/lit/ - Literature

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What's he smoking? I think it's a strain called "martyr of the humanities."

Bloom is hot boxing all of academia with his bomb ass dank ass sinsemilla.

>>1862638

>>I think it's a strain called "martyr of the humanities."

I giggled like a little girl.

Puff puff pass

Hamlet got me trippin, boo.

Could he be more fat and disgusting? For someone who likes to talk about beauty, he demonstrates very little practical awareness of it.

>>1862689
bloom is baron harkonnen

you are all retarded

he had to stop toking because it gave him anxiety

>>1862679

>>1862775

>look at summary
>The closest thing he ever had to a parent was Yorick the Jester, and his confrontation with Yorick's skull followed shortly by his attending Ophelia's funeral dealt a serious double blow to his indifference.
>closest thing Hamlet ever had to a parent was Yorick

Stopped reading there.

Do you think Harold Bloom appreciates Yorick's talent?

>>1862818
Too lucid for you?

You greenin out bro?

>>1862838

Maybe it's been too long since I've read Hamlet, but I am pretty sure that's some serious bullshit.

>>1862834
>that feel when your joke is too much of a stretch and you just know in your heart that anyone who gets it won't find it funny

>>1862818
OP here, I actually agreed on that point. Yet: Bloom claims to have dedicated the latter part of his writing career to the "common reader," but almost all of this tiny book is taken up by extremely nebulous contentions (the majority of which are given no evidence other than the text itself) which he calls "surmise."

Allow me to flip to a random page:
>Both the play and his own sensibility confine Hamlet: he is too large for tragedy, for his own self, and weirdly too titanic for imaginative literature. Shakespeare, though he fought against his creature's transcendence of all forms, loses the battle in the final scenes.

>>1862880

You mean you agree with Bloom? Can you explain?

>>1862880
I don't know if that's a correct surmise of Hamlet, but, as an aspiring writer, I think that's the goal to have. To create a character so complex and compelling, he becomes something more than the work he is present in.

>>1862950
Poem Unlimited, bro.

Bloom probably took that idea from Borges or Joyce or somebody.

>>1862970
>Joyce or somebody
Yeah, possibly the chapter of Ulysses dedicated to discussing Hamlet

>>1862914
I agree with his Yorick-as-parent idea. His father seems to have been a lustful warrior king, and I can't imagine him having a close role in raising Hamlet. Their encounter in Act 1 was an extremely odd reunion, with the late king expressing no love to his son but only blood lust for his murderer. Hamlet meanwhile employs an incredible mockery of passion and quickly reveals the illegitimacy of his emotion by calling his father's specter "old mole" and "truepenny."

Neither does Gertrude bear any hallmarks of a devoted mother. All we see of her suggests her own exuberant sexuality. Her marriage with Claudius seems too happy to have been carried out with much dread, and indeed after only two months she doesn't mourn her late husband for a moment. On that basis Bloom wonders (rightly I think) whether her relationship with Hamlet's uncle didn't begin as an affair during the former king's life. This causes me to suspect that she left young Hamlet with her courtiers while she was off pursuing whatever amorous endeavor. I should also mention that in the closet scene just before the murder of Polonius, she isn't even certain her own child won't kill her. And on her death Hamlet has no comment but, "Wretched queen, adieu." There can't be any bond between them.

Yorick is another story. Hamlet laments him, takes his skull in his hands, recounts his jokes and dances. The jester bore him on his back and kissed him on the lips. As the prince says, "How abhorred in my imagination it is!" This is real mourning. One is tempted to think that from Yorick's jest might originate Hamlet's own immense wit, but that's a limb that only Harold Bloom would go out on.

>>1863121

Thanks, makes sense.

>>1863121
Yorick is Shakespeare. Hamlet is Shakespeare's idealized son.

>>1863318
Evidence? What reason do we have to think Shakespeare idealized a murderous, nihilistic son?

>>1863337

hamlet could scarcely be less of a nihilist, dude

>>1863337
> son dies prematurely
> write greatest piece of literature immortalizing his son
> play in question deals with the outrageous torments of life, how it is still better to live and to suffer than not at all

>>1863318
read it last week in Scylla and Charybdis chapter of Ulysses

>>1863363
>implying Stephen's theory makes sense
>implying he even believes it himself

>>1863418
> implying you want to argue against Harold Bloom

laughingpreteens.exe

>>1863438

Who doesn't?

Bloom is the last angry white intellectual. Buckley is dead and all those faggots on Fox are strictly low-brow daddy-o.
Bloom thinks the bums lost, Mr. Lebowski. Your revolution is over. Also: the Beatles ruined rock and roll.
If you see Bloom as the real Lebowski character (not the Dude) in The Big Lebowski...he makes 'sense'.

>Bloom thinks the bums lost, Mr. Lebowski. Your revolution is over. Also: the Beatles ruined rock and roll.

Actually, Bloom sincerely believes that Coltrane ruined bebop jazz. (He is a huge fan of Charlie Parker and Bud Powell.) I don't think he acknowledges that rock and roll exists.

This is noteworthy because, for many academics of Bloom's age, it is important to pretend that the 60s simply did not happen.

>>1864088
Such a comparison is worthless without mentioning who the Dude is.

>>1864092
Thank you for that insightful nugget.Very useful and interesting.>>1864101

>>1864101
You miss points. I suspect many of them.
Nice try, keep playing along at home.

>>1864092
Haha, that's sweet. I knew he loved Powell and Parker but he hates Coltrane?

Not sure if I can take this man even half seriously anymore.

sage for coltrane hater