/lit/ - Literature

24
Moby Dick
Against The Grain: How Agriculture Hijacked Civilization

>>18796411
>32
>I don't have one
>4 on my computer (pic related), a couple more on the kindle and some physical editions.

>>18796411
64
The Bible
The Bible

>>18796411
>20
>Either "Crime & Punishment" or "Confessions of a Mask"
>The Geneology of Morals

>>18796457
>He's reading off of a computer screen

>>18796514
I can read on any fucking thing, that is because I'm a reader Chad and got superior genes. Now, kneel and put your boipussy out to be impregnated by me.

>22
>No fucking clue
>The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea

>younger than you (you reading this post)
>book you should have read by now
>smarter than you (this is the receipt)

>>18796555
You are dumber than me if you feel like being smarter than most anons is something to be proud of.

>>18796575

>>18796597
I can't believe Yujiro is gay

>>18796603
Who?

>>18796605
This is a website originally created to discuss japanese cartoons and comic books

who do you think he is?

>>18796605
.....What?

>>18796555
You're like smart or something?

>>18796411
>20
>Anna Karenina
>Emma

>>18796575
no im smarter than you and im proud of it and you think you're the smartest person alive, no you don't, yes you do

>>18796617
yes probably

>>18796652
t. brightest retard on /lit/

>26
>The Sea Wolf
>Dune

>33
>Phenomenology of Spirit

Currently reading:
The Neuroscience of Intelligence
Understanding Conciousness
The Life of Greece
The Unholy Consult
Beserk
Meditations on the Tarot
The Signature in All Things (reread)

I read multiple books at once all the time.

>32
>Moby-Dick
>Clarissa by Harold Bloom ( i seriously don't remember who the author is)

>>18796709
>the sea wolf

good choice buddeh

>>18796471
>being this much of an oldfag
What are you doing on an american forum dedicated to discussion of japanese cartoons for teenagers?

>>18796772

>>18796532
No, that's because you can't afford a physical book

>>18796709
I thought that bag handle was a nice asian ass upskirt for a second

>>18796411
asuka is a cute

30
Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban
The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner

>>18796411
27
The Horse and His Boy (C.S. Lewis)
La Pasión Turca (Antonio Gala) and Tokyo Ueno Station (Yū Miri).

>>18796532
you're poor

>21
>No fucking idea
>WE

>19
> The Art of Seduction for clinical schizophrenics
> Detecting CIA agents in the wild

>>18796411
18
Catch 22
Technological Slavery

>21
>Notes from Underground
>The Idiot and The Icepick Surgeon

>27
>Moby Dick
>Jigoku by F. Gardner

>>18796721
>Beserk
Mangas aren't books retard

>>18796411
>>Brothers Karamazov
Cringe

>21
>The Castle
>Franny and Zooey

>>18796411
>21
>Brothers Karamazov
>The Sickness Unto Death

>>18796624
Good luck with Emma my friend. Unfortunately it's where my comfy train stopped. I went
War and Peace -> Anna Karenina -> Count of Monte Cristo -> Pride and Prejudice -> Emma
cause I wanted to stay in that 19th century aristocrat headspace, but Emma finally snapped me out of it. Couldn't get through it. Too girly, too worldly, too shallow. Maybe I'm trying Les Miserables next. But that's probably it for me an Austen, even though I really liked P&P.

>>18797556
Berserk is pretty artsy as far as manga goes though, anon

>23
>Dubliners
>Ulysses

>>18796411
>51
>Blood meridian
>Moby dick

24
the satanic verses
thirst for annihilation

datamine away, FBI

>>18796411
18
Heinrich Böll's Like a Bad Dream
Aristotle's Physics

>25
>Not a clue
>The Three Musketeers

>>18798072
What ya doin here gramps?

>>18796411
>29
>Hunger
>Knut Hamsun, reisen til Hitler

>>18796411
40
So the Wind Won't Blow it all Away
Speedboat

Speedboat might become my new favorite, I think it may have influenced Brautigan's last two novels and Adler was most likely influenced by Brautigan.

