/lit/ - Literature

>>18798781
>Which University do you anons go to
Cambridge (recently graduated)
>what are you currently reading
Metamorphoses (never read it before and I had a copy lying around so I thought I might as well)
>how are your general experiences at uni?
Shit initially but got a lot better towards the end, despite covid.

>>18798781
Hello, Mr. Officer. You may not mine my data.

>>18798781
>will go to uni in 2 years after finishing regular school
>gold in the furnace

>>18798794
Nice, congratulations on Cambridge graduation. Going to continue with a Masters?

I graduated and am currently reading books on various terrorist groups and generals to prepare for my future career.

>>18798815
Yeah, I reckon I'll try and stay on in academia for as long as I can. I can't imagine any other career I'd be happy with and I think I have the potential to do alright.

>>18798815
>>18798823
And tyvm for the congratulations, anon

>>18798794
what subject?

>>18798823
>I'll try and stay on in academia for as long as I can. I can't imagine any other career I'd be happy with
I have exactly the same mindset. It’s a place I like to be and I really can’t imagine myself doing manual labour my whole life either.

>>18798832
Sometimes I fantasise about working in a national park or something else outdoors, and coming home in the evening to read and write. That would be a comfy life but you'd probably be too tired in the evenings to do much.

>>18798831
Theology. I enjoyed it and found it valuable, but it's a strange field to be in nowadays; it has a real inferiority complex about philosophy (as an academic discipline).

>>18798781
I'm reading aerospace engineering at the University of Surrey but I'm currently re-reading The Hobbit for nostalgia's sake. Uni's been pretty good so far but I haven't found many lit minded people - engineering students don't do a lot of reading it seems.

>>18798919
Hopefully you'll have an opportunity to join societies now that covid restrictions are finally easing

>Which University do you anons go to?
Goethe University in Frankfurt
>what are you currently reading?
nothing, I've been feeling pretty demotivated and depressed, but I'm gonna read Being and Time as well as some Faulkner soon. I love Faulkner, I think he's my favorite author. I also read a few pages of les fleurs du mal whenever I'm in a very specific mood for it.
>how are your general experiences at uni
I started last winter so it's been all online experience so far. I only stepped into the campus once and only for a couple of minutes, I have yet to see any of the buildings from the inside. I hate this home office shit. It's nearly impossible for me to focus.

>>18798875
any tips for enjoying cambridge? got two years left, and it has been pretty mediocre for the first two years

>>18799016
I started to enjoy it when I found a good group of friends desu, as well as becoming more serious about and invested in my subject. I did also dabble in the theatre scene and I think that's something which could be quite special, if you're interested enough in acting/writing/directing (I personally wasn't interested enough to fully get into it and I hate actors). What kind of things are you interested in, anon? I think there are different ways to enjoy Cambridge.

>what university do you anons go to
Bachelors in Panteion University of Athens (absolute trash and a meme degree)
Currently Masters in the National University of Athens (better, but Covid ruined the whole experience)
>what are you currently reading
Re-reading Plato's Gorgias
>how are your general experiences in uni
Only worth it for a couple of selected professors, making friends and meeting girls, and the library. Do your own study and research or you will barely learn anything

imagine going to university

>>18798781
I'm watching all of Oxford's free lectures because I don't believe in my ability to excel in the classroom.

In a CUNY college.
Im majoring in biochem rn but might end up changing to something else and getting a certification or becoming a High School teacher. Dont care about going into research anymore I just want to open my own little bookstore somewhere, self studying where ever I can at my own pace. Currently reading Linkola's "Can Life Prevail?" ben reading more (actual) environmentalist works I like them when they actually understand whats happening like Ted did and not being an environmentalist for societal points

>>18798781
I will be going to pic rel soon. I’m pretty confused and idk what to do - go into STEM or humanities. Also I can’t cope with separating from my family. Hold me bros, I need some tips how to survive this place

>>18799378
cunny college sounds based

I've recently just finished university, having studied at the University of Bath. Currently reading the Island by Huxley. I went to uni simply on the basis that it was the done thing, with little care in the world over studying etc. This made my first 2 years very difficult and lonley. I enjoyed my final year of study, but I would suggest that if your medicore student you actively try and improve those skills in your first year, to avoid difficulty later on.

>>18799524
Bath is a comfy town desu

>>18799458
I WISH IT WAS CUNNY ANON
I WISH

>>18798781
I refuse to get doxxed. I expected more of uni. I thought people would come here to further their field of science. Instead, most people here are looking to land a well paid job. There are lots of platforms to go abroad, or follow an internship. But you don't see many going for their doctoral and most of the ones that do end up teaching.

>>18799452
if money isn't an issue, go study whatever fulfills you.
>inb4 but humanities doesn't make money as opposed to stem
that's not completely true, and even if it were, so what? Do you value money that much? Then there are other, more time-efficient ways to achieve that.

I took the cs pill when I was 18 and I dropped out after like 1 semester. I got memed by all these cool videos on yt that idolize this field. I thought I could just get a career in software engineering and go after my hobbies simultaneously, but my god that shit is not only pretty hard but it sucks the soul out of you, I really did not feel like doing the slightest thing for that shit, it was so utterly boring and difficult that I actually found the math course refreshing and doable. Not to mention all the freshman bugmen and code monkeys that made it impossible to feel comfortable or socialized in there. I've resented all of them except for 1 guy who I knew from elementary school and 1 qt emo girl who often sat beside me and him for no apparent reason.
I can't say I regret doing it since it made me realize that I should just go for whatever fascinates me and worry about money secondly. Now I'm 21 studying philosophy at a university that is famous for its scholars in humanities and it fulfills me much more. The people there are also much more likable. Whatever you do anon, make sure YOU want it, not your parents, not the job market or the sketchy yt fags.

Screencap is some anon on this board who encouraged me to study philosophy about a year ago. Bless this anon, hope he's doing well.

>>18798781
>Which University do you anons go to
Graduated from one of the oldest Oxford Colleges in 2020 with a first in a humanities subject
>what are you currently reading
Parsifal: The Music of Redemption by Scruton
>how are your general experiences at uni?
Was very posh and cliquey at my college, but the teaching quality was superb and the workload really pushed you to the edge of your abilities

I went to some shitty private uni in Paris because undergrad is a meme / waste of time and I just wanted to live in an interesting location

grad school / business school / law school are where it actually matters and where you actually make connections for your future profession. Undergrad is just an expensive way to make it somewhat easier to get in, but if you're smart you can just score a 95th percentile score on the placement test (LSAT, GMAT, etc) and laugh at all the idiots who spent 200k to go to Brown undergrad or whatever

>>18799773
Thanks for the answer anon, it means a lot. My situation is a bit weird. Throughout my life, in literature, history, and (to some extent) philosophy, I feel natural, like fish in the water. But reading so much history and philosophy (stereotypical for an angsty teenager I took Nietzsche pill) made me realize that I want to actually make an impact on the world. The whole world is revolving around STEM right now and that seems the best place to do it. I also have huge admiration for scientists (this pic spoke to me a lot) but I also realize I couldn’t ever produce something like them. I’m repulsed by hard sciences (except their philosophical parts) yet I’m ashamed that I don’t know the world around me. Has there ever been a study to explain this? I guess in this unique position, at “prestigious” uni, I feel like I can make some change and my mind is telling me to go into STEM but my heart is aching to go into comfy lit/his/philo college experience (if that thing exists today).
Sorry for the blogpost, but this is the only place where I can vent.

>>18798781
>college
Lincoln University
>reading
Enquiry concerning human understanding, because these past months the question of certain knowledge has really bothered me because on the one hand everything practically seems certain but, after reading berkely, it seems that can't be logically proven. hume offers some level of comfort in the face of this sort of worry

>>18798781
>University
University of York
>Reading
The Revolt of the Masses by José Ortega y Gasset
>Experiences
Superb. The university campus is beautiful and the city itself is amazing. The teaching is good for the most part. My only complaint is in the lack of standardisation in the marking of assessments, especially when it comes to essays

>>18799669
> most people here are looking to land a well paid job
Well, duh

>>18798781
>Which University do you anons go to
University of Kent (recently graduated)
>what are you currently reading
A Little Life by Hanya Yanagihara. It's kinda cringe because it's American.
>how are your general experiences at uni?
Alright. Managed to bag a grad scheme so can't really complain.

>>18799452
Are there any anons at all with Ivy League experience?

>which University do you anons go to

Just about to graduate from the University of Exeter with a 2.1 in History (deferred my dissertation so not technically graduated yet).

>what are you currently reading

Nonfiction: Doom: The Politics of Catastrophe by Niall Ferguson
Fiction: Brideshead Revisited by Evelyn Waugh

>how are you general experiences at uni

Overall very positive. Did a lot of extracurricular things both academic and social, came out with a great group of friends and plenty of contacts (thank you based networking skills).

>>18799907
Don't go into humanities bro, especially don't go to HYPS for humanities. Humanities at top universities are trash these days. Authors might be disregarded for being white males, you might be ostracized for displaying "problematic" ideas and you will be discussing vagina all day long. I've met a lit graduate from UC(can't recall if it was Berkeley or LA) that didn't study Shakespeare, can you imagine that?

If you want to make a real change in the world, I recommend going into Materials Science engineering. There's a lot of untapped depth in that field and it's definitely doable for midwits. Even without graduate degrees you have chance to develop some new polymer or alloy with some superior properties and it will make difference in real world. There is a lot of development in nanotechnology, bioengineering, space technology and there is a huge demand for new materials. Also pay is quite good. Metallurgists in US start around 75k right out of college and have highest satisfaction rate among all majors.

>>18800082
Thoughts on Brideshead?

>>18800082

Extremely comfy book. I started reading it earlier this year but never finished it so I thought picking it up again was the correct thing to do. Glad I did.

>>18798781
Good Lord people of purpose! I know that you know that I post here too but what on gay Earth makes you think I would tell you any of these things?

