/lit/ - Literature

>>18697319
Dont read secondary literature, read the source.

>>18697319
start with the greeks

Read Camatte

>>18697319
Communism is capitalism in decay, fascism is communism in decay.

>>18697319
>secondary literature
imagine

>>18697319
The lgbtsjwtfnpc crowd are purpose engineered biopolitical clientele for the managerial therapeutic state and the neoliberal monoculture. Essentially a docile homogenous mass of subhuman consumer cattle who dont breed think or question authority. The movement for peoples renewal can only begin with the cleansing of diseased elements.

>>18697319
>discrimination exists and there is a long tradition of analysis in relation to social modes
>Marx wrote about economic domination, though it is important to remember that this is a simplification
I don't see a problem here, it sounds to me like you are just triggered by the fact that Heinrich acknowledges that racism, sexism etc. exist, and that there is very likely value in discussing such things despite it being deemphasized by Marx.

>>18697717
Look, Mum! I repeated that quote I read again! I'm so smart, Mum, tell me I'm smart again!

>>18697319
They want to destroy the Western Civilization first (to fulfill his "prediction"). Just because, replacing it with outright slavery would be "better" for them. Whatever sabotage they can come up with goes.

>>18697831
I mean what have leftists and their corporate masters ever done beyond replacing christ on the cross with a pink haired obese faggot on a wheelchair? I mean at least the old christian clergy kept alive classical culture tried to keep the child raping at a respectable level while the politically correct lgbtsjwtfnpc crowd wants to brainwash us into thinking its progressive and normal their only culture is shitty corporate propaganda. I mean the queer wont grant you eternal life or even forgive you for the sins of your bigotted white ancestors so im just saying itd be pretty funny if we could get together two planks of wood and a bucketful of nails and actually crucify that fucker for real

>>18697831
I mean have you tried bringing up nietzsche or any western philosopher for that matter around your local lgbtsjwtfnpc marxist cattle? In no time you will see their beady stupid cowlike eyes light up in panic. Soon enough they will start with the usual subhuman bleating "wasnt he sexist? Arent you being dangerously eurocentric? Hasnt it been debunked as fake news pseudoscience?Why read books by dead white men when you could have been streaming the latest diverse and inclusive workplace comedies at netflix hulu and disneygo? Didnt you know reading antything beyond YA literature is ableist towards people who are too retarded to read? How does this further the short term electoral goals of the democratic party?are you saying child sex workers arent real sex workers?Have you been taking your SSRIs and HRT? it is very important that you take the medication dr goldstein prescribed otherwise we will report you to corporate for mandatory sensitivity training as per the domestic terrorism act of 2021"

>>18697319
Marxists kept predicting the end of capitalism but it was the communist projects that failed. Meanwhile, new social movements rose up partly taking their cue from workers' exploitation to devise their own theories of liberation.
Laclau & Mouffe's work is one of the most instructive in reshuffling class struggle not as the core one but just one among other struggles

>>18697873
I mean if these people are going to call you a fascist for not wanting to be a second class citizen in your own country for the crime of reading old books having thoughts unapproved by corporate media or not wanting children to be molested can fascism probably be all that bad?

>>18697842
>>18697863
Ok, now try rewriting that as anything but the screed of a severely mentally ill individual.

>>18697884
>can fascism probably be all that bad
It sure can, they just call every normal person a fascist, for their own convoluted reasons.

>>18697896
I've understood it just fine, are you all right anon?

>>18697863
Have you ever met a Marxist who works. This is my piss break but I exist.

>>18697900
The man is fighting windmills.

>>18697952
Have you read what's on the OP image?

>>18697740
Explain the tranny that I met that spends all day reading the bible, reading in conspiracies about the nwo, and refusing to associate with what they call "satanic society"

>>18697969
It was a dream?

>>18697969
Were can i get schizophrenic tranny gf who rants about biblical prophecies?

>>18697969
Porn fried their brain and made them a tranny. They kept their existing schizo eccentricities.

>>18697842
>>18697863
>>18697884
>I mean
>I mean
>I mean
The faggots must have gotten you too because you type like a massive one

>>18697319
as a means of self-preservation, capital has removed the revolutionary content of socialism, transforming it into leftism, which has a progressive or sometimes even revolutionary appearance, but is permanently confined within the limits of bourgeois society. the history of this is pretty much concentrated within the lifespans of the Second and Third Internationals

on the degeneration of the Second International
https://www.marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/1900/reform-revolution/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/csi/

on the united front strategy of the early Third International that allowed for the leftization of communist parties
http://www.sinistra.net/lib/upt/comlef/cote/cotesdacoe.html

on the transformation of the Third International into an agent of bourgeois state interest
https://libriincogniti.wordpress.com/2018/08/01/prometeo-the-tactics-of-the-comintern-1926-1940/

>>18697831
>>18697863
>>18697884
what did he
>I mean
by this bros

>>18698776
Thanks. Only on-topic post so far anon.

