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This was the most boring schlock I've ever had the misfortune of reading. Even Dracula was more entertaining and better written. THis literally almost put me to sleep. I get it, it's Pulp Sci-Fi but there's no reason it should be this bad. Everything can be boiled down to
>I/we knew that you knew that I/we knew that you knew that I/we knew and that means that I/we knew what you ultimately knew so offscreenconclusionthatgetsmentionedinthelastsentence
Every two pages you get
>Psychohistory is, like, a REAL SCIENZE but, like, it's too complicated and NOOOOOOOO IT'S NOT FUCKING MAGIC IT'S SCIENCESCIENCESCIENCEREEEEEEEEEE
which handwaves any problem. It was like reading that Sherlock copypast mixed with an unionic reddit fanfic fom circa 2013. It's every bad anime trope put into a single book.
>REEEEEEE it's the style it's supposed to be an Encyclopedia!11!!!
It's a shitty style that makes little sense when you get to the actual writing and not the introductory sentences. I could excuse all that if it had at least some good worldbuilding, but nothing. Nothing made me want to imagine anything. It was a completely sterile book with drab imagery, silly names and no sense of wonder.
>oh yah, there's this machine and this spaceship and space is huge and uh... here have some peasants
It's ugly. And what is it with his obsession with Psychology? Why is he going on tirades about how it's the ultimate uberscience?

Why do people call this a building block of Sci-Fi /lit/? I'm going into Dune and stuff like Heinlein and PKD next, so I really hope they're different. This was just trash. You could skip whole sections and miss nothing. And again, it was completely unimaginative, which I consider the greatest sin in a fantasy/syfy book. This was billed as
>the fall of Rome... IN SPACE
That didn't feel like Space Rome. More like Fallout... IN SPACE. There's no unique aesthetic. No identity. If this was set in some huge desert between two warring outposts nothing would change. It's this drab.

I can't even imagine why anyone would read the rest of the Foundation books, let alone the whole "expanded universe" with his robotshit. Why people treat this hack as some god is beyond me.

>> No.18763324
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18763324

>>18763317
I liked it.

>> No.18763336

>>18763324
first based post i have ever seen you make

>> No.18763366

>>18763317
He was literally ESL, and it shows. Second book is a bit less terrible, but very basic. And bad news anon, Dune is not well written.

>> No.18763373

>>18763317
his stories and, if you like time travel, "The gods themselves" are better. But some stories have a YA feel.

>> No.18763375

>>18763324
Bjork fucked a nigger.

>> No.18763376

>>18763317
Dune is a definite step up.
Heinlein is a definite step down. Absolute garbage.
PKD is based.

>> No.18763383

>>18763373
End of Eternity is Asimov's best

>> No.18763386

>>18763383
Is that the one about the super computer calculating the big bang?

>> No.18763561

>>18763317
I was unironically rooting for the Mule. He was the only thing that brought life to that lifeless universe.

>> No.18763582

>>18763317
"A Dream of Eagles" copied his idea and made it much better.

>> No.18763585

>>18763561
same

>> No.18763586

>>18763317
Read the prequels, they are much better than the original series, especially when it comes to characters and the like. It doesn't have the "sterile" feel of the original trilogy.

>> No.18763609

>>18763317
Clarke>Bradbury>Asimov>Heinlein

>> No.18763719

>>18763317
>>18763561
Should also note that Foundation's Edge ruins what good there was in the rest of the series. Getting an inside look at the Second Foundation was a good idea but the rest is bad. Gaia is a dumb power creep on the SF and it ruins the Mule's mysterious backstory too, and those two things were the only interesting things about the series to begin with.

>> No.18763726

>>18763317
wow does it hurt getting filtered this hard?

>> No.18763745
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>>18763317
>implying Dracula wasn't entertaining
Stopped reading right there. I have no idea what you're even talking about but I know you got filtered.

>> No.18763784

>>18763383
+1 to this. EoT was amazing, meanwhile I only read halfway through the foundation series.

>> No.18763807

>>18763373
Gods themselves was the one with the proton pumps causing the supernova that all the soys use as a comparison to climate change and science denial.

>> No.18763983

>>18763317
Blame the fact that it was serialized for a monthly magazine. I put it down after four chapters

>> No.18763995

>>18763324
Fpbp

>> No.18764038

>>18763745
The castle is good. The boat is kino. The seduction and transformation of Lucy are good. The attack on Mina is good. Everything in between and the ending is repetitive and dull.

>> No.18764056

>>18763386
No, you're thinking about "The Last Question".

>> No.18764661

>>18763317
I tried reading the Foundation series once but couldnt make it more than a couple of pages into the first book, the dumb and utterly made-up sounding names of the characters alone made it insufferable.

>> No.18764820

>>18763317
I'm not very into sci-fi but I hated Foundation. Loved Dune, loved PKD. You'll be fine.
If you like the idea of sentient bugs read Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky.

>> No.18765077

>>18763317
>600 pages full of filler and repetition
>still ends on a goddamn cliffhanger
I want my time back. I’ve wasted it on some pretty subpar things, but this is one of the rare instances where I truly regret it.

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>>18763317
I have no idea what a person could gain from whining to anons about something, not just lit, in this way. It's meme review nitpick stinky autism that I just don't understand. I guess it would at least make some kind of sense if you were doing it for uovotes but, on a site like this, there is no insintive that I can come up with other than you wanting to circle jerk. I guess what I'm saying is you are a faggot.

>> No.18765214

The Foundation is a gift from the Living God. Too bad you cannot realise it...

>> No.18766695

>>18765207
What do you gain from making any post on a Tasmanian Kayaking Imageboard you colossal faggot?

>> No.18767396

>>18766695
Dopamine rush from seeing my opinion on certain subjects get validated. This website is the same as any other social media the only difference is that this website reeks of virginity.

>> No.18767495

>>18767396
Ok based

>> No.18767822

>>18767396
Then why do you have the problem with the OP?
>>18767495
Samefagging won’t help (you).

>> No.18768022

>>18763317
>foundation is trash
The first one is meh. Second one is the best of the originals. Third one annoyed me. You gotta keep in mind it's a bunch of short stories/novellas patched together to make full length books
Foundation and Earth is the best book in the series and it's one of the ones he added later. For that one, I pictured actors/actresses as the characters and it made it awesome. It's also an actual full novel so environment descriptions and characters are better
I preferred the robot books personally. Caves of steel was awesome
>I'm going into Dune and stuff like Heinlein and PKD
Dune is Uber gay, so you'll probably like it. It is the definition of YA fiction
Heinlein is pretty good (though some of his stuff can be weird too). Starship troopers is not his best book despite what many say though it certainly is a classic.
PKD is a mixed bag. Sometimes when he was high it worked, sometimes it didn't. Second Variety is his best story

>> No.18768031

>>18763719
Gaia irritated me. It's literally just boomers hippie dream that never happened