Not sure how long I will post here either though. You see, the search function of this site has not worked for me for about one month now. I do not know what it is, but it gives me "Connection error." each time I try to make a search. This means that I can not search for active threads about my favorite topic on various boards anymore. Also I do not bother to scroll through the catalogs of all possible boards where my favorite topic would be discussed about, I do it only on /lit/ and /rk9/. This means I am becoming less and less interested in posting on any boards. I am too unsociable to post just to be able to chat with someone, or just to talk about topics that are interesting to me, unless they are my absolute favorite topics making me have strong primary emotions. I am sure that this was uninteresting to everyone, just needed to put it up somewhere. I'd like to answer all of your questions, but I can't.

I'm just reading someone's handwritten journal at the moment, and a course book. Also I have a pile of detective stories and stories of immigration waiting to be read, I got them for free from someone.

>>18800090
Interesting but also depressing. I’ve never even thought about material science. Imo, best for accumulation of capital would be CS, no?

>Alma Mater: Wyoming Catholic College
Catholic liberal arts education; theologically orthodox and its focus in on the Western Tradition. Small and in the middle of nowhere but I wager it and similar schools will have great impact in the decades to come.
>Now: University of State, Law School
Haven't begun yet but it's a law program in a Western US state. Pray for me in my journey against the world, anons.
>What are you currently reading
Right now I'm bouncing between Infinite Jest (interesting book), King Lear (Conflated Edition), and Reflections on the Revolution in France by Burke.
>How were your experiences at uni?
Excellent, though not without human drama. While I wish my school could be in the midst of a great and flowering European city, it was not. Lots of great conversations, excellent outdoor opportunities. Good community. Very glad to have been blessed to attend.

>>18800237
>Wyoming Catholic College
looks very interesting. How would atheist like me feel there? Also, how much it is similar or different from St.John's college? How serious is science part of your education?

>>18800222
Yeah, CS graduates have highest salary. Guy from my college started with 160k straight out of college and for students from places like MIT, Cornell or Carnegie Mellon it's quite common. But I imagine some people might hate studying cs. I hated my cs classes, not because they were hard, but mostly because it was so annoying and time consuming. If you don't want to sit in front of your computer all day and code you are likely to hate it.

>>18800290
>How would atheist like me feel there?
go to a state school you stupid cunt, stop ruining places where you don't belong

>>18800350
Yeah that’s what I’m afraid of. They always say “study what you love” but it’s hard if field was ruined

>tfw you had the grades to go to literally any uni in the UK but your (teacher provided) predicted grades were shit so you didn't aim high enough

>>18798781
I got a BA in literature at Aberystwyth last year, and I’m finishing my MA next month, and looking to do a PhD somewhere else. I’m reading Aristotle’s Poetics for the diss. atm

>>18799838
sound like a christ church lad? brasenose reporting in

>>18800519
Same thing here. It was tough to cope at the start after not getting into Oxbridge. But I'm just gonna become self employed after graduating. I'm studying econ btw.

>>18799838
>>18800602
Although colleges don’t matter much for post- at Oxford, how’s Worcester College and its general reputation there?

>>18800939
Post-graduates*

>Which university do you anons go to
In a CUNY college (CCNY), studying bio (premed).

>What are you currently reading
Ada (Nabokov) and some Guenon

>How are your experiences at uni?
It was kind of disappointing going to college and realizing that 90 percent of professors are retarded and contemptible. Just have to find the 10 percent which can be cool.

>>18799378
Another CUNY student, didn’t think I’d see one here, cool.

I still cannot really deal with the fact that I might walk past another /lit/ anon on my campus without knowing it. You guys don't even seem like real people to me.

>>18800602
Merton bro actually

>>18800939
Worcester is beautiful and really big, but it's usually pretty low on the norrington table iirc

>>18800986
What constitutes as a cool versus contemptible professor might I ask?

>>18800986
fellow CUNY fren :)
It does suck that most professors are absolutely stupid or annoying but I wish you luck on your path nonetheless

>>18800999
Nice to know, thanks. I’m not that into college competitiveness so the norrington table doesn’t matter much to me. As long as it’s beautiful. I originally wished for Lincoln due to its age but got placed at Worcester. Probably due to lower priority for Post-graduate students. Does seem nice from videos though, along with overall location.

>>18800350
If your are goignt to study CS than why not do a coding bootcamp or something similar instead?

>>18801007
Good professors both care about the material and want the students to learn it and understand that the students have lives too and not to make things too hard for them. Most professors go too far in either extreme though, either purposefully making things needlessly difficult or being way to lax to the point of not caring or understanding the material. There’s a good medium between the two extremes.

>>18801013
Ty, good luck to you as well.

>>18801036
no problem anon, I'm sure you'll have a great time as a grad student there, Worcester is still pretty old after all

>>18801072
Thanks a lot, anon

>>18801051
That’s one of the options I was thinking about. Study something that I love and get good grades while learning to code on my own without any pressure (I already started). My fear is that then I will never truly know the field + it’s easier to do HUM stuff on your own rather then STEM, I believe. Idk, it’s all so tiresome.

>>18801138
ill chime in as well. worcester is v nice desu and yes big, don't worry about the norrington table too much. only edgy tryhards care about that. im sure you will enjoy :)

>>18801054
I remember a professor I had who gave us a quiz sheet every class where we had to answer 10 out of 15 questions correct for every quiz five out of eight lectures while also write two ten page qualification paper to get accepted for exams. That was an interesting one.

>>18801161
Excellent to kow, anon, thanks a lot. I'm looking forward to start.

>>18798781
>>18800081
>>18799452
Wy the fuck are there so many Oxbridge anons and no Ivy League anons

>>18801342
Guess they respond to different hours. There tends to be a lot more American acitivty at 3 AM GMT+1

>>18800081
I had a nightmare where I went to Princeton if that counts, thankfully waking up in Oxford.

>>18801355
>>18801373
Guess I’ll wait for them

>>18801419
They'll be around eventually, at least speaking from experience from previous threads.
I guess you are Ivy League. Which one?

>>18800986
it's very common and easy for freshmen to think they're above the professors. You'll get over it eventually

>>18801479
>it's very common and easy for freshmen to think they're above the professors.
Why is it like that really?

>>18799773
I studied CS and have an IT consulting job. What puts me off about software is that you have to invest tons of mental overhead into technical minutiae that might be totally obsolete and irrelevant in 10 years. It's like manual labor for the mind. I want to accumulate lasting skills, not get thrown away when I'm old and no longer seen as fresh and mentally agile.

>>18801546
If you were to choose again, what would you do?

>>18801432
Big H

>tfw dropout
I would've had a meme degree probably but it burns so much that I never finished. I was doing well and close to finishing too. I just quit studying because I became depressed to the point where I couldn't get out of bed.
Too many years have gone by. Maybe today I would be able to have the enthusiasm to finish but I'd have to start over.
I still think I signed off of life when I dropped out. I just accepted I didn't want to live and spent every year since living off inertia and not wanting to give grief to my family.
I'm so envious of the people here who attend collage. It may look like a meme but don't drop out ever, just finish your commitment it means a lot.

>>18801612
What do you do now?
t. Person in exact same situation.

>>18801595
Awesome! Humanities or Stem?

>>18801612
Would give you a hug friend. Seems like that's what you need most in your life right now.

>>18801595
Got excited that Hitler was being mentioned turns out it's just that fag school h*rvard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmwTN2slUhU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35vY_c6h23I

Don't summon me like this again unless you have real Hitler to talk about

>Edinburgh
>Bible out of curiosity
>Hated uni
Did engineering, realized i wasn't motivated enough to go through it and couldn't be bothered dealing with people through team projects and lab work, switched to CS.
Would sit at the bus stop in the winter until my next lecture 2 hours later and read bullshit (library had broken heaters when i was there that made it boiling hot)
Get train home to Glasgow with 1 hour and 20 min journey as cost of living in Edinburgh is retarded, but more like 1 hour and 50 as public transport is shit and always late.
Get home by 7pm with only 3 hours to study.

>>18801631
That first youtube link, isn't that the fag who read one self-help book a week then dropped out of Harvard because he got high on the five minutes of fame his video produced?

>>18801504
might be a generational thing, because nowadays lots of people love to think they've got some type of secret knowledge that they acquired through the internet, this can lead to that superiority complex where you think you're ahead of or generally smarter than people around you. There was a stirnerfag in my philosophy class who was exactly like this, always thinking that the professor needs to hear what he has to say on topic xy even though nobody gives a fuck. To quote Kierkegaard:
>When someone continually bandies about such locutions as “On this occasion it occurs to me,” “The occasion prompts me to think,” etc., one can always be sure that such a person is on the wrong track as far as he himself is concerned. He often sees in even the most trifling matter an occasion to put in his bit of comment.
Also people want to stand out in a competitive environment, and academia is one of those. If you can manage to impress your professor you'll feel confirmed in your superiority.

>Which University do you anons go to

Stanford Stem PhD

>what are you currently reading

The Embezzlers by Kataev. Currently I'm not in the best of moods, thus I wanted something short and light.

>how are your general experiences at uni

Technically speaking, I'm pulling in a nice stipend, working no more than 20 hours a week and getting to do the stuff that I love. I should be having the time of my life. The problem is that I can't get away from my research. Every time I relax, try to think about life, or converse with someone, I inevitably descend intro trying to figure out my unsolved research problems. It's beginning to get too exhausting.

>>18801633
Reading this makes me so glad that Oxbridge has a college system and that you have to live within a reasonable radius of the campus or on campus directly. No commute involved.

