/lit/ - Literature

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Any good novels with a little girl protagonist?

>>18627489
>>18627520
>>18627419
make some irl friends you absolute losers

>>18627634
kek this
>sex books autist
>pedo
>bakkerhater
>paranoid-of-cuckoldry autist
>fuck e william brown autist
>the 1-3 bakkerfags
>the sad discord tranny
>the raging misogynist
i feel like at least half of these are the same person endlessly shitposting the same garbage. very sad bunch of fuckhead losers here in /sffg/

What's a book or manga like Beserk? I don't want it to end.

>>18628451
read Shin Angyo Onshi

>>18628451
the second apocalypse by r scott bakker is extremely berserk-esque. but better.

>>18627520
Don't know what this is but she's probably jealous.

I just got to the first chapter... man the prose is awful. It is so lacking in description of anything, and it makes the pacing feel hyper quick.
And looking at the glossary didn't help much with explaining some things.
There's a bit where a character finds some shelter and kills a wild dog in there, and it's described with about the same word count I just used.
Why is this so big here?

>>18628546
>Why is this so big here?
it's not, it's the same 5 guys

>>18628546
The author himself shills it.

>>18628546
This general always obsesses about 1 or 2 authors for a few months at a time. They're good books though. It's very common for adult sff to have a ton of events and stuff you don't recognize in the first couple chapters and then unpack it through the rest of the book, or several as the case may be.

Starting this tonight, what am I in for?

>>18628546
I got memed into reading it (thank God I didn't pay for that shit). I dropped it a few chapters in - major gay vibes from the molestation at the beginning and the agent guy getting dommed by that black bvll

>>18627415
I just finished the first book of the Elric Saga. Solid 7/10 from me as it kept me interested but it was really simple/direct. I remember an anon a thread or two ago saying it felt "dated" and I have to agree. The idea of "dark fantasy" probably hit a lot harder when it first came out and people were used to Tolkien and his imitators. A very enjoyable read but I don't plan to read any further in the series so I'll have to assume Prince Yrrkoon keeps twirling his mustache and cucks Elric hard in the end.

recently came across this detailed map of asoiaf, amazing attention to detail and lore

>>18628945
Yeah that's a really good map. Too bad the series is now meme status

>>18628546
You were filtered, like so many others. Thanks for playing; perhaps Sanderson is more your reading comprehension level.

>>18629237
Filtered by bad writing ability?
Also I dunno who that is... so are you condemning yourself for being closer to a fan of whomever then me?

>>18628915
>A very enjoyable read but I don't plan to read any further in the series so I'll have to assume Prince Yrrkoon keeps twirling his mustache and cucks Elric hard in the end.

>>18628505
I read it and really enjoyed it however, Beserk is better, plenty of books do what Bakker does as well or better, just not in the genre, but Beserk is peak grimdark aesthetics, genre defining.

>>18629337
Berserk is a cool story and looks great, but isn't really much of an actual story. It's an extremely slow and traditional Hero's Journey where the MC accumulates party members while going around solving problems. This is completely fine, but comparing Bakker to it is missing the point so hard one must question what mindset you even approach media with.

>>18628945
Nice. Is WoW ever coming out? I remember when 2015 was THE year.

I read them all back in 2008, except Dance when it came out. IDK if I'd even remember major plot points at this point.

i read dune and it was very good. i am not looking forward to the cancerous hollywood version

>>18629351
Yeah, and it has absolutely fantastic art for a work its size. Really beautiful work that perfectly embodies and aesthetic. It isn't meant to be any deeper than that. It's a work that communicates through theme and tone, although the lore is cool, it mostly sets up the symbolic art that pulls on all sorts of threads. Hard to think of better unities of atmosphere and art style (the original 1996 Diablo maybe).

Bakker is great fantasy, but it's trying to be literature too, and the Brother's Karmazov it is not. Bakker basically covers everything he puts out in 200 pages of Neuropath and then bangs on it throughout the Second Apocalypse. Which is fine because the lore is exceptional and the prose is pretty good, but other books have that too (e.g. Hyperion or Dune).

>>18628945
Are the stand alone GRRM books good? I started to read the first one about the Targaryen knight, but I had to return it to the library.

>>18629389
don't read that fat fucking faggot until he finishes the series

>>18629351
>It's an extremely slow and traditional Hero's Journey where the MC accumulates party members while going around solving problems
This doesn't tell the whole story with Berserk though. Everything up until the Golden Age arc is perfectly capable of standing on its own (which is why so many adaptations focus on it exclusively) and the full blown save-the-world shenanigans with the JRPG party don't start until after the Conviction arc.

Really, when I think of Berserk I mostly picture the Black Swordsman arc as a cold open, the Golden Age arc as the main body of the story and Lost Children as a completely different one starring some of the same characters. I can give or take everything Conviction onwards, Millenium Falcon and Fantasia don't feel like classic Berserk to me anymore.

Got through all the books of the new sun and viriconium. What are some other S++ dying earth books to check out? Especially more in the super-hallucinatory verbally dense style of viriconium.

>>18629389
The only good part in ASOIAF is the fanfiction of War of Roses.

