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when i read it i definitely thought the 3rd part was without a doubt a weak link, , but yea its a really wonderful and memorable book, i thought

upon further reflection as far as the 3rd part goes, I find its better if you focus less about the specifics of everything and just let it wash over you just how absolutely horrifying and painful the whole situation is in general and how heart breaking and painful it would be to be in that position and be making those kinds of choices. like for example whether or not you agree with whats his name, the entire concept of the voluntary death camps its absolutely fucked and a testament to how absolutely fucked the whole situation is.

i think the bit about the cat perfectly sums it up; as someone who has been there and done that, the line between the right and wrong move can become very blurry when dealing with making those sorts of choices, and even if you try to make the "right" choice it can still absolutely tear you apart inside, and there is no "winning"

>>18739060
I put down my cat last year, that part really got me. But I still think Miller should have focused more on the cyclical nature of history and man being doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past, rather than the anguishing choice of euthanasia.
I was kinda doubtful having read it, it's a great novel, but should it be considered one of the great novels? It's sci-fi, it's really catholic focused, but the theme of cyclical history really sold it.

>>18739107
personally i really do feel like its an example of sci fi that surpasses genre fiction

and yea i put down my cat back in march after 15 years with him and that really got to me, and i have an even more relevant experience to that little story, where about 10 or so years ago when i was a teenager me and my friends were in the woods and came across a bird that was clearly severely injured and not going to be able to survive, so we decided it would be good to put it out of its misery, a few of us tried but the end result was that we didnt even manage to kill it and basically made the whole situation more horrifying, and we ended up being pretty shook by the whole situation and just walked away, and i have to say that is probably one of the worst things ive ever experienced so reading that was just gut wrenching for me

but yea, it definitely felt like it was deviating hard from the overall themes of the book thus far and essentially felt a little out of place, so id still say it was the weaker part of the book

>>18739005
You didn’t have to make a thread about it.

>>18739746
You didn't have to bump it.

>>18739746
It's a good novel, if someone else decides to read it cause of the thread, then good.

It's pulp

>>18740293
Quality pulp.

>>18740299
still pulp

>>18740306
If something's good, it's good.

>>18739005
Np. Glad you enjoyed it. The other cover is better.

>>18740313
for pulp

>>18740322
Have you read it? What did you think of it, apart from
>it's pulp

>>18740329
Yes, it's pulp, what else is there to say?

>>18740333
okay anon
that'll do

>>18739005
>>18740293
>>18740313
>Post-Apocalyptic
>Pulp
>Papist
Guess I know what I'm reading after The Book of the New Sun. Thanks for the rec anons!

I like the part where he talks about the sexually ambiguous statue of Jesus. I see a lot of that in Renaissance paintings/certain depictions of Jesus

Where kitty?

I feel like there's a lot of truth to the idea that the Catholic Church would be one of the handful of institutions to survive a nuclear war. It survived the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, which is one of the largest endpoints of civilization that the world has ever experienced. It pulled through the Dark Ages and came out strong. It's arguably the reason Europe emerged from the Dark Ages at all. The Church feels like an institution that would still be around, even if civilization as a whole collapsed.

I just started reading this two days ago and I, too, am absolutely in love with it. I rarely read any sci-fi—BotNS is the only thing I have read in that general category since I was a teenager—but this is so fucking good bros. So good.
Are there any other sci-fi in the same vein that have this level of quality?

>>18742010
Penny dreadfuls

>>18741410
It probably would survive, but with all the damage Francis is doing, arguably, it's no longer catholic.

>>18741410
The institution may survive but not what it stands for, like >>18743321 said

>>18743321
lmao clueless

>>18742010
I've heard Station Eleven is good