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/heidi/ - Martin Heidegger general
ITT:We discuss the writings of German philosopher Martin Heidegger

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No.

>> No.18594745

Why 4chan is a tranny central website? I wouldn't be surprised that 4chan trannies outnumber the twitter and tumblr trannies.

>> No.18594760

>>18594726
Hey Proudly glad to see you here

>> No.18594809

>>18594726
Atleast shave, you disgusting pig.
Heidegger is cool though.
I wish he had writen his historical studies surrounding the concept of the "subject" and how it ended up with the sad case of Husserl

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>>18594739
>No

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>>18594726
The natural sciences have fully replaced philosophy. Fags on this board will seethe and insist that the arcane wisdom of meme lords like Hegel, Plato, and Heidegger are still relevant but they are not. Philosophy is dead. If you want to know about the mind don't read "Phenomenology of Spirit" read a book about neuroscience. If you want to know about "Being and Time" you're going to have to study physics. This is objectively true and any philosophy fag response to this is pure, unadulterated cope.

>> No.18594843

>>18594833
Shitty bait

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>>18594833
low iq post

>> No.18594897

>>18594726
proudly, you are a retard and a faggot, kys

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>He reads Heidegger even though he never studied ancient greek grammar

>> No.18594926

>>18594833
Theurgy > Magic > Religion > Theology > Philosophy > Science

>> No.18594931

>>18594745
Can't get a woman? Become the woman.

>> No.18594942

>>18594833
>i now know why the planets orbit the sun
t-thanks science this will greatly improve my life!

>> No.18594947

"His major work Being and Time is formidably difficult—unless it is utter nonsense, in which case it is laughably easy. I am not sure how to judge it, and have read no commentator who even begins to make sense of it". - Roger Scruton"

Was he right?

>> No.18594997

>>18594947
He was and niggers on this board will seethe.

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>>18594739
>How can a man as coarse as Hitler govern Germany? *mfff*
>Cvltvre is of no importance.Jvst look at his marvelovs hands
Martin Heidegger was the original Svgma Male

>> No.18595088

>>18594919
Whats the connection, anon

>> No.18595158

Is Heidigger really tranny tier?

>> No.18595167

>>18594833
Based and correct. I genuinely don't see how anyone can dispute this.

>> No.18595193

>>18595167
>>18594847

>> No.18595235

>>18595158
No but I get the impression someone really wants us to think that it is.

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>>18595088
>Whats the connection, anon
This board has no future.

>> No.18595847

>>18595299
Instead of being smug you could explain what you meant and help improve the board by your own standards

>> No.18595960

>>18595847
lmao

>> No.18596213

>>18595960
Why don't you want to explain why someone should study ancient Greek grammar before reading Heidegger?

>> No.18596227

>>18595847
>>18596213
holy shit you retarded zoomer. dont post in threads you know nothing about the relevant topic. And learn to lurk faggot.

>> No.18596248

>>18596227
I just want to know why you implied the guy who asked about the connection between ancient Greek grammar and Heidegger was stupid. Also why shouldn't someone who doesn't know something not ask about it? You want people to remain ignorant? Why not just explain what you meant

>> No.18596284

>>18596248
Fuck off back to pleddit newfag.

This is not the place to get spoonfed.

>> No.18596343

>>18596248
If you know what the word "Heidegger" means you should know what he meant. Use Google. Stop thinking it's other people's job to explain things to you just so you don't feel stupid.

>> No.18596355

>>18595088
It's the medium through which Heidegger inquires into the question of being and an important vehicle in his works.
>>18596248
You can see the connection in the first 10 pages of the Introduction and the first 50 pages of BaT, so it's a question that shows extreme ignorance, yes.

>> No.18596375

>>18596284
Why not? People who want to know stuff can't ask about it in a place where people are already talking about it?
>>18596343
Yeah I know and I did because I know nothing about Heidegger, but the guy who asked about what the connection is between ancient Greek grammar and Heidegger deserved an answer instead of an arrogant reply implying he was stupid for not knowing what the first guy was saying. But apparently Heidegger fans are cunts and/or trannies by the look of OP's pic

>> No.18596397

>>18596343
>If you know what the word "Heidegger" means you should know what he meant
The word doesn't mean shit, at least not in German

>> No.18596427

Glad to see the tides turning against Heidegger here.