>>18629389
read dunk and egg stories, three published short stories set 100 years before the main series, story about a commoner who roams the seven kingdoms as a knight-for-hire, pretty epic, and for certain readers their further publication is of a more concern than twow or ados.
Fire and blood is dry history and would be enjoyable if you liked silmarillion.
But grrm has written other stories in his 1000 world setting with the basic premise that many different planets that were colonised but their civilisation receded due to protracted warfare. Recommended stories:
Sandkings
Dying of the light
Windhaven

>>18627415
>Discord
https://discord.com/invite/KWPCM7m

>Book Club Selection
Priest of Bones

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37884491-priest-of-bones
>The war is over, and army priest Tomas Piety heads home with Sergeant Bloody Anne at his side. But things have changed while he was away: his crime empire has been stolen and the people of Ellinburg--his people--have run out of food and hope and places to hide. Tomas sets out to reclaim what was his with help from Anne, his brother, Jochan, and his new gang: the Pious Men. But when he finds himself dragged into a web of political intrigue once again, everything gets more complicated.
> As the Pious Men fight shadowy foreign infiltrators in the back-street taverns, brothels, and gambling dens of Tomas's old life, it becomes clear:
> The war is only just beginning.

>>18629355
i doubt if even grrm knows.
2015.. good times, i too remember the hype of it getting released by the end of the year

>>18628546
>There's a bit where a character finds some shelter and kills a wild dog in there
Because it's not important enough to spend five pages describing it? Go read Wheel of Time if you need pointless meandering descriptions of nothing. That seems to be what the average fantasy reader prefers.

>>18629337
>gigantic massive anime sword
Does the character wielding it have superhuman strength? I can't take shit like this seriously.

What are some books worth reading in this genre
https://www.goodreads.com/genres/enemies-to-lovers

>>18629278
>Filtered by bad writing ability?
"Generic fantasy word vomit" is not good writing, no matter how much you think it is.

>>18628546
> man the prose is awful. It is so lacking in description of anything
Then why don't you go read Sanderson if you want your "good" prose.
He describes a a lot and is incredibly wordy.

>>18630110
But Kellhus ate food and it didn't spend three pages describing every single item of food he ate!

>>18628546
Wtf? I think the prose is way above the benchmark for the genre. Granted I’m only on the second chapter. For example, compare him to a modern “staple” of fantasy like Rothfuss. They are worlds apart in terms of sentence quality alone.

>>18630137
I’m only two chapters in and I’m defending Bakker. Jesus Christ I’m becoming one of them.

>>18630145
one of us
one of us
one of us

the black coom...

How's Black Stone Heart

Vidya player here
are there websites or channels that do something like checking out new releases every month, reviewing them and recommending hidden gems or something like akin to what videogame review sites do but for books?

>>18630225
No, pretty much all channels only recommend the latest hyped shit.

There are far too many books released to properly scour for hidden gems anyway.

>>18630240
oh..
well maybe not new releases then
surely there are channels or websites that just recommend books they've recently decided to check out?

>>18630242
Yes, plenty of sites and channels that review stuff.

>>18630244
can you give me a few pointers?
maybe share a few channels you personally watch or sites you visit?

>>18630180
TELL ME…..

>>18630145
I started out as a hardcore Bakker-skeptic. Then I read his shit and realized it’s the best thing the genre has to offer.

>>18630145
And it gets better, don't worry.

>>18630016
This Is How You Lose the Time War

>>18630283
you mean it gets even more long winded. the guy has the same problem erikson has

>>18627415
I'm about to buy malazan
What am I in for?

Can we do another big consolidation and turn into /gfg/, genre fiction general?

>>18630491
This

>>18630491
I've thought for a while that we should at least include horror.

>>18630491
certainly would breathe new life into this general considering it's just unanswered posts and bakker shills

>>18630491
also transfer to /tg/ so we don't have to deal with /lit/ pseuds

>>18630594
That would be a good idea since half of you aren't interested in stories or characters but treat novels as autistic DnD lore manuals.

>>18628546
Sounds to me like you got filtered.

>see cover of something with a neat dragon on it
>wonder about books with dragon protags
>do some searching
>...do more searching
>pic

For such an obvious concept there's shockingly little to find. You have to wade through oceans of romance with the word "shifter" attached (I presume the dragon is a human love interest that turns into a dragon once or twice), and in the end I found like one book and a series that gets poor reviews halfway through. And some children's books which even those are sparse. I couldn't even find obvious furry shit.

I remember reading a random book my Mom bought me years ago about a dude being a dragon cavalry in a military or something
Don't even remember the name, or what happens, I don't think I even finished the book
but the world seemed so magical.

>>18630961
This is the book I found, might as well try it. The series is Age of Fire.

>>18628546
The Author actually shills it here himself. It's actually pretty fucking good though. Like lotr through a nightmare filter. If you can't get into a book that doesn't have a star wars exposition crawl on the first page you're not gonna get it though.

>>18628915
Imagine getting filtered by one of the foundational texts of the genre. Perhaps I could interest you in a copy of Eragon or a sõylent latte my good sir?

>>18628945
Why are there so many blacks? Is this the HBO map?

