/lit/ - Literature

>>18635417
First for the Aspect-Emperor.

>2021
I am forgotten…

On Book Two of BakkerQuest, does the story ever move on from whores crying about their feelings? The first book had 10+ intersecting storylines, this one is literally Whores Cry Around the Campfire while Kellhus mindrapes them. The oases of exposition about the Dunyain and Nonmen is barely worth slogging through the rest.

Does it get better?

I'm going to make the next general and just call it /gfg/ formerly /sffg/

>>18635442
Gay fag General because you’re a gay fag lol

>>18635435
>Does it get better?
Such impatience, mortal...

>>18635435
>book 2 of trilogy 1
I just finished book 5 and I almost dropped the series with book 2, that one did suck lol. It gets good again just suffer a little longer.

>>18635467
>>18635467
>he made it through the slog of book 5
commence the epic fucking kino of the final run

This is the kinda shit your books look like to me, an Italian in a PhD program, researching fantastical fiction.

>>18635478
>This is the kinda shit your books look like to me, an Italian in a PhD program, researching fantastical fiction.
You're in a European PhD program and you're actually researching fantastical fiction instead of something of real literary-historical merit? Get outta here with this gabagool

I’ve been going through Tolkien’s Unfinished Tales and it’s really great stuff. Perfect before bed reading.

>>18635483
>real literary-historical merit
Then, what is this, pray tell?

Earwa is set in paleolithic Europe

>>18635517
undergraduate tier...

>>18635521
Yes, we get it, Bakker’s a fucking hack. It comes to no surprised. Can we talk about any other fantasy series or even sci-fi series? Or better yet, how about we update the self-publishing author chart?

>>18635523
So Borges, Homer, Dante, Spenser, Virgil, and Ovid are all bad literature because you can't get over your literary realism and muhmesis.

>>18635531
>Hack
Uhhh no, that means he's based. It also gives us some clue of where the story was supposed to go if he can't find a publisher. Self published litrpgs chinkshit is not fit for human consumption

>>18635532
>reading comprehension
I was merely mocking you for electing undergraduate-tier subject matter and secondary sources for your dissertation, then coming into this otherwise fun shitposting general to boast about your supposed literary-iintellectual superiority.
>the absolute state of the Italian academy

>>18635547
What you fag? English, she is no my first language, si? What have you done in your life? You need to be quiet when men speak, capiche?

What's a place I can visit where they'll just feed me endlessly with options of what books to check out and read

>>18635478
This nigga taking post-graduate classes on how to read harder

>>18635557
The library, and step on it.

>>18635563
>classes
No, she is no coursework. My mother, she say: "Giuseppe, you must become a doctor. Help your mother pay the bills when she old, eh?" And so I become on track to become the doctor, capiche?

>>18635556
>>18635570

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQeIYVM3YBM
What's some dragonborn tier fantasy epics?

>>18635442
All in favor of /genre fiction general/ say yea

>>18635582
I'm sour that my horror fiction general never got traction.
>>18635442
Aye, I can do that.
t. Italian PhD fantastical fiction western literature enthusiast

>>18635582
Nay, nay, a thousand times nay

>>18635582
yea
/lit/ is slow enough that a big gen is readable

>>18635582
Stop trying to force this shit already.

>>18635609
I've made the first move
soon all shall follow, you cannot fight the revolution

>>18635582
Yea.

>>18635582
No. Didn't you fags learn whatever that other failed general.

>>18635641
But this general is alive enough, adding in other genres could only do us good, give us more topics of discussion

>>18635582
Go make one then you dumb nigger

>>18635652
no
I'm going to topically enrich this general

>>18635654
We don't want it, now fuck off.

>>18635657
I'm afraid you have no power here

>>18635582
>literal months of discord anime trannies trying to fuck up /sffg/
>now this shit
what's wrong with you people lol

>>18635659
No seriously, he’s right. Fuck off.

>>18635663
I'm sorry, anon
I'm afraid that this decision has been set in stone
It is happening

>>18635670
Fuck off, nobody wants this shit.

>>18635670
Make your tranny breakoff general, we do not give a flying fuck. In fact, I encourage you to do so, in order to purge your faggotry from this sacred (if tarnished) thread.

You can't stop /sffg/ and you can't stop Bakkerposting and Tolkienposting.

Should I read BoTNS?
'Pleb' here. I have no great love of literature or even genre fiction, and almost exclusively read non-fiction with the exception of a few fantasy works (Mostly just Tolkien, Conan and ASOIAF) which I force my way through their prose and lenght in spite of my lack of pleasure doing so because I find the stories, characters, worldbuilding, themes and ideas to be entertaining and compelling once I finally dissect and digest them in their entirety. It gives me a sense of wonder that I don't find anywhere else but on these particular books. Although, I still would prefer if they were all just raw scripts and screenplays instead of novels

The premise, aesthetics and world of BoTNS are VERY interesting to me, but I don't want to frustrate myself in an effort that in the end might just be a massive waste of time in my part. So, should I still give it a shot?