>>18796411
>30
>The Count of Monte Cristo
>Romance of the Three Kingdoms

>>18798068
faggot

>>18796411
>27
>Villette by Charlotte Brontë
>The snow country by some japanese dude

>>18796411
18
Pale Fire
The Brothers Karamazov

>22
>A Hero of Our Time
>Gormenghast

>>18798802
:^)

>>18796411
> 22
> catch-22
> the turn of the screw by fag james

>18
>None I just started reading this year
>Nicomachean Ethics and Crime and Punishment

>>18796411
26
House of Leaves/Pale Fire
The Way of Kings (1st of the Stormlight archive)

>>18796846
Where can I find this timeline? Looks super interesting.

Why do you people never discuss literary fiction here despite most of you progressing that karamazov, crime and punishment, Anna Karenina, the sea wolf, house of leaves, pale fire etc etc are your favourite books?

>>18799129
Because they are shitty irrelevant books. There's nothing to discuss about them. The most interesting thing about them is to say that you've read them, or occasionally remark how interesting/kino is the Grand Inquisitor parable without actually discussing its content.

>>18796411
>24
>Frankenstein
>Paradise Lost

>28
>House of Leaves
>The Temple of the Gold Pavilon

>>18798761
>>18798106
>>18797969
>>18797877
>>18797527
>>18797423
>>18797199
>>18797194
>>18796624
>>18796533
why are zoomers more well-read than millenials and boomers?

>>18799133
Why are you even here?

>>18796411
> Brothers Karamazov
Sneed. The "I don't have a personality but I'm slightly more highbrow than the people that write Harry Potter" answer.

>>18796411
34
The Good Earth/Worthing Saga
Sabriel

>>18796532
Dude, there's studies where it shows you're more inclined to become stoic when reading from a screen.
Turning a page after reading does something beneficial for your memory, I forget what but it was pretty significant.

>>18796709
>>18796938
God damn I need to stop watching porn.

>>18799156
I dunno but I come from a cinephile background and I started getting sick of all the garbage & uninteresting same old films so I just started to get into books instead (mainly philosophy). I'm only starting tho

>>18796411
>>Your age
36
>>Fav book
War and Peace
>>The book you're currently reading
Faust by Goethe pt 2

>>18799802
Are you German or reading a translation? I'm German myself but struggle to get through part 1. If it's not prose I just cant concentrate on the sentences and lose sight of the greater context. I've been forced to read it in such small portions that I may as well start over. Any tips for prepping my brain to adequately prosses literature in verse form?

>>18800042
I'm listening to a British cast perform it in English. Sorry, I just want the story, and I don't know German. I thought it got much better after a bit. I trash talked it the other day on here, but it got better and ended really nicely. The second part is completely different. I didn't know it was German folklore before Faust wrote his play. I looked it up, because I was confused after it just jumped to pt 2 without any explanation.

>>18796532
>screen reader is a faggot

>>18800066
The first part starts shifting gears from Walpurgis night and on. Part 2 will need some complementary material to really appreciate, but it is better than 1

>>18796411
>21
>The Confessions of Saint Augustine
>Invisible Cities

>>18796603
Probably bisexual since he does have a biological son

>>18796411
>18
>L'Etranger
>One Hundred Years of Solitude

>18
>cannot pick / havent found it yet
>the bell jar

>19
>Blood Meridian
>Brothers Karamazov

>20
>Stoner
>The Sickness Unto Death

>>18796411
I'm 18
My favorite book is either the Confessions of St. Augustine, Brothers Karamazov, or The Adolescent.
I'm currently reading On Living and Dying Well by Cicero (Penguin Classics), the Hobbit, Kângë Kreshnikësh (a traditional Albanian epic poem), and The Bible

>28

>oblomov? or maybe hunger by knut hamsun


>the China essays from Simon Leys

i'm happy to have found /lit/ after years wasted on other boards so i'm even going to throw you my two cents on it:
>"president Mao's new clothes" is very valuable historically speaking, but a bit boring. (think chinese dudes backstabbing each other for decades and falling in disgrace soon afterwards). still a unique view in the workings of maoism.
>currently on "chinese shadows", which feels much more comfy as it is directly inspired by his own experience and thus much more lively. also he hilariously throws shade at most foreigners, reporters and sinologists talking about anything china of the time.
>only halfway so far, but Simon Leys perfect style of writing, wit, and first hand knowledge of what he's talking about makes it a very solid read.
why aren't you reading Simon Leys right now, anon?