>>18628945
I think I'm gonna read this series this year, I know the show, but kind of want to go a bit deeper

>>18631001
>X of Y and Z

>>18631009
Give it a rest Bakker, being stand offish and pretentious won't get you any more "fans"

>>18631009
>like lotr through a nightmare filter
more like if someone played too much heroes of might and magic

Are there any other good Science-Fantasy books/series out there similar to Warhammer 40k or Book of the New Sun?

>>18628546
The prose is excellent I thought. Particularly the wide panning lens of battles that tell ministries about goings on and the histories of individual soldiers throughout a battle. The repition of "and death came swirling down..." when people die too. It reminds me of the Iliad and other epic poetry and gives battles a great, bird's eye view.

The internal monologues, dialogue, and fake philosophy books are all good too. It isn't totally original, the fake history books introducing chapters are from Dune, and the Dunyain over all are sort of a dark twist on "what would a mentat from Dune really think like?" but it's definitely written quite well, particularly for a genre that tends to have bad prose.

That said, after 7 books the epic style can drag a bit and make things too wordy. Felt that with LOTR too. Which is weird because I love epics from antiquity and the middle ages, it just feels fake after awhile in modern fantasy.

The one real weakness I agree with is that the taudry sex scenes add nothing to the story and sometimes make the female characters seem fake and one dimensional. The female leads in the first three books are frankly a bit flat, although they aren't in the later four books. It's a legitime complaint that the sexual violence seems gratitous in detail at times, and I see why people get turned off by it. I've had similar problems recommending Beserk, although personally it always cracks me up that people can read descriptions or look at pictures of endless graphic murder and torture, but then even implied rape is a deal breaker.

>>18631141
Yeah it reminds of the illiad, specifically the bad stilted english translations of it that were the norm for most of the 20th century

>>18631009
Those aren't particularly novel terms if you read on modern mind-body philosophy and cognitive science.

Is this the best series of all time?

>>18631216
The superior thorns book.

>saves not one but two series, entirely on his own
Name a better Sanderson character than Kelsier

>>18631038
this was created by an asoiaf forum member named other-in-law. I knew of his works like pic related but his entire work in one place was new for me. Every detail in the image is canonically correct, down to the skin tone of whatever characters you see, they were as the author intended them to be.
You can see the attention to detail and dedication to the series in this work, something every book reader will appreciate.

what are some fantasy books where the protagonists bonds with a mythical creature of immense power

>>18630946
Bakker is not for dummies or inexperienced ESL.

>>18631301
Lust of the Kobolds

>>18631312
are kobolds considered mythical creatures of immense power?

>>18631211
No one said they were.

>>18631141
Woman hands typed this.

>>18631273
Adolin

>>18631312
very funny anon, but bond as in non-sexual, purely platonic kinship
like a warrior and his steed

Is it mandatory to read Malazan in order? I see how they tend to jump from one place to the next so wondering if there's a non-linear way to read them

>>18631346
The Cay by Theodore Taylor.

Lord valantines castle is good, read it.

>>18631301
Eragon

Is Dune really worth the praise? I've never read it, but I'm somewhat interested.

>>18631437
It's one of the most read and highest rated books by /sffg/. It also has its detractors though of course. Only you can decide whether it's worth the praise though.

>>18631371
Why would you read a series in an order that the author explicitly doesn't want you to do?

I've read so much Epic Fantasy my brain is melting. Can someone recommend some fantasy books that aren't just the first installment of a 2,000,000 word series? I've looked through the torrent lists but when there's thousands of titles trying to pick one just makes my already melting brain leak out my ears.

>>18631503
Have you tried searching for standalone books?

>>18631503
You could also try reading anthologies, magazines, and collections for shorter works.

>>18631026
>filtered
Hardly, it's an enjoyable book but the characters felt overly simple. I can see the appeal of reading it but I have so many other books I still need to check out.

>>18631437

>distant reeeeing of Zelazny fans

Is this even better than Throne of Glass?

>>18631495
Didn't realise the author said otherwise, hoped it was kind of like The Culture series

>>18631503
read Chalion. It has sequels but they're all self-contained stories with different characters

>>18631371
The fuck? What's the proper order?

patrick gnomefuss

Fuck lotr meme eagles, why didn't Kellhus just fly over Golgotterath and drop a nuke there?

>>18628546
t. filtered
keep drooling

>>18631133
Deathstalker is very science fantasy and probably the most similar thing to 40k I've read.
It's a very blatant homage/pastiche to popular scifi so you have a pretty standard space opera plot set in a universe where the author will put anything he wants if he thinks it's cool which is very 40k because it's never acknowledged how absurd it is.

>>18631437
yes it is

>>18631503
Can someone explain this to me? Why would anyone want to read a standalone book instead of a book that is a part of series (and then read later books in the series) ?

>>18631876
Because then the author has to actually end shit instead of just leaving a lot of teases for the future that never get resolved.
I'll read anything but I'm kinda bored about random details from the past that I know won't be revealed for 3 books

>>18631876
Not him but if you're not memeing, standalone books can be really nice in how they have complete plots/character arcs in a single volume. Often the author will pour everything they have into the singular volume to make it as good as it can be without any one idea overstaying its welcome or being dragged out. There's this book I like, Treason by OSC, that is a based as fuck Hero's Journey contained within a single book brimming with neat sci-fi ideas and such. It was a fun read, and I'm glad I read it (back in the day), but I wouldn't want to read a series of it.