>>18699551
Reminder that lefties consider fascism as the 'last defense of capitalism' too; they label literally anything that's happening currently with the same name; it's just a cope for why Communism hasn't actually come yet.

The real reason being of course that LTV is retarded and wrong and yet the bedrock of all Commie thought.

>>18699585
That's a very superficial critique.

>>18697319
>This is likely the most popular secondary literature on Karl Marx's Kapital.
And it is...?

>>18697740
I somewhat agree with the text, dumb pic to go with btw

>>18697319
hes literally telling you that karl marx wont be talking about sexism and racism, so im not sure what your point is?

>>18697842
>I mean
when will they require IQ tests to post here?

>>18699585
LTV was the bedrock of all capitalist thought too, read a book

>>18697831
>despite it being deemphasized by Marx.
???

>But you Communists would introduce community of women, screams the whole bourgeoisie in chorus.

>The bourgeois sees in his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion, than that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women.

>He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production.

>For the rest, nothing is more ridiculous than the virtuous indignation of our bourgeois at the community of women which, they pretend, is to be openly and officially established by the Communists. The Communists have no need to introduce community of women; it has existed almost from time immemorial.

>Our bourgeois, not content with having the wives and daughters of their proletarians at their disposal, not to speak of common prostitutes, take the greatest pleasure in seducing each others' wives.

>Bourgeois marriage is in reality a system of wives in common and thus, at the most, what the Communists might possibly be reproached with, is that they desire to introduce, in substitution for a hypocritically concealed, an openly legalized community of women. For the rest, it is self-evident, that the abolition of the present system of production must bring with it the abolition of the community of women springing from that system, i. e., of prostitution both public and private.

>>18697842
>tried to keep the child raping at a respectable level
You deserve to die.

>>18698776
>capital has removed the revolutionary content of socialism
Big capital has been funding leftism since the beginning in a counterrevolutionary effort to overthrow the classical liberalism aka "capitalism" (Engels was paying for Marx blabbering, American industrialists had build the Soviet industry and defended it from the Germans to give it a second chance).
They do it in an attempt to completely monopolize the markets again; huge, centralized corporations *want* strong, centralized state (which they can easily influence; heck, JP Morgan had been sponsoring *both* Republican and Democratic presidential candidates at the same time..) to decimate their independent competitors. Big authoritarian capital *is* leftism incorporated; their pathetic attempt to gain popular, workers support for this fraud had eventually failed miserably though and thus came this laughable focus on "sexual minorities" lol.

>>18697319
you know how squirrels run back and forth in the road when they see a car coming? if this is the squirrel's way of dominating the car, it is marxism. if the car crashes, that is a leftist victory and proof that they are righteous in their cause.

https://rumble.com/vcn735-the-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-pod-people.html

>>18699785
Holy jesus

>>18699785
Cite your sources. Intuition is worthless if you can't back it up.

>>18699763
LTV was a retarded reach by Smith who felt it to be wrong, a tentative 'there's nothing better' by Ricardo, yet a full on metaphysical necessity per Marx, derived through Hegel.

Read a book nigger.

>>18699785
Based schizo 'they're all behind it all' anon

>>18699837
Absolutely none of the facts I've included is controversial in the slightest (e.g. did an industrialist Engels fund K. Marx writings?) I have connected the dots, feel free to (try to) connect them differently.
What additional "source" do you need? A written confession by JP Morgan (or F. Engels) that all they wanted was to just fuck "the workers" in the ass?

>>18697319
No respectable Marxist claims anti-racism or sexism is antithetical to “real Marxism," though they disagree with certain approaches or methods used by liberal anti-racists or feminists. Cuba, for example, has long espoused an anti-racist line, and has even financially supported identity politics/”SJW“ thinkers like Nancy Morejón. The equality of women is loudly promoted by the Communist Parties of India, who hold some power on the state and local levels.

Your required reading is learning about Marxism beyond commie cosplayers and edgy memes.

Marxists just cant help getting dommed by the Liberal Chad. Tale as old as time

You read Marx.
Someone posted this a while ago. Might be what you need.

>>18699925
LTV is not a metaphysical necessity for Marx. value is a metaphysical necessity for about everyone except Marxists, but for Marxists products will cease having values after capitalism is abolished and production is planned by society

>>18700931
this, the goal is to abolish the value form altogether

>>18700033
>read Marx
>recommendeds a book that's not by Marx
do better

>>18697710
This. This World We Must Leave and Capital and Community are the best marxist lit.

