’ll bankroll the Soviets, the Nazis, the Americans, everything. They’re trans-national, an international elite. So you might be confused “Why would they have ties to Nazi Germany?” Because they don’t give a FUCKING GODDAMNED SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING OR ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES AND THE FUCKING MONEY THEY CAN MAKE!

>I’m crashing this thread just like I’ve crashed and interrupted political rallies for fun, folks, OK?

>George HW Bush? Member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Remember, Paul Warburg helped create it and was a director of the Council of Foreign Relations at its founding in 1921?

>OK, why did I say all this? Is it all related to George W. Bush exactly? I don’t know, guess I’m just kinda retarded at times. But it’s related to the Bush dynasty. Because Senator Prescott Bush was profiting off of the Third Reich’s rise to power, and Paul Warburg was connected to the Nazi IG Farben crap, and Max Warburg helped fund the Bolshevik Revolution, then these same Soviets, OK? Remember?

>The CIA was funding Osama bin Laden on their Goddamned payroll as part of the Mujaheedin, Afghani freedom fighters, to fight against Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, shortly after his brother, Salem bin Laden, invested into George W. Bush’s Arbusto oil company.

>Now, a few decades later, this retard Neanderthal George W. Bush — HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE SKULL & BONES, FOLKS!!! they’re there doing their creepy Satanic rituals, with a ribbon tied around their dick while laying in a coffin, telling all their sexual exploits to the senior members, Prescott Bush, George HW Bush, George W. Bush — the Yale secret society — it’s part of the fucking ceremony! And supposedly they even have this Native American Geronimo’s skull there and it’s fucking CREEPY! OK?

>So now George W. Bush is President, and supposedly Osama bin Laden did 9/11! Used to justify invading the Middle East for oil reserves — decades after Osama’s brother, Salem bin Laden, invested into Dubya’s Arbusto oil company, and Osama was on the CIA payroll! George HW Bush, he was a CIA director, too. Dubya, a CIA stooge.

>Who was at 9/11? The dancing Israelis recording 9/11 and high-giving each other, arrested shortly afterwards. Found to be Israeli Mossad agents. The Mossad, OK? It’s Israel’s CIA, if you’re already so uninformed you don’t know that. Can’t talk about this on InfoWars, but there it is. Goddamned JEWS EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK! The CIA and Mossad did this crap as an inside job while this fucking ape, George W. Bush, is just there as a figurehead, and it’s to support the project of Greater Israel, fighting Israel’s enemies, and invading the Middle East for oil reserves, then turning the US — the whole Western world, actually — into a totalitarian police surveillance state with the Patriot Act, and pinning it all on Osama bin Laden, formerly on the CIA’s payroll, who didn’t do it, OK? He didn’t do it.

>You know who the Bushes are distantly but verifiably related to? The Windsors, that’s the British royal family.

>Fuck George W. Bush.

But look at this. You know what’s more important than 9/11 possibly being an inside job? You know what’s more important than the barbaric Neo-Nazi style invasion of the Middle East decided on by the 1%?

You know what’s more important than the unconstitutional PATRIOT Act surveilling us all, and which the people would never have decided on and come up with and voted to support by themselves? You know what’s more important than the Abu Ghraib scandal and the torture of Islamic prisoners?

You know what’s more important than the fact that a handful of extremely wealthy families rule the world? The fact that fucking /pol/ incels exist. Excuse me. The fact that tucking White supremacists, chuds, and incels exist for you to make fun of.

I’m sorry. Did you know 1/6? The so-called “insurrection” at the Capitol? Did you hear about the FBI involvement at it? No? Just like you didn’t hear about probable CIA and Mossad involvement in 9/11 on CNN on Fox News? What about WTC7 falling on 9/11 despite not getting hit by an airplane, in a manner which some independent experts think was reminiscent of a controlled demolition? What? I’m wearing a tinfoil hat?

What about Epstein? Did he kill himself? Epstein’s island? Remember that? There’s evidence suggesting Bill Clinton went there. What do you think Bill Clinton was doing there? Did you hear about Epstein being an asset of the CIA and Mossad? No? Epstein was a Jew. What? I’m an antisemite? Maxwell was a Jew, too. Her dad, a Mossad agent. Never heard of that? What about the Rothschilds? One of the richest families in the world. I’m a White supremacist? They hung out with Epstein and Maxwell, too. It was Lady Lynn de Rothschild who introduced Ghislaine Maxwell to the UK’s Prince Andrew. There’s also heavy evidence suggesting Prince Andrew also went to Epstein’s island. What? You think I’m crazy?

https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/ghislaine-maxwell-didnt-introduce-epstein-to-prince-andrew-pal/

You know what’s more important than that? The alt-right. The White supremacists. They’re gonna get you, man! They’re gonna get you just like Islamic terrorists are gonna get you! 9/11 was so scary, oh boy, it was so scary just like 1/6 was. I saw both on the TV. After 9/11 I was so scared of Muslims, then after 1/6 I was so scared of White supremacists, just like the leaders told me to be! I mean, I have a .000000000001% chance of dying either from an Islamic terrorist attack or a White supremacist domestic terror attack, but the TV and the newspapers told me to be afraid of the terrorists, so now I admit and accept it as a huge terror threat. Now I support any measure they’ll bring up to fight the terrorists. I’m a good American citizen. I’m a really good person. Anyone who disagrees with me, they’re evil, abnormal, a potential threat, someone to laugh at and make fun of, pitiful, misinformed, and/or simply a retard. Because I believe CNN.

the UK is a fucking meme

>>18965067
It's only enforced against people the state hates. Considering feminists run the government, it's not a group that they would ever target.

What? The police and security guards stood by and basically allowed the protestors to enter the Capitol on 1/6? There was possible CIA involvement in it? That’s only something crazy that Tucker Carlson said on Fox News. Fuck you for bringing that up, man. How DARE you bring that up? Excuse me? How DARE you?

The news was showing 1/6, how terrible and stupid it was. I mean, it didn’t actually kill a single politician supposedly intended to be a victim of it. In fact, it was 5 people who died during it, almost all protestors themselves. It was 4 of them who were protestors. Three of them died from natural causes: a stroke, a heart attack, and a natural emergency. One, Ashli Babbitt, was shot by cops. The final one was a cop, Brian Sicknick, whom the media sickeningly dramatized the case of and incorrectly claimed he died from being hit on the head by a fire extinguisher, which sounds terrible, right? It’s still sad, but that’s not true. They even admitted it was wrong. But it doesn’t matter, because most people have such a short attention span it struck them in the moment. It made an emotional impact. He got pepper sprayed, then had two strokes the next day and died.

