/lit/ - Literature

First for Terry Pratchett

First for litrpg is great.

>>18680124
So what is further down the slope - the anniemay or the 3D?

>>18680124
And if it is (gasp!) both?

Is there anything else that does a good blend of sci-fi and Procedural drama like Ghost in the Shell? Cop show in the future appeals to me a lot, but Ghost in the Shell is really the only thing I've encountered that actually focuses on it. Unfortunately, GitS isn't actually a very large franchise in terms of actual content.

>>18680209
Despite the emergence of ironic weebs and crafty slags who imitate hentai instead of the other way around, 2D is down much further of course

>>18680245
Altered Carbon, Aurora Rising, Great North Road I haven't read any of them

Here's Tirion upon Tuna.

>>18680294
>shadman

Brandon Sanderson Brandon Sanderson Brandon Sanderson Brandon Sanderson

why is it so hard for genre fiction to capture what love really is like

>>18680393
There are a lot of genre works that feature cuckoldry, though?

>Cnaiur spat
>Cnaiur spat
>Cnaiur spat
>Cnaiur spat
>Cnaiur spat

>>18680509
It's hard to get the taste of dick out of your mouth

what even is magical realism
what's a good starter book to introduce me to this trope? genre?

>>18680605
kind of hard to explain but once you read one or two you'll understand what it is.
>Magical realism is a genre of literature that depicts the real world as having an undercurrent of magic or fantasy.
that's probably the best definition i could find
i haven't read a whole lot of them myself so i don't have a whole lot of suggestions. i really enjoyed the enchantress of florence by salman rushie. one hundred years of solitude seems to be the most popular one.

What are some kino fantasy stories that are like Lord Dunsany and George MacDonald?

Friendly reminder that Reverend Insanity is good.

>>18680710
where can I read it?
I see the author is asian, are the translations good?

>>18680393
Love is hard anon.
There is an entire genre, far more popular than fantasy or scifi, dedicated to it. And even when the work is focused on nothing but the romance between two people, they fail more often than not.
But I also miss good love stories in this genre. Love is often portrait as shallow or even an obstruction for the plot. Therefore, authors don’t want to “waste” more time on it, and the romance turns out to be annoying and boring. A bit like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I really want a fantasy story about a loving family in its core. Don’t really care much about the exact genre. Give me a Buddenbrooks-isekai mix for all I care.

>>18680710
Sad but it will never be finished.

>>18680118
Why didn't you link this new thread to the old thread?

>>18681161
...

>>18680710
Came here to post this

>>18680716
https://novelfull.com/reverend-insanity/chapter-1.html

Babel-17 sucks

>>18680393
Tell me anon, what is love really like?

>>18680393
Not science fiction or fantasy

Daily reminder that Maud'Dib was a war criminal who killed 60 billion people and ordered battle drums made from the skins of his enemies. Say what you will about the Beast Raban, at least he respected some laws.

>>18680393
You came to the right place. Try the Left Hand of Darkness.

>>18681336
Muad'Dib was the law.

quick question with implied 1st law trilogy spoilers
Does Glokta play any significant role in Abercrombies 2nd trilogy? He is the most interesting.

>>18680389
sambum branderdum

>>18681336
War crimes are a Jewish fiction created to justify unreasonable penalties on their victims.

>>18681893
It's been 70+ years anon.
Give it a rest already.

>>18681336
That was all for a good cause.

>>18680389
Brandon Sanderson

Bruce Sterling recommendations? I read and loved Involution Ocean, currently reading and enjoying Schismatrix

I'm not sure whether I should get The Artificial Kid, Islands in the Net or Holy Fire?

Also is Heavy Weather any good? I'm ambivalent on the description but it seems to have good reviews and I've enjoyed what I've read from him so far. Anyone here read it?

>“Monke!”

>>18681937
It's the same for all wars since at least WWI. Everything the loser does is a war crime, everything the winner does is collateral damage or never talked about. The only time the idea makes sense is when both sides agree to defer to a common authority, which is historically rare and not the case in Dune.

image is way too big to post here (6860x3205) but you guys gotta see this shit if you like classic fantasy art
>http://img2.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/full/Masters-of-the-Universe-art-Earl-Norem-He-Man-6549702.jpeg

>>18682099
this whole gallery is worth checking out actually
>http://joyreactor.cc/post/4720845

>>18682099
That's not either "classical" or "fantasy" art.
That's a fucking toy commercial you stunted manchild.
Grow up.

>>18682123
Not him but that's clearly the type of art you'd see on old fantasy covers, regardless of what it's actually based on. Eat shit faggot.

>>18680710
too based for the ccp. it will never ever be finished

What are your 5 must-read science fiction novels for a guy who never reads science fiction?