>>18631876
Because the Wheel of Time is over 4,000,000 words long and in that length you could have read 40 standalone novels of varied setting, characters, and plot
There's depth in Epic Fantasy you can't get without spending a million words immersing the reader in the world, but there's also staleness and predictability.

>>18631905
Just going to note that you're using argument ad absurdum here. Be careful. Wheel of Time is the longest published fantasy series ever, so it inversely weakens your argument to use it as your base example instead of a series of more average length.

>>18631920
> Wheel of Time is the longest published fantasy series ever
It isn't.

>>18631920
>Wheel of Time is the longest published fantasy series ever,
what? it isn't by a long shot.

>>18631970
what is the longest

>>18631876
Because quality is superior to quantity.

>>18631980
Talmud.

>>18631980
Goggle is your friend. But from what i have read, -or started to- malazan and disc world are both a lot longer than wheel of time.
And if you consider eastern series then most of them dwarfs the wheel of time easily, even if their quality is quite shite.

why is wheel of time even so long
I only read the first book and it seemed like you could wrap everything up in a tight trilogy

>>18632013
Sorry, I should say in the context of English. No clue about foreign languages, and in any case, it's hard to measure length in other languages. Japanese is so different from English it's literally impossible to compare length accurately, for example. (They don't even separate words with spaces, or measure anything by wordcount. They use character count.)
>>18632019
Why do you say "google is your friend" then post verifiably false information? Malazan and Discworld are both shorter than Wheel of Time, which you could confirm very swiftly if you put in any effort.

Also, note that I said "published" specifically to exclude web fiction (since I knew, for example, that The Wandering Inn is longer. Web serials balloon to stupid length and I was intentionally excluding them. This is /sffg/ after all and we mainly talk about published books, not shitty web fiction.)

>>18632045
That depends on which books you count in the series. That's excluding a lot of books for a lot of them.

>>18631745
Because not everyone can be saved.

What does it mean if you strongly relate to Kellhus?

>>18632061
The Malazan side books are set in distinctly different series. Path to Ascendancy, The Kharkanas Trilogy, etc. It's somewhat pedantic, I'll agree, but the "Malazan series" is not the same as "the Malazan universe." If we start talking about "the longest fantasy universes" then we'll have to start thinking about every Forgotten Realms book and such. It's a different topic.

>>18632096
Seems like that should apply for other ones as well then. It's very arbitrary.

>>18632113
It does, to my knowledge. WoT doesn't have its additional content either. Every series is given the same treatment: only books from the main series count, not side content / content just set in the same universe.

>>18632045
Depending when this chart was made, Shannara may be longer now.

i'm less than a third in but this is really fucking annoying, every couple pages i have to stop reading for a second beacuse of how edgy it is, and the narrator is the worst offender. what do you guys think of it, i think i recall it being recommended here. the book starts with a comment about how the it was written in memory of the brave soldiers of the city and whatever so i thought the tone of it would be completely different i don't know

also it's fucking confusing that the city population is black, but the main character is white but at one point he mentions he has a skin disease, is he white or is it actually a skin disease?

>>18632140
It's not remotely edgy Orhan is just an amoral busybody

>>18632096
>Forgotten Realms
You could break that down to series though couldn't you? For example there are almost 40 Drizzt novels.

>>18629337
This anon gets it. I'm never reading Bakker, sounds like a snorefest

>>18632140
and the plot feels like a sitcom more than a fantasy book, everything that happens that moves the plot forward is a huge event that happens instantly, like the first attack on the city, or later when the whole city's army goes outside and gets ambushed and wiped in an instant off screen, and the same with the navy earlier. and they talk in tons and thousands of miles of rope and debasing the coin with copper which they get from copper pipes, what fucking kind of mediaval-like world is this

>>18632148
i think it's both the characters and the whole setting but yeah I can't stand the guy

>>18632160
>and the plot feels like a sitcom more than a fantasy book
congrats on realising the comedy novel is a comedy

>>18629118
>Too bad the series is now meme status
Honestly dude, fuck it. I still love it

>>18632173
comedies are funny

>>18632150
Exactly. The chart is about individual series, not universes. Thus, it counts the main Malazan series, not every book in the universe.

>>18632150
Let's do a very rough estimation here.
40 novels * 350 pages average = 14,000 pages. Then let's say there are 300 words per page. That's 4.2 million words, which certainly puts into contention versus Wheel of Time.

>>18632238
I skimmed one and found a word count of 94k. Overall, rough estimations introduce so much fuzziness over 39 books that there's not much point in making them, it just muddies the water.

>>18631720
Why is this posted in every thread? Lol

>>18632284
He should post this instead

>>18631876
Would No Country For Old Men have been better as a series?

No one reads xianxia anymore?

>>18632301
Why are tumblrites unable to draw attractive people? Any books for this?

