/lit/ - Literature

>feels nothing but hate for mankind
>supports a group that wants wage war against the rest of the world and exterminate undesirables
What's to reconcile?

I'd like it less if he weren't a nazi

>>18720893
the book is an angry book. the man was an angry man. celine does not deal in carefully studied philosophy or morally profound dealings, there is nothing in his works to refute.
He is the poetic, seething, and beautiful embodiment of all frustrations and failures of modernity. his nazism was another way to out that frustration, as nazism was for all of europe.
its why he can be as unapologetic about his nazi sympathies after the war as he is, he never had illusions of grandeur for some kitsch new reich as the 'real' nazis did.
he did not pretend to be noble, or a saviour of the aryan race, he just used them as a vehicle for his frustration.

>>18720893
I like the Nazis

>>18720893
Be fair and read "NORD". Celine was a kind of hero in real life and you can't blame him for tell the true about "democracy". France is now a living prove of Celine's view.

I didn't like the book and don't let political views warp how I view the objective talent of an artist

>>18720926
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>>18722400
Cringe midwit.

interesting. any other notable books by this lad I should be looking into?

>>18720893
Books are words in a piece of paper, anon. You do whatever the fuck you want with it. And the author is fucking dead. So it is not like you are financing some crazy organization of some bs.

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>>18722988
im not nearly motivated enough to find a basedjack to reply to you with

>>18720893
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>>18721050
are you guys retarded? celine wasn't a nazi at all, he never joined the party and was *only* anti-semitic

>>18722821
Didn’t like it as much as Journey but still has a lot of great moments

>>18720893
He was himself. Right or wrong, he expressed it anyways...

Bear in mind his contempory conditions. He expressed it, the negativity, which still makes him way more positive than all the millions who did not and just unconsiouslly went with it.

National socialism isn't mentioned in this book, in fact you can vividly see how he was tricked into war and how absurd he sees it, from the cocked up sargeant to the french family that root for germans.

>>18720893
You can be smart and talented and morally reprehensible. People who read a good book and then assume it's a good idea to model their life off that author or dumb and if you only read books by people who you agree with then you will be stunted.

>>18720926
I don't actually find Voyage that misanthropic. Bardamu has several tender moments throughout the story and ultimately recognizes the worth in humanity.

>>18720893
Read his pamphlets. There's nothing to reconcile. They are the same Celine and only coping frogs and americans believe otherwise. His support of Nazism goes with his right-wing socialism. He never romanticized the poor, but sympathized with them and blamed their problems what the Nazis blamed their problems on.

Essentially, he thought Jews provoked WW1 for the detriment of non-Jews and going to war against the Germans in WW2 was more of the same.

There's some very subtle anti-semitism in his first two novels.

>>18722381
Do you recommend the rest of the trilogy?

>>18720962
best post itt

>>18722988
Nice drawing.

>>18724507
not really, celine was 'apologetic' in the sense that he tried to explain why he supported the nazis, and that reason was pacifism, and he never pretended to be a saviour because he thought the was a lost cause

>>18720893
By separating the artist from the art you fucking clown op

only low iq morons think like you.

>>18720893
>How do you reconcile the quality of this book with Celine being a Nazi?
i don't care. i wasn't aware of that fact when i read the book and now i that i do, it doesn't change my appreciation for the novel

it's 2021, if nobody is calling you a Nazi you're almost certainly a waste of oxygen

What’s wrong with being a Nazi?