/lit/ - Literature

Should I start with pic related or is it a meme?

actual neet reporting in
how old are you OP

>>18575992
The only thing I can say to you is:
Learn a tradeable skill.

By: Another neet

>>18575992
Start by reading anything. No one book will save you, you gotta set small frequent goals and push yourself to achieve them.
Former neet here

>>18575992
Go outside

>>18576478
24 years old
>>18576586
I'm aiming for some certs and half assing the lern2code meme, the problem is my habits are total fucked up and going to be at 4 am - sleep till 11
In general just waste massive amounts of time browsing with my phone in bed or sitting on front of the computer
Combined I probably average about 12 hours of internet usage daily
However I had some months where I used to be an avid reader but I can't get out of this degenerate habit loop of shitpositing/cooming/browsing
>>18576701
>Former neet here
How did you managed to escape?
>>18576701
I'm trying but when some old friends write me I always flunk out because since dropping out of college 2 years ago I haven't done anything at all and I'm ashamed

>>18576815
Volunteer at a shelter. Also you can do something called reversed transfer if you were in your junior year.

You posted it.

>>18576815
>24 years old
pffft what I would give to restart back at that age. unless you have been neet since high school I wouldn't accept you as an actual neet.
>duh guise what books do I need to read
you don't need to read a book at age fucking 24 to get out of "neet"
but it sure is fuck isn't jordan peterson
get your shit squared away within the week. I'm not joking. do it fucking right now or you will end up as old as I am and be in the same situation still. be active and proactive right now you little faggot. get any fucking job. go now

>>18577501
also you are in fucking peak clown world. holy fuck I wish I was your age at peak clown world because there is literally no shame. you can get a job anywhere with no fucking shame. fuck you

Books:
Atomic Habits
Deep Work
How Not to Die

Getting good habits: sleep, study, work, diet etc. is the most important thing.

Also checkout:
https://www.freecodecamp.org/

Good luck, it is what it is.

>>18576815
If I were 24 again, I’d try hard to make a living writing or doing anything creative. I’d work labor for a day job. Getting an actual career is unironically the biggest mistake of my life.

>>18577652
Ok Bukowski

>>18575992
Undoing Yourself With Energized Meditation And Other Devices

http://reichiantherapy.info/

>>18577501

What's your story, anon? How old are you?

>>18577652

Depending on the country, to combine a day job with anything else (creative) is quite difficult as you're all drained of energy most of the time.

>>18577501
>pffft what I would give to restart back at that age. unless you have been neet since high school I wouldn't accept you as an actual neet.
the problem is that people were saying this when I was 22 year old and I feel if I dont fundamentally change something I will be 28 years old while being still in the same position
>get your shit squared away within the week. I'm not joking. do it fucking right now or you will end up as old as I am and be in the same situation still.
the problem is I had several episodes where I thought I will change and I actually managed to make some steps forward (good scheduled day in advance), however I always come back to my degenerate habits
>>18577506
>peak clown world, no shame
well I realised that latelty how one of my friends who is a complete grade a larper got a top position despite barely knowing anything in this field - he is working there now for a year and even managed to get a bonus
>>18577652
>creative work
I always enjoyed working with shapes and fonts but I think this field is a heavily overstated so Im thinking about going into the web dev meme

>>18575992
Read Siege.

A book won't get you a job but it will make life a little more pleasant when you read it after a hard day of wageslavery. If you're a hiki level neet then just grab hold of any chance to work that you get.

bumperino

>>18576815
Started with a local part time job living at my mom's to save some money, saved by not spending on anything except cheap leisure stuff and occasional snacks, pretty much didnt do anything except work and read/vidya/sleep, bought a used car to commute for a better job and to see some friends, got some more money and am investing a little into stocks, etc

Still living at home but trying to get enough salary to move out somewhere nearby and im gonna apply to grad schools this fall (with the hopes of scholarships or funding) bc im no longer in a massive haze. What helped the most was writing daily to do lists for myself even if it was "go for a walk, go to work, watch a movie, listen to an album, write a poem, etc"
As much as i wanted to rely on my friends and family and philosophy for support, i knew that i was the only one who could help myself - but once you make that realization it gets easier, the only other obstacle is not burning out

You should seriously consider doing night school. I know a lot of people who got bachelors as adults at night college, never too late

>>18575992
Unironically get professional help, my life improved dramatically after I started reading some books 'aimed at professionals'. Took me something like 4 years to get out of it. You can probably do the same thing with professional help in something like 3 or 4 months.

>>18580468
And you will definitely get better results, because it is not like I'm a decent pro after reading one book in a subject.

>>18580463
Also my dad who detoxes drug addicts tells all his patients that between 18 and 28 youre supposed to fuck up your life. Despite growing up poor, being nearly illiterate and flunking out of undergrad, he still managed to get his shit together and go to med school abroad

>>18575992
>I have a massive internet addiction and waste 9 hours daily shitposting/watching youtube videos/ just consooming content
Here's a radical idea anon. Turn off your PC and phone, then don't turn them on for a week. Give that type of life a trial run and see what happens. Ponder the results. Then go from there.

>>18575992
First things first, abstain from the internet (completely) for 3-4 weeks. 'Dopamine detox' is a meme but this can help you get out of a rut in the first instance, you will find yourself naturally starting to do more productive things to fill your time.

