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ITT: Philosophers who were wrong about everything

>> No.18903777

Everyone besides Plato

>> No.18903870

>>18903777
A contradiction

>> No.18903876

>>18903775
Each day that passes I recognize in which ways Nietzsche was right.

>> No.18903984

>>18903775
Are you aware that this thread unironically makes his point, right? You are probably a Nietzschean shilling his shit.

>> No.18904001

>>18903775
Go ahead Im waiting for one

>> No.18904021 [SPOILER] 
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>>18903775
All of them. It’s a nonsense field devoid of meaning or insight.

>> No.18904026

>>18903775
Alright you first

>> No.18904050

>>18903984
>if you are wrong
>you are right
So THIS is the power of the will to power.

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>> No.18904264

>>18904021
So Camus was right.

>> No.18904276

>>18903775
Ok, start with one

>> No.18904486

>>18903775
Bertrand Russell

>> No.18904557

>>18904050
Radical Perspectivism, anon. You are recognizing his point and trying to make a stand against it. This is exactly what he wanted, Nietzsche would probably be the first big bait in Philosophy, he was a genius who baited his way into the History of Philosophy, and you just got baited by him. He thought some cool stuff, but the fact that you are not even aware of it, and think that it has anything to do with will to power just show the how good his bait is. He basically triggered everyone, and calling him dynamite is definitely not an overstatement.

>> No.18904576

>>18904557
This is what Rand tried to pull off btw.

>> No.18904605

>>18903775
Every stoicuck

>> No.18904677

>>18904557
Cringe

>> No.18904708

>>18903775
ok you first

>> No.18904713

>>18904677
Yes, you got played by Nietzsche. This should be somewhat obvious and that is why I thought you were a Nietzschean shilling his shit.

>> No.18904758

>>18904557
Elaborate on what you mean by bait, because the way i see it now, every philosophical system is a bait since they can't be proven as solid theories. We can downplay all of them as mumbo jumbo that appeal to the retards who convinced themselves through reading they will be better.
I really want to know how full of shit you are when you call ONE system bait and ignore all the others.

>> No.18904779

>>18904758
Use your dialectics pseud, i will be here for less than 30 minutes before i head out. Going to take a shower, please relieve my pains when i come back, otherwise i will go out and think of you and end in the conclusion that if i ever meet a stranger, that says some similar shit to yours i will think of him as you and probably punch him.

>> No.18904810

>>18904779
Not him, but post body rn.

>> No.18904869

>>18904758
I'm >>18904557 and consider the differences between Nietzsche and Kierkegaard. If you are not aware, Kierkegaard usually answers Hegel, Nietzsche gets back to Socrates/Plato, notice the difference in the pattern that philosophers had until now. Nietzsche proposes a rupture in the whole History of Philosophy, I don't think anyone tried that (at least they didn't got into History). He had Existentialism to back him out on it, so that is where his genius comes in.
He made himself hard to ignore, anon. Literally the most juicy bait ever, because he took away what Philosophy is supposed to be about (truth). Consider 4chan baits, imagine the best ones, sum them all together, that is basically Nietzsche on Philosophy (I'm not saying that his ideas aren't worth anything, just pointing out how they relate to the whole thing in general. This doesn't make him better or worse, at least on my understanding).

>> No.18904907

>>18904810
when i come back, i got 7 minutes left and the tard replied.
>>18904869
You are already wrong friend here is why.
>he took away what Philosophy is supposed to be about (truth)
That's what philosophy was about, but in case you are familliar with 20th and 21st centuries philosophy, it stems out of a question that Nietzsche could claim ownership rights. I am going mostly with Russel, Whitehead and Wittgenstein, but here is the question, What is the value that we recognise in our values and how valuable can truth be if we haven't found it already. That's a poor way to put it but i am ESl and in a rush. Philosophy is philosophy when it has the ability to question even its ownself, otherwise it is dogmatism. Didn't read the rest of your post because i have 7 minutes to shave.
But i am willing to be late to tell you this, i will make you a character into my diary and shit you even further later, when i am drunk and bored. It would be absolutely a delight to know you will do something similar to me. have a nice day anon and eat your veggies.

>> No.18904919

>>18904810
And why are you such a faggot?

>> No.18904945

>>18904907
What are you talking about? Those came after him, anon. Are you drunk or something? Nietzsche is 19th century Philosophy.
>What is the value that we recognise in our values and how valuable can truth be if we haven't found it already.
What is this supposed to mean?

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This bastard tried to disguise retardness of hist ideas in thousand way and still failed.