>>18796411
>18
>haven't read enough to chose one, but honestly, a book is a suicide postponed anyway.
>Thus spoke Zarathustra

>>18801094
>pic related
is this you?

no honestly, how can you read more than one book at once?

>>18796411
>27
>Memoirs of Hadrian
>Shakespeare's Sonnets
Rough jannies do shake the darling threads of /lit/

>>18799156
>muh generations
fag

>>18796721
I loved The Life of Greece. Durant speaks of the various greek civilisations with such enthusiasm and reverence that one is completely convinced of their greatness by the end of it.

>>18801109
I meant >>18801056
Somehow fucked that up

Are these 18-21 zoomers actually posturing or...?

>20
>The Master and Margarita
>Stoner

>>18801128
They're only just getting into literature and want to jump into the deep end as one does. I started at 15 by reading Kafka and Dosto as juvenile posturing, I didn't *really* grasp the works I was reading, but they made some sort of impression that stuck. Misguided or over-confident enthusiasm should be gently redirected, not berated, I think.

>>18799129
>neighbors are nigger
>needle will inject poisonous nerve gas

>>18799088
>Crime and Punishment
You picked a shit book to start your reading. Easily one of the most overrated books out there.

>>18799441
based, the runner up would be the other massively overrated book, Crime and Punishment

Age: 30
Favorite: Portrait of a Lady (James)
Reading: The High Window (Chandler)

>>18797072
The book you're currently reading gave me the willies. Terrifying little book that one.

>>18801128
I'd guess watching the Millenials getting whacked put some fear into them. Changing reading options makes them feel safer.

I started with philosophy at 14-15 y.o., not a zoomer though.

> 20
> Can't say I have one. Jenny by Sigrid Undset maybe
> Dubliners

>21
> stoner
> currently reading "deep survival" since i want to branch out from fiction. will read kafka on the shore next

>>18798139
Jeg har Reisen til Hitler sjølv. Jævlig lang, så hakke lest enda. Er den bra?

>>18796411

>19
>The Chinese Bandit
>Red October

>>18796411
26
picrel
none I don't read books

>>18796411
25
The Old Man and the Sea
The Grapes of Wrath (just finished)

>>18796411
20
A Personal Matter, Norwegian Wood/A Wild Sheep Chase*; Thus Spoke Zarathustra, or Faust.
Stein, Collected Works; Hegel, Science of Logic

*There is something idyllic about these books I enjoy, and they actually made me feel something. It's light enough literature to enjoy and live, but not too light as to become reductionist or boring.

>>18796411
19
The Color out of Space by H.P. Lovecraft
H.P. Lovecraft's works and Mein Kampf
>inb4 fiction faggot
>inb4 that's a short story not a book
Kiss my ass

>>18803570
OP asked for one fav and one current, yet here you are disrupting the formulae of the entire thread. stupid fucking zoomer

>>18796411
23
The Savage Detectives
St. Augustine's Confessions

30
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
Currently reading Piranesi, The Years Of Rice And Salt and Hogg simultaneously.

>>18796411
>25
>The Bible
>Hegel on Self-Consciousness: Desire and Death in the Phenomenology of Spirit

>18.
>Masters of deceit.
>The Bear and the Dragon.

>>18803641
>Hegel on Self-Consciousness: Desire and Death in the Phenomenology of Spirit