Most of the people at the Capitol were peaceful. It was actually a mostly peaceful protest. Remember BLM and Antifa being mostly peaceful? How they kept telling you “more than 90% of the protests were peaceful”? But the BLM and Antifa riots, which went on for months, caused hundreds of millions dollars worth more of property damage, and were tied to dozens of more deaths. Also, some small business owners had their stores destroyed, looted, attacked, robbed, and insurance didn’t fully cover their damages. They were intimidated and attacked violently even if they didn’t directly do anything wrong.

Excuse me. I’m sorry. But — 1/6 was so much worse! Because the TV told me so, and they DARED to directly attack Congressmen and -women themselves. Oh, wow, it’s so sad! Those people born with a silver spoon in their mouth living in gated neighborhoods were cowering for a day. And the TV said it’s the worst thing that happened, so I looked at it and I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed at White rage. I was embarrassed for America and at these White hicks radicalized by Fox News, InfoWars, QAnon, and the alt-right into believing in election fraud.

But BLM and Antifa didn’t embarrass me, because Blacks can never be evil. That’s actually true. I went to school and I had the training at work and on CNN and we learned in school about the civil rights movement and MLK, Jr, and Rosa Parks, and everything — Blacks can’t be evil or misinformed! No. None of the BLM or Antifa protestors ever went too far. I’m not guilty of black-and-white thinking. I mean, it’s true Blacks are now like 14% of the US population and still do over half of the violent recorded crime in the United States, but if people mention that, I have my rejoinder.

>>18972415
Yo is this actually Alex Jones?

>>18962531
he fucking told him to read Celine to make him less right wing lmao

It’s a very small amount of Blacks flint that. And it’s from oppression, and White privilege. And the people who bring up that fact are bigots and self-obsessed Whites, and I’m embarrassed for them, and I laugh at them, even if it’s true.

It’s just that these are crazy conservatives. They hate progress. They think Obama and Biden are the antichrist. They think ivermectin, a fucking medicine for horses, is a valid treatment for COVID-19. I saw it on the news. It’s this crazy far-right misinformation ... anything that disagrees with the liberal consensus is alt-right. It’s like they have delusions of grandeur or something and think they know better than the experts. So Harvey Weinstein, who started the #MeToo movement, was a Jew who used the Mega Group, a group of former Mossad agents employed as security guards to intimidate witnesses and accusers of him, and Epstein had ties to him, too...

What? OK, so Jews are 0.2% of the world population, and some people object to some of their treatment of Palestinians, and sure, some of them weaponize accusations of antisemitism if you call out their crimes, but if you talk about Jewish power too much, you’re an antisemite. You’re making generalizations about all Jewish people!

https://www.nationandstate.com/2019/08/10/mega-group-maxwells-and-mossad-the-spy-story-at-the-heart-of-the-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/

But if we have teachings about White privilege and engrained White supremacy in the US and Europe, which are majority-White countries, we’re not making generalizations about all Whites or anything. You can’t be racist towards Whites.

What? When the media makes fun of and/or demonizes the alt-right and White supremacists, I do not see a double standard or hypocrisy in that, just like when they focused on Islamic terrorism obsessively after 9/11. They had a point! 9/11 was so scary, so we had to focus on Islamic terrorism a lot. Similarly, we now have to focus on the dangers of conservatism a lot.

So they’re bringing in a lot of immigrants across the Mexico-US border. OK. They’re not replacing Whites! The liberal media I read said so. So they work for cheaper. Count Koudenhove-Kalergi, who’s that? Only Whites can be evil. Only males can be evil. Minorities can never be evil. Women can never be evil. We have to smash Whiteness. We have to destroy the patriarchy. No double standard here.

Joel Stein? Who’s that? Stein? A Jewish surname? Jews are 2% of the population yet dominate and overrepresent in Hollywood just like Blacks are hugely overrepresented in the NBA? He wrote a whole article on it? Oh, please.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-dec-19-oe-stein19-story.html

Ok, racial IQ differences — what the fuck is wrong with you, man? Ok, so it’s true statistically. The Bell Curve, what? That’s not acceptable to bring up in polite society. But it’s from societal differences. OK, so African Americans have an average IQ of like 85...

>>18972496
>https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-dec-19-oe-stein19-story.html

any way I can read this without subscribing to the LA times?

It’s from societal differences. Poverty. Lack of access to education. And East Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have a higher IQ on average than Whites by a few points, and Whites much higher than third-world Africans and the Latinos and aboriginal tribes — it’s from societal differences and from economic reasons! Not genetic. It’d be offensive to say that. I’d be like Hitler, for Christ’s sake:

And it could never be that these IQ differences could be the cause of some disparities between these different races. I mean, OK, I admit the IQs are different statistically, on average, but even so, it’s from societal and economic differences, but it’s not like this could lead to disparities! Any disparities are the outcome of systemic racism and discrimination, and have to be forcibly fixed. We need to have affirmative action, critical race theory training for kids, and constant propaganda in the news about how any dissenters from all this are the outcasts, the pariahs, either

>pitifully misinformed hicks, or
>outright deliberately evil, dangerous, malicious gloating fascists being a threat to society just because they want to be

Same for differences between men and women. OK, biological and neurological differences, whatever ... men are naturally wired to be physically stronger, and overrepresented in STEM fields because of how their brains work... but if women aren’t represented enough in STEM, it’s, once again, from sexism and discrimination, so we need affirmative action to boost those numbers. Women and men different, what, why I never — you ... !!! Why, you rascal, you!!! What are you, a traditional fundamentalist Christian bigot? A member of the Taliban? Gonna shoot up a school? Or you’re even an incel who can’t get laid? I was reading in the news, my God, so embarrassing, the incels...

So in some liberal districts they’re teaching this radical transgender ideology to kids, just like they’re doing critical race theory, so what? You’re crazy. Take meds, schizo. tl;dr. It’s just a few crazy places, in California state-wide, whatever ... it doesn’t hurt the kids too much, it’s just teaching them to be more sensitive and respectful about this .1% of the population, who some crazy conservatives think are mentally ill, so what maybe 20-30% of the population probably either overtly or secretly thinks transgenders are just mentally ill people and they feel bad for transgender people and think they’ll never, biologically speaking, be the gender that they’re claiming to be? We’re so nice, we sympathize with the victim, with the minority, we know what’s right for everyone, we’ll override that conservative transphobia, we’ll teach the kids what WE think is right, we’ll write laws that the kids can now demand to be called by the new names and pronouns they demand at school and get surgery and on hormones and puberty blockers without their parents’ consent, only transphobes will object!

What?

>>18972540
Joel Stein

I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe “the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews,” down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.

How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.

The person they were yelling at in that ad was SAG President Alan Rosenberg (take a guess). The scathing rebuttal to the ad was written by entertainment super-agent Ari Emanuel (Jew with Israeli parents) on the Huffington Post, which is owned by Arianna Huffington (not Jewish and has never worked in Hollywood.)

The Jews are so dominant, I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies. When I called them to talk about their incredible advancement, five of them refused to talk to me, apparently out of fear of insulting Jews. The sixth, AMC President Charlie Collier, turned out to be Jewish.

