/lit/ - Literature

>>18746183
>it hurts when I do this
Stop doing that.

>>18746183
Love yourself.
I have friends and I am still lonely. Only time I didn't feel lonely I was married.

>>18746183
Read less, simple as.

>>18746183
I'm lonely and I barely read. Just learn to be fine with aloneness, if you must.

>>18746183
Well, what’s more important to you?
Do you want to lead a healthy social life at the expense of your academics? Then set some of the books down and go outside.
Do value the enrichment and challenge from learning? Then ignore your FOMO and get reading. Socialization just tangles you in drama anyways.

>>18746183
Do something else, anon. I enjoy reading the most when I treat it as my alone time; if I’m constantly reading, I’m not enjoying a little alone time, I’m lonely.

>>18746216
>barely read
>posting on /lit/
Makes sense

>>18746183
I'd recommend making social experience your priority right now, because you'll definitely have regrets as you get older and have no dionysian memories. Everyone should at least get a taste of adventure, companionship, parties, drugs, sex etc.

That being said, be certain that you'll return to books because what you find out eventually is that it's very rare to find a friend worth having in the long-term, and that all women are whores.

>>18746183
>How does one defeat the loneliness inherent in reading as a pass time?
embrace it, read schop

>>18746276
Are you sure I won't have "dionysian memories" in my old age? I will still enjoy nature, eat good food, explore and have friends. And there are always finer, subtler pleasure; some even ecstatic, or spiritual.

There is always time, but you should chase those pleasures accessible only to youths while you have your youth, anon. Even if you fail, there's always a way to transform wrong into right.

>>18746203
no, no. At this point, the only way out is through.

>>18746183
Have sex while reading

You ought to do social activities too. Read less if you have to.

People giving advice that you need to go out and have social experiences somehow completely miss the fact that to do such a thing has to be a two-sided agreement.

I'd love to do that sort of thing, but, no woman is REMOTELY interested in me, so I'm perfectly happy enjoying myself reading. I won't have regrets in my old age about not having sex, I'll just regret that I wasn't attractive enough to women. It was out of my hands.

>>18746298
Chasing plasure is weak and lame. Its superficial and unessential. Asceticism is ascenscion. Once youre driven no punishment or reward alters the reason of your goals. Once you go below the baseline of stimuli long enough to emancipate yourself you can alter punishments and rewards so finely that the most subtle suggestion is itself enough to call yourself to action reliably. I have done all the work and workouts and then feel tired but satisfied. Blessed are the sleepy ones says Zarathustra. Also do keto and nofap forever because Julius Evola is sunning his balls in Valhalla.

>>18746276
Im sure OP is dying to dance robotically at a Normie congregation of raving sportsball watching reality TV celebrity wannabes.
Sarcasm aside I think OP needs a buddy to go hunting or fishing with or park walks.

>>18746183
>as a pass time
I always thought it was
>pastime
Still these words haunt me. Time is not just a commodity to spend it is your life. Measurements that matter are milestones from birth to death. You lack purpose OP from your casual pass time. I have real stakes and a plan B and plan C and exhausted recovery oh god Im too exhausted for Plan D way of doing things I never feel lonely until I collapse in exhaustion after having bit off more than I can chew.

>>18746183
This is a bad thread and you shouldn't have made it, but I'll help you out. if you want to get better at social stuff, a couple of good books are:

>Schopenhauer's Porcupines: Intimacy and its Dilemmas
and
>Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Social Anxiety Disorder, by Stefan G. Hofmann and Michael W. Otto

The second one is written for therapists so you'd have to figure out how to apply the principles therein to your own life.

>>18746183
Get a cat or dog.

>>18747645
CBT though practical is no norman reconquista (of conquering normies) which is what a Frog poster desires truly. Schopey's hedgehog essay is reconquista material though.
For me it's Ted Kaczynski and Montana mountains

>>18747673
>Schopey's hedgehog essay

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I meant pic related. It's a series of psychology case studies in which the therapist's clients are all struggling with some form of the hedgehog's dilemma. The CBT book is for if OP wants to learn how to talk to people without fearing for his spaghetti. Of course if he wants to continue just being a dumb frognigger and making bad threads that's cool too, but he should take that shit to r9k.