>>18801624
I’m trying to figure that out. What about u fren

>Which University do you anons go to?
George Washington University
>What are you currently reading?
Beyond Good and Evil by Nietzsche and also recently finished Twilight of the Idols and Ecce Homo. Houellebecq has also been a favorite of mine recently.
>How are your general experiences at uni?
I'll be a freshman in the Fall. I've only talked to people online but some of the international and big city people I've meet seem cool and interesting.
Studying International Business and Philosophy. Not sure if I want to take the business route or the professor route in Literature or Philosophy.

>>18801621
I've briefly tried to find meaning in a passion project which failed because I don't have business sense, went back to heavy bedridden depression.
Did brief suicide inducing jobs here and there while on the brain pills, wanted to kill self more and more every year, stopped taking meds.
Brief period where I got better, got a gf, got depressed again, broke up. I think I just wasted entire years doing nothing except trying to keep myself busy enough so I wouldn't kill myself.
Tried again with the passion project because it was all I had that made sense to me, failed even harder, got too old for the internet.
I'm just accepting that my life was a mistake and I was destined to kill myself, and I'm only living until a key family member dies and I'm free to check out without hurting anyone.
Thanks for reading the blog.

Literally who European uni studying history going into my last year. It's alright. Reading a book on late medieval history of my country atm.

>>18801662
Humanities at Oxford for me. I love my field and could definitely envision myself in academia pursuing a DPhil and later post-doc. In fact, I can't imagine myself in any other job in which I'd thrive. Money is nice and all, but I'd rather love my work and life compared to pulling in a nice wad of cash from a job I hate.

>>18801706
Sounds nice. Wish I was so set on one thing as you are, my life would be a lot easier

>>18801631
that girl wants so much attention its disgusting

>>18801718
Yeah I definitely feel lucky at times, with how set on my path I am. Especially given how many people in general can't find mold that fits them and seek things out for a long time.

>>18801723
Harvard is not sending out their best. So far I haven’t met one person who isn’t liberal striver zoomer in my generation. I have no idea how to find like-minded people
>>18801733
Well all the best to you anon

>>18798781
>Which University do you anons go to
A no-name uni to the east of London, none of you know about it.
>what are you currently reading
Moby Dick.
>how are your general experiences at uni?
Academically, it was eh. A lot of highs and lows that cancel each other out. Socially, the first couple of years were between "OK" and "boring" overall, but the last one was great, that's when I made some very close friends and had funny laughs and adventures.

if you people need to spend a thousand dollars to learn something you can read in books then maybe I should charge hundreds to teach you kids to make better long-term investments ahahaha

>>18801737
thanks man

>>18801761
>A no-name uni to the east of London, none of you know about it.
But now I really want to know, anon. That's how you get people curious.

>>18801799
Oh. I'll take note of that then lol. It's Anglia Ruskin University. Not a bad place at all actually, just has no wider recognition to its name.

>>18801814
Well with all the universities in the world it's hard to take note of everyone, but #300 on the world rankings certainly isn't bad, again, considering how many universities there are in the world.

>>18801837
True, I guess. I wish I was more /lit/ when I still attended, 'cause their library's pretty good in hindsight.

>>18801573
I'd still go into tech. I think it's worth it despite the soul-sucking quality. I just turned 23 and made 90k this past year; I could quit on monday and live on my savings for two years, and a lot of my cohort did way better than me. I'm fine with trading brain cycles for wages in my 20s, I'll just need to pivot to something more sustainable later on.
I would still study CS but that isn't necessary for tech jobs since you can get relevant experience "in the wild" and parlay that into official experience.

My do-over changes would be personal and social, because being maladjusted hurt my productivity and short-term prospects in addition to my mental health.
Above all, I would make more effort to find ppl I genuinely liked and not try to be "cool". I wouldn't join greek life. I would look into more wholesome/productive campus orgs.

Obviously I'd engage more with school and work exp, not procrastinate etc, but that's easy to say in retrospect

I think you should study what you want and form a realistic career plan. It doesn't have to be related to your major. I don't think anyone should go for humanities academia because that's like trying to be an actor.

>university
I studied English and physics at a small university on the east coast of Canada. I'm currently doing a Bachelors in Education at a university in the same town that I grew up in. Teaching at my old high-school has been a surreal experience indeed.
>currently reading
Far from the Madding Crowd and a book on structural engineering.
>experience
I very much enjoyed my undergrad - lectures, writing papers, researching, etc. I would've stayed in academia had the protests from my parents to join "the real world" not broken me down, and fed into my inkling that I was completely and utterly worthless, with no practical (read: directly related to an office monkey career) skills.

boston college
reading henry adams histories

its a pretty /lit/ school overall, their philosophy and theology dept are v solid and there is little prentension/mania like at H. good city too

>>18801612
I also dropped out, but only for a semester and then I went back and got my shit together. I graduated early and have a high paying job now but I still get really depressed sometimes. I have no idea how I would cope if I were you. You probably still have time to save yourself, but I guess you need some kind of radical exogenous change because your own emotions are working against you.

How old are you?

>>18801871
Well that's certainly more than I'll probably earn in a year, as someone who tries to go into humanities academia. Funny thing, I did try to be an actor at one point. Still love the theatre.
I am curious though, do you want to go into tech for the pay, or because you enjoy it? I doubt you can enjoy something you characterize as soul-sucking, but perhaps. What would be more sustainable?

>>18798781
>Which University do you anons go to
University of Toronto

>what are you currently reading
I Ching, Minima Moralia

>how are your general experiences at uni?
In general it's very boring, and comically easy. So many people whine about how hard the courses are, how the profs overburden the students with work, and so forth. The truth is the university has 70,000 students and the vast majority are simply unsuited for higher education - and many are especially pathetic since their inability to keep up with the workload is not the result of having to work or living an interesting and full life, but is instead the product of League of Legends addiction and similar 'commitments'. As a result of this leading to low grading standards in the humanities, I was able to get a 99% in an essay focused higher-year course - this should simply not be possible.

Socially, almost all the students are as lazy and uninspired as they are in their classes. Few display any interest in anything which can't be stuck on a resume. I don't really have much ill-will towards the student body (they're not particularly offensive or distracting, they're not really anything at all), but it makes it difficult to find those few who are worth being around.

>>18802019
>University of Toronto
>I Ching
We know you Ching, you say already you at University of Toronto.

Can you post in here if you’re not gay? I go to university but I hate it because I am not gay. Are you guys fags?

>>18798781
While you guys are all here, recommend some good universities to get into for creative writing as an international?

>>18802024
Actually made me lol anon, pretty good

>>18802019
70,000 students! Holy shit.

>>18802034
Well, the Ivy's and Oxbridge. University of New York, Ann Harbor

>>18802073
And you feel it - 500-1000 person first year classes. It is a factory, not a school. I wish more than anything else that I had listened to the advice I received in high school and tried to get a scholarship or something to go to a liberal arts school down south.

>>18798781
>TFW attend shitty school that's only known for the nations best college football team

I have no plans for graduate school and am an American but for some reason I feel a weird drawing towards the University of Edinburgh. I have no idea why I'm feeling this way. I feel a much lowered level of this attraction towards Trinity College in Dublin.

There's no particular advantage towards studying in Britain/Ireland and I don't even have any concrete plans for graduate school.

>>18802136
and here I thought 200 people in one lecture hall during the first semesters was cramped and awful. I can't imagine anything more, sounds like hell.

>>18802111
umm go lower prestige? Don't have the kind of portfolio for Ivy's and Oxbridge.

>>18802169
>University of Edinburgh
I really want to know why you harbor this attraction. Trinity College looks nicer, so is it the city of Edinburgh that draws you perhaps? Is that the only institution in England that draws you, although you have no plans for graduate school.

>>18801995
The former, then the latter. I was interested because of the money, smart kids in my dorm doing it, tech being "the future", and especially the fact that it gave you hard skills and a concrete career path. I'm borderline sperg and didn't want to have to rely heavily on networking and interviews.
The courses turned out to suit me pretty well. I don't think CS/programming in general is soul-sucking, just certain aspects of corporate IT.
>more sustainable?
Not really sure. Probably some upper-level role more tied into management. I'll have to move up from code-monkeydom, but more broadly I don't want to depending on a salary past my 40s.

Why do you want to be an academic? What would you do if that was off the table?

>How old are you?
Too old. Mid 30s. I've desperately tried to change this but I honestly doubt I would be happy even if I lived in some hypothetical 'ideal' life. I feel like my problem is far bigger than just finding no success in life but the jist of it is i'm a low intellect retard who at the same time cannot live to be replaceable wageslave #35663685357895 for the rest of my life and work to pay bills so I can go to work tomorrow. Maybe if I had the strength to finish even sacrificing grades I would have had a different life but every day I think this was the only way I could've ended, I wanted to kill myself and only thought about death since I was 13.
It's so incredibly soul destroying to look back and realize that I was headed to this point all along.

>>18802033
How's your social life?

>>18802174
Alright, I don't know where you are located though, nor your portfolio. I'd still recommend University of New York and Boston University and the Humboldt University in Germany. In England there's also Durham or St Andrews, both solid.

>>18802212
meant for >>18801978
won't shit up the thread any further I'm getting off topic.

>>18800290
There are a handful of agnostics who have gone through the program; you won't face much personal adversity if you went. It IS a Catholic education and a Catholic school and that's the culture, so if you did go you would have to humbly accept that fact. There are no rules mandating attending mass or prayer but there's a few masses you would basically be required to attend throughout the four years; I would encourage that you attend mass or Byzantine Divine Liturgy anyways. There are 3 credits of theology every semester but there's a lot of real philosophical and literary meat there even for a non-believer.

I don't know much about St. John's but it's similar with a huge focus on the Great Books and primary sources. Experiential outdoor learning is also a core part of WCC's program which distinguishes it from other schools.

