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18926258 No.18926258 [Reply] [Original]

What did he mean by this?

>> No.18926276

he meant OP is a faggot

>> No.18926295

>>18926258
Think of the effect science, rationality and the modern obsession with efficiency has had in architecture, spirituality, etc. you end up with the burgerpunk aesthetic.

>> No.18926369

>>18926258
Art as an expression of the Apollonian drive to mask, cover up the harshness of reality, making it more bearable. Art as a form of falsehood.

>> No.18926503

>>18926258
Truth in excess is actually bad for you and bad for society. Sometimes untruth is necessary for the furtherance of life, and art is untruth.

>> No.18926517

>>18926258
Life is suffering, and art translates the ideal, that we may contemplate the beauty within suffering.

>> No.18926533

>>18926369
/thread

the original quote wasn't that dense, OP...

>> No.18927245

He meant that art serves to elevate the human to the divine, but the divine doesn’t actually exist. So basically, art is a way of making life more than life, or pretending there’s something more to life and making it feel real, even though it’s not. For Nietzsche, man could still live for art in the world where God is dead so rather than ask oneself the question “is this good”, he thought one should ask “is this beautiful”.

>> No.18927249

>>18926258
There is no truth and art is crap. Die.

>> No.18927705

he meant that art is copium

>> No.18927745

Read chapter 9 of Notes from Underground

>> No.18927749

>>18927745
>read Dostoshitsky
No

>> No.18927767

>>18926258
the rising sublimity of consciousness in the face of industrialized globalism's dawn? the mass breeding of the underclass to provide labor for the globalist regime? what are you stupid or something you really dont know what he's talking about?

>> No.18928544

>>18927249
bro, ur literally on lit there's no way you think art itself is crap

>> No.18928568
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>>18926258
We have art as a surrogate for the truth which we are too weak to attain.

>> No.18928736

>>18926258
He meant that enjoying beauty is the only thing stopping one from going full Schopenhauer. In short: cope or rope.

>> No.18928755

All art can fall into one (or more) of three categories: escapism, propaganda, or fraud

>> No.18928776

>>18926258
Truth = everything is meaningless
Art = giving meaning to meaningless to avoid the illusion of ending the illusion

>> No.18928912

>>18928776
If meaning exists then everything cannot by definition be meaningless. Plato wins again. Beauty is the Good/Truth.

>> No.18928937

>>18926369
on the contrary one could see art as what life should be and use it to guide us

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>>18928912
>the superior warrior
>the superior philosopher
No wonder he made Nietzsche seethe so hard

>> No.18928965

>>18928755
Define "fraud"

>> No.18928991
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18928991

hyacinthus killed by zephyrus

>> No.18928997

He meant to say something quotable for information behavers in the future to grovel over.

>> No.18930031

>>18926369
>>18926517
These are correct.

>> No.18930115

>>18926258

On the contrary, music, for example, is a skeleton key for the most abstract Theology. That music theory Mathematically organizes tonality but not rhythm and volume is an insight of tremendous importance.

>> No.18930148

>>18930115
>Theology
Like metaphysics in general, this is a form of art, not truth. Truth without art is an abyss.

>> No.18930152

>>18926258
Art is a cope.

>> No.18930185

>>18930152
Living itself is a giant cope. Attainment of truth is just as big a cope as art, if nihilism is correct

>> No.18930460

BEAUTY IS TRUTH, TRUTH BEAUTY, that is all ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
Just as truth, beauty comprehends all, including the crude aspects of reality, there is no distinction between them. In this way art is a simulacrum of the Absolute which is beauty, truth.