what this

>>18796411

>Your age
25

>Fav book
In the Buddha's Words

>The book you're currently reading
The Russian Revolution

>26
>War & Peace
>The Voyage of the Beagle

>>18796411
>20
>TBK
>2666

>>18799156
Consumerism failed for Gen X and Millennials and we zoomers not only know it but watched it in our families. It kills me to see my mom scroll mindlessly on twitter and get pointlessly mad over some literally who. I was raised to like books by my dad who likes books so it was natural for me. The world is always changing so I feel that the older generations tried to escape it. I think eventually escapism fails and you're forced to face reality: my mom only recently got trapped into the cycle but I was raised in it and have had twenty years to come to hate it. I've had so many friends get pulled into it and I hate it all. Three other seniors graduated at my church when I graduated. The year after had seven seniors who were also my friends. Already half are agnostic-atheist "influencers" that post about politics regularly, or if they don't, they simply party and work worthless jobs to fund escapism. Those of us that didn't fall into that, though, hate it. I believe that this divide, those caught and those that resist, will define Gen Z. As a side note, any sort of scrolling mindlessly is the same, and I've seen the "somewhat intelligent" kids get sucked into Wikipedia, which is just another layer in the labyrinth. In many years, I will not be surprised to reflect onto my twenties and spot quickly the labyrinth I am blind to now. Honestly I'm just rambling bro but I've been thinking about this a decent amount so that's why I'm dumping text onto you.

>>18799156
We were raised in a time where access to information is easier than ever, where we are more cynical and immune to the world, and where Harry Potter is petering out.

>>18796411
>19
>Master and Margarita
>The Stranger

>23
>The Republic
>The Concept of Ant8r2vxiety

>>18799133
>kino
Yeah okay, thanks for the words bigbrain

>>18804008
I fear that you are right about the scrolling. In the past five years I've moved from Instagram to Youtube to Twitter before deleting all my social media accounts. But now Youtube and 4chan are the feeds that I scroll through. It may be that one has to walk away from all feeds if he is to break the psychological addiction to cheap entertainment.

>20
>The Count of Monte Cristo
>Les Miserables

18
My equally-favourite books are Confessions by St. Augustine, Lolita, & The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea
I finished Macbeth today so I don't know what to read. I have the Brothers Karamazov, Notes from the Underground and Allen Bullock's Hitler biography, although I don't know which I should read first.

>>18796411
21
Monday begins on Saturday by Strugatskiy brothers (its just a book of my childhood that I love deeply)
The man in the high castle

>>18796411
>18
>The Stranger
>Crime and Punishment

>>18796411
29
Ada
The True And Only Heaven

>>18796709
how do you like Dune?

>>18804008
I think you make a mistake in attaching largely arbitrary generational labels to it. What you describe is an experience universal to anyone who was "with it" at the advent of the smartphone and the "new" internet. The key difference being that those born in the 90s and onwards have been marinated in it since at least adolescence. People born in the 60s, 70s, and 80s are also observing this trend and reacting to the extreme abundance of escapism. One of the great mistakes of adolescence is believing one's "generation" is special or has particularly unique insight, as if it will always be separated from the world of the adults through the (fleeting) barrier provided by childhood.

>>18796411
>20
>1984 or The History of Central Banking
>Pic Related is what I’m reading right now

>>18805217
This movie was about a trad (except daughter might lesbian?) white family of autists fighting against a radical technocracy trying to destroy humanity, and they defeat them by using white stereotypes like family values.

>>18796411
>18
>Don Quixote or Crime and Punishment
>None. Haven't read in several years, due to how I feel like necking myself every single time. Not because I don't enjoy the experience, but I begin thinking and realising how unhappy and lonely I have been for years. Then, I start to get pissed.

>25
>Master & Margarita
>Crime & Punishment

28
No Longer Human
Black Rednecks and White Liberals

>>18796603
Yujiro is straight as fuck he only wants women he just sees you as a women.

>>18796471
Such a boomer. Can't even give a specific book because he's never actually read it.

i turn 30 in 7 days
blood meridian
blood meridian

32
Favourite game is Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Currently playing The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles
Favourite novel: None, nobody has ever written a good novel.
Currently reading: Nothing.

Favourite book? Probably The Anti-Christ by Nietzsche

>19
>The Book of Disquiet
>The Bible

>>18796411
19
Player Piano
Hard Times

>>18805837
Rereading? Happy birthday in advance

>>18805837
What are you planning to do with your wizard powers?

I have just recently escaped the shackles of my christian cult that seemingly explained my entire existence to me, so I am behind in literature as I did not think I needed it before due to this. Because of that I am 26 and have read very little - maybe 20 books, including the ones I have recently started.

So far I think my favourite book is Ancient Philosophy by Anthony Kenny, not because its amazing necessarily, but because it has changed so much about how I think and made me question everything critically, just like the ancient philosophers did. I'm currently reading God's Playground to learn the history of my birthplace.

