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All *punk is cringe

What makes something "-Punk" rather than just scifi or fantasy?

>>18710879


YOU MEAN: «WORSE», NOT: «BETTER».

>>18710938
࿇ C V M G E N I V S ࿇ is not wrong for once.

>>18710908
The world is centered around a specific form of technology that significantly impacts the culture, society, and fashion

>>18710957
That's not even correct, that's just science fiction. Punk literature has to have Punk qualities. Bare minimum is social commentary that subverts the status quo. Sometimes this is anti-authoritarian, against corporate greed, or something of that nature. Most "punk" literature misses out on this though and emphasizes shallow aesthetics instead which is why the genres turn into such dog shit. Most of the authors that are writing these "punk" novels didn't define themselves as such, it happened organically. Posers and copycats labelled them as such and then tried to make shitty knockoffs that are often comically bad.

>>18710879
From all the x-punk stuff, steampunk is the worst. Even if you don't like cyberpunk, it would be a lie to say that steampunk is better. (I also don't like cyberpunk at all ---beyond Neuromancer, I think cyberpunk is just ill construed futurism)

>>18710908
Cyberpunk is baudrillardian matrix-eating-reality sf, basically.

>>18711001
steampunk is a wasted opportunity. it could've been a majestic extraretrofuturistic world, a scientific utopia as seen by a victorian

>>18711028
>utopia
Mate you don’t understand the 70s. The 1870s. Read some Emile Zola. Start with Germinal.

>>18710879
reddit island
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yLBb1NSSvk

>>18710882
This is what hell looks like.

>>18710882
The west in 20 years colored

>>18710879
Steampunk is just the 19th century with extra fantasy tech. It says absolutely nothing about anything, as if the 19th century wasn't already an era of horrendous child labour, rapid industrialisation, the acceleration of war into a pure meat grinder and the shattering of old social structures. Cyberpunk, when it's not trying to be cool and zany, is at least speculative fiction that seeks to reflect contemporary trends in one way or another.

>>18710908
retrofuturism

>>18711043
top kek people are so retarded

burgerpunk

>>18710882
Just nuke us already holy shit

>>18710879
Steampunk is an escapist retro-futurism based on the age of industrialization, while cyberpunk is flanderized take on our current reality.

>>18710879
Neither

>>18711108
>>18711207
>>18711598
Why is it so bad? It look sort of idyllic, with people all living in a lush rural setting. And there's a sense of community obviously, and some advanced tech.

>>18712709
>people

>>18710985
Because the name steampunk originated as a humorous derivation from cyberpunk. It was never intended to be a serious name for a sci-fi subgenre

>>18710882
holy shit
>>18712709
are you american? you wouldn't get it....

>>18712955
>american
yes :)
>you wouldn't get it....
why

>>18710879
certainly cyberpunk was the more obscure and grittier 'punk' a few years ago, but as of now my inner contrarian leans towards steampunk. Neither has much thought or philosophy behind it so go with whatever time period you like more.

>>18712709
the domesticated humans from The Time Machine but with dissonant mystery meat tumblr profile pictures

>>18713026
>the domesticated humans from The Time Machine but with dissonant mystery meat tumblr profile pictures
They seem way more intelligent than the Eloi