>>18680378
>being a big enough normalfag to think something like shadman is noteworthy for any reason

>>18681336
Can't be a war criminal if there's nobody powerful enough to charge you for it.

>>18680389
I remember when people went nuts for Mistborn. My mom got me the book for Christmas I think, she said the guy at Barnes & Noble recommended it. How do I explain this... the whole thing felt like a rug pull in a meta sense. There was nothing necessarily wrong with the story or the prose, but...

>Novel opens
>Noble is looking forward to raping a crying slave girl later
>Inspector gives him a wink
>Says he's technically not supposed to be having relations with a skaa because bastards, but since he's going to have her put to death the next morning he's following the spirit of the law even if he isn't following the letter
>This is portrayed as part of the normal state of affairs
>Enter Kelsier
>Later on in the book Sanderson is trying to throw down cues that you're supposed to think that Kelsier is too extreme
>Out of the gate he used every trick, including various cheap tricks, to make the Final Empire bad
>Whole underlying premise is that the Final Empire and the Lord Ruler had good reasons for doing that they did

The thing is that he wants to take the audience on this ride where he "subverts your expectations", but he does everything in his power to set those expectations which he then "cleverly subverts". It's like a magician whose whole shtick is doing sleight of hand then wagging his finger at you and giving you a lecture about watching the wrong hand, but in novel form.

At least that's my opinion.

>>18682393
>It's like a magician whose whole shtick is doing sleight of hand then wagging his finger at you and giving you a lecture about watching the wrong hand, but in novel form
That could done in a comedic way

>>18682179
Was he getting a lot of money for it? Surely there could be a way for him to release it to the west or at least taiwan, where china censorship doesn't reach

>>18682425
It totally wasn't though

>>18682393
I have a friend who doesn't keep up with fantasy discussion at all, he just goes to used book stores and picks things that look neat. When I mentioned Sanderson to him, he didn't recognize him until I said he wrote Mistborn, which my friend had actually read. He was blown away how popular he is.

He actually assumed, without any biases or knowledge, that he was just some forgotten about author that nobody cared about since his writing was so mediocre.

>>18682512
Your friend is the smart one. Not paying attention to reviews or discussion about books before you read them is the best way to do things.

>>18682535
But how will you engage complete strangers on teh interbutts and miss all the interaction?

>>18682205
Common opinion: Eyes of the Overworld is the only hard 5 star sci-fi.

>>18682827
>Eyes of the Overworld
How can it be hard sci-fi when it's old as balls?

>>18682862
Because it's not hard sci-fi, and hard sci-fi was invented in the 19th century?

>hard sci-fi
I'm more about tard sci-fi desu

>>18683165
Like Star Wars?

>>18683183
>Like Star Wars?
oh, no, not that retarded. I was thinking more along the lines of Starship Troopers and Gateway.

patrick gnomefuss

>>18683214
He must be pulling mad pussy with that hat.

>>18683210
>Starship Troopers
Never fails to trigger.

how do chinese web novelists/authors manage to speed write so well?

Is there any inphographic for miliary sci-fi like starship troopers? Looking for more recs in the sub genre

>>18683646
By being bugmen churning out cheap garbage, same as the rest of their industries, quantity of output over quality

>>18683875
if you use good reads you can try their recommendations thingy
just create a shelf for all the military sci-fi you've read and they'll do the rest

>>18681937
> Give it a rest already.
Lmao, tell that to the jews

Started reading through the Earthsea books and was really pleasantly surprised with Tombs of Atuan. Definitely going to finish the trilogy but curious what /lit/ thinks about the following books.

>>18683930
They hate it because le guin clearly articulated the political ideas behind the series in an accompanying essay

>>18683930
>>18684040
why did she feel the need to announce the characters are brown? Idek if the books are good (haven't read yet, will if I find books cheap/free) but seriously if it doesn't come up like she claimed why even bother?

At least she wrote in an era when people cared about quality, nowadays you don't need to for praise

Half of the reason I write is to romantically describe various fantastical natural settings and do cool fights with magic

>>18684109
The characters have had their skin colours described since the beginning, its not like it was added after the fact or something, it's mentioned in passing a few times since there are different races in the world.

>>18683646
Because they are based and red pilled, unlike onions American writers who do 1 chapter a month

>>18684109
If you don't like descriptions why read fantasy? Every other author gives paragraphs of descriptions for tables and food.

>>18684596
>Every other shitty author gives paragraphs of descriptions for tables and food.
Fixed that for you, bro.

>>18684532
>Cuttlefish started Lord of the Mysteries in 2019 and finished in march of the following year.
>LOTM is 1.79 million characters long

I... I... kneel to chink speedwriting.