>>18806016
A real cult or were you just brought up religiously and now hate your parents or sth because you like to take it up the butt?

>>18806040
Jehovah's Witnesses, so not exactly a death cult but I would still consider it a mild cult. I don't hate religion or Christianity or my parents at all, and I still think there is a lot of value in the bible. I just don't think it has all the answers.

>this many 18-20 year olds on this board
If you are under the age of 25 you are literally still a child and your opinions don't matter

>>18806103
Not a single opinion ever posted on this website has mattered

>>18806103
If your age is above 25 and you're still on 4chan then you don't matter and your opinion is irrelevant

>>18806158
Touche

18
Crime and punishment
Sorrows of young Werther

>>18796411
28
Lolita
Aristotle Metaphysics

>>18801128
Yeah. I tried and failed to read Infinite Meme at 19 but would tell everyone I read it.

>>18796411
>20
>100 Years of Solitude
>The Party Battles of the Jackson Period

>>18796411
30
Gravity's Rainbow
The Very Hungry Caterpillar

>>18805314
Pretty much that expect the whole main character is gay shit isnt a thing really. Your hints is the rainbow pin and her mom telling her and a future classmate she mets online if they are “official”. In the movie, the classmate, Jade is only on screen for about 1 minute out of a 2 hour movie and whole 5 seconds of interaction between them toward the very end. Besides that, if the main character did had feelings for the same sex, It mostly because the daddy and outcast issues she had and hasn’t met a guy that had/has feelings for her.

I’m betting out that this will teach her how unbelievely toxic lesbian relationships can once she dates her. It would ultimately leave her to find a guy or she mets some dude that will develop a crush on her

>>18796411
25
Favorite books: Story of The Eye/Accursed Share/Marriage of Heaven and Hell/The Monadology
Currently reading: Anarchy State, and Utopia/The Theatre and its Double

>20
>Wuthering Heights
> Mere Christianity

>>18799482
I love irony here. Great stuff, anon.

>>18796411
>Your age
23
>Fav book
No fucking clue
>The book you're currently reading
None

>21
>War and Peace
>re-reading War and Peace The Alexiad, I guess, if re-reading doesn't count

>>18796411
>>18797969
>TBK
Nice — if I were a chick I'd 100% be attracted to Alyosha

>>18796721
That's a ton, lel. Curious, do you write notes for them at all?

>>18798220
>Romance of the Three Kingdoms
You got a rec for the best translation?

>>18799088
>C&P
There's a pic from here charting the allegedly best way to read Dost's books. If you could find it, you might be interested in it after finishing C&P considering you just got into him.

>>18799129
Check the less popular threads from time to time, bru.

>>18801094
You into Chinese lit? If so, is Dream of the Red Chamber's best English translation really the Hawkins one? I read somewhere that a more recent German translation is the one scholars use nowadays, but I can't speak the language. I'm wondering if someone managed to make a more reliable eng version using the latter.

>>18801128
>not reading your first novel at an age younger than 18
You 'mirin?

>>18805706
>Don Quixote or Crime and Punishment
You could write up some sort of thesis or collection of notes processing what exactly you liked or took away from either/both of these. That activity helped me through some shit and whatever I've since gleaned from the books I'd read I keep with me to this day.

>>18805874
>game
Play Rule of Rose, it's both shit and fucking wonderful all at once.

>>18804008
>not having parents who both read
Fuckin gay
Nah, but >>18805192 is right.
>I believe that this divide, those caught and those that resist, will define Gen Z
This is an axiom you can observe in communities and generations that place emphasis on the individual in the midst of the communal. In this sense, we can't quite distinguish older gens as characterized by escapism and see ourselves existing in a different contextual vein when you yourself talk about the shades of escapism ingrained in Gen Z.
You make a cool point, though, about the way it manifests itself in our peers:
>In many years, I will not be surprised to reflect onto my twenties and spot quickly the labyrinth I am blind to now
With how easily the internet exposes us to ideologies and personalities so entirely opposite to our own, it's really fucking common for us to inhabit a social bulwark to stave off things we place ourselves against. Combine that with the current zeitgeist to either uphold or denigrate one's own individuality, I believe the unique challenge of our gen is something you touched on: balancing a ferocious push for oneself — whether positive or negative — with a ferocious push for one's own bulwark.

