/lit/ - Literature

>Already hasn’t
Fucking shiggy

>>18847477

>>18847477
>I know I can't just jump into Fanged Noumena or the CCRU Writings.
yes you can

>>18847518
No you can't

>>18847505
that's more than I was expecting. this is gonna take a while huh?

>>18847477
Read about Transcendental Empiricism (secondary literature on Deleuze).
>>18847505
That's too general. You should add more layers. Say I read ATP or DR from Deleuze. And then I read early Land (FN). I still have a gap to fill, a layer of pathings that will lead from Deleuze to Land by means of Transcendental Empiricism or other elements. Or say I read Kant, I'd have to also read about Critique as a particular path to Land and not fixate on other things such as the morals. One should focus not on who influenced Land but what influenced him.

>>18847527
I did it. Then I realized I didn't understand much of it, so I began to read C&S, then I realized I didn't understand much of it, so I began reading Deleuze's books on other philosophers. But why not first read the text you're actually interested in? Stuff like Circuitries is a fun read anyhow.
Don't forget to read some William Gibson btw.

>>18847477
I genuinely believe most people on here read him because they think he looks cool in this picture. I'm not being ironic. I think if not for this picture his audience on here would drop by at least 60%. People really, really think he looks cool in this picture for some reason, and that's the only reason why anyone gets interested in him. I have been on this board for almost 8 years at this point and I have never once seen anyone discuss his actual ideas in detail, at most someone will post one of the flowcharts. No posts discussing the ideas, but this picture is everywhere. People look at this picture and think Maybe if I Read Nick Land I Too Will Be A Cool Cyber Philosopher With A Wickedly Knowing Halfsmile And Confident Gaze. People think reading his books will make him just like the picture, or something. I really, really think people only like him because of this picture

>10 Land threads
accfag please

>>18847584
You're right.
That's why I read him.

>>18847584
it's a good picture

>>18847477
1. Grow up on eccentric anime
2. Flow deeper into the net
3. Internalize and reflect on the morsels people who understand Land drop

>>18847477
What is there to understand? The majority of his CCRU shit and the entire second half of Fanged Noumena are just cool cyberpunk poetry or Lovecraft inspired theory fiction, just take it for what it is and enjoy.

>>18847636
no it isn't, just read the editors introduction to fanged noumena and you'll manage to see a somewhat practical point on most of the shit in there

>>18847477
Land's own book Thirst for Annihilation is a very good background on how he views the main philosophers he cares about.

>>18847584
No one actually cares about him. Now stop samefagging

>>18847654
Wait who do you think I'm samefagging as

>>18847649
"I wiped the blade against my jeans and walked into the bar. It was mid-afternoon, very hot and still. The bar was deserted. I ordered a whiskey. The barman looked at the blood and asked:

‘God?’

‘Yeah.’

‘S’pose it’s time someone finished that hypocritical little punk, always bragging about his old man’s power…’

He smiled crookedly, insinuatingly, a slight nausea shuddered through me. I replied weakly:

‘It was kind of sick, he didn’t fight back or anything, just kept trying to touch me and shit, like one of those dogs that try to fuck your leg. Something in me snapped, the whingeing had ground me down too low. I really hated that sanctimonious little creep.’

‘So you snuffed him?’

‘Yeah, I’ve killed him, knifed the life out of him, once I started I got frenzied, it was an ecstasy, I never knew I could hate so much.’

I felt very calm, slightly light-headed. The whisky tasted good, vaporizing in my throat. We were silent for a few moments. The barman looked at me levelly, the edge of his eyes twitching slightly with anxiety:

There’ll be trouble though, don’tcha think?’

‘I don’t give a shit, the threats are all used up, I just don’t give a shit.’

‘You know what they say about his old man? Ruthless bastard they say. Cruel…’

‘I just hope I’ve hurt him, if he even exists.’

‘Woulden wanna cross him merself,’ he muttered.

I wanted to say ‘yeah, well that’s where we differ’, but the energy for it wasn’t there. The fan rotated languidly, casting spidery shadows across the room. We sat in silence a little longer. The barman broke first:

‘So God’s dead?’