>>18635681
>>18635682
I'm afraid it isn't up to you anymore

>>18635670
No one will post in your faggy thread. Someone will just make another sffg and we'll keep having fun without you

>>18635695
by the time you realize what I've done, it'll already have been too late.

>>18635695
this

>>18635687
No, you shouldn't.
Now fuck off.

>>18635697
No one will realize what you've done because nothing you do will change anything

>>18635697
>>18635689
>>18635670
>>18635659
>>18635654
>>18635645
>>18635612
>>18635582
Tranny samefag. Kill yourself you annoying turd.

>>18635701
Jeez, ok dude

Any SFF with Akkadian or Sumerian influences?

Monthly reminder to read Zelazny

>>18636110
what's that

Why is it so based

>>18636111
The greatest sff author of all time, god rest his soul

Did Kellhus really fuck up so badly in TUC or was it some 9001 IQ dunyain 8d chess move?

I just finished Joe Abercrombie's The First Law books and felt they somewhat fell flat. While it dragged on in the beginning it turned into fast-paced slugfest by the end. It probably isn't an unpopular opinion that I pretty much stayed for Glokta through it

>>18635417
Discover Science Fiction and Fantasy Week at Goodreads!
https://www.goodreads.com/blog/show/2131

>>18636329
anything interesting?

>>18636337
I think it's interesting to see what's popular or otherwise has mainstream appeal, though that doesn't mean I want to read them or have any particular interest in them specifically.

patrick gnomefuss

>>18636350
https://youtu.be/z8lNk33snQE

Wtf George RR Martin has a doctorate…

>>18636527
legitimate?

>>18636427
Hack

>>18636578
Wack

>>18635417
Recommendations for fantasy where lots of females are raped and degraded?

>>18636528
https://news.wttw.com/2021/06/16/george-rr-martin-talks-northwestern-writing-and-game-thrones

https://youtu.be/QRbKkKtjeYo

>>18636583
No, I don’t want to add fuel to your sick fetish.

Both of Christian/Miles Camerons recent releases arent on mobilism yet. Doing my nut in.

>>18636528
https://youtu.be/4yvRyMrMXKo

>>18636583
Bakker

>>18636585
>>18636602

>>18636602
so honorary

Besides Bakker, what are some other authors who do frequent bad endings?
Mark Lawrence?

>>18636329
glad that blacktongue thief seems to be one of the more popular 2021 releases, it's really good
>>18636598
They might have the dates wrong, like 3 different new books I wanted to read in the past few months were all listed as coming out months before the actual release date

>>18636620
>blacktongue thief
give me a brief description of it?
I'm always interested in reading more books

>>18636252
I agree.

>>18636614
What did you expect? Though I'll admit it would've been tremendously funny if it was revealed that George spent the last ten years pursuing a legitimate doctorate. He did have the time for it after all, not like there is anything else occupying him.

>>18635435
Book two is the best of the entire series, how the fuck do you get filtered that hard.

>>18636624
Fantasy setting, Humanity is devastated after a war with the goblins where they basically just ended up with a truce. It's not grimdark but they genuinely feel forlorn and on their way out.
Main character is a thief who runs into a noble warrior type and gets roped into her quest to go on a journey to a town that's recently been overrun by giants and do something there. Although he's a thief it's not one of those heist fantasy books, it's just straight up epic fantasy.

Highlight is the worldbuilding stuff, manages to feel like a pretty unique setting whilst using creatures, world and magic setups that have all been used before.
Beyond that I'm just enjoying reading a book where the protagonist actually goes on an epic adventure instead of yet another book about revolution and/or court intrigue.

>>18636656
Sounds interesting, will definitely check it out.

>>18636252
I prefered the 2nd book to the other two. Ferro is such a pointless character

>>18636620
>They might have the dates wrong, like 3 different new books I wanted to read in the past few months were all listed as coming out months before the actual release date
Unfortunately they are out it just sharers being a bit slow.

>>18636670
>sharers being a bit slow.
This is what entitlement looks like.

>>18636670
I haven't looked today but I'm still waiting for one that's been requested to be filled, taking longer because the ebook costs like £13 lol
>>18636666
Her and the guy who beats his sister felt like they both only existed for the "subversion" in the final book where they just undo all of their character development

>>18636675
Shut up zoomer.

>>18635531
...I know they don't have a lot of money for commissions and there aren't a lot of legit talented artists left, but... the utter fucking state of cover art...

>>18636699
A few of those look pretty nice though. Orconomics is quite the eye-catcher.

>>18636699
I feel like the problem isn't the actual art, but the composition

Is this any good?

>>18636735
anon...
why won't you just read it?

Any books with orc and goblin societies? Preferably something like Shadow of Mordor

Any science fiction or fantasy books where the protagonist must face an invincible enemy?