Math & Science is mostly serious, though a couple semesters of it could have been better in my experience. The track is Field Science 101 (nothing special but it teaches you about the biology/geology of the local area and a bit of astronomy) > Euclid/Greek Geometry 102/201 > Theory of Mathematics 202 (a cool class which uses Courant's book What is Mathematics?. It trends more philosophical than I imagine regular university classes do) > Statistics 301/302 (mostly not exceptional but still an important course) > Relativity 401 (very well taught and good class which uses Einstein and Feynman) > Evolution 402 (it's more a class about how to think well about scientific theories and ideas using the theory of evolution as a springboard. A lot of it is showing why American creationists are dumb-dumbs. It's certainly not anti-evolution but it's not explicitly pro-evolution either, although everyone I know who has come out of it believes the theory of evolution is a mostly complete theory of how animal life developed on this planet.)
>In sum, the science part is serious but is more properly called natural philosophy and will not be as scientifically thorough as a state program may, although your knowledge may be stronger at the end of it than if you went to a state school. You will do no serious research papers unless you aim to do one as a senior thesis.

Overall I think the education at WCC and similar schools is necessary to revive our culture. I would recommend looking into it and visiting if you're interested. The school does have its faults and growing pains but the things I've learned, the friends I've made, and the person I've become as a result of going there make me think there wasn't a better option. It's a place where you can spend a lot of time reading and discussing good things with good people with very good outdoor opportunities and a decent social life. If you expect any kind of hook-up culture it doesn't exist and don't come if you want to have sex before marriage with anyone there; it would be a fool's errand. The rules of the school can be tough for some and will get you kicked out if you break them.

>>18802212
Read the Dao De Jing anon. It brings much comfort and has gotten me through many a period of despair.

When we renounce learning we have no troubles.

The (ready) 'yes,' and (flattering) 'yea;'

Small is the difference they display.

But mark their issues, good and ill;

What space the gulf between shall fill?

What all men fear is indeed to be feared; but how wide and without end is the range of questions (asking to be discussed)! The multitude of men look satisfied and pleased; as if enjoying a full banquet, as if mounted on a tower in spring. I alone seem listless and still, my desires having as yet given no indication of their presence. I am like an infant which has not yet smiled. I look dejected and forlorn, as if I had no home to go to. The multitude of men all have enough and to spare. I alone seem to have lost everything. My mind is that of a stupid man; I am in a state of chaos. Ordinary men look bright and intelligent, while I alone seem to be benighted. They look full of discrimination, while I alone am dull and confused. I seem to be carried about as on the sea, drifting as if I had nowhere to rest. All men have their spheres of action, while I alone seem dull and incapable, like a rude borderer. (Thus) I alone am different from other men, but I value the nursing-mother (the Dao).

-Dao De Jing 20

>>18802172
I thought tens of thousands of students were normal. Mine has roughly 45k.

>>18802201
Interesting, but it's good that you go for a degree though. Helps you reach far, especially, as you say, to move up from being a code monkey. That's the really nice thing about CS though, you're set with a career path unlike most in humanities who bite and claw at each other for work, or end up disillusioned. I know a person who's what you'd describe as a code monkey, but he's happy with it for now, as he's in his mid twenties.
In terms of myself, in why I want to be an academic, is that I find writing papers fun, I love interacting with the community of scholars, read and discover new things while theorizing and debating others, and I certainly wouldn't mind teaching if I could do it at university level.
If I couldn't do academia I really don't know what I'd do. If I got lucky, steer my career over into field archaeology (although I guess it can be considered academia too), or museum work. Worst nightmare is manual labor work at a construction yard and what have you. Hopefully it does not come to that.

>>18802212
You're gonna make it brah, you gotta stop evaluating yourself as if there is only one normal track to life and it is college. College is a big help for some people, a hindrance that outweighs the help for some, and an optional bonus that not everybody gets overall. You are like a guy who lost a leg in a meaningless war so you think you're permanently "behind" two armed people, because by definition you are 1/2 of a normal person arm-wise. But a second arm is ultimately a nice optional bonus to life. A three armed guy would have a nice starter bonus to life but we're not all killing ourselves over being born with two.

Stop evaluating yourself on a relative scale where average normies are the standard and start evaluating yourself on objective criteria you decide upon with your own soul.

Whenever I read about famous writers and philosophers I make sure to note their career history. It's the norm, not the exception, to have some shit like a 5 year gap to serve in some war where they didn't even do anything exciting, or to do anonymous grunt work for 10 years just to survive before they could do the shit they're famous for, or to drop out three times and fail to get into the place they wanted or get the job they felt they needed. Schopenhauer published World as Will and Representation in 1818 and nobody paid any attention to it, he felt he was a failure for 25 years, sales were so nonexistent his publisher destroyed all the copies. Simply put nobody cared at all. Then he republished it in 1844 and suddenly became the most influential philosopher in Germany.

All of us have purposes and goals we have to develop out of the raw material we start out with. Some people get remarkable advantages that coincide perfectly with their goals, others get nothing but ass fucks and still overcome, and some even get all the advantages they could want and paradoxically are ruined and spoiled by it. The line between you and your life's goals is still a line even if it gets squiggly or even invisible or broken once in a while.

>>18800999
ausfag here, I don't understand the college system. Why does it matter what college you're in? Is it all not Oxford anyway?

>>18802174
Oxbridge don't offer Creative Writing anyway.

Best CW courses in UK for it are Manchester, Lancaster and East Anglia, as far as I know.

For English more generally, it goes Oxbridge, then Edinburgh, York, Warwick, UCL, and Manchester, (Trinity's around this level too)

>>18802331
>Is it all not Oxford anyway?
It is all Oxford, but the College system itself is more of a social activity. They tend to be more important for undergrads as they'll have some supervisors there, maybe some lectures, but overall, the college is a place where you socialize, eat, sleep, study and relax. They're a good way to divide up the different students, as campus living is almost mandatory, and most colleges offer on-site acccomodation.

>>18802368
But they do?
https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/graduate/courses/mst-creative-writing
https://www.ice.cam.ac.uk/course/mst-creative-writing

>>18801937

i go to law school there

>>18802297
I was fairly pragmatic. I wanted to max the quality of an average-or-below outcome. I might have been more idealistic if I was more confident and self-satisfied, but being somewhat neurotic kept me grounded.
I don't really relate to your POV but I empathize. Good luck.

>>18802423
Thank you, to you as well.

>>18802320
>>18802212
I doubt he will. Someone with drive and optimism can be a failure at 35 and move forward, but his own emotions have been working against him for his whole life. Not everyone is suited to this artificial environment. He's a relative success if he doesn't end up killing people, and there's probably something better waiting after death.

>>18801612
I'm pretty severely mentally ill (Schizoid, was hospitalized for over a year, etc.) I took a two year leave from highschool, came back, dropped out. Took at while came back, got my equivalency, started college, and dropped out. Took a year again, FINISHED a year of college, then dropped out again. That was three years ago, now, I'm enrolled in college again and starting this fall semester.
>Too many years have gone by.
If you're in America, nothing could be further from the truth. You're never too old to get a degree, there are plenty of 30 year olds in college. It's not "too late"

>>18801621
>>18801670
Go back to school, faggot. It sounds like you want to, so do it.
>just finish your commitment it means a lot.
Take your own advice, finish your degree.

>>18802019
You just inadvertently described University of Auckland as well, not surprising I guess.

>>18802518
I don't have the money to commit to college again. I would probably drop out again anyway because that chapter is closed and I know it. I'm burned out, >>18802457 is right. I'm just tired at this point. A few years ago I still had some will but I have given my best shot that my health permitted, so many times, and always missed the mark. I'm tired. It wasn't much better before my life crashed. I was doing well, had a lover, but I always felt that emptiness
>>18802320
I do not gauge my worth based on the normies, but there is no usefulness left in me. I understand what you say about handicaps but this is like being a penguin in the desert.
>>18802289
I'll sleep on it. I'm reading a lot but nothing clicks and I get more desperate every book I finish.

>Which University do you anons go to
Heidelberg, Philosophy. Currently doing my BA. I started studying when Corona just hit off so I don't know anyone, besides for a few interesting people I've randomly met. I'm more than half way through with my degree on points but it wasn't really anything great. Maybe other schools offer more, maybe it's just the fact of being an undergrad.
>what are you currently reading
Hegel for school and Stein in my free time
>how are your general experiences at uni?
Decent but very limited. I've been in some really great seminars, but the fact being that all philosophy chairs in Heidelberg sit empty with only 2 semester visiting professors (and some small and mediocre, decent staff) teaching right now, there is no good way to actually study beyond looking what there is. It kind of pushed me to make my own education. Which is good and certainly allows for a different perspective on philosophy but often leads to "unnecessary" difficulties. I really liked two professors I've had the chance to visit lectures and seminars by but sadly both of them are leaving after this semester. I'm very grateful for what they've done for me, yet I would wish to learn more (from them), simply said.

>>18802674
>I'm tired. It wasn't much better before my life crashed. I was doing well, had a lover, but I always felt that emptiness
Fine, and it'll end when you die, but what are you going to do in the meantime? If you don't want to college then don't, nobody is going to award you for wasting your life on things you don't care about. I don't believe you if you say you don't care about anything at all though, you're way too functional for that.

>but this is like being a penguin in the desert.
Antarctica is a desert anon. I had to, sorry.

>I'm reading a lot but nothing clicks and I get more desperate every book I finish.
I can dump some recs if you need, if you want to know more about any of them specifically just ask. These are vaguely in order of how highly I recommend them.

Notes from Underground
The Myth of Sisyphus
Le Chants de Maldoror
Kappa
Either/Or
Ningen Shikkaku
Don Quixote
Heart of Darkness

>>18802789
I don't know what to do in the meantime. I have no more drive to keep trying useless things I no longer even believe in. Yeah "celebrities" of the past had huge gaps, those were also other times. I'm just reading and trying to find some sense sonewhere. My issue was never lack of achievement but having no answer to the existential dread of participating to modern life and working to further a societal model I hate.

