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I've read the occasional philosopher here and there (and found a few interesting, including Weininger, Nietzsche, Michelstädter, Reich, Evola and others), but have never had a really solid knowledge of the field.

Recently I tried to get into it more seriously, but I'm just unable to do it.

>try to start with the Greeks and progress chronologically
>need to wade through endless stuff I don't give a shit about, like scholastics and Descartes

>try to read specific stuff that seems interesting, like Heidegger
>turns out I'm supposed to read all of Western philosophy untranslated to get it

>read something relevant to modern academia, like Deleuze
>it's hundreds of pages of fart-sniffing, only to get to some retarded inapplicable conclusion

>read this or that influential author
>find major flaws
>can't argue with the author himself, obviously
>he's super influential, so I have to either suck it up or discard a huge amount of other stuff

How do I get out of this? Am I doomed to stay forever a midwit?

>> No.18809598

Read a fucking textbook. And you seem like someone lacking cerebral tonus. If it feels useless, you are doing it wrong. Philosophy is by far the easiest thing that you can get that can change your own experience completely. You might also be depressed, consider doing therapy. That might also be the reason why you can't think properly.

>> No.18809605

You don't have the mind for it. Wait until reality beats some spirit into you or give up. It's probably not even your fault. 50 years of corporate advertising and corn syrup will do that to a mfer, and his progeny.

>>18809598
>Philosophy is by far the easiest thing that you can get that can change your own experience completely.
This

>> No.18809611

In addition to what the anon posted above, consider rubbing peepee once a week; ideally not at all.

>> No.18809656

>>18809564
Just read summaries. Don't bother with the actual books.

>> No.18809668

Life is fake and big ghey. Do what you wanna do cuz you’re gonna anyway desu

>> No.18809689

>>18809598
>>18809656
I suppose summaries will do then.

>>18809611
I have actual sex fairly often and hardly ever jack off, so I doubt that's the issue here.

>> No.18809707

>>18809689
Your problem then is that you are surrounded by women and they are sapping your intelligence.

>> No.18809772

>>18809564
Start with the greeks is a meme. Start with what you're interested in, then read more of what you're interested, and basically if you're not interested don't bother. Simple as. If you're not interested then yeah there's no point

>> No.18809775

Just read a history of philosophy book that goes into why every philosopher is important, their main ideas and in an easily digestible format, then go deeper into the ones that you find interesting.

>> No.18809830

>>18809707
I have this problem, as well.

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You need to start with the prince of philosophers

>> No.18809840

>>18809830
Every anon has, /lit/ is fille with women.

>> No.18809871

>>18809564
Are you seething dude, are you gonna be ok?
Bro?
Should I wake up a mod or call a 4chan ambulance?
You dunce. Read more.

>> No.18810080

>>18809564
Why does it matter to you? If you don't find a use for philosophy, don't bother with it. It's that simple. Everything else in life works this way. It's not the end of the world if you weren't destined to be a big brain genius philosopher who will be remembered for thousands of years.

>> No.18811266

>>18809598
>Read a fucking textbook
What is a good textbook? Ideally one with practice problems

>> No.18811276

>>18811266
>prove the existence of an unmoved mover, only using the syllogistic form of reasoning just demonstrated, in fewer than 10 propositions.

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>>18809564
It is

>> No.18811280

>>18811276
yes something like this

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>>18809564
Too much philosophy *is* useless.
When it stops being fun and useful, look elsewhere.
And throw out the damn blowjacks

>> No.18811287

>>18811266
>Socratic Logic by Peter Kreeft
>Historical Introduction to Philosophy hy Albert B. Hakim

Both are free on libgen.

>> No.18811298

>>18809564
Hey man if you're not having fun or enjoying yourself then just do something else, not hard. You don't need to follow western canon down the line either, with the internet you can pick and go as you'd like. Whatever grabs your interest.