/lit/ - Literature

Absolute Chad

>>18774109
/thread

Where an alpha masters the dominance hierarchy and the sigma stands outside it, Bataille transcends this binary both being at the top AND transcending the hierarchy. He is the inventor of based materialism ffs.

>>18774103
he's alright

Degenerate.

>>18774131
Base*

I heard Stalin liked his book.

>>18774131
his degeneracy was why he was so based

Accursed share is an interesting concept and his coomer stories are also great writing. Probably one of the few times when writing both philosophy and stories didn't turn to complete shit for at least one side (looking at you Mr. Land)
That said though, his stories always had pretty weak endings imo. Both story of the eye and Mother just kinda fizzled out.

>>18774185
I don't think the eye fizzled out over more than around one page: the last page of his books are just his weakest point.

>>18774185
My Mother was unfinished

Just started reading the Accursed Share. Really solid shit, I finally unlocked the meaning of the Solar Anus meme, pretty nihilistic imo but maybe there's some positive side to Bataille out of the transgression against the order of objects he lays out, since mass sacrifice doesn't seem to be the best way of breaking the grip of Capital.

>>18774103
who?

>>18774103
Based coomer frog
I read Accursed Share and loved it.

>>18776874
Mr. Demiurge himself.

>>18774185
>looking at you Mr. Land
I'm trying to improve

bumptille

I wanted to have /luso/ threads more often, but it appears like the other 10 anons interested in this are done for now, but let me reignite the thread with a new topic
fav and least fav pessoa heteronym? me, personally, I gotta go with alberto caeiro for my favourite one, and ricardo reis for my least favourite. caeiro's soft master that's deeply rooted in nature without exhausting it makes his poetry very subtle and delicate, yet with a firm grip on the reader. meanwhile, reis always presents itself as a wimp, hiding behind muh stoicism to appear cool in front of everyone. cool character, but I find his writings to be the least appealing

juvenile schizo shit for children just like everyone itt and all the terrible postmodern pedos. if you like Bataille you're either a faggot or a pedo (as if there's a difference)

>>18778619
Have you read anything but the memes? Accursed share is fucking great, what you're saying is brainlet bullcrap

Incredibly based beyond belief. Makes brainlets seethe by mere mention of his name. Nietzsche reborn.

>>18778640
Big dick back in town

>>18778634
I've read 4 of his books, unlike this Twitter troon larper >>18778640. keep telling yourself there's something more profound in volume 3 of his retard trilogy than a typical deviant art page

>>18778672
post broken book spines or gtfo

>>18774138
>Stalin liked his book.
kek

>>18778640
>contra-guenonisme.jpg
Care to explain the file name for a brainlet like me? Whats so anti Guenon about Bataille?

>>18778672
Care to explain how you get from Bataille to being a twitter transexual? You people through that term around as if your own beliefs couldn't be just as easily linked to what's in vogue right now. Given what you're getting mad about, I have to assume you're some kind of tradsneed, in which case I am sure I don't need to even bother with looking for tiktoks of Christian pastors in rainbow vestaments, you've seen them given that this is all you think about

>>18778692
It's mainly about guaranteed replies. But also that guenonists all kneejerk at philosophy written after the 1300s

>>18778710
I remember when i mentioned this quote existed and all the trads shook with fear even when i didn't bother finding the quote.

What would Bataille think of the pandemic and vaccines??? Genuinely curious.

>>18778776
First of all.
What a fucking boring world we live in where the only avenue for expenditure is people bored being at home isolated.
Secondly it talks to our general logic of capitalism that fx. in denmark where i live all the fun things like clubs and concerts are still closed. It's also fun how football is allowed how nobody can stop that mass engagement in expenditure. Scary how the excess has been transformed into idealisms in the form of paranoid conspiracy theories. How the act of shitting and cleaning your ass was so emphasized in the beginning when this collective anal contraction happened (in the freudian sense)

Idk, I'm half asleep.

>>18778685
some were from the library and the others I got rid of. sorry, I only buy and keep books by good authors.
>>18778699
>he doesn't know

>>18778836
lol based

>>18778836
you sound like a literal teenager

>>18778898
Thank you, I try to stay young souled.

But I need to sleep desu it's 5 and i have yet to sleep I'm a zombie - which explains why i write like this... rawr XD i feel so young again lol^^ xd - this is how a teenager writes, right?