>>18802879
>I'm just reading and trying to find some sense sonewhere.
This counts as doing something in the meantime. You should lower your standards for success. If you simply read your whole life then die, well, it was the life you lived. Certainly it's something, the universe won't pass judgement.

>>18802903
It's not something, I live every moment like a skinless man in a world made of salt.

>>18802754
Tell us about the great seminars at least, got any favorite profs?

>>18799838
Do you know why so many people get 1sts at Oxbridge compared to other unis? Surely the work is much harder, so why is it more likely to get a first?

I attended Rice University over 9 years ago and dropped out after one year because of severe social anxiety. So because of that, I didn't really have many experiences. I did have have a few unique experiences here and there, which stand out in my somewhat dull life, but they are things that every college student experiences. I didn't make friends.

Right now I'm reaching the short stories of Katherine Anne Porter because I realized how little I've read of short stories so I'm just dedicating this year to focus on them.

>pic related
Philosophy, Politics and Economics
Doing a semester in Oxford next year, going to the UN with a classmate's NGO this summer. Travelling about Europe, hanging out at my friends' summer homes or at times even going solo.
Life couldn't be going much better honestly.

>>18803462
Once I get your relations to 190 I'm annexing you bitch

>>18803046
Well, my favorite prof was actually a Aristotelian? analytic philosopher focusing on argumentation and some other interesting pragmatic topics, right now, but in general also a manifold of other topics.
I took my first ever actual seminar - that wasn't introduction - with him, on, basically, the entire analytic, language philosophical history from Frege until Quine. It was quite brilliant but I was a first semester back then, so I only understood very roughly what it 'was about'. Looking back now it was probably still the best philosophical introduction I could have gotten, and it laid the groundwork for my later own orientation in methodology, and gave me a certain work ethic to always keep up and pursue things with a certain rigor. I was thrown into a class with 4th, 5th semesters and graduate students, and I hadn't read anything philosophical before starting my studies, besides for Nietzsche and Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer, and - of course - the Greeks; which is hardly anything, nothing for that specific class.
In my first semester I prepared myself to use, essentially, my time studying to become a writer; which I haven't abandoned now per se, but certainly pushed behind my pursuit of philosophy.

I would set this professor apart from the others which I liked because he was just so good, just such a -- person to experience; who's free in his Living and still manages to teach quite well, without even trying that much apparently. From what I've heard most others would agree.

As for the other seminars I liked, I enjoyed one seminar on the philosophy of technology, another one on Augustin's Confessiones, and maybe the seminar on Hegel I had this semester - which didn't spark my interest in Hegel so much as it made me-forced me read his works, which then rather sparked my current interest in Hegel.

>>18803407
Did you by any chance post in /adv/ in March about killing yourself?

>>18798781
> White University
Durham
> What are you currently reading
If you mean which subject, then Computer Science. If you mean which book, then Mrs Dalloway and the New Testament.
> General experiences at Uni
Pretty good Covid was shit tho

>>18802399
oh shit! hello, the law school is on the newton campus so i really havent been, ive heard the library is cool there.

>>18798875
Really? I only find that theology has an inferiority complex regarding philosophy among lay theologians (I'm American though). I only really encounter that mindset among members of various churches. At my school (local religious school I'm getting my BA at before doing an MDiv at a regional seminary) often philosophy and theology are viewed as twins in a sense. One of my friends is an Aquinas fanboy and has been reading the Summa while taking notes for as long as I've known him. I'm currently reading Descartes trying to eventually get to Kant and the professors are fun to talk with. They aren't true academics, though. All the professors are clergy with decades of experience on the field. My Philosophy prof had been a hospice chaplain for more than twenty years and his theodicy still holds value to me since he gave the story of how he lost three children just before it. I enjoy discussing literature with the president of my school as well as with various professors.
Was your education done in a secular manner, or do you intend to become clergy?

>>18801697
Which book?

>>18798781
>University of California: Davis
>Math and History
>States of Credit: Size, Power, and the Development of European Polities
I'm 23 transferring in from a community college, spent the last 4 or so years traveling and working. Chose the majors because they are the two most interesting to me, also the two I am the best at. Hoping to also combine them in an unorthodox way for a senior year thesis or maybe if I pursue a PhD. Don't have a set plan for after graduation. Either grad school, law school, architecture school, straight to job market, or pursue my personal projects I can turn into a business.
I'm really looking forward to university this fall. I have had nobody to discuss all the things I read and study. Friends and family listen sometimes but have zero real interest so it's not a real idea exchange. I hope I'm not disappointed

>>18805486

>>18805520
wat

>>18803462
>Doing a semester in Oxford next year
I thought Oxford didn’t allow for transfer students?

Why are there so many Oxbridge cunts? I guess they really aren’t that selective.

>>18803533
That sounds really nice. I wish there were more professors like that, and classes on Augustine sounds great. Wish I had that too during my uni’s mandatory one semester philosophy class

>>18805680
Plenty larp, others are genuine. It’s how it always is.

>>18805704
I know, I’m just salty that I can’t attend a uni with a fairy tale campus

>>18798781
>Which University
Pangasinan state university
>what are you currently reading
Rereading moby dick
>how are your general experiences at uni?
Pretty nice and comfy campus life desu

>>18805717
Yeah they are very lucky in that regard. So many beautiful architectural styles.

>>18805719
Tell more about Pangasinan Uni please. It’s seldom to hear about those outside the Western hemisphere.

>>18805663
Probably a "semester abroad" program. I saw one for my uni and it was like $20k on top of regular tuition so that anon must have money

>>18798781
Since this is the college thread I might as well be asking this here instead of a new thread. I'll be starting uni this year either doing a Translation, Linguistics, English or a Japanese degree. I'll be applying in that order but I'm wondering if I should drop the English and move Japanese up by one.

My question would be this: Can a non-/lit/ person survive through an English degree? I've been looking at the curriculum and I like all the writing related courses but there are also a lot of other ones like poetry that I simply don't care for now and don't want to gamble that I will a year or two from now.

I have always liked the language learning process and just being busy with the language itself. For this reason Japanese seems like the better choice to me but since it's not offered in the uni I'm looking to get into, I'd have to settle for a worse uni elsewhere.

>>18805802
I know one thing, do not settle for Japanese. You can always learn a language on the side and/or take some extra course credits. Class environment is equally important and you’ll most definitely be surrounded by people you’ll grow to dislike compared to linguistics and English.
In English, although you are not interested in poetry, the whole degree offers something more.

>Which University
Metallurgical engineering at Colorado School of Mines
>what are you currently reading
Stranger in a Strange Land
>how are your general experiences at uni?
Was great. I really loved labs and profs were available most of the time. I've met engineers from MIT, Cornell and other top universities and very few managed to impress me.

>>18805767
Nothing grandiose like Yale or Cambridge . Asides from being a uni in our small town, the general atmosphere is peaceful with an estimate population of 5k students(by me). Not so much in the boonies that it is common to see the same person in the same convenience store in the same ordinary day but not so urban either, the primary mode of public transportation is a tricycle. Uni distance is like 15 minute jog from home.

>>18805924
Sounds really comfy

>>18805897
Sounds like a really based university desu

>>18798781
I’m at Todai

>>18805976
eeeeeeeeeeh? sugoi!

>>18801937
>>18802399
>>18801595
Bostonchads, assemble

Starting Bangor to do mental health nursing in Jan

>>18805802
>I'll be starting uni this year either doing a Translation, Linguistics, English or a Japanese degree.
All horrible options. Translation is a dead field and people who study it academically need to look up the definition of sunk cost fallacy. Language degrees are for people too dumb to study anything else. Linguistics is interesting, but you'd get more actual hands on experience with language if you studied classics and took an online course on IPA. My advice is you should pick a specific country, preferably one with a niche and in-demand language (usually Arabic, Farsi, Russian, and Punjabi are safe bets, but you should really decide for yourself where you can see yourself working) then study towards a BA abroad at a school in a country that speaks that language. You'd get a far better and more immersive experience studying, for example, Japanese literature, in Japan, than you would studying Japanese in the West. Before you invest four or five years of your life into it, ask yourself what you want to get out of the experience.

>>18806058
Japan has strict visas, you can't work and study in Japan willy nilly AFAIK, if you're there for 1 year you have to live out of your pocket.

>>18798781
>uni
Cambridge (recently graduated)
>book
Algebraic Number Fields by Janusz
>general experiences at uni
Good. I liked the supervisions and lectures. A lot of cool people there. A shit ton of libtards though.

>>18805824
Thanks for the input. Quality of classmates and uni is definitely something I'm considering. Hopefully I can get into the translation or linguistics programs before having to consider English. I don't think I would hate it. I'm mostly afraid I'll have spend a two weeks of my life having to write some difficult assignment on a topic that doesn't interest me like Victorian poetry or whatever. Otherwise I'd be fine with English. This wouldn't be an issue with Japanese.

>>18806058
I don't see how Translation is a dead field so further elaboration would be appreciated. In terms of language degrees being for brainlets: exactly. I'm not interested in anything else and definitely couldn't make it through engineering or whatever. In terms of studying abroad: the uni offers a year of studying in Japan but that's best I can do. I couldn't possibly afford something like that economically. I do however hope to go abroad after undergrad if I can. As for what I want to get out of it: I did well in highschool but I also hated going through courses that I didn't like. So my dream has always been to get into a program that I would actually have personal interest in for college. I want to study something interesting for four years and find a corporate job I guess. If I like academia probably will stay with it and shoot for an ma or a phd.

>>18805486
based leila khaled appreciator

>>18802368
Not related but CW programs have very weird entry requirements. Why would you require a certain grade and dozens of references when I am sending you my portfolio. Believe me and let me in? High GPA requirement for CW doesn't make any sense.