ADVERTISING

As a proud Jew, I want America to know about our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood. Without us, you’d be flipping between “The 700 Club” and “Davey and Goliath” on TV all day.

So I’ve taken it upon myself to re-convince America that Jews run Hollywood by launching a public relations campaign, because that’s what we do best. I’m weighing several slogans, including: “Hollywood: More Jewish than ever!”; “Hollywood: From the people who brought you the Bible”; and “Hollywood: If you enjoy TV and movies, then you probably like Jews after all.”

>>18972540
>>18972556
I called ADL Chairman Abe Foxman, who was in Santiago, Chile, where, he told me to my dismay, he was not hunting Nazis. He dismissed my whole proposition, saying that the number of people who think Jews run Hollywood is still too high. The ADL poll, he pointed out, showed that 59% of Americans think Hollywood execs “do not share the religious and moral values of most Americans,” and 43% think the entertainment industry is waging an organized campaign to “weaken the influence of religious values in this country.”

That’s a sinister canard, Foxman said. “It means they think Jews meet at Canter’s Deli on Friday mornings to decide what’s best for the Jews.” Foxman’s argument made me rethink: I have to eat at Canter’s more often.

“That’s a very dangerous phrase, ‘Jews control Hollywood.’ What is true is that there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood,” he said. Instead of “control,” Foxman would prefer people say that many executives in the industry “happen to be Jewish,” as in “all eight major film studios are run by men who happen to be Jewish.”

But Foxman said he is proud of the accomplishments of American Jews. “I think Jews are disproportionately represented in the creative industry. They’re disproportionate as lawyers and probably medicine here as well,” he said. He argues that this does not mean that Jews make pro-Jewish movies any more than they do pro-Jewish surgery. Though other countries, I’ve noticed, aren’t so big on circumcision.

I appreciate Foxman’s concerns. And maybe my life spent in a New Jersey-New York/Bay Area-L.A. pro-Semitic cocoon has left me naive. But I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.

>>18972556
>>18972560
Thanks.

>>18972544
What? What? Some of the kids — increasingly, a big amount of them actually REGRET the irreversible damage they’ve done to themselves with the surgery and the damage? The author, Abigail Shrier, faced terrible shrieking attacks, slanders, misrepresentation, dropped by bookstores for even pointing this out? She doesn’t agree with the experts. She’s evil. There’s no “cancel culture”! What a load of ... what a bunch of Russian horseshit! It’s Putin’s propaganda. She has Fox News, Tucker Carlson, InfoWars and everything to go on and promote herself. She can promote herself as much as she wants! It’s just that she’s WRONG. She’s evil for even bringing it up! Why do conservatives think they’re being persecuted when they’re simply disagreed with!

Because conservatives are backwards. They’re against change. I mean, sure, America is a free country, we have the first amendment right to free speech, people have the right to disagree and all, but if Big Tech and the mainstream media is censoring and belittling these opposing viewpoints, it’s THEIR right to, as well. They don’t want to allow hateful viewpoints to gain traction. They’re private companies! They can do whatever they want to. There’s nothing sinister about this. OK, so things are a little more dangerous and aggressive than I remember it being when I was a kid ... a lot more, maybe ... it’s natural, it’s just how history goes, we had the hippie and counterculture movement, then we had the evangelical Christian neocon movement with Bush and we were all so patriotic then and supported the Middle East wars, we were all so happy then to see the evil terrorists targeted, some hated Bush a lot, then, but now we’ve settled into the social justice mindset.

The mindset that’s the ultimate truth, the outcome of millions of years of mankind slowly learning to see the truth that CNN is always right and anyone who objects is some type of White supremacist bigot. Especially in times like these with COVID-19, oh boy, the alt-right misinformation, how terrible! These backwards people who don’t want to take the vaccine made in under a year, whereas normal vaccines have 10-15 years of testing and COVID-19 has an average age of death in the West of 1973... anyway, blood clots, heart inflammation, heart attacks, Guillain-Barré syndrome (a disorder caused by the immune system attacking the peripheral nervous system, typically causing paralysis of the extremities and requiring hospitalization), OK, but the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risk!

Smash Whiteness! Destroy the patriarchy! Force medical experiments — which they’re not really medical experiments, since CNN and the fact checkers debunked this and said they’re not, so they’re not — onto people! Only Nazis would object!

So the vaccine might have side effects that could take months or years to show up? What? Impossible!

I am a genius.

>>18972619
>>18972619
>>18972619
Np. Zuckerberg, founder and CEO of FaceBook, is also Jewish. Current CEO of YouTube, Susan Wojkicki, is a Polish Jew. The founders of Google, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, are both ethnically Jewish. Jews are 2% of the United States population.

>>18972415
>What? The police and security guards stood by and basically allowed the protestors to enter the Capitol on 1/6? There was possible CIA involvement in it?
FBI**. Not CIA. Sounds minor but I’m a stickler for detail and hate getting stuff wrong in my blog rants.

Anyway ... what’s more important than all this, is we have the White supremacist alt-right figures to make fun of! That’s all, folks.

>>18972636
>whereas normal vaccines have 10-15 years of testing and COVID-19 has an average age of death in the West of 1973...
Of 73***.

What? Fauci let the National Institute of Health (NIH) give grants to fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology of coronaviruses, research to make coronaviruses stronger, while Obama was President? The city in which the coronavirus pandemic happened had a lab in it studying how to make viruses stronger?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/08/americans-deserve-the-truth-about-gain-of-function-research-and-the-wuhan-lab/

I remember Trump brought it up, oh boy. That was terrible. He was promoting violence against Chinese people by suggesting the virus came from the Chinese Wuhan lab and the CCP was covering it up. The news said so. Officials of the Democratic Party and the CCP could never have done a backroom deal to create and even release the virus at a specific time and place for strange political ends having to do with the desires and machinations of the 1%. That would be like something in a James Bond movie.

Imagine how crazy it would be if Fauci himself — everyone himself loves Fauci — was somehow behind the release of the virus he himself is now the authority of giving expert advice on? That would mean Fauci would be a liar and mass murderer on the par of Stalin, Hitler, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, and the like. That could only happen in other countries, not in America under a Democratic President — if genocide WERE to happen in America, it would be under an alt-right fascist president and dangerous terror threat like Trump whipping people up into a frenzy over how evil minorities are!

NEVER in America!