>>18636716
You're kinda right. Look at the Baen covers, their artists are usually solid but the way things are positioned always looks awkward or dull. Not helped by obnoxiously obstructive titles and other cover detailing.

>>18636754
Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion. The Shrike is invincible.

>>18636756
this isn't solid art lol, it's a blatant tracejob on the woman

>>18636754
The Dark Forest

>>18636690
i love brendan fraser

>>18636756
>Look at the Baen covers

Oh my fucking god I can't breath

>>18636789
lmaoing at ubertitty at the back

>>18636710
orconomics is downright snazzy

Okay maybe Baen isn't the best choice for examples, but just add it as fuel to my comment at >>18636699 then

>>18636710
>>18636802
Unfortunately its misleading.

Any good recommendations for stories that explore gender segregated societies/matriarchies. I've read most of the big ones. (Herland, Gate to Women's Country, Ammonite, etc.) I find the concept interesting but haven't found a story that goes beyond just advocating for political lesbianism and eventual male genocide/eugenics or boring moralizing about how oppression is bad whether men or women are doing it.

>>18635582
no please god no why???

Also, does Borges fall under fantasy? Can we talk about his stories here?

I think i'm going to read it.

>>18635582
Now this is trolling. Nothing can came of it and yet it will provoke many reactions. Its entirely symbolic but will cause much more concern than practical matters. How very modern.

>>18635478
what kind of miserable degree did you get a PhD in that has led you to here?

>>18636822
roshar is gender segregated

>>18635417
Seven Surrenders, Terra Ignota #2 - Ada Palmer (2017)

After having read this I can affirm with all due certainty that the first book is only half of this particular narrative. Anyone who doesn't intend to read the second book probably shouldn't read the first. Whatever you thought of the first book, you'll most likely think the same of this one, though having become more accustomed to its style removed some of the rough edges for me.
As with the first book this is one of the more uneven novels I've ever read with regards to personal enjoyment. For every excitement there was a balancing disappointment. There were hilarious scenes that thoroughly amused me and overly melodramatic scenes that exasperated. In theory this could've been a top series for me, but as it is, it's relegated to being a intriguing emotional experience.
One of the more unclear aspects of these books is whether any of the characters are intended to be cheered on by the reader or if this is meant to be read as a neutral and detached history, in so far as any work of history can be anyway. My reading was more towards the latter, which limits emotional involvement and may severely limit enjoyment for many. This detachment may have been for the better for me, as I don't support the goals of any of the characters.
I want to read about more characters like this in fiction, as I certainly haven't read many of them, outside of a certain context. Major character spoiler: They lifted my penis gingerly and reached past to feel the vaginal folds behind. The specific details of this aren't provided, though that's fine. I appreciated their inclusion all the same.
Possibly as the result of the controversies regarding the first book Palmer is more explicit with her beliefs, as indicated by reader responses, which may be for the better or worse depending on the preferences of the reader. This results in statements such as "The more people insist that feminism has won, the more they blind themselves to its remaining foes." Gender concerns are very much important to her and that shows itself quite clearly in the text. She's very much opposed its elimination as indicated by her responses to readers and statements such as "Suddenly neutered dress and speech were mandatory to proclaim one's allegiance to the 'good guys'" and "So the Great 'They' Silence fell". In this way, it's similar to "I don't see race", though for gender.
There was a scene that would've assured it four stars if it had ended differently, but considering how it went, it became a cause for concern instead. Despite these concerns, I'll be reading the two remaining books. With time, I may appreciate this peculiar concoction more.

Rating: 3/5

>>18636864
Here’s a head’s up: I was making fun of the Italian guy who kept trying to do the anime vs western sff war a few months ago.

>>18635417
Fuck e william Brown
Fuck delays
Fuck pay pigs
Fuck pay walls

>>18637046
what exactly is the nature of the autism that forces you to post this same drivel in every single thread?

have a (You); it will be your first.

>>18637058

>>18637101
it's literally a screengrab from >>18636329

>>18636616
Help!

>>18637058
>not a single fantasy book
i thought the screengrab might just be incomplete but i checked the website and no it literally has no actual fantasy in it, astounding

Bout to drink some carlin, blast some moh’a’ead, and read this

>>18637058
Kim Stanley Robinson is grea though desu.

just finished this yesterday. pretty disappointing. ive really been itching for some native american sf but the writing in this was very middling, had a couple of good characters but at the same time it felt like i was just reading a YA book with some cusses thrown in. also coulda been half the length. also: towards the end a character said "seven hells" as an exclamatory phrase and like...idk if it was supposed to be a wink towards song of ice and fire?? but i wasnt impressed. i was really hoping for more of a story with native american philosophical underpinnings like animate geographical features and animal populations and gift economy stuff i guess. this was more like an aesthetically central american grrm novella. ah well. i may still check out the sequel when it comes out.