>> No.18904982

>>18904919
? How else am I going to assess if someone threatening physical violence on random people on the internet is capable of carrying it out or just being a retard?

>> No.18904986

>>18904966
Herr Hegel was based, apologize.

>> No.18905018

>>18903777
Trips of truth

>> No.18905601
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>>18904966
>t.

>> No.18905615

Unironically Locke

>> No.18905679

>>18903775
Philosophy isn't about right or wrong under a function of truth qua truth, since truth qua truth does not exist except insofar it is present in the first principle which is God and since God is Truth, then we can only evaluate philosophy under the condition by which it accurately speaks of God. In this sense Nietzsche is clearly wrong, not necessarily under the condition of the world, but under the condition of God and so just plain wrong. However it is due to nature of man and his limitations that things can appear correct under the condition of the world but are still absolutely incorrect in truth. This can be shown philosophically but not proven under any form of proof since the lack of absolute proof is the necessary condition of free will which allows man to enter into a co-entanglement between reality and his self. This existential void is not really then a void, but a formless clay from which man sculpts both himself and the reality itself both of which continually restructure themselves in this entanglement. The result of this sculpting then is only visible under divine light to which people awake to ether everlasting shame or glory.

>> No.18906210

>>18904945
>What are you talking about? Those came after him, anon.
How can that confuse you fucking brainlet? Anyway i dont care about your stupid ideas.
Why are asian women so short? I met with a chinese one and she was 1.50, it went good but how can i fuck that loli without damaging my spine for good?

>> No.18906331

>>18906210
A retard, as expected. Is this the power of a triggered Platonist? This is their level of desperation? This ridiculous LARP?

>> No.18906365

>>18906331
Have you ever heard that silence is gold if you have nothing to say? Did it look like i asked for (you)s by virgins? I can't even imagine what your life is like if you consider people going on a date to be a larp. Ask your mom for 30 euros and visit a brothel. Get yourself some syphilis, leave it untreated and become the next Nietzsche.

>> No.18906366
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>>18904966
keked and checked

>> No.18906432

>>18906365
Yes, golden levels of bullshit. In case you haven't noticed, that is how it works on 4chan, you fling shit, you get fucking shit back. Now, get even madder because that is what Platonists deserve. Bigots are triggered, and they are going to explode with their false idols.

>> No.18906450

>>18906365
Get fucked and mad. Please, do me this favor.

>> No.18906502

>>18906432
>that is how it works on 4chan
Rofl newfag why are you trying so hard to fit in?
>4chin is my gank
>these are our rules nigger
>wa chu gna do?
Cringe i guess.

>>18906450
Only if I could understand you monkey, then there was a chance i would do you a favor.

>> No.18906513

>>18904264
>Camu
>philosopher
KEK

>> No.18906577

>>18906502
Crying won't work here, muh silence, you either fling shit or get fucked, mad and stfu. That is how it is. And that is exactly what I want, people like you deserve the worst than that, but that is what I can do through the internet.

>> No.18906596

>>18906502
The point is that you don't get to make the rules, anon. You are the one who didn't get anything. My rules aren't silence is golden, you can follow your rules if you feel like it. I'm rolling with you getting mad and fucked.

>> No.18906623

>>18906502
Are you some butthurt fan of Rand by any chance? I know that there are plenty of closeted fans of hers around here.

>> No.18906705

>>18906577
>>18906596
>>18906623
Just by thinking how much of a shitty life you have lead so far, i cant even get mad with you. I just want you to know that it doesn't get any better, cope all you want for now, pretend as much as you can, in a few hours the sun will rise and your shitty life will be back, shining gold. Meanwhile i will probably have taken the decision that a fucked up spine is worth it and ask the chinese midget to come by at my place.

>> No.18906721

>>18906705
Yes, cry. Got fucked and can't even talk anything that makes sense. I enjoy doing such things, but you are probably sick.

>> No.18906738

>protestantists trying to play a powerlevel game
fucking cringe
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Nietzsche wasn't protestant!!!
keep telling yourselves that. Also your protestant beliefs tell you everything is relative so I am in the right in some subjective way.

>> No.18907501

>>18904050
I can no longer discern from bait and sincere posts nowadays on /lit/. Truly disturbing times.

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18907578

Bergson

>> No.18907762

>>18905601
It's hard to blame Arthur for how much he despised Hegel
No one wanted to go to his lectures while Hegel had problems squeizing all the students into the room

>> No.18907799

>>18904250
bait

>> No.18907936

>>18907799
Kys commie

>> No.18907986

>>18903777
Honestly, I'd say everyone besides Plato, Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer, abd McLuhan.