Biden’s administration is flagging posts for FaceBook to censor that are spreading COVID-19 misinformation? That’s not an abridgment of the 1st Amendment right to free speech or anything! That’s not a drastically dangerous step for the US federal government to be taking!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-administration-s-admission-they-re-flagging-content-to-facebook-sparks-furor/ar-AAMcFjp

Now Biden is sending people door to door to check up on the unvaccinated and ask them why didn’t get vaccinated and respectfully give them some information about why they should get vaccinated. An invasion of privacy, an infringement of medical autonomy, and a totalitarian liberal nanny state — what, why, I never ... !!! IT’S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD! Nothing creepy about it, bucko. YOU’RE the creepy one if you think it’s creepy, you stupid fucking fuck — fuck you!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/president-biden-just-introduced-a-door-to-door-plan-for-covid-19-vaccines/ar-AALUMlc

Biden is so lovable, he’s just some lovable old man, he won’t hurt anyone like TRUMP did.

Thanks based Alex

>>18972762
Yo any time my man. Ironically my first name is actually Alex in real life too. Peace. God loves you.

>>18972768
Peace bro

>>18972636
>OK, but the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risk!
On this point they're right, which is why their delivery is so awful. There's all kinds of risks attached to vaccines, but usually the meme one is autism and those crazies. The actual risks rarely get discussed and the people who wind up with narcolepsy or an allergic reaction at most get a few weeks in the news, and then fade into the background because the meme crazies are better SM fodder. There is a genuine medical grade question about informed consent there that underlies a lot of US/Americanised problems. The answer to "what if you're unlucky and are the one in a million who gets this life altering disability?" should not be "so what? think of the big picture". That is not how you give someone informed consent. It's one of the worst and most obviously coercive ways to frame the decision.

>>18972415
So this post in the picture I’m linking to is David Rockefeller (d. 2017), former chief executive and chairman of the Chade Manhattan branch, sitting together with Lord Nathaniel Charles Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild, OK, who’s a British peer, investment banker, and member of the prominent Rothschild banking family, who have often been the target of antisemitic conspiracy theories accusing them of secretly running the world. The Rothschild family was instrumental in the creation of Israel, which some leftists think is a genocidal apartheid state against Palestinians blah blah blah blah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnU4NLDF1LU
https://newspunch.com/lord-rothschild-israel/

OK, whatever. And so Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild and her husband, Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, had these ties to Epstein and it was Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild who introduced Ghislaine Maxwell to Prince Andrew, who thereupon went to Epstein’s island and there was a big scandal over it, and Epstein and Maxwell were apparently most likely somehow triple agents for the United States CIA, the United Kingdom’s MI6, and Israel’s Mossad... yeah, whatever, man.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/alleged-epstein-victim-sues-prince-andrew-sexual-abuse/story?id=79367126
https://www.nationandstate.com/2019/07/11/jeffrey-epstein-sex-blackmailer-for-the-mossad-and-cia/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10414087/ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-mossad-agents-politicians-sex-blackmail/

Anyway, Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild and her husband Sir Evelyn de Rothschild are also close friends with and hang out with Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Bill Clinton was close with Epstein and most likely went to Epstein’s island, what? What are these connections you’re making man? And then Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild heavily bankrolled and funded Hillary’s 2016 presidential campaign? Pffftt, yeah, whatever, OK. Who cares about that? And what are these sources, anyway? I don’t trust these obscure sources.

https://pagesix.com/2016/08/11/lady-lynn-forester-de-rothschild-throws-hillary-fundraiser/

Ehh, OK, yeah, so you’re saying that then there’s something called NXIVM, too, an American cult that engaged in sex trafficking, forced labor and racketeering but used the front of appearing to be a multi-level marketing company that offered personal and professional development seminars? And they were branding women and forcing them into sexual slavery and there were big lawsuits and scandals over it?

And Clare Bronfman (b. 1979), convicted felon, former NXIVM leader, and American heiress of the Canadian-Jewish Bronfman dynasty that got rich off of bootlegged alcohol during the Prohibition then founded the Seagram Liquor Company, was involved in it, too, and there were Hollywood actresses in this and everything? Sentenced to 7 years in jail? And they were using advanced MK-Ultra style brainwashing and torture of the NXIVM cult members?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/us/bronfman-nxivm-sentenced/index.html

Sex trafficking, forced labor, and racketeering ... Hollywood actress Allison Mack ... Bronfman heiress Clare Bronfman involved it. Gotta make fun of White supremacists, incels, bigots, and chuds on /lit/, man. Keith Raniere, the head of NXIVM, was some type of cult leader, eh? Probably because he’s White, that’s what White people do. They’re the enemy to focus on.

Bronfman-Rothschild, a joint financial firm created by these two Jewish dynasties — so now the Rothschilds and Bronfmans have ties to each other, and the Rothschilds have ties to Epstein and his pedophile island, and the Bronfmans to the brainwashing sexually abusive NXIVM cult, and all of these to Hollywood and big politicians?

The Rockefellers ... OK, so the Rockefellers, yeah, I heard of them, they’re this White banking dynasty. Don’t know much about them, just that they’re really powerful blah blah blah. So they have a lot of ties to and holdings in Big Pharma, is what you’re saying? Chase Bank is what David Rockefeller was high up in? And then you’re telling me that the Rockefeller Foundation is extremely influential with the World Health Organization and the United Nations? And the Rockefeller Foundation works with the UN and the WHO to push vaccines to developing countries? That’s great! The Rockefellers are great people! They want the best for everyone!

John D. Rockefeller founded Standard Oil in 1870 with Henry Flagler, eh? Oil, Big Pharma, banking, politics — is there anything the Rockefellers can’t or don’t do?!

But wait, now you’re going to tell me the Rockefellers were funding eugenics and sterilization research in the early 1900s in the United States on immigrants, the disabled, the mentally ill, Blacks, and the like — anyone thought to be inferior? Then they funded the Kaiser-Wilhelm Institute of Psychiatry in Munich, Germany, headed by Ernst Rudin, MD, in the 1930s, which went on to develop and study theories of racial hygiene and the sterilization of 400,00 Germans until public skepticism and the Nuremberg Race Law made them have to withhold their funding in 1935?

https://dl.tufts.edu/downloads/5q47s068m?filename=fj236d30d
https://ahrp.org/september-16-1933-rudins-institute-receives-1000000/

And then — wait, what? Vaccines the Rockefeller Foundation, the WHO, and subsidiary UN groups were pushing to people in developing countries like Nicaragua and the Philippines were found to have been sterilizing them without their consent or knowledge, many many decades later?

hCG, an anti-fertility agent in tetanus vaccines, which the Rockefeller Foundation was pushing to people in developing countries ... hm... hm.

I looked at Snopes, and they debunked it! The Catholic priests protesting against this sent the vaccines to be analyzed in a lab and said they confirmed the anti-fertility agent was in all of them, but the official sources simply said “They’re mistaken.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12346214/

So it ended up being the governments’ word versus the crazy anti-vaxxers’ words, and the government and official sources are always right and telling the truth, except when they’re mistaken and/or lying, which we KNOW happens and is sorta confusing and difficult to deal with, like WMDs in Iraq, but in this case we just trust the government.