>>18700985
>You CANNOT suggest two choices for the OP
>I will NOT allow this.
Stick baked potato up there

>>18701707
it's okay butterfly no one is under any illusion you actually read. remember when you got really into xenofeminism for like a month and then I pointed out the first sentence of the Manifesto affirms trans women so you turned on it lmao you are such a fraud

>>18699925
Hegel made Marx his bitch from beyond the grave. Hegel engineered the entire 20th Century with his dialectic, like the master sorcerer he is.

>>18701726
So is Butters a TERF now?

>>18701819
she always has been. just reply "trans rights" to every post she makes, she loves that

>>18699959
The Cubans supported anti-racist and anti-colonial struggles to the fucking hilt. I liked BLM taking a hardline anti-embargo stance. Buh... whaaaa? It's an organization led by a bunch of black leftist women who have read Assata Shakur. And the Cuban government's relationship to BLM is determined by the relationship of BLM to their struggle. That's how it is.

https://youtu.be/9q7ub4aMOFs

>>18700931
You are utterly wrong. LTV is something only believed in by Marxists because it's not how value actually works in this or any other world.

>>18701869
read books

>>18701858
I'm gonna have to simp for Butters then. I love Terfs.

>>18701898
>I love radical feminist lesbians!
she's not going to sleep with you bro plus she's at least 60

>>18701726

>>18701914
Wants to catfish teenage girls but theres only incels and trannies

>>18699770
The priests werent raping children out in the street, at least they had the decency to cover it up.

>>18701914
I'm a volcel anyway. I have to support Terfs. Terfs are not cryptoliberals and they don't engage in the retconning bs that afflicts all sects of the left to conform with the latest demands of capitalist ideology.

>>18701954
Tradcaths trannies terfs, marxists in general, normal happy people dont end up like that you end up like like that from getting horribly raped and molested as a child

>>18701941
Fuck off

>>18701707
Trans rights are human rights

>>18702190
Reminder: if you support 'trans rights' this is what you are supporting

>>18702208
I support the complete freedom of everyone to do exactly as they want

>>18701869
no, it's believed by Marxists because they're interested in understanding the workings capitalism and because prices of commodities under capitalism are determined by the amount of socially necessary labour time required to reproduce them

>>18702278
I want to kill you. I'm glad you support my freedom to end your existence.

>>18702314
noooooo that's wrong!!

>>18702208
He is right, I masturbated as a very young kid
Still, I wouldn't allow any non-family adult near naked children
And yes I do know that most of sexual violence happens within families

>>18702278
Trans people are just children and mentally ill people being exploded by corporations and the democratic party as an easy source of votes and money. If you have talked to any of them the first thing that is evident is how brainwashed and ideological they seem. If they were just perverts doing what gets them off i would be ok with them but these are highly disturbed and ideological freaks workimg at the behalf of a political machine. Notice also how fixated they seem to be on going after children

>>18702493
This describes every single american desu

>>18699785
communism is the abolishment of private property

>>18701726
I read Zeros and Ones. You’re the one that signed me up for some internet club.

*goes back to book*

>>18702538
nope, that was all you. Sadie Plant literally talks about how modernity turns people female. the feminizing element of technology is the core tenet of Zeros + Ones. trans people are valid and they are better carriers of Sadie Plant's thought than some old reactionary terf

>>18702278
Tell me if these people are so good then why arent we allowed to criticize them?

>>18702729
Im not transphobic it aint my fault every last one of them is brainwashed and completely insufferable

Read this.

>>18702763
Paul gottfried's book multiculturalism and the politics of guilt is dedicated to his son a medical practitioner who told him to please turn his rants on political correctness into a book lest he give an aneurysm. Also funny how a jewish proffesor came up with the concept of alt right.

>>18702729
>Le purpose engineered biopolitical clientele for the managerial therapeutic state and the neoliberal monoculture embodding any principle beyond mindless consumerism and conformity.

>>18702729
These people want us broke dead our children raped and brainwashed and they think its pretty funny. They are deranged violence is the only language they understand

>>18702763
>marxism
>left in the new millennium
what did he mean by this

>>18697325
bad take

>>18697884
You do know the fascists molested children too anon. They were cross-dressing fags. Wouldn't be surprised if Mengle nutted in a few before ripping their hearts out.

>>18697884
>>18704794
Adding to this they also destroyed old books. They burned Dostoyevsky in the book burnings

>>18698262
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>>18697896
Hey there newfaggots! welcome to /lit/. Make sure to lurk for a couple of years before posting!