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What's the most original concept of "God" ever explored in literature. For example, see the phenomenology of the evolution of "God" in history, going from vulgar animism to archetypal members of a pantheon (Hellenism/Vedism) to a single prime-mover to an immanent substance (spinoza, vedanta) to a universal principle (daoism, buddhism). notice how god changes yet constantly remains an epistemic principle, an ultimate explanation for being and object of knowledge? can god be finally revealed as the never ending search for an explanation of why there is something rather than nothing, and our subject's relation to the objective world?

>> No.18947964

God IS originality, origin, etc.

>> No.18947989

>>18947926
>can god be finally revealed as the never ending search for an explanation of why there is something rather than nothing, and our subject's relation to the objective world?
No, this is gay, God is real and exists independently of human theorizing

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>> No.18948009

>>18947926
we ARE god... the godhead... people think consciousness ends at human beings because they are faggots

some based boy fagbags who make sumersault excuses "le ants are soooo mentally inferior to us because they cant perceive our existence!!!!"
>still believes humans are the peak variant of consciousness

>> No.18948029

>>18947989
>No, this is gay, God is real and exists independently of human theorizing
anon, explain how a real thing or an event can have an explanation that is non-real.

>> No.18948037

>>18947964
Yes, I suppose that would be the most original form of God, a priori

>> No.18948040

>>18948009
Retard.

>> No.18948045

White bitches. You know, me and the primary nigga Shadbolt dixie were trying to get hilt deep in ivory puss, ayo, but come (and cum if you get my sheit nigga) down to the club, and that amateur nigger, Sly didley, considered himself hot shit cause he got himself a new Deville, was up on this white piece of panko taliapia. Dixie and sly had it out right there, nihger pulled the 9, but Dixie had him beat with his knife with the little pinwheel on the end, just a pinwheel maybe? he greased it up in chucked oil to make the shit stab better—boom sly is down, Yellin, "aww nigga you done kill me," and he died right there, shiet.
So Dixie and me take this bitch to the hotel and go freshen up with talc and baby oil, ready for some ivory hole, and I come out and Dixie is succin a white cock. I guess it was one o dem Chapelle transexuals, shit. dixie was working that white shaft, and havin a hell of a time, and I yell, "ain't suckin no honkey dick," and I tried to look away but couldn't. one think leads to another after a little more baby powder and im down there givin it to this cumskin cracker, and im loving it. It's so smooth and tasty, like meaty popstickle with a tasty wrapper. reminded me of that time Donald Rumsfeld shat out a starfish

>> No.18948942

>>18947926
God is the founder of will. He endows things with wills through delegation. He still is personal and fully real like always, and self-revelatory through being the Word/Logos and so on. But his principle way of expressing his own infinity is the determination of spaces where in volition is possible for his creatures. He craft's choices which you can decide on, thrusts you into moral dilemmas as to allow you willfully become his.
Basically volition cannot come from arbitrariness, for where that so, the willfull agent would be purely illusory and only an appendix of nature that fooled himself into thinking he is distinct, and he wouldn't be willfull at all. Only a will can restrain itself, as to allow for the space for a distinct other will to emerge, and in so doing affirm itself(for restraint is the nature of will). Thus the origins of us humans must be volitional or we are have to deny our own abbillity to will and interact with an external world. Volition can only come from other volition. Decision is delegated from above. And God makes it so that our decisions always end up achieving his will, whether we want to or not. But to not want to do his will, that is hell, that is being a slave. Therefore anon, affirm God and affirm your power to choose what is right even if it is difficult. The alternative is slavery to passion and an unwillfull sleepwalking life of netflix, wine and hentai who's hellishness only increases after death.

>> No.18949014
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18949014

>>18947926
>spinoza, vedanta
>Hellenism
>Vedism
>daoism
>buddhism
>evolution
>never ending search

>> No.18949570

>>18947926
Teilhardism.

>> No.18949857

>>18948029
>anon, explain how a real thing or an event can have an explanation that is non-real.
Did I say the explanation was non-real? No. If people happen to arrive at the correct explanation either via revealed scripture or inference, then the explanation can be true even if God’s existence is independent of and
prior to our explanation of Him

>> No.18949876

>>18947926
god is a slime-mold

>> No.18950194

>>18949857
you fail to understand what i mean. explanations are not purely cognitive things in themselves they rely on real things to be a proper and accurate "explanation" in the first place. if our apprehension of being is ever evolving and changing with our understanding then the nature of god changes with it too, because god is whatever the "final" explanation is, at whatever point in the dialectical progress of knowledge. quit being a christcuck who seethes at the idea that god isn't a personal being

>> No.18951081

>>18947989
>God is real and exists independently of human theorizing
kek

>> No.18951228

>>18947926
>immanent substance (spinoza, vedanta)
God is immanent in Vishishtadvaita and in certain kinds of Shaivism, but God is truly transcendent in Advaita. For Advaita at most you can say is God is both immanent and transcendent, but in this case the immanence here is only relative and incidental, not ultimately valid while the transcendence is unconditionally valid.
>>18950194
>if our apprehension of being is ever evolving and changing with our understanding then the nature of god changes with it too, because god is whatever the "final" explanation is, at whatever point in the dialectical progress of knowledge.
Different conceptions of God arising in different regions of the world is not the same as the conception of God within a single tradition changing, you seem to be equating the two. In cases like Hindu theology for example, many of the schools would say that their doctrine and scriptural interpretation IS the meaning of the Vedas and Upanishads and that it had always been that way, that their doctrine has never changed, that it has always been true. Even when these schools can be placed at a certain historical time they would regard these as just the incidental circumstances connected with a school arriving at the correct exegesis of what the scriptures had always taught even before that school organized itself. And God’s nature is timeless and unchanging, if people are arriving at a conception of God through dialectical progress, that doesn’t mean God’s nature is changing too because God’s nature is not created by human knowledge, that is backwards as humans like all creatures and human knowledge come from God and are predicated upon Him as the pre-existing reality. Humans through reasoning may eliminate former wrong views to arrive at what had always been the truth all along, but God and His nature does not change based on anything else, thinking that it does makes God into a fictional entity of our own creation.

>quit being a christcuck who seethes at the idea that god isn't a personal being
I’m not, you shouldnt be so quick to assume or disrespect others views so casually if you are trying to have a serious conversation

>> No.18951572

>>18949570
Lol

>> No.18951584

>>18948009
This is shirk, repent.

>> No.18951628

>>18947926
There is an answer to the question of why there is something other than nothing and it has to do with Hegel, sacred geometry, ontological mathematics, Pythagoreanism, Neoplatonism, etc.