/lit/ - Literature

>>18817733
He wrote like hundreds of different things, so I guess you have to be more specific.

>>18817733
He's good, though I wouldn't start with In the name of the Rose.

>>18817752
I'm referring specifically to his novels.

he's great
but he loves blacks, americans and women

He wrote a whole fictionalized thing about some goy framing Jews for problems... whatever dude

It's amazing how well your post signals to everyone how much of a snarky, insufferable, all around unpleasant person to be around you are in just two sentences.

>>18817766
What's the problem with that?

>>18817775
Well, I know he inspired Dan Brown, so without having read a single sentence of his work I assume that he might be genre schlock. Then again, people shill him a lot here, and people here have pretty good taste. So I'm just wondering.

>>18817733
Do you have an opinion about why Operaismo/Autonomia failed in Italy, why the universities are fucked, and why scholarly Marxism is humourless dreck?

If so read the name of the rose.

>>18817733
not genre shlock

>>18817778
He should be right wing! I want my Fascist version of Eco!

>>18817784
>people here have pretty good taste
you absolute fucking newfag lmao

>>18817799
Anon, if you’re still here, I completely missed this aspect of Name of the Rose and would appreciate your help. What parts are you referring to and is there any secondary literature on this topic? I can only find something obliquely referring to it.

>>18817733
>genre schlock
He isn't even known for his fiction as much as he is for autistically pedantic semiotic philosophy.

>>18817733

Pendulum has strong passages with literary merit, but typically on the other side of two hundred page expositions on the templars. So you have to want that too.

>>18817754
That's where I started and I loved it. A more engaging read than Pendulum imo. Haven't read his other works.

>>18817733
He has nice and engaging style, great sense of humor and if you know the historical context of his novels they would show their full potential. The Island of the Day Before is probably my favourite, I just love such a funny and interesting adventure novel mixed with witty commentaty on the early enlightenment era.

Baudolino is a great read, recommended.

Name of the rose made me feel very smart

>>18817778
Nigger

>>18817775
I should have put a trigger warning in, sorry.

>>18817774

>>18818457
Sorry mate, I was selling myself for wages to pay rent.

So the Fratticelli are the Operaismo/ Autonomia. They're deviant "half" scholars connected to an underground movement of the poor that has failed. They're tortured (Tony Black had to flee to france).

Our Hero used to be a franciscan but converted in time to keep his job as a scholar. The conservative monks are the Stalinists. They're fighting over useless stuff.

The Monestary is the University. Which is why our young monk is shocked by fucking the woman he can't speak to. The University is fucked because the fight between the various monk factions is over words, not action or god.

We know Aristotle on tragedy, but what if he wrote the funniest fucking comedy ever?

What if Karl Marx wrote bad genre fiction comedy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpion_and_Felix

The monks are behaving just like the communists in Italy, and the only communists who care, the poorest idiot monks, die burning while the proletariat watches them and laughs.

>>18819301
Thank you. This kind of post almost makes me not regret all the time I’ve wasted in this Tuvan lithography subreddit. Was there any secondary or tertiary text you read that spurred this line of interpretation? Reminds me of Wu Ming for obvious reasons. Re: the lost text element, besides Scorpion and Felix, I think the fuss the Italians made and continue to make about the fragment of machines or other scraps of the Grundrisse could be relevant too.

>>18817855
fascists aren't right wing

>>18819560
If you haven't read it, go read Luther Blisset's _Q_. It is basically Neil Stephenson's Baroque Cycle, if Baroque Cycle were Da Vinci Code, and Q were Foucault's pendulum.

There's a history of Autonomia playing with history as metaphor.

Yeah, Lenin in England (fragment on Machines), but also the fact that Operaismo was *mass raiding supermarkets to steal everything*. And doing chequerboard strikes *against communist party union leaders*.

If you can't obviously guess, I have spent a lot of time with Auties, even though I'm more KAPD in tendential background.

As a libertarian communist ultraleft Eco reeked of the hot autumn.

Obviously you *ABSOLUTELY MUST* read Engels, "Peasants War in Germany" which obviously inspired Luther Blisset and Eco.

It is worth reading Caliban and the Witch on the same point, about Factors and Factories and Sugar Island Slave Wage Labour.

The entire subdiscipline of labour history has been going nuts over "unfree labour" for the past 20 years. Personally I find the factory stuff I study (and work in) sufficiently fascinating.

By the way, do your stretches daily, if you fuck your knees you'll starve.

>>18819576
Q and the Engels text are definitely favorites; find all that communist medievalism and millenarianism indispensable for our increasingly neo-feudal times. What do you study/do or work? I’m also interested in that factory research and inquiry side of Operaismo that you mentioned.

>>18819650
Traditional last mile.

Worker self-inquiry starts with getting your mates to go down the pub and asking more and more detailed questions on how they get sweat out of you. Its like a reading group but instead of texts you read your own work.

>>18819650
Also I'm well up past my bed time for a 4.30 wake up.

>>18817733
He tries to force a philosophical premise. And his narration is very explicit, too much, not letting anything for the imagination of the reader

>>18819301
Here's a REAL Eco question.
Is "Come si fa una tesi di laurea" good? Asking for a friend.

>>18819657
Well put. Do post about the KAPD and what not some other time. It gets boring here.

>>18819694
Stapler theses do not work in Anglophone humanities. He's absolutely correct about a single topic and sources available to you locally and economically. You shouldn't be a German historian working in the US, the fucking archives (except US army seized archives) are in Germany.

You should get your Trade certificate first, then do your doctorate, so you can be a happy plumber rather than a happy labourer. Due to the market structure I have to work 60 hour weeks. Plumbers work 35.

Think about the extra hours not publishing research papers on labour structure because it is unethical to publish communist research. The bosses read.

I could force /pol/ to read one book and one book only The Cemetert of Prague would be it.
Not because it would change their mind or whatever but just to see their reaction.
It's amazing how much the protagonist could easily be a random incel posting here