>>18637026
>I was pretending to be retarded

>>18637170
Roanhorse's other series is more native focused, its like postapoc fantasy set on reservations

>>18637142
Name the stuff there you've actually read
So bored of people claiming everything is bad to get out of having to actually read anything before posting

>>18637290
Unlike you, I value my time

>>18637297
you clearly don't

>>18636590

>>18636252
I'm about halfway through the first book, and it feels like a slog.

>>18636735
If you liked the martian, you'll like this.

Are there any books about a group of astronauts or just really any futuristic space crew discovering space ruins like abandoned stations, empty colonies and giant derelict ships?

>>18637170
>ive really been itching for some native american sf
fuck off with that. any books that makes being a dirty minority a central point of the story should be tossed into the trash.

>>18637343
you are a dirty minority

>>18637338
the expanse.

>>18637354
actually part of the reason why I asked, I've already finished that

>>18637359
try rendevous with rama

>>18637362
I've also already read that one too

>>18637369
fuck, man, post what you already read then.

>>18637378
sorry about that, as far as I can recall, just those two regarding this subgenre, I just didn't expect you to list both of them consecutively :p

>>18637058
The books I've read from this are mostly fine to good (I read the maas as a joke to post about here and it was too bad to carry on with for the gag lol) but there's almost always better books deeper within the sections than the ones goodreads chooses to highlight

Anyone read any good dystopian scifi written from the perspective of the near future?

Like The Circle but not shit

>>18635687
Next time instead of writing a paragraph just say you have autism. Anyway if you're in it solely for dissecting the novel like a middle school book report then I think you'll ultimately enjoy it as much (or as little) as the other works you mentioned

>>18637162
Based. I loved Shaman

Incest, every book could use a little bit more incest, be it undertones or straight up depictions of it
part of the reason why asoiaf popped off as a series.

>you will never experience the glory of valor, nor the high heroism of the ñoldor in the epic wars of the first age

>>18637479

>>18636227

Kellhus genuinely didn't know his son was the no god, so yes. But this won't be the last we see of him, if TNG ever sees the light.

>>18632140
i finished this and it's not so bad as my first impression. once the siege gets going it gets entertaining and easy to read. it's nothing memorable, and it's very annoying how modern and stupid it is most of the time but you know, it's fine. and i like reading books that i don't take seriously from time to time, you can read almost diagonally some parts and you get it over with quickly

>>18637670
>dead but not done
what did Scott mean by this?

What's that series where super powerful mages killed the gods and rule their respective cities with iron fists? The world is dying and vast tracks of land are poisoned by the bodies of the gods. I think the first chapter has an entire city being destroyed by a tsunami caused by a rival city's mage-king

>>18637860
>tracks
tracts

>>18637899
Thanks Grammarly I always forget that one

>>18637860
Sounds very Dark Sun, so look up what inspired that I guess?

>>18637860
>>18637932
I found it after a little digging, The Grim Company by Luke Scull. Don't think I ever read much of it I just remember the world sounding very interesting

can someone recommend a book similar to legends of chima? :>

Thoughts on schismatrix/the shaper/mechanist universe?

I read that it's to Neuromancer what Gormenghast is to LotR, can anyone expand on that analogy? Not familiar with Gormenghast. I did read Neuromancer and enjoyed it quite a bit, I'm almost finished with Count Zero and have Mona Lisa Overdrive because I liked it enough to check out the trilogy(plus they were all cheap, I bought Neuromancer in a thrift shop for a couple bucks)

I have schismatrix plus, is there a particular order which works best storywise? Would reading the short stories spoil anything?

Was there ever a time where humanoid animals were a neat/good thing in scifi/fantasy, or was it always typical furry shit just decades before and with better artwork?

>>18638144
I haven't read Schismatrix but I hate Bruce Sterling because he has a cuck fetish he's inserted into everything I've read by him so far.
You might want to give Gibson a rest after finishing the Neuromancer trilogy, those books and especially Neuromancer itself were all flukes.

Even better than Throne of Glass.

I might be late to the party on this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/06/26/j-r-r-tolkien-annual-seminar-goes-woke-with-diversity-focus/amp/

Middle Earth is going woke. They are going to ruin the Amazon Series. Why don't they just rewrite the books and make orcs the good guys.

>>18638340
Did anyone here end up attending the seminar to report how it went? Anyway, just ignore it. They can never taint Tolkien's original work with their fan fiction. It's still here, the same as on the day it was first published.

>>18638340
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/06/30/tolkien-society-goes-woke-finds-transgenderism-antiracism-and-queer-ness-in-the-lord-of-the-rings-n1458674

Here's a better article on it.

>The society asked for papers about “diversity,” and the presenters did not disappoint.

The Tolkien Society isn't even trying to stay true to his work. It isn't like this is some random sjws writing papers. They asked for this.

>>18638376
is this good

>>18638384
idk

>>18638360
I was going to, but I ended up going camping for a couple weeks while the seminar took place. Just now getting back and seeing this news.