>filteredfilteredfilteredfilteredfilteredfilteredfilteredfilteredfilteredfilteredfilteredfilteredfilteredfilteredfiltered

It's fucking DBZ designed for history/philosophy nerds.

>>18632375
Art reflects the soul of the artist.

Started reading pic related, I'm only 100 pages in so far but it is well witten.

>>18632376
Even more amazing how many people get filtered then.

>>18632375
Marxism is all about destruction of establishment. If people depict appealing people and find certain elements appealing, then it must be opposed for the sake of opposing it because inherently bad for existing.
Look at what's happening across entertainment. If you think of it on basic business, capitalist, enterprising terms then it just doesn't make any sense. If you think of it as driven by a desire to destroy then it all clicks.

>>18630283
I can't tell if that's pure grimderp or inspired by south asian/hindu myths... cause I've been looking at the latter lately and that shit be crazy

>>18632524
https://princeofnothing.fandom.com/wiki/Inchoroi

>>18632513
Why do you retards think every single tumblr lib is a deeply studied marxist

>>18631293
>Every detail in the image is canonically correct, down to the skin tone
>Ayooo we wuz kangs in da norf an shiet
Nigger you are trippin

>>18631876
actually having an ending, resolution to character arcs and conflicts, and being able to move onto something else instead of waiting a decade

Fuck E William Brown
Fuck Delays
Fuck Pay Pigs
Fuck Pay Walls
Fuck Lying to your Fans
FUCk no 2021 release

>>18631901
one standalone I recently read was Mageknight, started with a farm boy and ended with a Grey Knight with an indomitable will fighting off giant ass demons while riding a black dragon. The tragic part about standalone novels is while they dont overstay their welcome, they also do end, and Mageknight ended after he defeated one of the demon generals but the war was ongoing and I still wanted more

>>18632602
You don't need to be deeply studied to be deeply programmed.

>>18632301
Hahahaha

>>18630283
Why is it the Slog of Slogs?
Why eat the black dust?

>>18632899
For atmosphere

>>18632899
Bakker broke the fourth wall or something in that book. It's like he knew it was a slog and had his mouthpiece repeat it.

>>18629977
Giant anime swords came from Beserk, that's the motif everyone is biting off.

And yeah, he's superhuman, fucks up demons that can wreck small armies.

>>18633042
>tfw no intestine haired gf to snu snu with
Why live?

>>18628546
>It is so lacking in description of anything
That's why I fucking loved this series. There are SO MANY fantasy novels that get bogged down in "painting a picture," and I end up so fucking lost.

It's like every single fantasy author has an architectural thesaurus open next to him, and is ready to explain the exact slope of the rooftop, the phraseology associated with the detailing along the walls. i.e. a bunch of shit I DON'T need, and DON'T want to research.

Why do so many hack fantasy authors insist on these kinds of descriptions when they don't actually evoke anything fantastical. I don't need three pages describing the castle. I just need to know I'm in a castle.

>>18633083
I hate that shit too. Give me enough for my imagination to start working and then proceed with the story.

>>18633083
It's called worldbuilding, you loser. If you don't describe the details, the reader just gets a generic image in their head. You don't want to create an epic castle steeped in the lore and history of the world only for the reader to envision some generic European castle from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Pic related, this is an IRL Japanese castle. You wouldn't mentally envision this from the word "Castle" would you? The author would need to describe it in detail. This stuff doesn't matter to low-iq readers who just care about the base plot and ignore all the finer details, but it's precisely these fine details which make for richer and more interesting worlds and journeys. Who the fuck cares if the characters visit some dull Euro castle? I want to know about fantastical, interesting castles.

>>18633083
That's always bothered me. People seem to be inspired by Tolkien, but fail to remember that Tolkien actually wrote very colloquially.

>>18633098
>muh world building
Read a comic book if the aesthetic shit is what matters. If the castle has floating turrets. Sure, describe those. But going into immense detail to skirt around the fact that your setting has pagoda buildings despite being a fantasy world where Japan doesn't exist? A wasteful exercise.

>>18632349
What is there to read besides reverend insanity? I am nearing the last chapters of Martial World, it was fun but still not as good as RI, and it is considered one of better xanxias

know any good books about vampire zombie ghoul type creatures like I Am Legend or 30 Days of Night?

>>18631503
Battle Mage

>>18632140
Are his other books good. this was shit

Carythusal… home…

This book turns 10 years old tomorrow.

Say something nice about it and its author.

Why is this general so obsessed with Bakker?

>>18633189
Sunset found him squatting in front of the word processor, groaning. Every hour was less productive than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, he was holding down the spacebar. The more he procrastinated the more he hated himself, but the more he hated himself, the worse the writer’s block grew.

>>18633211
Because he’s /ourfantasist/ like none other.

>>18633083
>Why do so many hack fantasy authors insist on these kinds of descriptions
because it's an easy way to hit words counts to pad out and finish that "epic" fantasy series

>>18633106

"The region's castle had a peculiar roof that sloped upward at the edges."

So confusing, so space taking.

>>18633306
Why would it be peculiar if it's the inherent nature of a castle within the setting? Why does a fantasy setting have Japanese architecture to begin with?