>>18683646
chinese is the superior language, uber compact

>>18682438
VPNs, but I dunno how he wants to handle it. I used to follow a Wuxiaworld guy sharing edited versions of his books for a while, then he just got too busy to edit his long stories together.

>>18684695
In theory he could work with a publishing company to make an original title, but Qidian would still have the original IP under their US branch, I think.

>>18684705
Or probably under Qidian original control. Sounds like a tough situation.

Will Stirling ever produce kino like this again, or has he permanently shifted over into mass-produced post-apocalyptic cloakshit?

>>18684736
Well apparently the author plans to finish Reverend Insanity one way or another, his chink autism drives him

>tfw you are but a humble heuristic and you're on the verge of collapse

>>18685032
>t.

>>18680605
truthfully, it's a bunch of modernists realizing that genre fiction (specifically fantasy) makes for some really interesting ways to talk about reality/history, but only if you're SUPER CEREAL and totally not already a genre writer (because ewww, genre writers cater to plebs and they're gross).

one hundred years of solitude is considered the epitome of magical realism. i have to agree, it's hella comfy
borges' ficciones is up there too
pretty much any of the latin american boom writers used magical realism in some or all of their writing
rushdie's midnight's children
i guess toni morrison's beloved too

it feels overdone now, especially when done by a western author or for shitty political activism (n.b. isabel allende)

>>18683226
doesn't rothfuck have a really messed up personal life? like he and his wife? gf? idk? were both thirsting after some dorky personal assistant of theirs and then tried to deny it and then tried to ruin the woman's reputation after she posted texts/emails? or am i getting this fat fuck confused with another pretend feminist?

>>18685131
i hope this is true and wish to see screenshots.

>>18685131
You’re confusing him with Scott lynch, who had a three way relationship with some slut who then tried to throw the wife under the bus and become head of the harem.

>>18685222
Kek.
Be honest /sffg/… do you look like pic related?

>>18685222
>>18685242
So is he not married to uggo Elizabeth Bear anymore?

>>18685032
>LE CRASH SPACE……. OF MEANING!

>>18685242
>>18685342
they really do look like Alabamans

Can't stop reading it.

>>18685477
>Can’t stop sneeding it.

A friend recommended Good Intentions by Elliot Kay. I read some reviews and opinions about it and I think he's yanking my chain. Is it any good?

>>18685496
I don't know
he's your friend, read it and get mad at him or something
why are you robbing yourself of an experience

>>18685504
>all experiences are good
retard

sauron's orcs = huns harrasing the roman empire
easterlings = their germanic vassals
southerlings = arabs and turks ?

>>18685798
Tolkien=disappointed in you

Any anons read the Record of Lodoss War series? I enjoyed the animation and am wondering if the books are worth getting.

>>18685242
>>18685342
I thought Bakker was a chick magnet, at least back in the day, why'd he marry these disgusting troglodytes?

Started The Warrior Prophet and just finished the first battle of the Holy War. This shit is great.

>>18686409
(cont.) I enjoyed The Darkness That Comes Before but about three-fourths through I was beginning to understand that the entire book was a build-up for the next one, which irritated me. I considered not continuing but so far it's been paying off.

>>18686406
that’s scott lynch, dummy

>>18686003
this, reading tolkien as real world allegory is subhuman tier

Anyone knows any science fiction book where nothing bad happens? Solarpunk. I watched Yuri Gagarin movie where nothing bad happened, smth like that.

The Thorn of Emberlain is getting released this year, right?

>>18686520
Isn't scott lynch the guy the got destroyed in a divorce? I don't mean him. I mean long haired blondie Bakker. There's tons of pic of him with young female fans of him out there. I would have thought he marries some impressionable 18 year old that worshiped him. Not these vomit inducing hags.

>>18686592
Try Becky Chambers Wayfarers series.

>>18686748
Cool. I see the author has prizes. ty!

>>18681336
Muad'Dib was a little pussy who saw The Golden Path™ and ran away from it instead of embracing it.

>>18686177
I think they're all getting proper translations finally and the story is solid so I'm going to say yes, but in reality I downloaded them and never read them bc I could never get them working on my ereader and I just want to shill Lodoss

>>18682099
>>18682123
>>18682165
Whatever it is, it is ugly as fuck.

>>18682205
>5 must-read science fiction novels for a guy who never reads science fiction
Hyperion by Dan Simmon The Forever War by Joe Haldeman, Dune by Frank Herbert, The Left Hand of Darkness and/or The Dispossessed by Ursula K LeGuin, Starship Troopers by Robert A Heinlein and finally The Stars my Destination by Alfred Bester.