Why try and force their politics onto this? Why not just leave it alone? There are plenty of other Fantasy/ Sci Fi series that would be better suited for this "woke" treatment. They have to know that the Amazon Series will fail horribly if they fill it with trans Gandalf, respectable Orcs, gay Sam and Frodo.

>>18638021
Oh that's the book that's incredibly over the top in trying to be grimdark
I dropped it because it seemed to be going for a new pov every single chapter which wasn't for me

>>18638414
The ideology is totalitarian. Subversion of all that which does not yet comply to it is the whole point. There is to be left no stone of the opposition standing.

>>18638440
When you out it that way, it makes perfect sense what they are doing.

How is Spellmonger like?

>>18638183
Really? I only read Involution Ocean but I liked it alot, haven't noticed any cuckery in there

I enjoyed Neuromancer, Count Zero is ok(haven't finished it but I'm close to the end) but desu Marly's storyline is boring and lame. I liked Snow Crash but I try to stick with older/more "classic" cyberpunk-I know that too much of the fandom gets it wrong(haha machine body go brrr) and praises the high tech as opposed to the ramifications and loss of humanity and related themes, not to mention cutting out the low life part of "high tech low life"

I feel like I don't have anything to gauge modern sci fi given the awards and communities love to heap praise on "diverse" writers and literary tokens instead of focusing on quality. Luckily there's plenty of classic work out there to read that's praised for being quality and covers topics that have broad appeal and aren't dated by the time they hit print

>>18636252
After finishing the whole series it feels like the author read The Prince and decided to make the first of the magi Machiavelli's self-insert.

>>18638340
>>18638372
all people have to do is say no. Tell these people to fuck off. They have no response to it. Especially if you don't use twatter. Yet this is seemingly too hard for people to do

I know there's alot of nepotism within many entertainment industries, but why has it gotten this bad? America used to be on top of the world when it came to cultural influence and media, but as of late it's becoming a laughingstock. Both US and UK media are completely subservient to these people, and I don't get why they let it continue despite countless examples of media they've tanked

Manga is outdoing western comics by leaps and bounds, and anime is faring better than western cartoons because the Japanese just want to make enjoyable products. How many more franchises do we need to go broke before this woke shit stops? Or are they just gonna burn it all down?

>>18635417
I'm working on a setting where everything has a corresponding spirit, a bit like a combination of Plato and Shinto, with a hierarchy where each spirit is aligned with at least one of several spirits at the top of the hierarchy, who are essentially the gods of the setting. The thing is, I'm stuck on what aspects of existence should get a spirit at the very top of things, and I don't want to have too many to keep things from getting too complicated. I'm thinking that there'd be at least one that came into being relatively recently, corresponding to mortal thought and emotions as they grew to prominence and new spirits corresponding to them sparked into existence, but besides more abstract things like time, space, gravity, and so on, do you have any ideas on how I can divide things please? For clarity, think of the hierarchy of being more like the relationship between cells and organs within the "body" of existence. Basically, the spirit of say, a leaf on a tree, will be so low down the totem pole in terms of intelligence (so much so that it's dubious that it 'can' think any more than the leaf itself could) and power that any kind of attempt at communication or using it in magic is an epic waste of time and energy. But all the leaves, while separate, are still part of the tree, whose own spirit will have more power and intellect, though most would still not be sapient. Similarly, the tree is a individual living thing, but still part of the forest as a whole, and the spirit of the forest will thus have more power than every tree combined, since it's also composed of the animals, fungi, etc. Similarly, the spirit of a single stone would be below the spirit of a mountain that it rests upon, which is dwarfed by the spirit of the mountain 'chain', and which in turn is only a part of the spirit of the 'continent', and so on. Make sense?

>>18638582
idk bro sounds like sanderson

>>18637678
Means Kellhus is chilling in one of the decapitents

Where you I start with Warhammer 40k?

A couple questions for /sffg/

How do you guys prefer to read books: digitally, or with physical copies?

If you prefer to read physical books, do you buy them used? Or do you like to buy them brand new?

If you prefer to read digitally: Where do you get your books (buy them from Amazon, pirate them, etc)?; What do you read them on (e-reader, smartphone, laptop or desktop computer, etc)?; and What kind of formats (PDF, .rtf, epub, etc) do you like/prefer? Do you often find a lot of errors in the files (garbled text, weird formatting, spelling errors, etc)?

>>18638766
I pirate epubs and put them on an e-reader. It's extremely convenient.

>>18638799
this and it's free too.

>>18638799
have you ever had the problem where the epub you had downloaded contained any errors? Does this happen a lot?

>>18638845
yes, you have to downlaod multiple verisosn until you find one that is good.

I finished Dogs of War, and I liked it. It was kind of like an 80s movie. It had a bunch of old movie tropes. But you know what? It worked. It kind of unraveled near the end. When the villain "dies" wrapping up the plot, and then the book goes through a series of tiny vignettes that really do little more than world building. Along with a little too on the nose explanation of sci-fi themes.