BAKKER PLS GO

I FUCKIN KNOW YOU'RE IN HERE SHILLING MATE

>>18633310
Why? Maybe the POV character is not from this place and it is peculiar to them. Why does roof sloped up at the edges have to be Japanese? You think some fantasy civilization would never come up with this design ever? Get mogged brainlet and fuck off.

>>18633317
Some things deserve to be shilled.

>>18633317
I wish he was. The vocabulary and arrogance levels ITT are too low, however.

>>18633335
>tfw you will never witness a gnostic duel between akka and kellhus

>>18633335
Okay, real question: Why does Bakker stuff have so much based as fuck fanart? I'm not sure I've seen any other series with this much.

Name one book more grimdark.
And don't come with that soft Bakker shit, he ain't got nothing on this.

Fall of Reach was unironically pretty good. I read it after reading a bunch of Walter Scott and 19th century Russian novels, so it was a nice breather.

>finished the crippled god
What the fuck was the point of all of this ?

fuck grim dark

>>18633188
Holy shit this is incredible

>>18633402
Edgelord isn't grimdark, anon.

>>18633211
it's just a few autists

>>18633211
>Why is the fantasy general obsessed with the best modern fantasy series
I dunno

>>18633420
the halo book? i read it long ago and i also liked it a lot, kinda mindless and masturbatory entertaining but very enjoyable and well made. The Ghosts of Onyx is also quite good, and i read a couple of the other novels too but they were far worse, just cheap repetitive badly written action. i don't know if they released any other good books since then

>>18633083
So you hate descriptions?

>>18633402
>As the witch-pyres of the Spanish Inquisition blanket Renaissance Europe in a moral haze
sounds interes--
>a young African slave
dropped
>finds herself
mega dropped

>>18633189
I bought it for my mother when it came out. Good thing she's not really an avid reader or a massive fan of the series or there would be hell to pay.

>>18633537
> wants dark
> Doesn'\t want literal dark

>>18627809
Alone with all my “““frens”””…

>>18633401
isn't it all from the same guy

>>18633536
glen cook is an interesting example of the exact opposite where some people can't stand how terse he is with descriptions. and the black company isn't even bad in that particular case. try reading the dragon never sleeps, it will drive you mental just how condensed and note-style it's written.

>>18631980
"The Story of the Vivian Girls, in What is Known as the Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinian War Storm Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion" or "In the Reals of the Unreal" for short, written by autist surpreme Henry Darger.

At 15,145 (densely typed) pages it's the longest novel ever written if you disqualify record chasing stunts like "Marienbad My Love." Consequently it's also the longest fantasy novel of all time and beats The Wheel of Time, which merely sits at about 11,564 pages total.

>>18633371
>akka and kellhus
>duel

>>18633591
>The Story of the Vivian Girls, in What is Known as the Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinian War Storm Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion
is it any good, though?

Brandon Sanderson

>>18633611
>Brandon Sanderson

Is he purposefully going after the zoomer crowd? That's the impression I got from his books.

>>18633611
>>18633628
Someone post “it”….
The Webm…
You know of what I speak…

>>18633610
You may judge it for youself, since it has been finally scanned and made freely available to the public: http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/intuit/search/
But by all accounts of those who bothered reading at least portions of it, it's a rambling repetitive mess.

>>18633638
oh yeah check this out

>>18632045
how is the wandering inn?

>>18629977
The sword was made to make fun of a noble who asked for a weapon that could kill dragons. He actually uses a normal sword for a good chunk of the story and only picks up Dragonslayer once he's regularly fighting demons/apostles. Almost no one else in the cast can even lift it.

>>18633591
>writes and illustrates over 15000 pages of story knowing fully well he'll never show them to anyone
Goddamn.

>>18633371
Khellus would just brain wash him into friendship and then rape his ass... wouldn't be the first or even second time a Dunyain pulls that trick.

>>18628451
I got recommended the black company for the same question and it's decent.

I'm finally dropping anathem after dragging it for two months.
please recc something on the caliber of Hyperion, Spin, Worm(john mccrae) or red rising.
I really desire another banger and couldn't find another one of the list of hugo winners.

>>18633718
The purest of artistry. No commercial motive whatsoever, just undiluted self expression born from an intrinsic drive to create for the sake of creating.

>>18633591
Page count doesn't matter. The size of paper/font were completely different between Henry Darger's works and Wheel of Time. Hell, you can get different editions of WoT with different page counts. Word count is the only count that matters. Page count is fuzzy and meaningless.

There's no publicly available word count for Darger's work, but the photos I could see of the actual pages had less text on each page than the edition of WoT I have. This kind of difference would balloon out enormously across 10,000+ pages.

>>18633669
nobody would call his golden age sword a normal sword. it cleaves humans in half through armor and cuts through swords like they're butter.(except grifith's though.. for no good reason) it's about as long as guts and probably weighs above 15kg.

>>18628945
I feel bad for the fans who put so much love and effort into it, only to be abandoned by the fat man. It seems clear he is burned out on Asoiaf, yet he keeps leading people on, because he loves being adored by his fans too much. Adoration which would go Poof the moment he admitted that he has no intention of finishing his series anymore. Plus he needs to keep the con going in order to further milk the franchise with spinoffs like House of the Dragon.

