/lit/ - Literature

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Shestov I guess?!
Russians were better at theology

>>18605375
Berdyaev, Shestov, Kojeve, Spir, Dosto I guess, Prigogine, Lenin (sort of)

Losev and Bakhtin would probably be interesting to an average /lit/ poster. Also Bibikhin, but his works are probably untranslated. If you’re into weirder stuff, look into Russian cosmism or Roerich which are basically proto-transhumanism and proto-new age respectively (whatever you might read in English about them is probably going to be passed through that lens no matter what the original intent was). Dugin and Galkovsky (mostly untranslated, I think) are modern Russia’s big meme philosophers, their status in Russian intellectual circles is probably similar to that of Zizek around here, and deservedly so. Both have talked about politics which means that there are a lot of people that hate them so I’m not going to discuss them further to avoid derailing thread. Copleston also wrote an entire book on Russian philosophy which probably mentions most notable religious thinkers.

>>18605375
We are not very interested in philosophy and we are not strong in it. let the Greeks and Germans do it. (Although the latter - it would be better if they just brewed their own beer.)

Under the tsars, it was believed that from philosophy "the benefit is not defined, but the harm is possible." Under the Soviets, an ugly quasi-religious Marxist dogma was adopted. Now - who will give money for this?

In russia, writers become philosophers, while philosophers proper are rather unsuccessful writers.

Solovyov

>>18605402
And you fucked it up

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>>18605484
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>>18605557
Thanks
I should've added that I can read Russian, so untranslated works are fine

bump

Thoughts on Bulgakov?

>>18605375
Merab Mamardashvili

>>18605512
Based. Russian writers were able to weave philosophical concepts into stories that felt more impactful than dry preaching without compromising on the essence of those concepts. Non-Russian philosophers also take those stories as points of departure, e.g. Nietzsche with Dostoevsky, Berlin with Tolstoy.

What are some contemporary Russian authors? I haven't moved on from the 19th century.

>>18605831
Yes, I noticed. I'll never learn Russian, huh?

>>18607367
I've read Young Doctor's Notebook, Heart of a Dog, and M&M and all were good/great

>>18607445
>What are some contemporary Russian authors? I haven't moved on from the 19th century.
I don't really know modern Russian writers. The forced-feeding of literature at school discouraged me from reading literature in general, especially Russian.

Then you have to take something from the 20th century, starting with the Silver Age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_literature#Silver_Age
I myself am now reading Isaac Babel. It seems to have been translated quite a lot in the West. Well, he is (obviously) a Jew and was shot by Stalin, which is a good bonus to his reputation overseas.

Of my contemporaries, I have read only (except for the last novel) Viktor Olegovich Pelevin. He is very popular in our (near)-Buddhist circles, he has almost all books about the illusion of the outer and inner world of the individual. Such anatta in literature. He also has some great books, and there is complete commercial shit (now he has more of the latter) There is something in English.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/76022.Buddha_s_Little_Finger
What's pretty funny: In the original, the book is called "Chapaev and Emptiness". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapayev_and_Void
That is, even with the name some kind of confusion, what is there with the level of translation, I don't even know.

Recently read Dmitry Bykov "Fighter".
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58130013?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=TicjVY2oWK&rank=1
They also kind of translated him, which I don't know exactly (I know he was in the USA with lectures).

>>18607503
It's a pretty minor mistake. Don't be discouraged. What level are you on? If you're a beginner I recommend Penguin Russian Course

>>18605484
I haven't tried to learn Russian yet, but how does Berdyaev read in Russian? The two books I have by him are translated by Boris Jakim, who is apparently one of the most renowned translators of the Russian religious renaissance, but it seems like Berdyaev's sentences go on forever and repeat the same thing over and over again. I am pretty interested in what he has to say, but my eyes often end up glazing over after a while.

Why are russians so ugly

>>18610150
Russian women are attractive
Russian men exist in either very unattractive or very attractive forms, no inbetween

>>18607445
The only contemporary Russian author I've read is Eduard Limonov. Quite liked his stuff, would recommend

>>18607367
He's excellent. Probably the greatest theologian of the 20th Century. Ignore idiots who try to say his Sophiology is heterodox, it isn't. I also highly recommend The Pillar and Ground of Truth by Florensky. Overall I think early 20th Century Russian theology is the best you can find, I'm not Orthodox myself but I've been going through them.

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>>18608099
Sorry didn't realize you were talking about a completely different Bulgakov lmao

>>18611393
>it isn't
>I'm not Orthodox myself
lol

>>18611520
Eastern Orthodox anon. Not small o orthodox.

>>18611529
Eastern Orthodox is just a geographical qualifier. Orthodoxy itself is necessarily the same everywhere and Bulgakov's ""sophiology"" isn't a part of it.

>>18611894
Orthodoxy is being in communion with Rome so technically no Eastern Orthodox Church is orthodox as such, they're schismatic.

>>18605375
My favorite three : Shestov, Prigogine, Bakhtin

>>18611993
>in communion with modern* Rome
The same as being in communion with hell.

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>>18610901
thanks frens, will look into

Based Shestov posters. Don't forget Berdyaev.

Any particular works worth looking into from the philosophers mentioned ITT?