/lit/ - Literature

>>18961576
Because he's the wrong kind of right wing - a liberal (which the Americans call conservative for some reason).

>>18961576
Because like all other modern rightoids, he is a retarded slave to Mammon, who would sooner see the entire population of his country doing accountancy and programming, than he would see them cherish, nurture and appreciate the legacy of western culture.

I hate all rightoids equally, because they fundamentally are merchants. They see the ills of capitalism, calls it globohomo, and then insist that Real Capitalism hasn't been tried. They are the lowest form of scum and the highest order of traitors.

>>18961595
The last argument of the Misestard is that central bank fiat currency is so good of a monetary system that it'll trigger another Tower of Babel scenario and invoke the wrath of God?

>>18961595
>They see the ills of capitalism, calls it globohomo
No, that's just internet righties. Just like internet lefties, they are not an accurate representation of people of their political affiliation irl.

>>18961595
>I hate all rightoids equally, because they fundamentally are merchants. They see the ills of capitalism, calls it globohomo, and then insist that Real Capitalism hasn't been tried. They are the lowest form of scum and the highest order of traitors.
Agree. The true marker for civilization is unambiguous contempt towards one's merchant class.

>>18961650
Absolutely. This is why I could never get on the Trump train.

>>18961650
>>18961657
I dare you to make a screw without buying anything with money.

He's based and says things so painfully true that it's sad that him saying them is considered revolutionary

>>18961650
Real capitalism has been tried and it worked brilliantly. Look up the Icelandic Commonwealth. What we have today isn't capitalism. Under capitalism, a failing bank would fail and it's competitors would step in, not the government.

>>18961576
Because /lit/ has seen an influx of users from places such as r*ddit where the left wing lenience is the norm in its subcommunities. While there is nothing wrong with being a leftist and/or believing in leftism, it is important to note that this is the same group of people that sadly has complete idiots such as tankies on their side. There will always be a subset of people that refuse to have their beliefs challenged and questioned. Be it political beliefs, religious, social, economical, etc.
Sowell argues against most of the talking points that leftists use and, unlike 90% of rightwingers, he does so in an intelligent manner and providing proof that backs up his claims, something that many close-minded people just cannot stand and therefore everything he says must be wrong in one way or another not because he err the facts, but because the leftist does not want to have his or her ideals challenged in an intelligent manner rather than the usual flamewar that the leftist is used to and prepared for.

>>18961660
Merchants are necessary - I never claimed otherwise. What I am revolted by is the veneration of them as gods, and the insistence that all the powers of human spirit should be directed towards market growth - which is the common factor in all rightoids, regardless of whether or not they pay LARPy lip service to ideals, values and a legacy they do not care about in the slightest in action.

>>18961650
A Civilization is only truly born when a merchant class emerges. Everything before that is just Paleolithic caveman shit.

>>18961709
>What we have today isn't capitalism
>he actually fucking did it
>Not Real Capitalism™
Actually, real communism has never been tried. The soviet bloc wasn't communism. Real communism happened in this forgotten Andalusian commune from November 1989 to February 1990.

>>18961721
>What I am revolted by is the veneration of them as gods
Can you please show me an example of this happening? Is there some Jeff Bezoz cult I'm not aware of?

real anything has never been tried. humanity has only had centrism, forever. even monarchies and empires were in actuality just oligarchies, and even today the system is an oligarchy, from the US to North Korea. Politics is interpreting the same pile of dung as slightly different dung. AAAAAAA

>>18961739
>please show an example of the veneration of merchants
>is there a cult around the fact that the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world are merchants?
Proof is in the pudding mate.

>>18961709
Capitalism is inherently unstable. It always reforms or collapses into new systems that eliminate the free market.

>>18961756
post the pudding then jackass

>>18961753
trivial, since necessarily every ruling class will try to preserve its rule, the center just shifts.

>>18961756
>make a nonsensical claim with nothing to back it up
>refuse to elaborate any further
See, this is why I just can't stand most internet leftists. Even when one opens the door and tries to have legitimate, civil discussion about politics the answer is almost always "come on duuude open your eyes!" or "you are a fascist and you deserve to die!"

>>18961766
I don't think so. It grows increasingly diseased and depraved with every crisis, but it has so far managed to live on despite being singularly abhorrent to human life.

>>18961772
Here's a hint, faggot: "the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world are merchants".

Now do they have military power? Do they have direct political power? Why oh why might it be that merchants are so influential then? Might it have something to do with being a retarded slave to Mammon?

>>18961777
I'm not a leftist Mr. Directionbrain, and the fact that you assume so from any critique of rightoids means you're too dumb. I don't care about the rest of your trite "le metadiscussion" thought-terminating clichés.

>>18961810
If this is bait, its a terrible bait.
If this is real, please go back to twitter.

>>18961823
>hurr
>durr
Great retort faggotron

>>18961810
>t. le totally not right-wing 3rd pos (piece of shit)

>>18961858
Legitimately, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>18961595
>calls it globohomo
>then insist that Real Capitalism hasn't been tried
Such a person doesn't exist. If you're using "globohomo" you're a fascist, which means you take art and culture very seriously.