>>18633775
Word density on Darger's pages varies a lot, but many look like pic related, making good use of the available space per page. The real problem is that a total of three 3 volumes out of 15, I think, are nothing but illustrations. Anyway, until such a time as someone creates an AI for counting words on pdf scans and sets it to the task, it will be hard to compare Into the Realms of the Unreal to other works.

>>18633611

>>18633797
I actually remembered that a few minutes after posting it, but it probably would've felt like a nitpick to anyone who hasn't read the series. It's repeatedly pointed out that his previous sword is fuckhuge, but it's at least human-sized. With Dragonslayer it doesn't even matter that he dulls and cracks the edge to all fuck because against most opponents it's effectively just a huge sword-shaped metal cudgel

>>18633930
Gunderson would win.

>>18633930
Brandserson is an absolute unit

What are your favorite survival novels?

>>18629977
Big demonic enemies require big swords to kill

>>18631371
>>18632650
>Mageknight
Are you talking about Battle Mage?

>>18627415
Are his books any good?

>>18634058
Does the big swords stop you from getting man raped?

>read Goodreads reviews for Xanth
>Muh sexism
Well I guess I will read Xanth now

>>18634128
goodreads always gives me the best rape books.
Just look for a female crying about rape and I know I can have the book in one hand and my one eyed ninja in the other.

>>18634139
Based. Any personal favorites you'd like to recommend?

>>18634128
it's terrible, go ahead if you want to own the goodreads reviewers or whatever but you're just tricking yourself into reading dogshit

>i love rape but only if it’s a self-insert male hero character raping a helpless wahman
you guys are fucked in the head

at least bakker’s approach to rape is nuanced and multifaceted and not just some sick incel wish fulfilment fantasy

>>18634161
Goodreads users tend to have bad opinions so taking 1 star reviews is a good policy

>>18634183
>at least bakker’s approach to rape is nuanced and multifaceted
Do Bakkershills really?

>>18634189
it is though, RAFO

>>18634183
what about bakker's approach to cuckoldry?

>>18627415
Who made those charts they're awful

Any novels with supernatural elements that are mostly in the background but add to the mysterious atmosphere of the book like in Metro 2033?

>>18634225
Make your own then, faggot.

>>18634128
Yeah his work has quite a bit of that stuff in it, but that’s not why I dislike him. Prose sucks, stories suck, and characters. Pretty much everything

>running out of stuff that is even worth looking up in goodreads recommendations.
>new releases fairly dry due to books being put back months
I might unironically have to use r/fantasy to find stuff to read again

>>18634332
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30077795-planet-adyn
>joan messi
lmao at least some of mine are funny

>>18634183
I don't need a specially crafted self-insert hero, I will happily and easily self insert into any male raping a helpless wahman regardless of the author's intentions.

oh no wolfe bros

>>18634126
In Guys case yes. Before having the big sword, he gets manraped, after he does not. QED

>>18634403
>86 yr old man gives money to corpo republicans
I'm saddened but not surprised.

>>18634403
Giving money to republicans is such a dumb thing to do. The whole point of the right wing is that they get funded by big business anyway.
Believe what you want politically but that's just throwing money away

>>18634225
Random people over the course of many years.

>>18634462
>The whole point of the right wing is that they get funded by big business anyway.
All politicians are bought by big business you. Democrat are not any less corrupt or corporativist than republicans despite your implications.
This sort of talk: "believe what you want and do what you want except this thing which is wrong because I said so, look at how neutral I am" is fucking retarded wand so are you.

>>18634491
Gay post
Giving to the Democrats is also dumb if you really need that clarification to stop you from sperging out

>>18634497
That is not what was implied in your post and you know it. You literally went "hur dur republicans only exist to be bought by big business " as if that somehow didn't apply to the other side.
If that were not the case you would have said politicians only exist to get funded by big businesses instead of singling out one side.

>>18634507
I see it didn't stop you sperging out

>>18634462
Beta soi cuck, I was happy to donate to We Build Wall and Stop the Steal, just as I will be happy to fight for the God Emperor when he exposes the rigging and takes back his rightful seat in the White House.

Enjoy being rules by pedocrats, Moloch worshiping demons who will feed you to the migrants.

>>18634513
>"Enjoy being rules by pedocrats, Moloch worshiping demons who will feed you to the migrants."
> implying this is not ture
>Implying republicans aren't in on it
you guys are truly npcs....

>>18634149
No, because my previous post is something that I made up to appear cool and witty

>>18634462
The 2010 donation was technically for a third party run. At any rate these are just flyshit feelgood donations. I don't think donating barely $400 over the course of six years made much of a dent in his wallet, if at all. He probably was able to write it off from his taxes too, yet he still purchased the satisfaction of having supported a cause he believed in.

>>18633401
Perhaps because the darkling beauty of the series inspires great artwork.

>>18634161
>>18634258
>This much seething

>>18634249
Asking for recs is discouraged be ause of those garbage charts. They should be removed

>>18634603
>implying the recs are ever anything other than the standard responses

>>18631852
I’m going to be checking this one out. Do you have any more suggestions? I’m looking for other books in the genre and Google hasn’t provided me with good suggestions. They don’t all have to be similar or even related to 40k and BOTNS.