So then Snopes swooped in to save the day and Snopes debunked it so yeah, the vaccines the Rockefellers, the WHO, and the UN were giving didn’t sterilize people, even if people were complaining about this happening and got scientists to back them up...

Blah blah blah. Alt-right misinformation, tinfoil hat lunatics. Misinformed. They think they know better than the experts.

“Epstein didn’t kill himself,” ha, right, yeah, that’s a funny joke, for sure. OK, it’s probably true, but I’m not going to think about it much. So he was in jail on suicide watch then was found to have hanged himself, and had ties to some of the most powerful people of the world, whom he had sexual blackmail on, such as Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew, OK, whatever, sure! OK, something weird may have happened, there, I’ll give you that — it’s a joke by now, mainstream, even, one of the few scandals we admit, like Watergate, or the WMD lie in Iraq.

Rockefellers, Big Pharma, Standard Oil, Chase Bank, banking, Wall Street bankers having funded the Third Reich and the Bolshevik Revolution and helped create the Federal Reserve, the Warburgs, the Rothschilds, the Mossad, Jeffrey Epstein, the Clintons, Prince Andrew, the MI6, the Bronfmans, NXIVM, the Jewish Question ... Jesus motherfucking tittyfucking Christ on a stick, wow. Lemme guess, you think the election was stolen, too?

Boy, I’m tired. Too tired to seriously look into evidence suggesting the vaccine is more dangerous than the news, Fauci, Biden, and many reliable politicians of both parties are saying is safe and effective and the best way to end the pandemic. TIRED TIRED TIRED. Sleepy. *yawns* It’d be uninformed vaccine misinformation from sources that are not either CNN or Fox News or even anything close to them, at all, anyway.

Figures who think it’s the vaccine itself causing new variants to arise:

>Geert Vanden Bossche, DMV, PhD, independent virologist and vaccine expert, formerly employed at GAVI and The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/

>Dr. Robert Malone, mRNA tech pioneer who worked with the Department of Defense and also says Big Tech is censoring him when he tries to talk about how dangerous the vaccine could be

https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/08/mrna-tech-inventor-dr-robert-malone-easier-for-delta-to-kill-vaccinated-than-jab-free-people

>French virologist Luc Montagnier, who won the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for discovering HIV, also believes it is the vaccine causing new variants to arise, and also believes the virus came from a laboratory. He urges the public to reject the jabs.

https://thenewamerican.com/french-nobel-prize-winner-warns-vaccines-facilitate-development-of-deadlier-covid-variants-urges-the-public-to-reject-jabs/

The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment happened, sure. They gave all these Blacks syphilis and slowly let them die, withholding the cure from them. In our very own United States. Tragic! Another example of White supremacy and the inhumanity of man to man, how little we care about the suffering of minorities. But it can’t happen again! The news even brings it UP and says, “OK, we’re sorry, it happened before, but it’s alt-right misinfo if you think it’s happening again right now as you’re actually reading this. Honest.”

OK, these sources suck! A Nobel prize winner? Robert Malone, who helped create mRNA technology and worked with the Department of Defense? I read the fact-checker, they said Malone is a fucked up liar, and alt-right sources falsely claimed he invented mRNA vaccines! He DIDN’T! He only did amazing groundbreaking research in mRNA technology which later led to mRNA vaccines being created! So this slight mis-step of wording is very important for me and makes me throw out the entire source. Snopes and Reuter debunked the whole thing, said they’re spreading COVID-19 misinformation, and I believe them!

Smile! The NSA is watching you.

Anyway, this whole list of research — it’s bullshit! I don’t even have to look through it all in depth to know it’s bullshit. It’s debunked already — it’s PREBUNKED, just like antisemitic conspiracy theories are. Hahahaha, you had me going for a while until you had to go into COVID-19 so much, not gonna lie, man! It was otherwise a cool thread but you ruined it with the COVID-19 bullshit!

https://www.wkrn.com/news/nashville-woman-partially-paralyzed-after-rare-reaction-to-covid-vaccine-walks-again/

>Nashville, TN woman paralyzed hours after vax

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9496075/Mothers-legs-erupt-horrifying-rash-blisters-getting-AstraZenecas-Covid-vaccine.html

>Painful bloody blisters on mother's legs after vax

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/twelve-year-old-girl-in-wheelchair-after-pfizer-vaccine-mother-in-tears

>12 y/o girl in wheelchair, painfully disabled, after Pfizer vax trial (seen & interviewed with mother on Fox News) — she was about as likely to die in a lightning strike as she was from COVID-19

https://www.statnews.com/2021/07/12/jjs-covid-19-vaccine-may-trigger-neurological-condition-in-rare-cases-fda-says/

>FDA says J&J COV-19 vax may trigger rare neurological condition in certain cases (Guillain-Barré syndrome, paralysis caused by your body’s immune system attacking your own peripheral nervous system)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/langley-man-intestine-vaccine-effect-1.6027830

>Blood clot, Langley man loses small intestines after vax

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9732583/Mother-three-47-dies-AstraZeneca-Covid-jab-caused-blood-clots-brain.html

>47 y/o mother’s death with blood clots in the brain caused by AstraZeneca vaccine

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/teen-who-had-heart-attack-after-covid-vaccine-tells-rfk-jr-i-thought-it-was-safe/

>Teen Who Had Heart Attack After COVID Vaccine Tells RFK, Jr.: 'I Thought It Was Safe'

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33300001/

>SARS-Cov-2 spike protein alone can cause damage
>mRNA vax makes cells produce these spikes
>Can damage endothelial lining of cells

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/covid-19-vaccine-affect-period_l_6086d4f9e4b09a22a4456632

>Vax affecting women's periods

https://medicine.temple.edu/news/sars-cov-2-spike-proteins-disrupt-blood-brain-barrier-potentially-raising-risk-neurological

>SARS-CoV-2 spike proteins produced by mRNA vaccine can cause neurological damage by crossing the blood-brain barrier

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-vaccine-spike-protein-travels-from-injection-site-organ-damage/

>Spike proteins accumulate in the internal organs and could damage them

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04-sars-cov-spike-protein-lung.html

>mRNA-vaccine produced SARS-CoV-2 spike proteins could cause lung damage

The way you put everything is damned arrogant, not going to lie, but some of it was fun to read and you brought up some good points and interesting historical trivia, man.

https://www.rt.com/russia/528296-ukraine-man-dies-pfizer/

>Ukrainian man passes out, dies hours after Pfizer vax

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-dies-after-rare-astrazeneca-24402242

>Man has skull surgery & death after rare reaction to AZeneca vax

https://www.rt.com/usa/527823-moderna-vaccine-blood-clot/

>Pittsburgh man blood clot death from Moderna vax

https://jpost.com/health-science/19-year-old-hospitalized-with-heart-inflammation-after-pfizer-vaccination-657428