>>18799773
Mathematics and theoretical computer science in particular is incredibly beautiful, and I think anyone who is into philosophy would be able to realise this if they put in the effort. Its a shame that software engineering and compsci are so often equated. I've found studying (theoretical) cs has only enhanced my appreciation for literature and philosophy, and I think its awful that people don't realise that humanities and science/maths go hand in hand (just look at Goethe as an arbitrary example).
Also, wrt the bugmen freshmen - my best friend from uni is a mathematician with a similar mindset as me (I.e. very keen on the beauty and philosophy of mathematics) and most of the rest are humanities students, so I think if you're unable to make friends outside of your subject then thats your own problem.
At the same time, anyone studying STEM purely for money reasons probably shouldn't (although its worth keeping in mind that humanities students tend to have more privileged backgrounds, so the motivation to get a degree with good monetary value isn't as significant)

>>18806248
Friend of mine studied Chinese and went there as well to study, back when Chinese was peak "language of the future", he never found work related to Chinese translation. He does something else now.

>>18806248
>I don't see how Translation is a dead field so further elaboration would be appreciated
It can be effectively replaced by AI.
Not in ten years. Today. Right now. Download DeepL and run an essay through it. Make it literary as you want. Probably you can fix any mistakes within under ten minutes. It used to take a week to write a good translation of a literary work.
Every person I've talked to who's in translation studies deflects this with some bullshit about the value of their degree because "they learned so much theory", but in the real world nobody gives a fuck how much literary theory you studied or how many obscure french essays you read about the value of literal translation vs localization and what it /really/ means to communicate an idea. If you want to spend 40 grand convincing yourself you're super special and important you'd have a better time spending that money on cocaine.
Maybe the translation industry will keep sputtering along for another decade or two, but its an empty pyramid scheme at this point. Just bullshit being propped up by more bullshit.
There are lots of universities in the third world that would be happy to take your money, and that offer a much better deal than what you get in the West. If you really want to study languages, go somewhere far far away (preferably where a lot of languages are spoken) and start studying. In particular, if you study towards a technical degree you can find work as a technical translator, which is harder to automate. Any language studies course is going to leave you off with the writing ability and cultural capital of a highschool graduate from whatever country speaks the language you studied. Why not learn an actual skill in that time instead?

>>18806634
>tfw
Yeah, this post is 100% right. You're far better off traveling to whatever country and using the college money as savings, and simply living there while you work. You learn the language better than the graduates AND you're working.
Now brb going to kill myself for wasting my life

>>18806661
I mean, for what the average Anglo spends on a college education, they could easily use that money to travel for 4-6 years (average time to complete BA) and pick up half a dozen languages fluently. Don't waste your life chasing bits of paper.

>>18798781
Electrical engineering and math PhD at ENS Paris.
Studying science and CE pretty much assured me to have a safe (but relatively boring) career. I've condemned myself to only read books on my free time. People reading in this field are rare and when you find some, it's very often only science fiction or fantasy. So I'm trying to have my professional and personal life/contacts very separated. I'm truly lucky I've kept my early life's friends who have opted for a different path.
Currently reading Foucault.

>>18806856
How you liking CE? (I assume this is computer engineering) What's your focus? I'm starting CE in the fall, I can't tell if it's watered down EE or not. All of the "CE" job listings I've looked accept either EE, Physics, or Math as well, depending on the focus. Working with FPGAs seems more like math + CS where dealing with anything on silicon is some variety of materials, physics, or EE. I assume I need at least a masters to actually get a job.

>>18806902
Ah, I'm retarded, I'm reading Rashoumon.

>>18806902
Oh yeah, probably should have tell Computer Engineering, I'm working on hardware and very low level software. My thesis took a big mathematics turn and I generally like it. As I mentioned the biggest downside is that most of the people you will interact with in this field are interested in pretty much nothing else. Otherwise I consider myself lucky to enjoy this path.
You're right, CS/CE/EE are kind of a blurry field, once you get to the job market, you can often manage to navigate between these 3 (full software CS to raw analogic EE is very hard though).
> Working with FPGAs seems more like math + CS where dealing with anything on silicon is some variety of materials, physics, or EE.
For what it's worth I did a semester in Rochester, NY and I had the same understanding. I've found that the anglosaxon fields of study are excessively subdivised.
> I assume I need at least a masters to actually get a job.
Not necessarily, but without a masters you're likely to end up as a code monkey; which can be fine depending on how you intend to live your life (notably if you intend to work the strict minimum and consider your work only as a way to afford living)

>>18800602
another brasenose fag also reporting in. just finished 3rd year

I'm at small, comfy school in England. I'm currently reading the Hagakure. My experience is that I started in my mid-20s and I commute in, with little interest in hanging out with teenagers (Now, I know what you're thinking: why are you here? Cuz we're here forever, remember). I'm studying mathematics with intent to getting a PhD. But, I've been having panic attacks and a 'mixed episode' over the summer and I'm concerned things won't settle down by the time school starts again. I may have to defer my final year. I may not start up again if I do so. I don't want to do manual labor forever.

I'm at a Nortwestern European university studying medicine and taking some engineering courses with it. My numerical analysis course is so soul suckingly hard and mainly boring that I'm going to drop the engineering.

I mostly hate my fellow medicine students, they're either purely in it for the money or they are retarded and have no hobbies outside drinking and studying.

>>18807142
>But, I've been having panic attacks and a 'mixed episode' over the summer and I'm concerned things won't settle down by the time school starts again.
Do you have medical follow-up on this ? Is this something you're used to ?

>>18807206
>I mostly hate my fellow medicine students, they're either purely in it for the money or they are retarded and have no hobbies outside drinking and studying.
Have you ever tried to determine the social origins of these people ? I mean just by talking with them. Are their parents in medicine too ?

>>18807206
I mean, drinking is just a way of coping

>>18807264
A lot of them have parents in medicine yes (so yes probably 25%-33% do it out of (subtle) parental pressure).
Mostly social origins are upper middle class.
People in medicine feel very unidimensional and are very sheepish imo (hence the vax campaign going on without nuanced criticism beyond 'muh antivaxxer' it's partly a huge moneygrab and only partly necessary imo, and that goes for a lot of chronic medicine (partly moneygrab, parly helpful).

I almost dropped out of medicine and switched to engineering but it feels even more soulless and in medicine there's more adventure I'd guess in real life.

>>18807264
I'm used to it but am only just now seeking medical whatever after ~10 years of this. Avoided doing anything about it all since I'm freaked out about the idea of taking pills but now I'm starting to think I may really have to.

Also, I just looked up Spoony after having not thought about him since like 2010. Hoe Lee Phuc, man.

>>18798781
Currently taking a break from college.

>>18798781
I was damn near suicidal at Berkeley, barely scraping through and basically apathetic to everything. Then I happened to pick up a copy of A Farewell to Arms, and sitting on the steps of wheeler hall half the week waiting to go into an absolute bullshit masturbatory eng lit circlejerk of a class, reading so starkly about people out in the world living, loving, losing, just existing and having actual connections and real feelings I knew I couldn't stay.

So I left. Was stupid to try for English anyways, it's worthless, but that's what you think at 18, go study what you love. Now I'm a bum, and I love it. I'm reading Going After Cacciato and feel like I'm gonna have to read it again, definitely not as on-the-surface accessible as The Things They Carried which I guess is why it gets passed on for high school reading lists and stuff.

>>18805683
Augustine I picked myself. In your P1 and P2 intro courses you just go through modern philosophy from Descartes to Kant, and maybe some others, and in P2 through basic propositional and predicate, and maybe modal logic.

The variety is in general that good because there is no stringently enforced ideology at the university. This may be because we're lacking teaching staff, and the entire department is kind of a ghost town right now, I've heard Heidelberg is usually quite Kantian and Idealist, and of course hermeneutic with Gadamer having taught here, but seems - to me at least - generally the case with European universities, that they offer far more variety in classes and in teachers.
Unfortunately this also seems to be the reason why European universities lose out so much in rankings compared to their US counterparts, with the latter offering a more predictable education and more stream lined staff and classes.

>>18805719
>Pangasinan State University
How is it? I'm also from a state u (nursingfag) somewhere in Luzon but I dropped out last year due to the corny pandemic protocols. I can't seem to cope with online learning, it's tedious. Just hoping that things would go back to normal.

>>18798957
i think i know you kek
brb gon shit on adorno's desk

>>18805680
easier to get into than ivy league

>>18798867
I've worked manual labour (warehouse packing, 12 hour shifts some days, 30 minute break, standing all day in steeltoe shoes) and currently working in an office. I find the mental exhaustion after working in an office is a bigger pain in the ass than the physical exhaustion you get from manual labour. I recommend trying out a few different jobs while you're young to get a sense of it, there's all sorts of temporary work out there.

>>18807778
Ivy League isn't hard to get into either. Whenever someone says they went to Oxford or Harvard I still perk up a little bit because I unconsciously assume they mean PhD, and even that only would only mean a 90% chance that they're from a wealthy background and have no thoughts of their own, 10% chance they're possibly mildly interesting. But then when it clicks that they're talking about undergrad I almost laugh every time. Imagine being proud of what fucking high school you went to, 50 years after it meant anything at all.

Anyone bragging about that shit is 18-20 and very sheltered.

>>18798781
Any Canadians here? It sucks doesn’t it?

>>18807748
from discord or irl?

>>18807836
Biggest issue with manual labour is your coworker can often be not only uninteresting, but outright assholes that will pester you. My last job like this was fine in itself, but all my colleagues made it into a cesspool of playground drama

>>18806583
Seeing beauty in it is one thing, being good at it is another. I appreciate physics and math philosophically (see >>18799907) but what’s the point if bugman who’s the idea of the pinnacle of art is anime can btfo me skillwise. Like his brain was just wired differently. What should people like me do? Go to something they feel naturally talented in, or go towards something that is intellectually and practically attractive while also suffering from mediocrity?