>>18633211
Because he keeps on shilling his own books here in 4chan /lit/. See previous replies here in this thread.

>>18633211
>Because he keeps on shilling his own books here in 4chan /lit/. See previous replies here in this thread.
It's just 1-3 bakkercucks shilling them.

>>18634667
>1-3 Bakkerchads
It's literally everyone but you, the chinkshitter, and the Sandersöi fag. Cope

>>18634667
by my estimate there's at least five

>>18633430
bent and roach survive. there, that's the meaning. also fiddler

>>18634403
>donating to tom tancredo in 2010 when you live in illinois
>based

wolfe man was truly wonderful

Thoughts on Asimov's Foundation trilogy?

>map is paleolithic Europe
What did he mean by this?

>>18634810
That he's a hack.

>>18634810
Bravura autism. Congrats, anon.

>>18634823
Filtered and ignored.

>>18634786
Dry as toast, but I enjoyed it throughout. Read some early robot book too, as they take place in the same universe.

Is Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir any good?

>>18634786
First 3 books are pretty good. Later ones not as much, but bad Asimov is still OK light reading.

They leapt in rapture, cowered in worship.
Every reflection glimpsed exhorted, boomed, “THE GOD KNOWS YOUR MEASURE!”
The Men of the Three Seas screamed, jubilant, deranged.
The Meat … Proyas thought, too cold to betray his gagging horror.
The Meat had taken Anasûrimbor Kellhus.

>>18635017
Reads like shit.

>>18635038
>Reads like shit.

>>18629444
Nifft the Lean by Michael Shea. Bit more sword and sorcery kind of stories, but he writes in a similarly baroque style to Vance or Wolfe's more ornate passages. And if you really wanna go all the way, The Night Land by William Hope Hodgson and the excellent pseudo-sequel Awake in the Night Land by John C. Wright.

>>18635063
WHY IS THIS POST PROTECTED FROM FLAGGING?

>>18634691
Six if you count me. I don’t shill, but Im loving the first book.

>>18635111
Begone, Thing-Beast. Your presence is not welcome at this fire.

Can’t decide if I want to read Dune or The Phoenix Guards

>>18635147
He's so desperate for attention that he's shitting up sffg now
>>18634810
>Golgotterath is in Finland
Checks out
>Zeum is England
WE

>>18635147
And yet the disgusting and off topic blowjack is welcome? You posted it?

Honestly though. I’m just curious as to why it’s getting a free pass. Did he buy a free pass and we’re not allowed to report his posts? Doesn’t make sense…

>>18635108
Parts of Awake in the Night Lands were kino, but most of the stories were feminist trash completely out of spirit with the based romanticism of the original

>>18635174
>Flags shit in generals he's not welcome in when he's not even part of the conversation
Go back to shilling Marx in outer lit, faggot

>want to start the wheel of time series
>don’t have nearly enough time to read all of the books
My schedule for the next eight months is suffering

>>18635198
I’m not Marxist (or male)

Do you guys watch any booktubers?
or listen to anybody talk about books?

>>18635253
No, we don't read books here.

>>18635253
There are no good YouTube channels about books.

>>18635253
There's a vtuber one, but I ain't sharing it.

>>18635295
anon please

Who’s read Solomon Kane? It’s pretty based IMO

>>18635322
We don't read, anon.

>>18635063
>Wojack posting.
Absolutely cancerous

>>18635187
I think you might've read those stories with a skewed view if you think Wright is in any way a feminist.

>>18635345
People see what they want to see.

>>18635324
Then get a library card and do so. What’s the point of posting here like a pseud if you don’t read? To merely get upset at LOTR being LGBT now?

>>18635340
Trip on, Butterfag.

>>18635368
I don't post here like a pseud, i actually hate them nor do I get upset at LOTR being LGBT now.

>>18635375
Do you or don’t you read?

>>18635383
I don't read, no one on /lit/ reads.

>>18635393
Then get out. Go to /tv/. Stop shitting up my board. I’ve already read one book a week for over 36 months now. It’s not hard.

>>18635399
why lie?

>>18635399
Why are you lying? Who are you trying to impress?

>>18635399
>I’ve already read one book
>doubt.

>>18635399
Yeah, sure, and I’m an Italian who has a PhD.

New thread
>>18635417

>>18635401
>>18635404
>>18635410
>>18635415

Samefag.

>>18635420
Wow, anon, really impressive editing skills. This will definetly trick the idiot anons who still believe people read books here.

>>18635253
Krimsonrogue is pretty based. His tear downs of horrible fantasy books are funny
>>18635345
It's been a few years but I seem to recall every other story being about le stronk female breaking the no chicks allowed in the night land rule

>>18635322
Everything by REH is based. I'm just disappointed that everyone has read him and Lovecraft while the best member of the trio guess unremembered

>>18627415
SFF week, lots of books.
goodreads.com/blog/show/2131

>>18636323
glad that blacktongue thief seems to be one of the more popular 2021 releases, it's really good

>>18634870
Bump

>>18636665
anon...
move to the new thread....