You know it's a good book when it can make you sympathetic toward a swarm of bees. I'd waifu Bees if I could.

The audio reading was AMAZING. They got the perfect guy to play Rex. He fully committed to that character and it payed all incredibly. The girl they got for some of the chapters was just ok. She's good at her one voice, but doesn't have any range, so her male voices sound really flat.

I already started the Sequel, and there are more old movie tropes in this one too. The author is definitely a boomer, because his character's reference "cable television" and "bad news bears". Like, the time this takes place has to be in the near future. About 30-40 years? Maybe more, since I think the first book took place in the near future as well. So the main character is born into the world where cable TV isn't so relevant anymore, assuming that it's still around 40 years from now. I don't think he would have reached for that reference. But cable TV is still relevant to boomers.

>>18638766
Aurally

>>18638845
Not in any I've read. In general the quality is lower than if it were professionally typeset, with things like
really-long-compound-words shoving
everything down onto the next line and chapters starting in the middle of the page, plus lots of typesetting widows and orphans (look them up if you actually care), but I haven't encountered anything unreadable. I use Calibre to covert and upload.

>>18637338
You want to explore the genre known as Big Dumb Object fiction.

Chindi is a gooder.

>>18638739
There used to be a huge WH40K novel guide with all the titles but I haven't seen it 'round in ages.

>>18638766
I use an e-reader and pirated ebooks from irc for most of my reading. I do also like physical books but its usually for things I know I'm going to like/already read or classics/essentials. I prefer my physical copies to be new because used books are so often in such poor shape but I'm not against buying a well preserved used book

>>18638766
most recent releases i get from the library. anything older than like 20 years old i usually pirate an epub and put on my ereader. i like to convert them to kepub on calibre since i use a kobo. there are sometimes errors but it's usually not hard to find a version with perfect text. i do also buy books, usually if it's by an author i already know i like or a nice edition or something. used or new.

Bros…

>>18638739
Eisenhorn Omnibus is very fun, it generally declines in quality as it goes with the third book being meh, but is worth picking up if you want fast paced 40k shenanigans.

>>18639329
At least unlike Martin he's still young enough that he might experience a change of heart or find himself in sudden need of money. If anyone even still cares at that point. But it has occassionally happened.

Union Station books by E M Foner. A secular heaven/purgatory with likable characters and low violence plots. Great to read before bedtime.

>>18639022
What happened to Ciaphas Cain? Publisher seems to have lost interest. Something similar to happened with Harry Harrison and The Stainless Steel Rat.

Just finished the Foundation trilogy, are the sequels worth reading?

>>18636110
Looks neat anon. Thanks for the recommendation.

Why are there no 40K novels featuring the best Militarum faction?

>>18640157
They're not as good, but I would read Foundation's Edge and Foundation and Earth just so the series has an ending. It's not really a trilogy if you just write 3 books then get bored and wander off.

>>18639329
I'm guessing a late 2022 or mid 2023 release date for Doors of Stone. No later than 2025. Who knows? I think he did get divorced and it is obvious he has mental issues. I do hate how he blamed it on American politics / Trump though, that's just lazy.

Any must reads by Ursula Le Guin or Michael Moorcock?

>>18635417
How does Campfire rate? Is it worth paying for it and/or the worldbuilding add-on for your writing and worldbuilding purposes? If no, what would you recommend instead?

>>18640205
Write it yourself

>>18638582
This sounds very gay.

>>18636822
Last of the Amazons by Steven Pressfield

>>18636822
Wheel of Time desu

>>18640383
*Also there is no femishit politicizing or SJW moralizing; Pressfield just wanted to write a story about the legend of the Amazons (and other mythological Greek figures) in a historical context. What's really nice is that, ultimately, there are no villains in this story despite all the violence; you end up caring for all the characters by the end.

>>18640327
reposting this for Moorcock

>>18636843
Make sure to post if it's good. I hated Fall of Hyperion so I didn't continue (Too hokey and over the top)

>>18637677
first kj parker book? he's one of my favourite writers but sounds like he's not your cup of tea.

>>18638021
i've read that book and literally don't remember any of that
it was very forgettable and derivative of abercrombie

>>18638766
physical
don't care if new or used

>>18640327
Ursula? Nothing at all.
Moorcock? Elric (in published/written order) and Corum.

Just ordered the Silmarillion, the Unfinished Tales, and the Phoenix Guards. I cannot wait to read them.

>>18640804
Extremely based.
You will have to tell us your favorite of the Noldor.
For me it's a toss-up between Fingolfin, Turgon and Ecthelion.

Books with little girls?

>>18640816
Noldor? What is this, Prophecy of Pendor?

>>18640816
I’ll update anons itt once I actually make my way through the books. I think I will start with the Unfinished Tales

>>18640822
Kill yourself pedo scum.