>>18686748
I tried to read the first book but didnt make it more than about a third in. The most brazen, hamfisted, anti-white-racism pamphlet for woke, leftist SJW ideology I have ever read. It became unbearable. That book is unbelievable trash.

Read it.

>>18687594
>female author

Let there be light

Fuck E William Brown
Fuck Pay Walls
Fuck Pay Pigs
Fuck Delays
Fuck Lies
Fuck No Releases
Fuck You

>>18687766 When will you include yourself?

>>18685496
It's among the best of the harem lit that's become popular in the west recently but that's like saying its the meth head with the best teeth

Found The Eye of the World at a local shop for 2$ but the first 14 pages are torn out, I can probably make sense of it from there right?

>>18687766
Fuck bakker

>>18688090
the prologue is the best part. but yes.

>>18687612
Seething

Is Horus Rising really that good?

>Great is the victory of the Ñoldoli!

Anyone read The Rig by Roger Levy?

Can someone explain what the fuck was the point of the Tallen?

>>18688217
>Best part of an 800pg novel is the prologue
Grim

>>18686003
>>18686520
friends, I guess finding them everywhere but rohirim are literraly anglo saxons on horses, Numenor is Atlantis. Lake town are scandis, or I think in his mind modern nords descended from them. He obviously took inspiration from real history or mythology
Tolkien even compared orcs to mongolids so the hunis connection makes the most sense as huns were nasty cunts.

>>18689534
>the huns were nasty cunts
Seething angloid cope.

>>18689577
The Huns, like most pastoral peoples, were primarily remembered for works destroyed rather than works raised.

>>18689577
*every culture ever bordering the steppe

Is this worth reading?

Is it as good as stuff like Jack Vance or Gene Wolfe fantasy works?

>>18689653
It's good and worth reading but it doesn't have the depth of a Wolfe.

>>18689653
>Is it as good as stuff like Jack Vance or Gene Wolfe fantasy works?
No. In fact compared specifically to Vance and Wolfe it comes across rather poorly written, but it is ground zero for grimderp so if you're a fan of edgy epic fantasy then you should read it. It isn't terrible, but definitely not on Vance or Wolfe's level.

>>18680118
Serious question, are there any science-fiction books regarded as highly as traditional classics? Like Faulkner and Melville?

>>18690192
It's too recent a genre to have classics.

I'm finally reading Rifters.
So basically, crazy people beat the shit out of each other at the bottom of the ocean.

About halfway through. No Spoilers!

>>18689653
Vance and Wolfe are a lot more variable where Cook is consistently around Rhialto the Marvelous quality. He's chiefly about comfy military grandpa stories and waifus.

What’s even the appeal? I’m two pages in… and it’s just info dumps

>>18690454
You mean you don't enjoy reading science fiction that reads like an instruction manual? Now you know why the """"Golden Age"""" of sci-fi literature killed its popularity.

>>18688438
Seems like another autismal pop scifi franchise book from here. Maybe better than average as those go. Is it good scifi? No.

Ok, I am about to sound like the biggest faggot on this board, but in the chance that any of you read LNs, is the Full Metal Panic LN any good? Also, is gormenghast worth a read? My teacher presented it as the "other side of the coin" to Manalive and Phantastes.

>>18690493
It’s fine if there’s some exposition but it doesn’t seem to be going anywhere except explicitly telling me what FTL travel is… I suppose it was a more alien and novel concept when it came out

>>18690514
Gormenghast is a classic, a must read in my opinion.

>>18683646
The one benefit of their written language compared to the many disadvantages. Reads and writes turbofast.

>>18680126
Where are all my pratchett bros?

>>18690493
Golden Age big 3 is level 1 kosher social conditioning. Not even the best writers of their generation and the press still jacks their corpses off 60 years later.

>>18690514
I haven't read the LN but considering how good the anime was I'm sure its worth a shot. Gorme is good

Why would Kurt Vonnegut say something so controversial but so true?

>>18690896
probably because he left out that the other thing that all sff readers share a love for is ragging on sff readers as a group

>>18690896
Not so much controversial as bedrock assumption.

>>18691005
>bedrock assumption.
What does this mean?

>>18691111
That everyone assumes the sci-fi fandom is a collection of gay little clubs. Most gayest the Hugos, Nebulas, and (((best seller))) lists, and that fans like to be childish and take the piss out of each other for being childish. This wouldn't even have been a hot take to someone inured in the genre in the late 60s.

>>18691232
But it was written in 1965

>>18691252
...in the 6th year of the decade, yes.

>>18690200
Ah yes, the ol' "CENTURIES MUST PASS BEFORE A CONSENSUS IS REACHED!"