‘If that’s who he was. That fucking kid lied all the time. I just hope it’s true this time.’

The barman worked at one of his teeth with his tongue, uneasily:

‘It’s kindova big crime though, isn’t it? You know how it is, when one of the cops goes down and everything’s dropped ’til they find the guy who did it. I mean, you’re not just breaking a law, your breaking LAW.’

I scraped my finger along my jeans, and suspended it over the bar, so that a thick clot of blood fell down into my whisky, and dissolved. I smiled:

‘Maybe it’s a big crime,’ I mused vaguely ‘but maybe it’s nothing at all…’ ‘…and we have killed him’ writes Nietzsche, but—destituted of community—I crave a little time with him on my own.

In perfect communion I lick the dagger foamed with God’s blood."

Holy based

>>18847641
Yeah the first half is "serious" philosophy, his essays on Deleuze, Heidegger, Trakl etc. The second half is not

>>18847668
But I believe in this and it's been tested by research, he who kills God later joins the church.

>>18847697
Well yeah, the second half is not written or intended to be a traditional academic text, if you're trying to equate them on those grounds then you might not have understood what Land was doing in the first place

>>18847576
Land doesn't care about transcendental empiricism. Moslt likely he would be interested on the transcendental sensibility (from which Deleuze's derives his transcendental empiricism in DR); nonetheless he dislikes everything that has to be with "transcendental".

>>18847840
>he dislikes everything that has to be with "transcendental".
tanscendental materialism is what Land does (and what he took from Deleuze's transcendental empiricism)
You fucking ant brain faggot, do you not know how the term "transcendental" has been used?

>>18848019
I surely know more than you, since I'm saying this because Land is explicit about that in both, tTfA and FN articles. You should try reading DR so you understand what transcendental materialism, transcendental empiricism and transcendental sensibility truly means.

>>18848037
>Land is explicit about that in both, tTfA and FN articles
Faggot go and read some more, and stop writing like chris-chan

>>18848037
>I surely know more than you, since I'm saying this because Land is explicit about that in both, tTfA and FN articles. You should try reading DR so you understand what transcendental materialism, transcendental empiricism and transcendental sensibility truly means.

>>18847840
You sound fucking stupid. Land loves the transcendental mechanism stupid niggerr

Okay, bitches, but what exactly does "transcendental" even mean here? Does it presuppose a subject as distinct from the outside world? Cuz that would be fucking stupid. If not, then why so much focus on the relation between the subject (however it is generated) and the world? Seems to me like there are more pressing questions, such as how indeed subjectivity arises, and the transcendental shit would completely dissolve there.

>>18847477
A few days ago I dreamed that I was in a bookstore with my sister and that she picked Fanged Noumena from a bookshelf, I told her it was garbage and she put it back. I've never read FN or anything by Land for that matter.

>>18848064
>anti-accfag posting this nonsense image again

>>18847477
Take HRT

Kant, Spinoza, Deleuze, Nietzsche, Bataille, Norbert Weiner, the first two Terminator movies (this is actually the most important)

>>18848698
already am, but I need to go deeper

>>18847477

The will to deicide is morally correct, and together with the hatred of god, is the highest possible good. Anons please give me more on Land's deicidal impulses, sources and so forth. Fuck the Holy Spirit, Fuck the Holy Spirit, and I say again unto you, Fuck the Holy Sprit which has nothing worth liking about it.

>>18847505
>no William Burroughs

Why do you want to understand Nick Land?

>>18847477
Anti-Duhring should honestly be enough.

He's playing babby marxist hegelian in public without wiping his arsehole.

>>18851734
William Burroughs is a revolutionary though. Land is a reactionary.

>>18847584
>I have been on this board for almost 8 years at this point and I have never once seen anyone discuss his actual ideas in detail
Excuse me, Nick-Land-on-/lit/ historian here
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>>18851756
doesn't know about Lemurian time war

>>18847477
His twitter