>>18640838
but, anon, we're all little girls here

can anyone help me remember a book series?
It started with some red haired older guy in a tavern and he would do flashbacks to his past as a kid and was basically a gary stu character who always did everything perfect
I can't remember what it was

>>18640938
The Name of the Wind in case you're being serious

>>18640942
Ah, thanks! I was. I couldn't remember it.l
Thanks man

>>18640947
yw anon, a shame the author is taking a page out of George R. R. Martin's book and will never finish the series as it was kind of fun in a schlocky way

>>18640838
it's not real, retard

>>18640816
i was always a fingolfinchad myself

>>18640954
yeah I just realized that it still hasn't had more come out. I read it years ago and went "well I'll wait for the third book" and totally forgot about it until now. I guess there may never be a third one.
If I had to say, it was the most "anime-style western novel" I've ever encountered.
Guilty pleasure.

>>18640834
Unfinished Tales might be a little confusing without any context. I’d personally start with Silm imo.

>>18636643
unless the last quarter brings it around then no it is not kek, the first book was infinitely better
>abloo abloo kellhus makes me feel funny
shut up whore blow that guy up with the Gnosis some more

>>18635582
yea, I could fuck with that, gens getting kinda stale with the ritual posts anyway.

>>18640880
But, anon, you’re a balding, aging, unhealthy, unshaven man with a fat gut who smells foul and needs to shower. And needs therapy for his fucked up mental illness.

>>18641300
Sad that neo /r/edditors don't even understand classic 4chan culture

Name 1 better series.

>>18640938
To be fair Kvothe is good at alot of things, but no matter how intelligent he is, he fucks everything up. I wouldn't call him a Gary Stu because he can't seem to get anything right in the long run. I mean he's a weakling inn owner now that can't defend himself against a couple deserter soldiers. The story is about his fall from a pedestal, his Gary Stuish ways is just his climb to the top of the pedestal. What do y'all think ?

Although I will admit it is retarded how every girl melts in front of him. But sometimes I like to think the Kvothe telling the story is embellishing parts. It is something a real person would do.

Rothfuss will definitely finish the book in a few years, will it live up to the hype? Somehow I doubt it.

>>18641728
Also I think part of the reason he is taking so long is he is legit mentally ill, and I'm half convinced he got divorced.

Any napoleonic fantasy or do I have to write it?

>>18641735
He even says in streams he isn’t depressed clinically but has depressive aspects. He’s not the kind of person to hide a mental illness, when he’s open about it like here.

https://youtu.be/KQIEmWKTxSY

I’m legitimately on meds and it’s not the worst thing ever like people make out. Most anguish I feel comes from going on Twitter or Reddit unironically.

>>18641700
any other, tranny

for people who use goodreads
what's the minimum average rating for a book to be worth reading?

>>18641856
3 stars

>>18641856
Goodreads rating only tell something about how easy a read a book is. (Unless the rating is extremely low)
There's no correlation between rating and quality until it drops below 2.5.

Between 2.5 and 3 just tends to be either mismarketed or excessively confusing.

>>18636427
Minute 7:33
>In this day and age... Honestly probably in every day and age, if you make art and you are not trying to make the world a better place then what the fuck are you doing? You know, you'll be like "Oh, my purpose is merely to entertain" and I'm like "Cool". But either you try to represent healthy things in your art or push back against unhealthy things, or you don't care about ethics, in which case that's shitty, you know?
The absolute state of fiction
Btw, I gave up.on counting all the times he said 'toxic' and 'problematic'

>>18636427
>>18641930
Lmao, imagine trying to better the world with fantashit.

>>18641856
Read the 1 star reviews
If they're written by retards, it's a good book.

>>18641930
Shitty and toxic desu

>>18641944
Better than posting on 4chan

>>18642009
Nobody here is trying to make the world a better place, utter mongoloid

>>18642028
Except all the various acts of charity that has been carried out here. Are you this new?

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/kenny-glenn-case-dusty-the-cat

>>18640965
Based

>>18638581
>How many more franchises do we need to go broke before this woke shit stops? Or are they just gonna burn it all down?
Their goal is to destroy or pervert everything good in the world, so it won't stop.

>>18636427
For someone who likes to harp about how problematic and toxic and whatnot other people are, he seems blissfully unaware that Whedon has been disgraced as a sexist hypocrite unperson for years now. Because pic related is how he presents himself on the About section of his official homepage. Better brush up those Photoshop skills. He really should keep track of the cutting edge of the social justice faith to which he has committed himself, or he might find his own head next on the chopping block. Seeing how he is a straight white male, he's already treading on dangerous ground as is.

>>18642296
No one cares, dude. The social justice “witch hunts” barely exist irl. Get off the innernet.

>>18640974
Good to know thank you

>>18642073
When was the last time any group of people from 4chan tried to do anything charitable? Back during GG days maybe? This website is much more atomized than it once was

>>18642433
>groups
>4chan
anon, did you forget why you even come here?