>>18747705
fuck wrong picture

>>18747712
You know, I'm something of a hedgehog myself

>>18747608
>unessential

Just stop reading so much and start socialising. If you feel deeply uncomfortable when talking to people talk to a psychotherapist/psychiatrist.
>How to start socialising?
Go to a book club or something. I have a handful of friends, I consider them good friends, we talk small and big, help out one another if one is in need, get together to play at cards, etc. The single most important factor in deciding if a person should be your friend is if they're manipulative; thankfully I've met few such people.
I know it might sound oversimplified, but asking someone "how's it going", or "what are you up to", or something similar, is how you start a potential friendship. You've got nothing to lose. If they subtly reject you by saying something like "oh look at the time" you just move on. If you're nervous about making a fool of yourself, remind yourself that you're really not that important. Going to a psychotherapist/psychiatrist will help with this anxious feeling (it helped me).
Of course, you can feel lonely even if you aren't alone, but I don't know what to say about that.
By the way, if any of you think you can't get a romantic relationship because you aren't attractive or wealthy, I have to remind you that I've seen people who have down syndrome, or borderline retardation, or are paraplegic, or an average fellow who has a janitor job, but they still have a partner. Practically anyone can get in a romantic relationship. The "worst" example I've seen is a deaf woman with this guy in a wheelchair. If you're not a manipulative asshole you can get friends and a partner.

>>18746302
You read Terence McKenna?

Also
>>>/adv/

>>18746183
By getting married.

>>18746183
Where do you live anon we could be friends

>>18746183
>>18748890
To expand on this, what you'll find is that a genuinely fulfilling marital relationship takes up so much of your emotional energy that you will have little interest in interacting with others. Part of that will also be your wife's support for and encouragement of your pursuits. Getting married to the right woman would solve your loneliness problem.

>>18748980
>wife's support for and encouragement of your pursuits
Yeah good luck with that, because even assuming that OP manages to find a girl willing to commit to him, in majority of marriages the wife gradually turns her man into castrated bugman with no pursuits other than providing.

>>18749006
What if the man was originally a castrated bugman with no pursuits other than making money?

>>18749012
That's a ready-made husband material after she's done riding the cock carousel at 31. Many such cases!

>>18749021
What I meant is that most Anglos are like this already.

>>18749031
Most westerners, it's becoming the norm even here in Eastern Europe.

>>18746183
Start smoking

>gone years without a single friend
>gone years without talking to anyone either online or offline
>not lonely
how does it feel to be a retarded monkeybrain OP?

How can I be lonely while reading a book? All my best friends are in there.

>>18749109
Because they're all much more interesting than you and they never listen to what you say.

>>18746183
>Start talking to yourself.
>Shitpost on 4chan
>Play vidya
Also you're never going to make it if reading is a "lonely" pass time. IT sounds like you havent beaten any extroverted ideals you might have out of your system yet.

>>18746183
>How does one defeat the loneliness
You just have to endure it without acting out of it. After a long time of this, that demon stops coming around, because he knows he's not gonna get any food there. Then you can enjoy your comfy solitude forever

>go hangout with friends at get together
>catch up which is cool
>getting anxious and annoyed about an hour or so in as the conversations progressively get more retarded I get more restless
It's for the best honestly. Once I got home in my space I felt better.

How is being lonely a real thing?
Are you in danger, are you threatened, or stuck in a situation you desperately need somebody else to save you?
No!
So how can you feel lonely? You are just an idiot who told himself he needs to have x number of y type of people around him to be “happy”.

fuck off.

>>18751364
Maybe you don't know what real loneliness is like, that is, having zero friends. No one.

>>18746183
Reading is not inherently lonely. I have a hot /lit/ girlfriend and every morning we sit out in the front garden together and drink coffee and read. Occasionally we'll hold each other's hand or lean over and laugh at a racist or homophobic line in whatever either of us are reading.