>>18681336
Muad'Dib is a war criminal because he didn't follow The Golden Path to its completion.

>>18691432
More like at least wait for them to be in the ground 10 years before you declare them immortal. In 50 years it's very likely The Left Hand of Darkness will be required reading for high school students and Melville will be some dead racist.

I've been meaning to write, and specifically write sword and planet, for years now, so I'm finally diving in to read some actual sword and planet, as I've only ever seen the movies or read comics, and I started with this

It's okay, a little too sexual, which seems to be a theme in this author's work according to wiki, it almost seems like the author is one of those people who romanticizes non-civilized peoples as super free wheeling and hippie like (this was written in 1965), and from very early on the MC is discussing public coitus, which I think is just kinda tacky, reminds me that I should probably never bother to read Gor

>>18691786
Check out The Last Ancestor by Alexander Hellene if you want to read some modern S&P that's the complete opposite of that degenerate trash.

>>18691812
Is this known to be kinda trashy? I haven't finished a book in forever so I plan on finishing this at least but right after I'll read Last Ancestor

Strange how the sci-fi thread attracts more positive people.

>>18691826
what would you read sci-fi if you didn't have hopes for the future

>>18691829
*why

>>18691823
Hell I don't know; never even heard of it until you posted it, but from what you've described it sounds trashy.

>>18691826
I always look at it this way, I don't base my world view on reading, I don't read to discover new ways to look at life, I find that odd, when I want to know more about life, I live, I work, I hike, I volunteer, I experience, I don't need other people to tell me what to think, but I feel like, a lot of people who read, and especially the ones who like reading the humanities, that is their mentality, they read to live, I think you can't live through books, so I just enjoy them, which means I read books like people watch movies, give me spy stories, sci fi, fantasy, whatever

Holy shit TDTCB is even better in the first reread

>>18692017
Just finished it

As someone who has never read a fantasy book prior, it was pretty amazing. Hopefully the rest of the series holds up just as well

>Great is the victory of the Noldoli!

>>18689653
First book is an easy recommendation. After that it depends on whether you like Cook's writing style. Then you reconsider whether you're done with the story after the first trilogy + Silver Spike is done. You should keep in mind the Black Company is nowhere NEAR grimdark or edgy as reputations may lead you to believe, though.

>>18690454
>and it’s just info dumps
you are big baby

>>18690493
It's not an instruction manual. Classic SF was simply not character or drama driven. This is what makes it unpalatable to modern readers.

>>18683214
> He made an articulate gesture.


What other phrases

>>18692043
I'm not much further than you in the series, but the Holy War gets rolling at the start of the next book and all the buildup starts to pay off.

>>18690265
Starfish was sick. Drops off a little in the next books but still worth reading IMO.

>>18692595
>Over the following weeks, the Men of the Tusk would find thousands of bloated horses on the road to Hinnereth. They had been ridden to death, so mad were the heathen to escape the iron men of the Holy War.

>>18688249
>there are people who truly believe being a published author means anything

>>18692294
I like this illustration because one of her eyes is further up her face than the other one and I can relate.

>>18683646
they actually work normal hours instead of western writers who write 1h a day if at all

>>18680219
I will never fully understand why some 'people' like the cheap whore look.

>>18692630
Do you have the one with the kid with fucked up legs who gets disparaged by the aunt? That was the best one.

>>18681937
Tell that to the Israelites. They still demand reparations from Poland for German crimes on Polish citizens (sic!).

>>18692323
I'm completely fine having Asimov just describe things to me, it's pretty great, I still remember his description of that gravitational lift they use in Before Foundation that has like a 1% chance of killing the user every time

>>18692323
How sad that folks back then had so little to choose from they were forced to endure the dry, bloodless writings of expositionists and proclaim as the height of fiction.

>>18683646
Most of their novels are boilerplate writing. They could very well be assembled via algorithms.

>>18684799
>cloakshit
?

>>18689577
Huns mudrered millions of people in an era where that constituted a hefty percentage of the entire Earth's population. There's a reason literally every European culture considers them evil.

>>18689653
Cook is nothing like Vance or Wolfe. He writes a fusion of fantasy and military fiction. The best way to get you to understand how he writes is imagine a Vietnam War autobiography but set in a fantasy world and the soldier writing it is not particularly well educated. That Black Company.

Cook has written other things too but nobody ever seems to talk about them, it's always Black Company. For once I'd like somebody to talk to about Instrumentalities of the Night.

>>18681336
Should've finished what he started.