>>18798781
Currently attending one of the best universities in the Nordics when it comes to CS, doing CS. I'm a /lit/-tourist and only on here right now since I've been on a novel-binge recently, reading Dorian Gray.
>how are your general experiences at uni?
Awful due to covid but things will be better this year.
Sometimes I wish I'd have studied something related to the arts or the humanities but I quite frankly enjoy programming a whole lot and can't see myself working with anything else in the future. Unless I somehow get rich and decide to write novels in my study, but I don't see that happening either.

>>18807873
where did you go for your undergraduate and your PhD?

Classics PhD at a second rate University in Canada. Will probably off myself since job prospects are nil...

>Reading?
Meditations on the Tarot
Freud's Introductory Lectures
Wickham's Framing the Early Middle Ages

>Experiences?
Pretty shit since all the classes where online this last year (1st year of my program). Things are looking up though since I'm working on the languages and trying to set up archaeology opportunities next year

>>18798781
Finished Oxford master’s in Byzantine history. Starting DPhil at Oxford or PhD at Vienna in October/September respectively. Am leaning 90% towards staying in Oxford, but not 100% sure.

Currently reading Kaldellis’ Streams of Gold, Rivers of Blood.

Enjoyed the fuck our of undergrad, but during my master’s degree I got really ill and needed a few years out. My health has never been right again so I’m a little apprehensive about starting my doctorate, but there’s nothing else I can imagine enjoying as much.

>>18798781
This is a 30-year-old boomer board. I haven't been to university in years.

>Which University do you anons go to
University of Toronto
>what are you currently reading
Infinite Jest, Stoner & lots of H.P. Lovecraft.
>how are your general experiences at uni?
I love it. I study English and writing. I want to do grad school and pray I one day get a Ph.D.

>>18808631
What's your research?

I'm the poster above and am getting more interested in later era (currently working on Goths in Greece/Italy in 4th-5th C.)

>>18807873
Post-graduate is where it’s at. I don’t know why people put so much pride in their undergrad when it’s of the least importance.

>>18808195
Karolinska institutt?

>>18808631
>Finished Oxford master’s in Byzantine history
Got any advice anon? I am starting that degree this autumn and some tips would be great!

Cal Poly SLO -> Hochschule Biberach -> TU Delft
The program sizes are gradually decreasing, which I greatly prefer.
When the curriculum is less dogmatic and top-down, and when the collective is able to actually cooperate and assist on another in a non-performative way, something special can happen.
I am going to read and re-read some of Plato's dialogues, such as the Theaetetus.

>>18803333
Well I noticed at my college that a lot of people were just totally obssessed with their subject, to the point of autism in a lot of cases. I studied music and I know it's kind of a compulsive obssession for me.

I think Oxbridge attracts more of those kind of people than other UK unis, where students are more likely to have chosen a subject at random/ chosen one that could get them in somewhere. And obviously if you're obssessed, you'll probably do better in exams and coursework

>University
University of Nottingham, Politics and IR
>Reading
Confessions of a Mask
>Experiences
Pretty shit for my first year last year. Managed to get elected as the social secretary for a society. Not met much /lit/minded people though which sucks. Hopefully next year, this covid shit gets out of the way and the in face lectures and seminars happen again.

>>18809436
>Confessions of a Mask
Excellent book, really liked it along with The Sound of the Waves.

I find it really interesting seeing university students (especially fellow britfags) post here. I've never met anyone I'd suspect of browsing /lit/ in person, and I would never bring it up in conversation. But it's strange to think that among my coursemates there may be one or two people who also browse this board.

>>18800365

fucking kek

Since here seem to be a few Oxbridge people and I got nobody else to ask:
I'm 27 and finishing two Master-degrees in subjects in the humanities next year, but studied mostly in second rate german universities. I'd really like to do a DPhil in Oxford and have a topic with a prof specialized in a subject close to it in mind. Unfortunately one of the consequences of Brexit is Non-UK fees for continental EU citizens, so even regular scholarships from germany won't be sufficient for the fees and I'm not rich, I'd have to get funding from a college. How do I get not only a place but place plus funding? Or what can I do to increase the chance at least?

>>18809467

kek, I had recent shower thoughts about starting a society named neoliterature, perhaps offering an alternative to join instead of the current pozzed Literature society and get /lit/minded to get together. Think it wouldntn gain any traction though. What are your thoughts?

University of Leeds

Reading: Feline Philosophy

Experience: Shit, the spiritual crisis and depression has almost killed me. If i manage to get let in for a go at final year I want to find some redemption before I graduate or drop out entirely and kill myself.

>University
Stuttgart
>Reading
Vogl: Kapital und Ressentiment; Harper-Scott: The Event of Music History
>Experiences
In my experience german universities do in general have a good standard in their education meaning competences of the professors. But many students just don't seem to care for their subject, even in humanities. So excellence is rare in my opinion. Only very few universities have a group of really inspiring people working and studying there, which in my experience does correlate with student numbers. So especially socalled 'mass universities' do have some excellent people on an international level. But that's just my 2ct

>>18809521
I'm also an international, although doing my MSt at Oxford, hopefully a DPhil too. Although I am self funded.
The best thing you can do is apply for multiple funding opportunities, preferably a scholarship that targets people that go to elite uni's, also apply for the numerous Oxford scholarships in Humanities. The best thing you can do is prepare now, and read up on it. Sell yourself hardcore, like Americans do.

>>18809624
Isn't it the way that with a regular application you already apply for the Oxford scholarships automatically?
Even though you are self funded, do you know other funding opportunities in the UK or were you referring especially to scholarships from my homecountry?
Also thanks for your idea to combine multiple scholarships and increase the chances by applying to many at once.
Also: You do usually make contact with a possible supervisor, right? Does this have any impact on the application process or are the decisions made by other people?
I really appreciate your input

>>18802169
I'm about to graduate Trinity in English.

The course and selection of work is great. The help from professors is non-existent and you're expected to feel you're way through it by yourself. It mirrors an Oxford model with a sink-or-swim approach; unsurprisingly most sink and the department is too feckless and disorganized to really care. On the flip side, you're given infinite time to complete assignments as long as you have a half-convincing reason.

Dublin as a city is pretty boring. It's small and expensive. It has an atmosphere, however, that's quite hard to beat; generated entirely by very chatty locals. If you can drive, it's great for quick road trips into the countryside (which is the real Ireland) and kino fishing excursions (which you just need a cheap half an hour train ride for).

The best part about Trinity, and the best part about Ireland, are the people.

>>18809722
Np, anon.
>you already apply for the Oxford scholarships automatically
That's the case for most scholarships at Oxford, but with some you have to apply manually, like the Ertegund scholarship. In regards to other scholarships, do look for ones in your home country, especially the ones, like said, targets people at MA and PhD level who apply/go to elite uni's, because those do exist most certainly in Germany. And even though many regular scholarships don't cover the full costs, it's always a boon to have as a reserve. In terms of looking for opportunities within the UK, that's more relevant once you are inside the system and look out for post-doc positions, as they have many great programs aimed for both nationals and internationals studying there.
>You do usually make contact with a possible supervisor, right? Does this have any impact on the application process or are the decisions made by other people?
The answer to this is both yes and no. It's smart to contact a potential supervisor/someone who'd you'd like to work with, but in terms of application process, it is usually controlled by other people in the department. However, if you and some other dude are competing, the decision may fall on the professor, who in all likelyhood will choose the one that he knows something about. That's why contact is quite useful, as you make yourself known.
So all in all, do make contact, even though the ones that handle applications are different people, as it may help in a tight race (which it most certainly is at Oxford). That said, contacting your potential supervisor does not guarantee an offer, but it's not a waste of time either.

>>18809843
How's the IRA scene?

Starting Nord University (Sponsored by Nord VPN) in two weeks bois, going to be fun 5 years I hope

>>18810306
what are you going to study?

>>18810404
"Grunnskolelærer 5-10." This basically translates to "Elementary teacher grades 5-10." so kids between 10 and 15 years old.

Going for mathematics, social studies, English and PE.

>>18810414
Du får ha lykke til!

>>18810432
Åh shit, takker mann. Forhåpentligvis går det fint, bare første gangen jeg studerer på høyt nivå så jeg er redd for at det kan være mye å sette seg inn i.

/"Ah shit, thanks man" Hopefully It'll work out fine, this being my first time studying at a higher level makes me a bit anxious since there can be so much to get in to"

>>18810452
I am certain you'll do just fine, although it may seem daunting at first. Nord seems comfy though.
Hopefully the kids won't be too tough to handle.

>>18810536
The kids I don't find too daunting, the standing in front of the class is a bit spooky though, but hopefully, It'll work out.

>>18810587
Yeah! Just remember to make it fun for them.

What a bunch of posh fucking faggots here

>>18808637
You can still talk about how your experience was, what kids should focus on, the job market etc. Many people like me come here to learn through others' experiences.

>>18808923
Nah that's for people doing medicine, I have no interest in that

Calling all DROPOUTchads. Leaving (((academia))) was one of the greatest decisions I've ever made.

>>18798781
3rd-worlder ESL anon here.
currently doing an MA in English Lit. what are the chances of me finding a PhD scholarship ANYWHERE in the world to catapult me out of this place? I can feed on noodles for 4 years straight till I graduate with a PhD, and that wouldn't be a problem.
Any tips?

>>18811986
You sound pretty butthurt though. What were your subjects, how far did you get in academia? Why leave?

>>18812005
Can you speak German? If so, there are some scholarships in Germany for talented people which are quite generous

>>18809843
i just got an offer to study history in trinity, would you think it feasible to live somewhere outside dublin, like wicklow instead? not really a big fan of city life, and the rent prices in the city are absurd thanks to all the tech firms

>>18811986
>Leaving (((academia))) was one of the greatest decisions I've ever made.
I had the same thoughts after I left, but after the honey moon period was over I had realized what I terrible mistake I had made

>>18811969
Uppsala then? Or Oslo or Copenhagen.

>>18812416
If you have early morning classes it’s not a good place.