>19 y/o hospitalized with myocarditis after Pfizer vax

https://www.thecollegefix.com/northwestern-student-appears-to-have-died-from-heart-inflammation-linked-to-covid-vaccine/

>Northwestern Uni student myocarditis death from vax

https://www.rt.com/uk/533165-bbc-presenter-astrazeneca-death/

>Coroner confirms 44-year-old BBC presenter died from blood clots caused by the AstraZeneca vaccine

https://www.infowars.com/posts/mrna-technology-pioneer-blasts-big-tech-censorship/

>mRNA tech pioneer, Dr. Robert Malone who worked with the Department of Defense: "Vax could be more dangerous than thought, & Big Tech is censoring me when I speak of this"

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

>Ex-Pfizer VP, immunologist, and former chief of Allergy and Respiratory Research at Pfizer, Dr. Michael Yeadon: "Govt. lying about vax in way that could kill you"

https://www.newsweek.com/13-year-old-dies-sleep-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-vaccine-cdc-investigating-1606529

>13 y/o dies in sleep after Pfizer vax, CDC investigates

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/06/21/covid-vaccine-variant-afghanistan-canada-mexico-delta/7765857002/

>Australia: more blood clot deaths from vax than COV-19 deaths within a certain time period

https://www.infowars.com/posts/comedian-jimmy-dore-still-suffering-from-effects-2-months-after-moderna-jab/

>Comedian Jimmy Dore has vax side effects 2 months after jab

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2021-05-17/eric-clapton-astrazeneca-vaccine

>Eric Clapton's hands hurt, numb, frozen after vax (was afraid he’d never be able to play the guitar again)

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/the-peoples-testaments-polly-tommey-sally-kirkland-moderna-vaccine-constant-pain/

>Actress Sally Kirkland After Moderna Vaccine: In My 79 Years, I’ve Never Experienced This Level of Pain

>Immediately after her second Moderna shot, award-winning actress Sally Kirkland knew something was wrong — five months later, she remains in almost constant pain.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/11/cdc-covid-vaccines-mrna-heart-inflammation-reports?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1

>CDC adds heart inflammation warning to mRNA vax (June 11, 2021)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/19/moderna-vaccine-myocarditis/

>U.S. officials reviewing possibility Moderna vaccine is linked to higher risk of uncommon side effect, heart inflammation, than previously thought, delaying adolescent approval (August 19, 2021)

https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdf

>mRNA vax could hypothetically cause prion disease
>Vaccine is medical experiment

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/eminent-doc-covid-vax-is-bioterrorism-by-injection-and-has-likely-caused-at-least-50k-deaths-in-the-us

>Dr. Pete McCullough: "Vax could be killing & harming many more people than the news says. CDC whistleblowers I know claim it's in the tens of thousands already."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/virginia-woman-massive-brain-bleed-covid-vaccine

>As Fauci says "Get over it & get your jab," Virginia woman recounts massive brain bleed from vax

>As Fauci says "Get over it & get your jab," Virginia woman recounts massive brain bleed from vax

https://www.infowars.com/posts/italian-neurosurgeon-who-operated-on-covid-vaccine-victim-says-never-seen-anything-like-this/

>Italian neurosurgeon who operated on vax victim: "Never seen anything like this. Her brain swelled up so much we had to cut open the skull to relieve pressure."

Alex Jones, what are you doing in my thread? Why did you crash my thread?

Frank Zappa, oh yeah I love that guy. The crazy rock, jazz, and even classical musician who was very iconoclastic, even against the hippies and the counterculture themselves. He had a song called “Packard Goose” with these lyrics I found sort of offensive and antisemitic, though

Better suck a little harder
Or the shekels won’t flow
And I don’t mean your thumb
So on your knees you bum
And suck it till you’re numb

>>18972829
Thank you for the nuanced, very interesting, more informed but slightly different view from me. Yeah, narcolepsy, for instance — I think it was the swine flu vaccines they admitted caused that in some people, sadly. Guillain-Barré syndrome was happening from that too.

I’m a little crazier, more speculative, and out there, so I just think the virus came from the Wuhan lab deliberately, is being used to institute martial law and create a totalitarian police/surveillance state, and then reduce the population with the vaccines and booster shots (so as to “solve overpopulation,” resource depletion, kill the useless eaters and the like). I think this’ll eventually get somewhat obvious but they’ll even have plans in place for that. God I’m tired. Basically, “Oh, fuck, we’re so sorry this happened, we have to recall some of the vaccines, repeal the mandates, and give some restitutions to the survivors and/or their families.” Something like that is actually possible. They print money out the ass like it’s nothing.

Hanlon’s Razor: “never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity.” So you may be right that it’s more stupidity/thoughtlessness.

But an acceptable mainstream view about 9/11, for instance, is, “It was terrible that Osama did it, but we over-reacted to it and exploited it to get those oil reserves.” I jump the whole hog, though, and say, “It’s terrible the US government did 9/11 so we could justify invading the Middle East for oil reserves.”

I’m Alex Jones, for God’s sake.

>>18972852

>>18973054
Not the guy you are replying to my but running hypothesis is that the elite has these plans but they also have infighting and frankly retarded and incompetent people at "levels" higher than they used to be, like the people who set this shit up were true machiavellians but now we're dealing with their retarded 4th and 6th generation children who are unironically high on their own propaganda (which was supposed to be just for us plebs) half the time, which is queering the plans.

My other big guess is that many of the plans are more about directing things and exploiting opportunities than they are complete and utter top-down control. So, they do have plans to exploit a pandemic, for example, to do pretty much what you're assuming there, however, this is based not on a singular James Bond scheme to create such a pandemic, but on statistical projections that SARS-like viruses will emerge with such and such frequency, and statistically they will be serious enough to be "worth" triggering the next phase of the plan this % of the time, which statistically means that the plan has a 90% chance of being triggered by 20xx... And so on.

What I think happened was that they didn't expect various things that happened in the 2000s. Or rather, they expected the population to be much more stagnant and docile. They weren't expecting a populist or nativist resurgence, they weren't expecting as much ennui and passive resistance as they're getting, they weren't expecting the hysteria and insanity they've whipped up among braindead liberals to start demanding more sacrificial victims instead of being easily placated by just the occasional victim.

My guess, they weren't expecting Trump, and it fucked up some of their projections, plans, and statistics-based models, and the stupider, cruder elites I mentioned above then started to panic on the one hand, and overconfidently go "lmao we're the elites, we can do anything just trigger the plan nigga" on the other, and that caused the biggest fuckups yet we've seen from them, like this whole pandemic thing being a botched, contradictory mess. Some of them are still trying to force the authoritarian elements of it through, but those were simply not designed for such a low intensity pandemic with a population that barely gives a shit, either because they are being contrarian anti-liberal populists or because even the liberals are too braindead and distracted to care enough.