>>18692294
>You should keep in mind the Black Company is nowhere NEAR grimdark or edgy as reputations may lead you to believe, though.
It was fairly edgy and grim for its era, which was the mid 1980s. You're comparing it by modern standards and Cook is one of the authors that had a big impact on later grim and edgy fantasy authors of the 90s and early 00s. Notably, Steven Erickson cites him as a big influence.

>>18693878
As much as I love Asimov and old school hard sci fi, there's a reason why Moorcock and other authors led a new wave in the 60s/70s, the reality is, the 20s-60s were a golden age of engineering and the trades, and to sit there and just explain things to the reader like it's an academic book wasn't that out of step with the times, these were made for the kinds of people that gleefully watched things like this back in the day

https://youtu.be/S_N3EYMgya4?t=1469

Over three weeks since release and still no pirate copy of either of Camerons new books.

Has anyone read this? Is it comparable to Blightsight by Watts?

>>18693919
>Cook has written other things too but nobody ever seems to talk about them
Yeah, Black Company isn't his best work in a lot of ways. Most accessible to people who just read Lord of the Rings maybe.

>>18691786
I'm further in now, about a third of the way through, this is nice, very good action, well developed world, and there's not so much silly "the MC gets saved at the last second a hundred times over" bullshit, it happens once or twice but he mainly survives by actually constantly making smart decisions

>So did the Grandmaster of the Mandate come down from his mountain, a marble of solitary light treading over dark and ravenous tracts—pearl scalps, gesticulating limbs, masticating rage. They scratched at his image, screamed their outrage, disgorged numberless arrows and javelins, so that for those watching horrified from the mountains, he seemed a lodestone sucking up filings in black, bristling clouds.

>>18694387
Yes. No.

>>18691786
Gor isn't overtly sexual so much as there are lots of implied scenarios. Which Norman was most definitely beating off to.

>>18694738
Yeahhh I'm gonna avoid it, I wanna become an autist of S&P/S&S/Lost World and have read a stupid amount of it but I might just skip stuff like this entirely

>>18693919
>Cook has written other things too but nobody ever seems to talk about them, it's always Black Company.
His military SF outing is also decent, albeit really truncated.

>>18691786
Gor is really fun you should read it. First 10 or something before he starts changing the MC

>>18693919
>Instrumentalities of the Night.
I've had it on my kindle for years but never got around to reading it. I read he lost his only copy of the last book or something and it killed my interest.

>>18694774
I'll try it, but if I find anything that would make me embarrassed to own a physical copy I'm holding you, an anonymous poster on 4chan who I'll never find, responsible

>>18694770
what's it about

any recommendations for good military scifi in general? i just reread the halo trilogy by eric nylund and i enjoyed it a lot. the heroism and scale of the massacres that the MCs inflict on the evil covenant get a bit too silly sometimes but you know, it was a fun ride. although i might be biased because i'm nostalgic of the halo universe so maybe i'm not into the genre after all, that's why i ask for recommendations here

Need a book that'll best emulate the feeling of playing fallout NV
adventuring with companions, visiting from settlement to settlement, resting and stocking up, maybe doing some favors for the settlers before eventually moving on to the next settlement

>>18694770
I recently finished that. You could tell he was planning on expanding that out into at least a trilogy and didn't have the time or interest. Darkwar is still his best sci-fi-ish book IMO, but it was a cool setting, and what he does with Midnight is pretty amazing.

>>18695523
You could just watch Walking Dead.

>>18694661
Okay but is it good?

>>18696127
Not that anon but it's good.
While it does not possess the same quality of writing as Blindsight it is a well written exploration of alienness, for lack of a better word.

>>18683930
The third book (Farthest Shore I think) was my favorite, great conclusion. I didn't read any of the ones she wrote way later. Someone I knew who read them said they were okay but more filler/fanfiction tier because she loved the setting.

>>18684040
I'm sure she was a libtard, but the non-european inspired setting is legitimately refreshing

>>18695292
Old Man's War is fun

>>18694191

literally who, glowfren?

>>18696194
> While it does not possess the same quality of writing as Blindsight
Quality as in autistic prose?

Guys whats that fantasy series that is still unfinished and fans have been waiting longer than ASOIF for the final book, with promises from the author that its almost done?

>>18696721

ASOIF is a finished work whether you like it or not

>>18691413
Pseud
>1960–1962: early 1960s
>1963–1966: mid-1960s
>1967–1969: late-1960s

>>18696721
many such cases

who are the best fantasy antagonists?

*doesn't write anything* heh....nothin personnel kid

>>18696721
stars in my pocket like grains of sand. except delany says he'll never write the sequel

Brainlet here. I used to read a lot as a kid but my interest swayed to movies, games and anime for quite a number of years. I need something simple and fun for my brain to get back in the groove. I prefer Sci-fi to fantasy but anything that's comfort food is good. Any short and sweet recs for my brain to get used to reading again?