>>18811986
hi anon

i go to regent university

>>18813056
why are so many US universities private. Feels like it loses its whole meaning over there.

>>18813139
that's just how things developed here historically. not like we had 100s of years of monastic tradition

>>18813283
I wonder what will happen when university degrees are completely inflated in value and there are not enough jobs for masses of indebted graduates.

>>18807397
>Now I'm a bum
could you elaborate? how do you survive?

>>18813330
are you joking? we're already past that stage

I went to the University of East Anglia because I had to stay living in Norwich. Then I dropped out because I am mentally ill and have no work ethic. I was there 2 years and 9 people killed themselves.

Have any of you ever met someone who attended later in life not of the desire to escape wageslavery but purely for the sake of it?

>>18813395
no. I'm sincere. I mean COMPLETELY inflated as in not even averaging STEM gets you a job anywhere.

>>18813495
I think by that time we will have ubi. Honestly would be surprised if we don’t have ubi within 5-10 years.

>>18813344
Well, slightly less of a bum these days. I drove an old Corolla around the country, loafing, delivering food in it to feed myself and keep the thing running, reading Kerouac and Thoreau (who are strange to read if you’re already on the road), even competing in regional fighting game tournaments as I went, though that never paid more than a few hundred bucks. There wasn’t any real future in it, but I was so much happier then than at any other time in my life that I didn’t much care. I miss it.

The car broke down eventually, as cars do. Now I’m heartbroken after a fling in Dallas. I have a car payment every month. I pay outrageously for health insurance, am timely at paying rent, consider the next pivot of my career.

I want to get back out there, before long, but it costs so much to go sit under a tree sometimes. But at least I’ve lived, really lived, decided to live and felt what that is. There’s something in that.

>>18812302
Any grants for people from non-EEA European countries?

>Which University do you anons go to
University of NEET. I dropped out of high school a decade ago
>what are you currently reading
Mediations on the Tarot
Duns Scotus’ works
>how are your general experiences at uni?
A few years ago I started playing closer attention to my surroundings and now have a stronger sense of place. Things appear more varied, the warms and cools of colors look more exaggerated, even my little bedroom is so much more comfy. At night I walk around the city and love to see the warm window lights. Forget about the nondualism meme, haecceitic contemplation is where it’s at

>>18798781
Not one chad from Catholic University of Leuven, Belgium here?

reading The conquest of New Spain by Bernal Diaz
Uni was okay. Finishing up my thesis and I'll graduate. Last year just sucked cause I lost my last year as a student to corona. No parties, no uni life... nothing.

>>18813436
Someone killed themselves in the acommodation I moved out of a couple months ago, shit was weird as fuck. They brought them out the room in a body bag and everything was back to normal the next day

>>18813436
is it really that bad? i've been loads for various reasons and it didn't seem that bad. the concrete everything is a tad depressing tho

>Which University do you anons go to
Oxford (graduated years ago)
>what are you currently reading
The Linguistics of British Sign Language
>how are your general experiences at uni?
All positive. We were told at the beginning that these are the only three years in your life (all likelihood) where you will have total freedom to become an expert in something and that's hopefully exactly what happened.

>>18814109
It's not too bad. I think because of it's leftie reputation it has more faggots, and they are more likely to kill themselves. Norfolk is a pretty comfy place to live.

>>18814137
>We were told at the beginning that these are the only three years in your life (all likelihood) where you will have total freedom to become an expert in something
Outright lie desu. The workload is intensive, but three years is not enough and is far from immersive enough. True expertise happens at PhD level and post-doc, certainly not undergraduate.

>>18814219
I've yet to meet a PhD student who felt like it wasn't a case of tremendous diminishing returns. I went as far as a Masters' in my field and almost all of us decided that was the point to get off the ride.

>>18814236
Understandable, given how most don't bother to pursue a PhD. Most PhD students have imposter syndrome, but the experience is well worth it if one is extremely interested in X field, especially when one is done and can move onto post-doc applications.
That's when expertise kicks in anyhow. One might choose a general direction at undergraduate, but the courses are generally too shallow, and the scope of teaching tend to be more breadth than depth. At least, from my experience.

>>18814168
yeah i'm in norwich currently and it's way nicer compared to a lot of places I've been. you can spot the students from a mile away tho thanks to their dyed hair and 10 inch boots

I have a Computer Science degree, but universities are a meme and a complete waste of time unless you absolutely need the piece of paper for something (working overseas etc.)

>>18814352
>unless you absolutely need the piece of paper for something (working overseas etc.)
Literally me

>>18814352
>t. codemonkey

>>18814377
he has a degree so he shouldn't be a code-monkey.

>>18814393
95%+ of cs grads are codemonkeys, retard

>>18814400
Ok.

UC Berkeley
I'm reading Confessions of a Mask and The Ottoman Empire, 1300-1650: The Structure of Power

>>18814563
what are you studying?

>>18802222
St Andrews is not in England and you're not getting in without a portfolio which is oxbridge tier or rich parents. Waste of quads.

>>18814607
Alright.

>>18813947
If you do your PhD ("Promotion") in Germany, the institution you do your studies in has to be in Germany. Different to undergraduate and master scholarships your nationality doesn't matter (the scholarships are granted by the "Begabtenförderungswerke" - one close to every major political party (Heinrich Böll Stiftung, Konrad Adenauer Stiftung, Naumann Stiftung etc.) one to the religious denominations (which are really opem and progressive unlike religious stuff in other nations - strongly suggest considering them! (Cusanuswerk, Avicenna Stiftung etc.)) and the most career oriented and comeptitive 'neutral' one (Studienstiftung des Deutschen Volkes)). All are funded by state money and pay equal amounds. You can apply to multiple ones simultaneously, but need the acceptance from a German uni first.

>>18798781
I graduated from hs not too long ago and am currently doing gap year stuff (got a shitty retail job, planning on getting my license and doing self-study). I also plan to study to take the SAT again since my grades were really bad and I would need to get a good SAT score to go yo the college I'm eyeing (one of the better ones in the South). I hope I didn't fuck up too bad, if only I had some semblance of a work ethic. Any tips bros?

>>18814639
So I need to already be a student at a German uni before I can get accepted for these stipends?

>>18798781
I go to Imperial college london

>>18814669
I am very glad that Europe don't have SAT's. They seem like a waste of time, but I am not very familiar with the American system. In terms of tips for work ethic? Hard to give tips on, as it's you yourself that need to pull the punches. Try preparing for college, would be an advice. Read some articles on the field you want to study, get an overview of the latest research being done. See if any sub-areas interests you more than others.

>>18801814
>anglia ruskin in cambridge
>east of london
it's northeast anon and isn't bad, plus cambridge is a lovely place

>>18798781
I'm at... maritime university.

>>18801871
>>18799773
Which uni are you at? What were the entry requirements?

I'm 22 and did my bachelors in software engineering and computer science. During which I took electives in philosophy and anthropology. I'm now working as a technical writer for a large engineering consultancy. Would any of this help me get into an arts masters program? Or are any further non-related studies I take bound to bachelors degrees?

I would give it up if I could just find a course I really loved. My step brother did PPE at oxford but I could never match his grades due to reasons. I know I would have loved PPE but I need to find something else. Recently I found myself looking up universities where Mark Fisher spoke in his youtube lectures including an arts university in Ghent, Belgium. I want to read, write, theorise, collaborate with others, publish. I'm not too attached to my country and would be willing to relocate. I just want to find my thing.

>>18814168
norfolk is incredibly comfy you just have to get away from the urban sprawly areas and the rich london cunt areas

>>18814949
Do you say to people that you study in Cambridge? What do you say if they're all "oh wow, *the* Cambridge?" and you respond "No, Anglia Ruskin."
Has that ever happened?

>>18814953
I'm from Ghent, studying medicine there rn but have some friends in some art schools here

>>18814977
nigger I went to the uni of essex and dropped out, I have no shame but know that people look down on me for those facts. ruskin is fine, just say from the start that you go to anglia ruskin in cambridge.

Wow this thread is freaking long! (I say "freaking now as I am posting on a forum of educated, cultured people, instead of "fucking" that I usually use, due to having a working class background.) I will read the entire thread through and compare the education of everybody else to mine, to know whether I am of pariah caste on /lit/ for not having right type of education and many enough academic books read. I myself have a degree on design from college and another degree, or maybe even two, on design coming from a uni. My studies mostly consist of drawing, painting, sketching, making prototypes and working with CAD (computer aided design). The load of books to be read is about 1/10th of those who study, say, philosophy, history or psychology. This is only my own assumption, though, as all the people in my family are pretty uneducated and I do not know anyone else who is highly educated, aside from my student colleagues. I was about to go and study psychology as I was in high school, but skipped as the real calling of my life is to do something creative.

>>18814887
I mean I'm not sure what I even want to study anymore, the typical situation of wanting to do humanities but wanting a stable STEM job applies to me.

>>18814990
Well I did not mean it condecendingly

>>18815076
Ah yes, that's the horrid duality of it. Excellent pay in a position that is potentially soul-sucking or work that one loves with meager pay. Given how you are quite young you still have time to figure it out.
Personally I ended up going for humanities, because I love what I do and academia. I could never imagine myself anywhere else, as I have worked manual labour before and hated it.

>>18798781
>Which University
King's College London, Recent Grad

>What are you reading
Just recently got back in to ancient Greece so re-reading Aristotle after doing Socrates and Plato

>How did you find uni
Hated that shit, guess I got a BEng out of it though

>University
University of Washington
>currently reading
Spring Snow
>how are you general experiences at uni?
Pretty boring desu. I've completed most of my linguistics studies during lockdown so I feel as if I've missed out on getting to socialize with people in my field of study. Job prospects are non-existent and I wish I had studied something else.

>>18815191
I have a mate who did Linguistics and ended up working on NLP software out in China, you'll get a job anon