>>18641856
>what's the minimum average rating for a book to be worth reading?
No such thing. Read the reviews to get some form of consensus because people give ratings for utterly idiotic reasons. Unrelated author opinions being one of them.

>>18642511
>Unrelated author opinions being one of them.
But that's related though.

>>18640731
yeah i can see how it can have an audience. i didn't his mind his writing directly but how modern it feels, disconnected from reality it is, it feels like the MC is a millenial transported back in time to a fantasy setting but he just forgot about it. or the translator, not the MC

i got very annoyed at the start because the opening paragraph has a completely different tone than the rest and i was confused as fuck

>>18640731
forgot to ask, anything else you recommend by him?

Uhh guys, why is Khellus raping Proias up the ass?

I am starting to get the feeling that he is the bad guy.

Should he have stayed in the House?

>>18642830
Will you stop shilling for this shit series already.

>>18642841
>Will you stop shilling the best modern fantasy series
No

>>18642841
It’s the same every thread. I don’t know why they keep forcing this shit.

>>18642852
support /gfg/
>>18635582

>>18642854
No, fuck off already.

>>18642854
No, fuck off.

>>18642854
sure, I don't mind
but I'm not making a thread

>>18635417
Can anyone recommend me some lesbian fantasy fiction. Wizards and warriors type stuff? Can be published or stuff online.

>>18642868
Google it.

Haha, this is even better than Throne of Glass.

>>18642885
Are you going to spam this in every thread now?

>>18642868

>>18642854
go for it but it won't survive long, not enough userbase in one board for 2 generals

>>18642918
it'd be this general with another name
it's not a substitute, it's a takeover

>>18642918
What is it with you faggots and your need to destroy/sffg/?

>>18642924
First it was a schizo trying to be reductive and creating /wsffg/ and now this? When will it end?

>>18642935
I remember that. That General was dead with the schizo literally bumping it to keep it alive.

>>18642988
At the very least, /sffg/ was actually usable and comfy during those trying times.

>>18642854
well anyway, I'm just going to attach /gfg/ to /sffg/ next time I make a thread
call it /sffg/ & /gfg/

>>18643010
Fuck off

>>18643010
No, literally fuck off already. We don’t want this.

>>18643010
I'd be good with it!

>>18643063
Stop samefagging.

>>18642854
"No!"

>>18641743
There’s plenty. Search for it.

>>18641625
Grow up.

>>18636816
How do?

>>18643134
it's not about an orc i guess

>>18643139
anon....

>>18635531
are any of those actually good?

>>18643160
Yeah, a few of them are.

>>18643160
I personally recommend Martha Wells.

>>18643160
I got super sales and it’s average.

>>18643160
I would go with The Alpha: Protect. Procreate. Prevail. by Eric Vall

It was a bit of a slow start, but it just keeps building, as we follow Jesse through his journey to become the ultimate alpha shifter.

This is one of the most plot driven of Eric Vall's stories I've read in a while, and I can see how much better he's getting at adding depth to his tales, giving more back stories and sub-plots to the side characters like Jesse's aunt and best friend. I just hope he keeps that habit with the other, smaller characters in the story. It adds feelings to the story as a whole, and makes the reader become more invested in the entire story and the characters within it.

I find myself really hyped to see what happens next in this new series, and how the MC interacts with his new, growing family of pack members.

>>18643280
Sounds funny.

>>18635531
morningwood sounds interesting

>>18643313
It really is, I think it started out as a web novel for free.

>>18642854
No, /sffg/ is also uneeded. We just need a stickied no post limit /Bakker general/ for the patricians.

>>18643333
No thanks, I don't want to read cuck shit.

>>18643343
>I don't want to read cuck shit
then you should support /gfg/

>>18643347
No thanks.

>>18643353
then you have to read cuck shit, there is no choice

>>18643355
You can other things that aren't cuck shit.

>>18643358
you can't

>>18643362
Why not post other series instead of shilling the same garbage everyday?

>>18643366
They’re from discord. All they do is shit up /sffg/.

>>18643385
I always knew that, they talked about before.

New thread
>>18643398

>>18643358
You can't. To live, to be, is to be cucked. It's like Hegel says, the Truth is only whole through the Self the recognizes itself in that which is not Self, but the sublation of Self. This Notion is the basis of Truth. That which is outside is possessed by the Other, and thus the Other possesses and sublates what is yours. Being in time is pure being owned, pure experience of what one owns being owned by another who is other, pure cuckoldry. All dasein in mixed in the forever systematizing expansion of wissencraft, which holds as its aim the absolyt cuckoldry of self. To be is to be cucked.

Is this series worth getting into? There is plenty of material, over 30 books. I heard the first book being described as an isekai novel.

>>18641856
3 stars or so, but what's more important to me if skimming a few of the good and bad reviews according to what I look for i.e. if all reviews note the characters are weak I'm disinterested, if many note the writer's style eclectic and hard to for them to read, I'm interested