>>18778776
>>18778836
A stretch but maybe you could argue that the burghers, i.e. the ignoble hoarders of surplus with no traditional sense of public expenditure or oblige, have finally found something to potlach after all: YOU. You are the one who gets to get the cough and participate in the massive trial run of new medicinal technologies, have to return to physical work or work in a shared (i.e. burgher-owned) physical space proximate to other coughers, or have been doing so all along, and this is all framed as your civic duty to the society, while they get to be remote forever and only appear to have losses. The wealthiest actually profited from all this so long as they did not sell when markets crashed. The sacrificed share was the surplus labor, businesses that were less valuable, and so forth.

>>18778920
A teenager from 2007. Unless your country is just logging on to MySpace

>>18778948
kek that's the joke feminazi soiboi (((cuck))) - this is how a teenager writes, right?

>>18778974
Ok now that's 2016. Are you new at the CIA? I feel like this could make for a cute short story prompt owo

>>18778989
cope and seethe - this is how a teenager is based, right?

>>18779004
Yes.jpeg

>>18778640
Based actually reads poster

>>18779012
cia.bot has now been updated with the newest hip lingo ...goodnight

>>18778640
Amazing stack

>>18779024
>implying

what are the main arguments of the accursed share? I am planning to read it based on a reccomendation but the stuff I see online seems a little vague.

>>18779363
The only one I know (because it is easily the weirdest) is that there is a portion of the productive energies of a society that literally cant be invested or consumed in the usual way, and has to be expended through some kind of extravagant waste, either through art or war or something. Thats the accursed share.

>>18779383
It's the pyramids and Hiroshima. There's something to meditate on.

>>18779024
look closer...

>>18779363
Read the essay notion of expenditure and you will have an idea.

>>18779363
The Accursed Share is basically the excess of energy that is not used for the growth or reproduction of a system. Think of a billionaire who has so much money he doesn't know what to do with it, it can longer be used for utility purposes. So, he spends it on extravagant items that display his power or rank, he throws banquets and gives philantrophic gifts. All of this he does without any expectation of return, it is a waste. Bataille's idea of the Solar Anus is essentially the genetic element of the Accursed Share, all life on Earth is in a sense a waste product of the Sun which functions as a pure singularity of ejection or ek-stasis of energy. This results in an over-abundance of energy circulating the planet, leading to more and more complex lifeforms, each more wasteful and excessive than the last (with the human brain perhaps taking the crown position here). In fact, death itself is merely a byproduct of this process of individuation (along with sexual reproduction). When it comes to human society, some societies are quite aware of the place of excess, others not so much. Bataille gives us the examples of Industrial Capitalist society which centers around Production rather than Consumption, leading to a system of objectivities and pure utilitarianism. He gives the examples of the Aztecs and Natives as societies of consumption, the role of the Potlatch (wasting valuable resources for nothing in return, such as killing slaves in front of a rival or burning one's own village, wasting food on exuberant feasts, etc..) and human sacrifice both serve as means to a sort of self-consciousness of the Accursed Share. This self-consciousness allows the Subject to enter into a purer Subjectivity because he negate the utility of the object by essentially treating it as the excess that it is.

>>18778640
>translations
ngmi

>>18778776
He'd be on the side of the virus. The sacred, too, is viral contagion.

>The need to go astray, to be destroyed, is an extremely private, distant, passionate, turbulent truth.

>>18780637
Yeah it makes sense. The sacred/violence is indeed contagious and this is what is happening today, mimetic desire, etc

>>18780589
This sounds really intriguing actually

I look forward to reading it

>>18780629
It's true, I don't know frog

>>18780589
>ekonomiks
Fucking retards

>>18780649
Based

>>18779383
not that weird desu, it's the same as sublimation in psychoanalysis

>>18778640
This man is sexhaver

>>18780629
I wish this was me.

>>18774103
Isn't this the guy who killed himself? Why should I give a fuck about a philosophy that goes against the most basic and natural instinct there is?

>>18783862
No he didn't

>>18783938
Then I confused him with someone. There was a pessimist philosopher who killed himself, who was it again?

>>18783949
me

>>18783949
Mainländer, Michelstaedter, Caraco?

>>18784632
Yeah, it was Mainländer

>>18779467
Some books from certain publishers have sturdier spines that don't show creases as easy as long as you're not rough with them. Zone books (from Princeton) is one of them.

>>18780629
I bow down to this anon.

>>18774103
Chicken hearts.

>>18780629
French has a considerably lower information density as compared to english making it an inferior language. Just look how thick those books are. Stupid fucking frog