>>18696915
>>18692294
The ones who turn out to be qt wiffles.

>>18696067
but then I'd be watching the walking dead...

>>18697146
Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser are short and fun stories to read.

fuck you /sffg/ you are so arrogant and stupid

>>18688922
The Sons of Fëanor could not outrun their doom.
Even F's grandson Celebrimbor would perish from the curse.

Annatar harvested what his Master sowed.

>>18697146
Not short and sweet since it's a novel series, but
Undying Mercenaries sounds exactly like what you're looking for.

>>18696934
You forgot:
>blames his inability to write anything new on Drumpf

>>18695523
The Jerusalem Man trilogy

>>18697449
>>18696934
*is le epic bi/pansexual twitterer*
*gets all the juicy they/themme crussy*
*will never finish his/their books*
heh... nothin personnel folx

>>18680245
The Minority Report by Dick

Never read the book but the Spielberg movie was a comfy popcorn flick

>>18697146
I, Robot is a short story anthology, but it's hard sci fi, I'm not sure if you're expecting the fun kind of sci fi

>mfw Locus 2021 World Fantasy Awards Finalists
https://locusmag.com/2021/07/2021-world-fantasy-awards-finalists/

I'll let you guess the nominees. It's all so tiresome.

>>18695292
>what's it about
Summary does it justice, but it's basically about these timeless Guardships that maintain Canon space. Real plot is about someone looking to destroy them to change the status quo of power.

>>18698199
>Having any faith whatsoever
Just buy self-publish books.

>>18698199
At least Clarke is good.

The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, yes or no? Give reasons for your awnser.

>>18698355
I picked it up because SJWs were crying about it. The rape scene was boring, he only did it because he thought it was a dream and then he spent so much time moping about it.
I dropped it because MC was too reactive, it's always so fucking boring.

>>18698371
That does sound boring, protagonists should pursue active goals.

>>18696639
Christian/Miles Cameron. Hawkwoods sword and Artifact space. Very strange as both came out within a week of each other at the end of june & early july and neither are out on mobilism.

What's a good book with an supremely active protagonist
none of this avoiding trouble, or getting dragged into grand conspiracy bullshit

100% action

>>18698605
Dragon Ball

>>18698614
really?
I mean, pretty sure the fights just come to him, so he's pretty passive as far as I can remember

Are Dungeons & Dragons books any good?

>>18698629
No. If you want some decent schlock try pic related.

>>18698632
not that anon
but what's the relation between warhammer and 40k?
is it the same universe?

>>18698621
>goes out to find the Dragon Balls because he wants to see a dragon
>goes to learn martial arts because he wants to
Everything Goku does in the original Dragon Ball comes from what he wants to do. DBZ makes him just react to the villain of the week.

>>18698637
Warhammer is fantasy. Warhammer 40k is space opera. Same concepts, different settings.
ORKS ORKS ORKS

>>18698637
Not really the same universe, but Warhammer is fantasy while 40k takes similar ideas and puts them in space.
They're not all that similar tonally though, 40k cranks the grimderp up to 25 while regular Warhammer keeps it on the 1 to 10 scale.

>>18698621
Totally inaccurate.

>>18698199
so it's true. you really can't be a white man and win any literary awards these days.

Any sff with female protagonists?

>>18698680
You could always google search it up

>>18698680
You could always use Google to help you search it.

>>18698695
Ableist Chud.

>>18698700
Shit bait.

>>18698700
Are you that fucking lazy?

>>18698730
>lazy
Fucking privileged shitlord. Not everyone has energy. Some of us have avolition

>>18698743
I hope you're at the very least having fun
because I'm pretty sure your time is worth more than whatever it is you think you're doing

>>18698743
If you have no energy then why are you reading?

>>18698743
God, your baits are awful.

>>18698743
So, do you just try to shit up the thread.

>>18698621
Did you just read Z? Goku is way active in Dragon Ball.

>>18698629
Yeah, they're fun to read.

>>18698750
>fun
Fun? During a time of climate catastrophe and the wholesale deprivation of our forests and oceans in an unprecedented volume?
>>18698751
>why read
To check my privilege. I mainly read women authors or ones with female protagonists, despite being a male-gendered pasty Mayomanaisse. I especially like cli fi like Flight Behaviour for exposing the privileged binaries of Eurocentric, patriarchal systemisation.
>>18698755
If you’re silent during a just riot, you are committing violence. That’s why I protest.
>>18698764
Is that a question? Usually they’re ended with a question mark, but I know that some folx find it hard to use dead white male-centric “rules”, so sorry if you’re dysl*xic.

