/lit/ - Literature

Read Lingua Latina per se ilustrata.

>>18964978
This book is r*ddit. Memorize declensions (http://www.irmer-inrete.de/latein/dekl.htm)), memorize verb endings (the subjective mood is recognizable by regular vowel changes, as in Sanskrit, Greek and even English, as it happens, i.e. was >< were). As an Anglo you have a fear bit of Latin vocabulary in your mind already. Read the Vulgate by Jerome with a translation, same with the fables of Hyginus, then finally move on to shorter orations of Cicero with commentaries. Good luck.

>>18964978
Thanks. This egg nigga is annoying but all of the (important) books he talks about are available on zlib.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oJctKy_r6s&list=PLU1WuLg45SiyrXahjvFahDuA060P487pV&index=73

Learn to Read Latin by Keller & Russel.
This is the book I used in college. It's a really methodical book that teaches you all the intricacies and constructions the Romans used. You wont learn how to fluently speak Latin, nobody today really does, but you'll be able to read Cicero, Ovid, or any other piece of authentic Latin. Get the workbook too if you're really serious about it. The textbook has lots of real samples to read at any level you're at. Poetry, speeches, and historical documents, this prepares you for it all.

>>18965055
> practicing reading on simple texts is le bad

>>18965377
> practicing reading on simple texts is le bad
Yes

>>18965377
Yes and no. LLPSI is what you do if you want to learn to read and speak Latin. When Latin collapsed into Romance, the vocabulary stayed the same, and everyone would just pronounce Latin according to their own language's phonology, but the grammar had obviously changed, so all you had to do to learn Latin at this time (around 1000AD) was crank out conjugation and declension while speaking to people in Latin (which is what LLPSI is). This method continued up to the fall of Nazi Germany, which was essentially the last state to use Latin in any kind of regular occurrence (in German academia; it was replaced by German during Allied occupation).

Today, people like >>18965055 suggest this because this is what's done in Anglo academia, which doesn't really care if you can read or write or speak Latin, just that you can produce papers. To that end, you have to be able to dissect Latin sentences, but you don't actually have to be able to read Latin because all you need to be able to do is pick apart Latin so you can sprinkle a few phrases in your paper about why the Gracchi Brothers were actually proto-Feminist Latinx Communists of Colour. Most Classics departments absolutely forbid original composition in order to prevent people from contaminating the language, as anything new written in it could be mistaken for something old, and the language only exists to be dissected by academics (as far as academics are concerned).

So, yes, he's absolutely correct, that's what you should do if you want to learn to dissect Latin. If you want to actually read it, no, you start with LLPSI while doing spaced repetition on vocabulary and grammar while using another text to understand said grammar as LLPSI recommends doing.

>>18965055
Which short oration by Cicero and with whose commentary (preferably available online) would you recommend? All of the orations seem huge and overcomplicated, and I know no trustworthy commentators. This is precisely what I was considering a couple of days ago, crazy

>>18965556
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/collection?collection=Perseus%3Acorpus%3Aperseus%2Cauthor%2CCicero All his works are available on Perseus, many with an English translation. You can also click on each word in the Latin text and it is parsed for you, i.e. you are shown the gender, number, case etc. Start with Pro Archia poeta, as it's relatively shorter than the rest and not as complex as his earlier orations, which are logically more inclined to the ornate, Asianic style of his youth. Bona fortuna tibi esto! >>18965544 In German academia, I can attest that Latin prose exercises are still required, two levels for the bachelor degree, one more for the master. You have the option to write your thesis in Latin, if you wish. Anglo "academia" is predictably garbage

>>18965597
Thank you, anon!

>>18965641
Anything for you, kind stranger!