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>>18961576
> Looking at the world it's obvious Social Democracy is the most successful system tried so far
> any step towards social democracy is GOBBUNISM

He's just a typical seppo drooler. We seriously need either yanks to internalize that they're barely above shallow beasts, or a complete annihilation of the Americans.

Because /lit/ is racist

Because he is literally a nobody within economic circles. Anyone who has studied economics would know that this guy is literally just some random academic who is famous for his opinions and books instead of actual research. He is legit the Neil Degrasse Tyson of his field and it is embarrassing to suggest reading him to "get a start" with economics. That's why I hate him.

>>18961583
>America is founded on classical liberal ideas (at least after the Federalists we're BTFO)
>People who want to preserve the original classical liberal society are called conservative

What's not to get?

Because libtards are soft cunts who get triggered by men who emit high testosterone like Sowell.

>>18962038
this is correct although that doesn't mean he's a bad writer. i get the impression i'm the only one in this thread to have actually read any books by him given that the discussion in this thread references them not at all. his book on marxism is just based on his doctoral dissertation and isn't particularly readable. his essay collections are some of the finest boomercon prose ever written, but they have little to say to the present moment because they were written for a different epoch which faced different struggles. just as nothing can stop an idea whose time has come, nothing can save an idea whose time is spent.

>>18961595
>I hate all rightoids equally, because they fundamentally are merchants
What's wrong with being a merchant. You commies seem to despise all honest work.

>>18961576
Because he says unconvenient truths.

>>18962038
What does "actual research" look like for economics?

the average /lit/izen is destitute and envious of his social betters

Because he actually understands economics unlike /lit/

>>18962038
He is a serious economist. He is just old now so doesn't publish anything. He appears here in Milton Friedman's show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z6YTyvCxRY

>>18963529
he never published anything. chimping out on pbs isn't publishing.
>>18963499
writing some new theoretical paper describing a novel concept or augmenting an existing one or writing an empirical paper analyzing data against some existing theory. writing syndicated columns about why socialism is not research.

>>18963514
>he understands speculative sociology that is not a real predictive science by even the most lax epistemic standards imaginable
Bravo, almost as impressive as having a doctorate in dance therapy.

>>18963905
*about why socialism is bad

>>18961650
very confusian pilled.

>>18961595
>and then insist that Real Capitalism hasn't been tried
This makes no sense, no one suggests this, this is your cope and cowardliness showing for realizing that the right wing has a legitimate argument against Globohomo but you are too indoctrinated and cowardly to go along with them so you create some fake and irrational argument why you can’t lol. What a joke you are faggot

>>18963499
There are no repeatable experiments you can do in economics, it's not a real science. The most you can do is look at lots of data, which Sowell always actually did. He was just ignored because he's not a shitlib keynesian like most in the profession.

>>18962038
This is not true. I’m working on a PhD in Econ. He is regarded as legit but ignored because he doesn’t go along with the Neoliberal policy and religion that rationalizes it. You are just out and out lying and clearly have no connection to the Econ world.

>>18964028
alright, then tell me what your favorite thomas sowell research paper is. you could really bolster your argument by telling me what his h-index is (hint: your adviser has a higher one).

>>18964028
I’ll add he is not an important figure within Econ but what he has done is respected if not ignored because of his opinions.

>>18964041
SEE
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>>18964041
You're definitely on solid ground here, everyone knows these are the decisive factors in truth.

>>18964052
they're the decisive factors in whether or not someone is regarded as legit within a field, which is the claim that was made.

>>18964056
Thank you for admitting you don't care about anything besides credentialism. Intelligent people are now free to disregard your opinions.

>>18964056
>which is the claim that was made.
No. OP asks why he makes someone like you seethe, to which you use circular logic in your unyielding butthurt and seethe.

>>18964067
then intelligent people should just say they like sowell's work (although i still have yet to see any evidence that any posters in this thread besides myself have read him) instead of claiming that he has an impressive research record.

>>18964078
Kek

>>18961576
He completely rejects the core tenets of woke leftists and larping fascists with clear, evidence based arguments

>>18964102
While being black, which is very inconvenient.

>>18964081
You literal don’t have to read him if you are an NPC leftcuck basedboy. Knowing that he is black and presents decent arguments against your fake and gay jewish religion is enough to call him an Uncle Tom then go scurrying away to your self rationalizing academic circle jerk based on “research” with a replication rate of around 30% lol

>>18964125
how do you know he presents decent arguments against anything if you haven't read him?

>>18961595
Holy based SPBP

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>>18964152
Nice hand faggot

>>18964146
It doesn’t even make sense. Leftism hates the West and looks to destroy it through leveling the playing field by bringing everyone down to the level of the common negro ie the dirt. Fascism exalts Western achievements to mythic proportions and looks to cast out anyone who doesn’t aspire to such a world.

>>18964182
Nice argument jewtruster