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The Mystery of the Grail was fine.

>> No.18949446

nigger farts

>> No.18949448

>>18949444
>it's real
based

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>>18949444
Never read him. Thought he was a meme. Which is the best to start with?

>> No.18949569

>>18949444
Teoria dell'Individuo assoluto

>> No.18949750

>>18949537
Revolt

>> No.18949811

Ride le tiger hehe :3 gotta go fast

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>>18949811

>> No.18949852

>>18949569
That’s early (idealist) Evola though. Didn’t he denounce his younger idealist self?

>> No.18949924

>>18949852
yes and he was wrong

>> No.18951213

>>18949852
Where did he denounce Teoria e Fenomenologia dell'individuo assoluto? I've read most of his books, and the closest thing I remember is where he explains that TEFDIA is the best he could do to give an explanation of initiation in terms of a philosophical theory using the lingo of that time, and to go beyond that one must necessarily go beyond discursive reasoning and start to practice.

>> No.18951235

Revolt Against the Modern World is sort of his magnum opus and the key to the rest of his books, but Ride the Tiger is probably his most relevant book to any one particular reader.

>> No.18951244

>>18949852
>>18951213
No, he didn’t denounce it. In fact, if you read his earlier idealist writing you can see how it flows into everything that came after. What he did do is distance himself from particular aspects of that phase and also from philosophy as a project in general, or so he says. The idea was that to even engage with idealist philosophy would’ve been to undermine what he ended up trying to do, even if certain ideas remain constant from one phase to the other.

>> No.18951259

>>18949537
don't.

>> No.18951296

>>18951244
His problem was that idealist philosophy was too narrow-minded and wasn't capable of leading anyone to higher horizons. His original goal was to formulate the end-point of idealism which allowed one to ascend back to traditional truths (as a kind of bridge between academic philosophy and traditional truth), through the realization of the flaws of all philosophy (both idealist and realist) prior to his new doctrine. He decided this project was worthless because academic philosophy did not contain anyone seeking higher horizons, only narrow, limited and ultimately meaningless (in a higher sense) "scholarly" problems like the "problem of universals", "free will", qualia, the obsession with "absolute morals", etc., all of which were naturally considered non-issues by traditional schools.

>> No.18951352

>>18949444
I(Guenon fan) did not enjoy the vast majority of Evola's work.

>> No.18951373

Evola is trash, even a racist like me can see that

>> No.18951377

>>18951373
When I was 16 and 100% of the politics came from fashwave edits of WW2 footage I thought people who read Evola were literally the smartest people in the world, I now know they are just midwits.

>> No.18951427

The amount of passive aggressive seething in these threads is really reason enough to read him

>> No.18951436

What the hell was up with his Dadaism?

>> No.18951518

>>18951377
>When I was 16 and 100% of the politics came from fashwave edits of WW2 footage

If this stuff existed when you were 16, you are still a child.

>> No.18951585

>>18951296
Yeah, but then he turned to this sort of Nietzschean philosophy, which was also largely a failure in the end. Still, he never denounces it.

>> No.18951592

>>18951436
He was very concerned with “shocking the bourgeois” and that’s basically how he saw Dadaism. It was a form of self expression for him, but even more so, it was just a way of mocking the society around him as he saw it. He never abandoned that obsession with being “anti-bourgeois” and I think it was to his detriment personally.

>> No.18951607

>>18949444
Evola is for coping midwits, which explains why he's so discussed here.

>> No.18951608

>>18951352
Same, he is too much of a philosophyfag and not advaita-pilled.

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>>18949444
>>18949537

>> No.18951766

>>18951592
He also viewed avant-garde art as a means of de-conditioning consciousness.
>>18951608
His philosophical literacy is precisely what makes him an engaging, lucid writer. Most esoteric authors can't explain anything for shit and it fucks the whole thing up.

>> No.18951786

>>18951766
>He also viewed avant-garde art as a means of de-conditioning consciousness.
Yeah, well he also seemed to think that you could appropriate and justify just about anything if you really wanted to and in fact many of his ideas are not necessarily made up but appropriated as necessary and this too is in align with his early philosophy if you go into it deep enough. A lot of his whole project was expressive and creative and so he could say whatever he wanted to say, whether it was true or not. It’s not even clear if he believed in truth.

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>>18949444
I don't agree with Evola on anything but I know that he's not just a meme.

>> No.18951974

>>18951786
Dada's nihilism, absolute negation or abstraction of self (Evola was also considering suicide) as a crisis for transformation is absolutely a relevant event. Read "La parole obscure du paysage intérieur."

>> No.18952119

>>18951766
>His philosophical literacy is precisely what makes him an engaging, lucid writer. Most esoteric authors can't explain anything for shit and it fucks the whole thing up.
This is because philosophy made you narrow minded, you can't understand anything which is of a different order. You can believe whatever you want but this is the truth.

>> No.18952169

>>18951427
yeah, lit-pseuds seethe so much at Evola that it's concerning

>> No.18952439

>>18951427
>The amount of passive aggressive seething in these threads is really reason enough to read him
le quirky contrarian snowflake xddd

>> No.18952450

>>18952169
Evola is a charlatan.

>> No.18952475

>>18952119
On the contrary; I am a philosophy pleb. I have read next to none.
Who I am comparing him to are other occult authors whose inability to correctly articulate their subject can, will, and has led to severe dis-orientations of the most grave kind, i.e. counter-initiation.
For me, he was the first author that I read on the subject who even believed in transcendence; up until that point all I could get my hands on was "create your own reality, bro" level garbage.

>> No.18953326

>>18951815
Based pic.

>> No.18953334

>>18951671
yeah I'm just going to read the his Wikipedia page and call it a day

>> No.18953367

>>18953334
Missed this? >>18951815

>> No.18953490

Reading Evola gives me a certain aesthetic impression that’s like ancient and mythological, magical. I don’t know if he’s right. I’m not sure if I care. It just feels cool.

>> No.18953673

>>18949448
>it actually is real
lmao

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>>18949444

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNXObwyVnR8

>> No.18953968

>>18949444
Asian Girlfriend can really be memed into doing whatever for their whiteboy.

>> No.18953982

>reading with the dust jacket on

>> No.18954026

>>18951518
I'm in my mid-20s, fashwave existed in the early-mid 2010s