They probably have fifty backup plans, for example I think it's worth worrying about them forgetting about vaccine-based social credit and just using the lockdowns to destroy western countries economies and cause a great depression to accelerate whatever other geopolitical things they are going to do next.

>>18973086
This is good shit. Very far schizo view goes, “Even Trump himself was controlled opposition.” Which he sort of is and still was, in some respects, but I also give you that he at least threw a wrench into their plans, being somewhat of a mindfuck for them, as you put it.

You talk about how, “Even they are surprised by the liberal hysteria they’ve whipped up.” Could it be that the liberal hysteria is actually their spearhead, their vanguard? In other words, social justice as the start of a new religion — /pol/ style hypothesis. And this would work so well precisely because we live in a world such that we have /pol/, where even real facts are relegated because they’re — it’s in the name — politically incorrect to discuss them elsewhere.

Brave New World meets 1984. The brilliant plan, is to make people think they’re decent, tolerant, humane, enlightened liberals resisting fascism and the dark underbelly of society, while these people are actually promoting totalitarianism and authoritarian forms of government without knowing — but softly, subtly, slowly implemented, with brilliant brainwashing techniques — in all of Hollywood, in Big Tech (what it bumps up and what it chooses to censor), in the news. Turning people into slaves and making them love their slavery, as Huxley would put it — then, if you dissent — the 1984-style brainwashing for you. Thoughtcrime. Memoryholes. 2-minute-hate breaks (of, ironically, conservatives! Fascists! Nazis! The alt-right! Trump! White supremacists! etc.) I want to give some great long quotes soon and let them speak for themselves since I’m tired thinking up this stuff all myself.

And yeah, the stuff about the descendants not necessarily being as potent, charismatic, and intelligent as the ancestors strikes home as very possible to me, too. More just not knowing what they’re doing.

Did it come from the Wuhan lab deliberately, or was it a “happy accident” — everything being structured so that at some point, it would most likely accidentally leak from the lab, therefore giving themselves plausible deniability? you have a good question about that too. When I’m not so stuck in the Alex Jones persona, I have to admit I’m certainly not omniscient.

>>18962487
Why does Bongland seem like a totalitarian hellscape?

>>18973149
meds and have sex

Also, see the “Karens” they talk about the MSM. I think they want to specifically simultaneously turn people into “Karens” just so they can ridicule them. “Look how angry and passionate in an unacceptable way these people are about politics! How disgusting, sad, and embarrassing!”

Imagine someone in New Zealand flipping out and going, “Holy fucking shit, what the Goddamned fuck — they closed down the whole fucking country over one fucking COVID-19 case. I want to snap this bitch Jacinda Ardern’s neck, pluck out her eyelashes one by one with a tweezer, rip out her teeth one by one with pliers and without anesthesia, take broken glass shards and jam it into her pussy and asshole, force-feed shit down her threat through a plastic tube, rip open her stomach, tear out the pancreas, put it into a blender, feed that to her, too, disembowel her small intestines and wear them around my neck as a necklace, then drill a hole into her skull and fuck it, as well as of anyone who supports any of this crap, also ever notice how affirmative action kinda sucks and is hypocritical (etc.)”

Then imagine the news going, “look how sad and disturbed and angry this ‘Karen’ is! He made this huge disturbing rant in public over nothing, and bystanders were recording it so they could post it on social media and socially humiliate him. He lost his job (luckily), got arrested and charged for hate speech, and here’s the Snopes article debunking why alt-right conspiracy theorists think it’s a bad idea that we locked down a whole fucking county over one COVID-19 case. Hahaha, everything is normal, citizens! How sad, embarrassing, and painful it is for everyone when these ‘Karen’s’ have their nervous breakdowns and criticize anything at all that we do!”

On A Human Face Forever

we define a "world" basically as a worldview. so a person constructs a "world" out of things that make sense to them.
i believe that each person must do this, must integrate self concept in order to also integrate language, and this in turn,
must occur in order to create the higher-order reflexive thought that creates consciousness. today, many never pass the
mirror formation stage, they never develop an ideal self which they can attach anything to, and thus they become prodromal
schizophrenics. they become a part of the unindividuated mass whom jung claimed are prone to psychic infection. they are
thus more animal than human. they feel pain but they are incapable of suffering.

in a person who begins to individuate, all the disparate formations perceived by the senses are associated together into language
and ascribed meaning. but in order to do this, there has to be a prevailing metanarrative. in this case, the cult -- or even the society
-- creates, shapes, and forms that metanarrative. to destroy this narrative is to destroy the self, to unravel that which merges one
with the larger parental unit, to be flung into outer darkness, to become marginalized -- to be devoured by the other, by the chaos beings.
in rejecting the consensus social reality which one has been born with, the individual undergoes an actual ego death. at that point it is
incumbent upon them to somehow recreate their personality from scratch.

standing alone means that all social solidarity is thrown out the window, and all consensus reality is gone. when you stand alone, you
will forever be forever from that moment in a world of your own, a cosmic reprobate, forever alienated in some deep existential sense,
unless you can recreate culture through a process of worldbuilding and world-centering. the culture at large provides built in outlets
for these narratives, all involving purpose and some kind of enemy which society is providing shelter from.

with 9/11 we see a "war on terror" which necessitates conformity and a surrendering of privacy which engendered in the populace an
accommodationist attitude towards violations of civil and individual rights, and with covid we see a "war on disease" which again necessitates
a far more exaggerated version of these features, features which could be seen as a variation on orwell's "two minutes hate," perhaps more
pronounced than even orwell himself could have envisioned, wherein metaphysically necessary existential threats such as death, fear, and
disease themselves are anthropomorphized, monsterized and "reified." they are concretized through a social engineering narrative that
reduces metaphysical necessities into forms of social oppression which, we are told, have tangible orginary sources within the physical world
itself, sources which can be overcome through transhumanist technoscientific and marxist political means.

>>18973162

any conflicting notion is seen as a direct attack on the self, an attack on the exemption from death, fear, and disease which our cultic beliefs
provide, and will not go undefended. we deny any affront to our worldview that comes from those who will not conform to our nomos. it is they
who are the source of our sufferings, they who have created death and disease. they must be attacked and defeated. It is these individuals
who can be cast out and rejected, in ritual fashion, a totemic scapegoat for the emerging global tribe.

so when you reject all of that, all of the fears come flooding back into your space, back into the area that the magic circle had previously
protected you from. to reframe or reject this narrative takes great courage.


I’m a bit of a graphomaniac at times, not going to lie.

>>18973162
>>18973167
http://web.archive.org/web/20210101183643/http://sentimentalcorp.org/systemsdeath_recordings/randy_prozac/golems_of_the_oligarchs/audioplayer.html

Pic related, if we focused on flu deaths a lot in the news, too, they would succeed in getting you scared of the flu.