>>18698785
Awful bait, try harder next time.

>>18684442
Good stuff

>>18698785
So, how long until you stop shitting up the thread.

>>18698785
Go touch some grass.

>>18698788
>>18698794
Sorry that your precious dead white male authors aren’t being put on a PEDESTAL anymore, chuds.

>>18680151
Any good ones?

>>18698807
You're not even trying anymore.

>>18698814
He never does. Don’t know why he’s wasting his time.

>>18698814
I’m taking a break because this capitalist Mayo this water is spicy society is so exhausting.

>>18698822
Perhaps it's amusing in an ironic way

>>18698829
It would be amusing if he put some effort into it. Rather than whatever he's posting now.

>>18698841
I don't mind honestly
it takes more effort for him to write those than it is for me to ignore it

>>18698847
It’s exhausting protesting this world filled with Voldemorts and Darth Vaders, but like Luke, I’ll train and soldier on.

>>18698847
I just don't see any humor in any of this.

How is chud supposed to be offensive?

>>18698871
I don't care what people do to humor themselves, and I don't bother trying to understand it, especially if it takes no effort on my part to ignore it.

>>18698874
This is what they're referring to right? I don't get it.

>>18698874
>A chudd is a derogatory word for a seemingly mentally handicapped individual

>>18698887
so basically just retard

>>18698887
But isn't that ableist?
Won't that offend the tankies and other leftoids?

>>18698887
You're incorrect, it's an 80s horror movie. >>18698885

>>18698893
You think they give a shit?

>>18698899
They give a shot when somebody says retard, or any other "slur"

>>18698893
>>18698906
Concepts like 'ableism' aren't principles, but weapons progressives use against their enemies.

>>18698906
And you believe them?

https://youtu.be/PHCEg9XWl2M
I’m gushing. She’s so stunning and brave for putting out this into the world. <3 <3 <3 yaaaaassss

>>18698938
Yes, we get it, you're seething. Support self-publishing authors.

>>18698938
Why are you trying to shit up the thread with this?

>>18698944
>Support self-publishing authors.
This on MY LIST, yassss SLAY qurl

>>18698972
what book did she write, always happy seeing people succeed

>>18698972
How about the official list of /sffg/ self-published books instead of being pathetic?

>>18698972
>Someone actually made it.
Props to her. Don't know why you're seething about it.

>>18698975
>When Wendy Everly was six, her mother was convinced she was a monster and tried to kill her. Eleven years later, Wendy discovers her mother was almost right. She's not the person she's always believed herself to be, and her whole life begins to unravel - all because of Finn Holmes. Finn is a darkly handsome newcomer and every encounter with him leaves her deeply shaken ... though it has more to do with her fierce attraction to him than she'd ever admit.

>He's also here to tell her the shocking truth: Wendy is a changeling who was switched at birth - and he's come to take her home. Now Wendy's about to journey to a magical world she never knew existed, one that's both beautiful and frightening. And she must leave her old life behind to discover who she's meant to become...

>>18698982
The Trylle trilogy. Pretty alright. Average series worth reading to past the afternoon.

>>18698975
> AMANDA HOCKING is the author of over twenty-five novels, including the New York Times bestselling Trylle Trilogy and Kanin Chronicles. Her love of pop culture and all things paranormal influence her writing. She spends her time in Minnesota, taking care of her menagerie of pets and working on her next book.


>>18698979
Okay, character off now. Dude no one cares about charts, you’re just shilling this because you have a self published book coming. It’s pathetic.

>>18698991
>AMANDA HOCKING
Living the /lit/ life. No wonder /lit/ seethes.

>>18698972
Touch some grass.

>>18698998
I walked the dog today for 30 minutes, but we’re lockdown so can’t do much else. Gonna read some Robert Kino Howard for some pleasure reading as I lay on my divan.

>>18699004
>divan
Say sofa you pseud.

>>18699012
It’s a sofa that turns into a bed, so divan is a better word for it.

>>18699027
Sofa bed. Just say Sofa Bed.

>>18699030
that's two words, why do that when I can just say divan, we're not some public school pandering to the lowest of the lows here.

>>18699038
Christ, you pseuds are insufferable.

>>18699038
Who are you trying to impress here, Get out with that shit.

>>18699043
>>18699045
it's an extremely common word
I'm actually shocked that using it would have me branded as a pseud
I don't want to know to interact with you lots anymore.

>>18699060
Settee is the common word not divan.

New thread
>>18699069

>>18681825
Only as a minor character. His daugther figures heavily.

>chink fiction

No, thanks.

>>18698972
> changed publishing forever
But webnovels exist more than 10 years already.