Then start reading books, do a small amount of exercise daily, sleep well, eat healthy, go out of your way to socialise, the usual shit. For money, do your research, think of ways you can add value to society. "Jobs" and "careers" are slave shit. I am fairly successful in a skilled profession and I hate it, I am working on starting multiple businesses so I can leave that wagecuck shit behind. Good luck friend.

Just get a job. It's that easy. You'll start working and get into a schedule. It won't be fun, but you may get some satisfaction from working for your daily bread. If you're about to be cut off the NEET teat, now is the time. I was NEET for six months after uni but just got two part time jobs. One is online that I can do from home, one is manual labour with my brother. Not as nice as NEETing but it's better than homelessness or worrying about money every day.

>>18580463
>night school
yeah im thinking about enrolling into one next semester, however first I need to fix my terrible habits or I will get btfod
>>18580468
>professional help
the stigma around going to a shrink and my autistic greed prevented from continuing to go to one (paid 110€ for the first session)
however I realized that I lost too much time already and my tens of thousands wont help me much in the future if I dont change myself
>>18580532
>>18580638
>turn off the internet
always get massive fomo when I try to reduce usage and end up again glued to the screen
seriously think I need to go full cold turkey

>>18580761
You should consider getting back, anon. Not even joking, maybe a psychologist. If you are that adamant about not getting help, you can always read an intro to psychology book and read some book about therapy. I did that, and while it is not the ideal approach, I wouldn't say that it was nocive to me. It is just the slow and bad way of doing things when there are easier routes, but this is definitely better than nothing.

>>18580963
I'm going to list here what helped ME out during this whole thing and consider this mainly a report of MY case. You are free to try those out yourself, but again, I'm not a pro and you should definitely get pro help.

Ayahuasca (particularly a Brazilian Christian syncretist church called Santo Daime). I don't think I would recommend you trying this one with anyone, and absolutely don't try it if you are on meds;
drawing (I started using that book drawing with the right side of the brain. This is probably what a pro would call occupational therapy) and getting into college;
writing (starting a journal definitely helped me a lot, there are two books by James Pennebaker about that, check them both);
yoga and exercises (I think yoga gets the upper hand on this one because of breathing exercises, dunno how, but I developed some weird breathing patterns);
headache meds (aspirines, I used to take a bunch back when I started, but they just work, and it is not like I'm always in pain, but it is like I take one and things just start to happen. This is a bit weird, because my house used to be a mess, and I tried to keep it tidy. Nowadays, it is still a bit messy, way less than it used to, but the thing is that 'I'm not even trying', those things are somewhat happening naturally);
philosophy (this was mainly because of some personal issues, but reading a history of philosophy textbook definitely helped me to put my head in check and get things going for me);
intro to psychology classes in college plus a book on CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy, I recommend that CBT: basics and beyond by Judith Beck).

>>18576815
You aren't going to make it. The fact you go to sleep at 4 am instead of waking up then shows you don't care and all this is just talk. You also watch anime. You should consider getting a psychiatric evaluation as you seem mentally ill.

>>18581082
Oh, and nutrition. My mom didn't used to put salt on our food. Consider eating healthy, anon. Fresh fruits at least 2 times a week and everything else. Eventually you will start to crave those, then go with it. You might also go with that Taleb traditional meals thing, that is probably not a bad idea, getting those at least once a week and seeing how it goes. There are supplements too, those that people use to get /fit/, consider trying those out too. I do use those and they kinda help.

stop thinking and just show up repeatedly to work, turn your brain off

>>18581082
This 'I'm not even trying' thing just happened. I took an aspirine like 2 hours ago or something, and I just did a lot of dishes and cleaned the kitchen. It is not even like I was actively thinking about it, I just did it. Before I started taking those, I used to make lists and a bunch of other crap, and it was really hard to do anything, now it is like my day is worth a week.

>>18575992
Here's someone with the same issue you have:
You won't really change. Just find a modern lifestyle that adapts to what you are.
Keep on half-assing some skill that at least manages to retain your interest and work towards validating those self-studies in some way, then be aggressive at applying for all jobs from home that require it until eventually one fateful day someone hires your lazy ass. The pay will be barely enough to live and the work will be menial in all the worst ways, we're talking actual side-gig tier shit here, but you'll at least be able to support a frugal but comfortable lifestyle that adapts to your procrastinative needs and your lacking ability to focus (the latter which can be slightly remedied with the helps of nicotine and alcohol) until you eventually decide to either chase a true passion burning from within (that might develop over time) or to off yourself at long last, because you'll realize the alternative is merely drifting through life in increasingly worse conditions and concessions you otherwise wouldn't make in mere cowardice, a fuel that regrettably doesn't get you too far as a schizoid.
Best of luck. I started learning foreign languages at your age and I make a living lazily translating various forms of media for meager pay which is barely enough to sustain myself in a third-world shithole where life is relatively cheap. Perhaps coding would fare better.

>>18581402
Also, most self-help books won't work. They are aimed towards healthy people, you are sick, it is that simple. I wouldn't even bother with them.

>>18581402
And clean your house a bit, anon. I bet that shit is a fucking mess. This is what you are going to do, start by throwing garbage away. I bet you have a bunch of paper and packings of shit scattered everywhere. Get a trash bag now and throw that shit in it. Then you get into putting it outside.