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>Heidegger is a good example of how nothing is left but a number of ridiculous photographs and a number of even more ridiculous writings. Heidegger was a philosophical market crier who only brought stolen goods to the market, everything of Heidegger's is second-hand, he was and is the prototype of the re-thinker, who lacked everything, but truly everything, for independent thinking. Heidegger's method consisted in the most unscrupulous turning of other people's great ideas into small ideas of his own, that is a fact. Heidegger has so reduced everything great that it has become German-compatible, you understand: German-compatible, Reger said. Heidegger is the petit bourgeois of German philosophy, the man who has placed on German philosophy his kitschy night-cap, that kitschy black night-cap which Heidegger always wore, on all occasions. Heidegger is the carpet-slipper and night-cap philosopher of the Germans, nothing else. I don't know why, Reger said yesterday, whenever I think of Stifter I also think of Heidegger and the other way about. Surely it is no accident, Reger said, that Heidegger just as Stifter has always been popular, and is still popular, mainly with those tense women, and just as those fussy do-gooding nuns and those fussy do-gooding nurses devour Stifter as their fovourite dish, in a manner of speaking, so they also devour Heidegger. Heidegger to this day is the favourite philosopher of German womanhood. Heidegger is the women's philosopher the specially suitable luncheon philosopher straight from the scholars' frying pan. When you come to a petit-bourgeois or even an aristocratic-petit-bourgeois party, you are very often served Heidegger even before the hors-d'oeuvre, you have not even taken off your overcoat and already you are being offered a piece of Heidegger, you have not even sat down and already the lady of the house has brought Heidegger in with the sherry on a silver salver. Heidegger is invariably a well-cooked German philosophy which may be served anywhere and at any time, Reger said, in any household. I do not know of any philosopher today who has been more degraded, Reger said. Anyway, Heidegger is finished as far as philosophy is concerned, whereas ten years ago he was still the great thinker, he now, as it were, only haunts pseudo-intellectual households and pseudo-intellectual parties, adding an artificial mendaciousness to their entirely natural one. Like Stifter, Heidegger is a tasteless and readily digestible reader's pudding for the mediocre German mind.

>> No.18596587

>>18596427
Heidegger has never been popular here. He has defenders, myself included, but I can't think of a single thread related to him that hasn't been at least 40% people popping in just to call him a pseud or a charlatan.

>> No.18596594

>>18596587
Maybe on Reddit. Here, I've heard him called the based Nazi philosopher

>> No.18596607

>>18596594
Virtually nobody says that and nobody should say that. Whats your angle here?

>> No.18596611

>>18596587
It's mostly been me shitting on him lately.

>> No.18596614

>>18596607
> pretending 4chan isn't wehraboo central

>> No.18596623

>>18596614
>calling anyone a "Wehraboo"

Yeah, speaking of Reddit, you need to go back.

>> No.18596685

>>18596594
The problem isn't he was a nazi, the problem is he was a pseud and a charlatan.

>> No.18597687

>>18594847
W-Why is Jung on there?

>> No.18597739

>>18594726
doesn't even have the decency to shave before fag posting. shame on you.

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>>18594847
>The Kybaloin
>Advanced

>> No.18598623

>>18594726
>Wrong translation

>> No.18598637

>>18596458
You beat me to it.

>> No.18598716

>>18594726
What does /heidi/ think of Heidegger's critique of Wagner? This was the exchange in a /his/ thread:

>I never understood Heidegger's dislike of Wagner.
>Wagner was far closer to him in his love of Germany and antisemitism than Nietzsche, and the Ring cycle and Meistersinger are the closest Germans ever came to articulating the dangers of technology and value of dwelling before Heidegger. Tristan und Isolde is practically Heraclitean as well.
then, replying
>as far as I know Heidegger critiqued Wagners Operas for not beeing able to trancend the limitation of Music, and therefor be stuck in a sort of superficial aestheticism
>contrary to this, Heidegger believed in Poetry instead of Music to be at the center of origin of the Greek Drama, therefor it is superior as an art
then another anon
>Heidegger has to rearrange Nietzsche's history a bit to portray Schopenhauer and Wagner as the early negative influence which Nietzsche would later reject. In doing so he recognises Wagner's belief that Greek tragedy was a product of both music and poetry equally (Gesamtkunstwerk), but does not take into account that it was Nietzsche who first stated that the origin of Greek tragedy was music.

Is this accurate to Heidegger's beliefs? If so, why did he believe music couldn't not be superficial? Did he say anything about the place of poetry in Wagner's art then?

>> No.18598758

>>18596458
Based
Fuck this German manlet

>> No.18598791

>>18594947
>>18594997
Scruton really liked a lot some of Heidegger though. See:

https://youtu.be/xoybTk6TEX4?t=1189

>> No.18600268

>>18594847
Jung is nowhere near as hard is the books in Advanced tier

>> No.18601371

>>18596685
Filtered

>> No.18602098

>>18594726
The National Socialist version of Jung?

>> No.18602171

>>18602098
Jung if he were a german national would have been a national socialist, so the comparison makes no sense.

>> No.18602187

>>18602171
Think he would have made any difference in the outcome - assuming he had his theories?

>> No.18603619

>>18594847
Interesting, so /sci/ discusses philosophy then?

>> No.18603626

>>18602098
But Jung was a national socialist for a time.

He was German enough to sympathise with it, for the "spell" to be cast over him, but still Swiss enough to be a neutral onlooker.