>>18796411
>27
>no longer human
>perfume
pic also unrelated

>>18796411
88
Paradise Lost
Paradise Regained

>>18796411
>>Your age
18
>>Fav book
The Unique and Its Property & Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
>>The book you're currently reading
A Thousand Splendid Suns, Das Kapital, The Struggle Against The State & Other Essays

>>18796411
>18
>the death of ivan ilitch
>o alienista

>>18796411

>32
>American Gods
>The Gone World

I've read a lot of classics, but I also mainly read for enjoyment than to broaden my viewpoints on philosophy

>>18799156
You fuckers birthed us in a shithole and all we had was the internet. Some of us dove into deep topics, grew up on youtube videos and found books, others ended up in /pol/

>20
>Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
>Invisible Cities / The House of the Dead

21
Crime and Punishment
Koren Shalem Siddur, Ashkenaz

>>18808811
>You fuckers birthed us
What fuckers? People 5 - 10 years older?

>26
>Bros K, Hero of Our Time
>Libido Dominandi

>>18799156
We got hyper funneled past all the academic bullshit that boomers had to go through (college, work, no internet, etc) and went straight to the meat and potatoes of literature

>>18796411
>21
>Der Process
>Пpиглaшeниe нa кaзнь

> 22
> The Republic
> "How to Die" by Seneca

>>18796411
>19
>Mason & Dixon or The Illiad
>The Iceman Cometh

>>18801128
Zoomer here, (for me at least) the main reason I'm looking into literature is because of videogames. It started with the Xeno- series with Nietzsche, Lacan, wikipedia articles on Gnosticism etc, but now I'm just reading more things to expand my knowledge so I can pick up on things in other games. It's usually nothing more than just a pointed finger saying "I know that!" but it's nice when it happens and at this point I enjoy the reading more than the games themselves. Honestly though, when I started around 15 or 16 I was definitely posturing, but I liked the impression that these books left on me even if I didn't understand them at all so I kept going.

>>18796411
20
the king in yellow
the three body problem

>26
>The Dharma Bums
>The World According to Garp

>>18796411
>27
>The Red and the Black
>The Red and the Black

>25
>Meditations by Marcus Aurelius
>Lolita

>>18796411
>25
>Watership Down or Wuthering Heights
>The Conquest of New Spain

>>18811562
How do you like Garp?
feels like nobody talks about it here but I found it a really good read.

>>18796411
23
Job
The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious

>>18799156
The first American millennials that were becoming adults were tossed into an unrelenting job market in the middle of the worst recession since the 1920s and already overpriced universities that were constantly panicking and changing their curriculums because obsolete jobs were rapidly being phased out while new jobs were popping up on the market. Causing a lot of people to aimlessly navigate through college where most ultimately dropped out or ended up with a useless degree or the worst case scenario where they became an engineer that never knew how to market themselves.

Thus a massive wave of depressed, young, poor people with nothing going for them latching onto their childhood favorites like Harry Potter, Eragon, Twilight and etc. and a massive growth in entertainment outlets in general, especially "free" ones like Youtube. When something like reading takes effort for someone who is working multiple slave wage jobs to make ends meet, you end up with a culture where the average person just wants to turn off their brain and play video games or watch movies.

And because massive amounts of reform didn't happen 13 years ago. We have an entire generation that is too tired to read and revolutionize efficiently. Zoomers aren't much better because they're already effectively divided by culture wars. Some found /pol/(or worse, /pol/ facebook groups) too early and got brainrot, while the young tumblr zoomers are still arguing about Heterosexual lesbians being a valid wholesome lgbt identity.

>>18796411
>22
>V
>Pale Fire

>20
>Cannibal Magical: Niounomiya Siblings, Masters of Carnage
>Myth of Sisyphus and Other Essays

>23
>war and peace
>van gogh: a life

>>18796411
25
Tales of the Count Lucanor
Lessons for life by Epictetus

28
Thus spoke Zarathustra
Klara and the Sun