>>18973157
I already took my meds. I like sex. Women are nice and sexy. They like me when I’m not being TOO weird and hide my power level instead of revealing it to them fully. In fact, my awkwardness and politeness even endears me to some of them. Haven’t gotten with a woman in a while but my hand is still cool.

I already took my meds, thanks for reminding me, though.

Can you have sex with me? Please. I’m begging you. Have sex with me.

>>18962487
All classic literature is right wing

>>18962634
Yes. You'll be hearing from the based department shortly.

>>18970457
capped

>>18962531
>Think about T.S Eliot
Eliot made me more right wing

>>18972560
fucking kek that gif
that is all

>>18962531
Hahhahahaah he suggested only antisemites and fascist material

white noise

>>18962487
The talmud

>>18972560
Im going to Canters for breakfast this Friday morning

>>18970457
very good post, thank you. Here’s Chris Langan putting it all in a way I find extremely enlightening and well-written. You don’t have to fully agree with Langan to admit he’s at least a very good wordsmith at times, and a very learned polymathic autodidact.

>>18973054
>I’m a little crazier, more speculative, and out there, so I just think the virus came from the Wuhan lab deliberately, is being used to institute martial law and create a totalitarian police/surveillance state, and then reduce the population with the vaccines and booster shots (so as to “solve overpopulation,” resource depletion, kill the useless eaters and the like). I think this’ll eventually get somewhat obvious
I just think that theory would require evil overlords who are smart and well coordinated. I can get behind evil overlords, but humans are so rarely smart or well coordinated that I don't think that they could have pulled off the plan. Most stuff is stupid and evil. I could get behind the lab leak if it was a dumbass intern who ate bat virus samples instead of his lunch, but a highly organized power grab? Lol no. Humans are stupid.

>>18974623
If it can be thought up by 60iq /pol/tards, why couldn't a 160iq billionaire?

>>18975477
there's many a slip twixt the cup and the lip

>>18975477
Because 60 iq retards don't have the kind of coke money and open tab at sports vehicle dealerships that billionaires do. If you had billions and could spend it on a) making some JG Ballard live action remake global conspiracy, or, b) getting paranoid off your homemade pharmaceutical lab in Belize, the only reason you choose Ballard is because you're a midwit 100+/- one standard deviation iq /lit/ reader, and not someone 160iq and minted like John McAfee. Even the Saudi rich that can squash billionaires spend more of their time beating women in drug psychoses and shooting camels and journalists than they do bothering with global affairs.

>>18962546

>>18973054
>I’m a little crazier, more speculative, and out there, so I just think the virus came from the Wuhan lab deliberately, is being used to institute martial law and create a totalitarian police/surveillance state, and then reduce the population with the vaccines and booster shots
I agree with that, but I honestly cannot tell if the jab is being used to test new technologies or depopulation. If I were to make a guess, I think it's to test new technologies that have some kind of effect with 5G. It's not a conspiracy that people can be identified by heartbeat, and the "vaccine" does have metallic particles in it. I think they're just testing out new surveillance technologies, but there is a big chance it can kill you given its experimental nature.
I doubt corona even exists.

>>18968898
>terrorist attacks from islamists and nazis
there hasnt been any "nazi" terrorist attacks

>>18964398
i agree about the nordic countries but it wouldnt work here because we have to babysit blacks

>>18974457
this he needs to read more work by POJ (people of jewishness)

>>18974537
>>18970457
all true
now realize that capitalism alone will always be monopoly capitalism
then we can think alternatives

>>18968898
I repeat, there is no Mens Rea, so it shouldn't be a crime.
If they could prove he had the intent to use the material, use it as promotional material for criminal activities, or even just distribute it to people who expressed the wish to use it in criminal activities, then we could speak. Otherwise it is purely an abuse of the principle of the Law.
And yes, I know that there are many cases where the Mens Rea is immaterial, but it is at least hypothetically defined or present. You should always be able to say that a crime has a factual and an mental component, even if you add the specification that for this or that reason, the court doesn't care about the mental component in its prosecution. A material fact alone should never be a crime.

>>18977656
Maybe I am naive but I imagine that he was preparing something or at least mentioning the he wished to do violence and someone from family or friends snitched on him. If Islamic terrorists don't get caught although they are "known to the authorities" for being in contact with terrorist cells, he must've been preparing something or openly acted as if he was.
On the other hand, everything is possible in the Clown World.

>>18977693
Islamic terrorists don't get caught because hordes of liberals would wail about Islamophobia if a potential Islamic terrorist was arrested. In short, you have to do something really alarming to get in trouble as an Islamist, while natives will be in danger for reading the wrong stuff.

>>18977722
Yeah it really does make more sense this way. The more unpleasant implication of this is that this pattern all points to the usual slippery slope where all dissent is criminalized. I think in the span of 10 years we'll finally manage to criminalize unhappiness.

>>18977693
>that he was preparing something
Then the prosecution should prove that and he shouldn't get just a slap on the wrist. *If* he was preparing something violent, instead of being a fucking weirdo who hasn't found /k/ yet, then you won't solve shit with this sentence. Shaming sentences are usually used for people who scam old folks, not for someone preparing to blow up the parliament.

>>18977848
He literally got jailed for possession of books and nothing else? Were the books legal to own? As retarded as this sounds this would at least give grounds to why he was arrested. I don't really know if the are books that are illegal to own in general. I assume the bomb stuff is?
I don't understand this world sometimes. It feels like everything is rigged. It must be rigged to steer people in a specific direction. Otherwise I have no idea.

>>18977884
The Anarchist Cookbook, Kill or get killed and Put 'Em Down. Take 'Em Out, knife fighting techniques from Folsom Prison are still banned in the UK for "containing material useful to terrorists".

>>18962487
my diary dosu

>>18977917
>banned means illegal to own
had no idea. I thought this only affected publishers

>>18962835
>there is a very high chance that the communists take over America soon

>>18978124
Usually that's how it is, unless there is a Gestapo running around trying to round up copies. When Lord Horror was banned, the Judge simply ordered all copies in stock destroyed and no reprints to be made, he didn't hunt down the book's owners. In France the only illegal book I know of is a guide to suicide, ownership is not in itself going to be prosecuted, but distribution will be.
But this is done under the Terrorism Act, which means they don't have to follow their own rules anyhow.

>>18978191
You guys keep posting snide remarks and memes, but no one can refute the danger we are in from the communists. China and internal communists both pose massive threats.

>>18962487
Wasn't this guy studying criminology? A student downloading this sort of stuff seems totally reasonable.

>>18962835
Fresh new pasta, based

>>18972438
>>18973480
>>18973514
idiots

>>18962752
And the same people then claim Trump is a fascist.... Europe really is an authoritarian hellhole, isn't it?

>>18978537
>Europe
England isn't Europe.

>>18978537
Why would you need to ban books in a society of illiterate? They just do what they already do, ban them from schools.

>>18978541
Brexit didn’t work. You didn’t get any closer to Canada