/lit/ - Literature

>On the one hand, it is not possible to get rid of the metaphysical tradition by a simple gesture of taking distance, of placing oneself outside it, because the language we are obliged to use is penetrated by metaphysics. On the other hand, however, every text, however metaphysical, always produces gaps which announce breaches in the metaphysical circle: the points at which the textual process subverts what its 'author' intended to say. Is such a position not just a little too convenient? To put it more bluntly, the position from which the deconstructivist can always make sure of the fact that 'there is no metalanguage', that no utterance can say precisely what it intended to say, that the process of
enunciation always subverts the utterance, is the position of metalanguage in its purest, most radical form.

>>18729590
I mean, that's kind of the core axiom of post-modernism, isn't it? So yes, I guess.

>>18729631
Is that Zizek?

>>18729670
>that's kind of the core axiom of post-modernism
Not really. I goes way back to ancient Rome and Greece where they send translators to interpret roman/greek law. The process of interpreting and translating law into another language ultimately led to a transformation of the law in one way or the other.

>>18729671
Yeah

>>18729759
thanks

>>18729590
I dunno man, I feel like progressivism and historicism are the unassailable grand narratives of our time.

>>18730111
thanks for the comment, it will be further discussed.

>>18729590
Read Baudrillard

>>18730165
Ive read Beaudrillard, which book do you mean exactly?

>>18729590
have u been living under a rock all this time nigga?Massive advances in genetic engineering,ai,mathematics,theoretical physics,etc. are happening right infront of ur eyes .To top things off the esoteric things like jungian psychology are making a comeback.Humanity is literallystarving to know the truth about existence itself and this urge will always be the grand narrative till our descendants die.

>>18730284
Your are just commenting inside the contextual framework

You want a grand narrative? Read the Bible.

>>18730481
Too many people already commented on it

>>18730313
wdym?

>>18729590
Read Kant

>>18730284
>Humanity is literallystarving to know the truth about existence itself and this urge will always be the grand narrative till our descendants die.
>>18730561
There is no truth "itself" anymore, existence itself too is viewed under historical comments that subvert truth for the sake of finding it, technology just channels this process: social networks, space programms. Everything about the great narratives and journeys has already been outlined. Now we just comment about the great narrative comments about progress and truth, thus never leaving the discourse. The greatest question modernity repressed is whether we can find truth via enlighment or if truth unveils itself in some kind of revelation. Pick up on this!

>>18730596
>Read Kant
Done

>>18730630
>The greatest question modernity repressed is whether we can find truth via enlighment or if truth unveils itself in some kind of revelation.
modernity didn't repress it.Sure we may have been a little too distracted but that urge is just way too strong to get rid off.It's just as strong if not stronger than life itself.
>There is no truth "itself" anymore, existence itself too is viewed under historical comments that subvert truth for the sake of finding it
coming to think of it i simply should not have used the word the word truth and should've used something like"getting to know to more of existence itself" if u were to assume "truth"(clarify about my assumption of ur notion of "truth" will ya) about something as something that does not change even after interacting with that thing(but that is not the case in many cases as seen in the collapse of the wave function).

>>18730235
Your concerns are addressed in, for example, Simulacra and Simulation. I'd also recommend you delve backwards from him towards Hegelian dialectic, Marxism and historical materialism. Will help you understand Baudrillard better as well as flesh out some of the thoughts you're having.

t. different anon

>>18729590
You live outside the narrative. The narrative is social justice self dick sucking olympics

>>18730630
I think humanity is undergoing a metaphysical sickness. Too much too fast
Its post truth and definitely post God. Thats why theres an emerging and increasing "anarchist" undercurrent in all politics

>>18729590

Read Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age -> https://www.docdroid.net/SlxAMji/nihilism-seraphim-rose-pdf

It diagnoses the origins, and the unfolding of the Nihilist dialectic, and the consequences of lack of grand narrative, as a result of disbelief in ultimate truth.

Spoiler: The Grand Narrative is Orthodox Christianity.