/lit/ - Literature

>>18560068
>Arktos Media is a publishing company known for publishing authors of the European New Right, as well as translating European far-right literature into English.
kek why do rightfags think this has anything to do with their faggotry? they won't read beyond the title.

Spengler: a) didn't like the nazis and their retarded racial views. b) had a metaphysical concept of blood/race that was basically about people of various backgrounds marching together towards a single goal, rather than a strictly biological/racialist view and, c) was part jewish

I would suggest to post these in /pol/ but i remembered those guys don't read

>>18560102
cool, your point being? I didn't make this thread to be political.
Nonetheless, Spengler was a part of the conservative revolution in Germany. Not every right winger is a NatSoc, you deranged leftie
>>18560106
>everything that is to the right of me is /pol/
they really do live in your head, uh?

>>18560314
>your point being?
that it's published by a far right publishing house yet it contradicts the core aspects of their worldview

>>18560336
I'd say the wikipedia article is partly false; Arktos also publishes third positionist and Traditionalist literature.
One other thing: you don't know much about the New Right, do you? They try (mostly for optics) to distance themselves from political movements of the first half of the 20th century.

>>18560336
the new right is much closer to the conservative revolution than the nazis ideologically

>>18560102
Widely regarded as an author of the 20th century’s conservative revolution. You’re misinformed or plain ignorant if you can’t see why they’d want to publish it.

>>18560371
>>18560373
>>18560382
>as well as translating European far-right literature into English.
was referring to this

Its about goddamn time

why are you acting like this is monumental when it’s already published and you can get it off amazon for cheap

>>18560416
>>18560416
anything to the "right" (a bourgeois concept) of wikipedia is literally the heckin' far-right, didn't you know?
Again: they translate things, which are perceived by shitlibs who can't discriminate, to be right wing. It can be Evola, who was against the NSDAP or Pentti Linkola, a deep ecologist.
>>18560472
This edition is the complete, non-abridged version of the book. Many people on here have been forward to it.

>Spengler thread devolves into people arguing about directions
Sad but predictable

>>18560068
Fuck off shill.

>>18560472
I downloaded it for free and read it on my kobo years ago.

Pretty sure this is a shill thread.
You know you're desperate when you're shilling chantards. It's hardly a lucrative endeavour.

>>18560507
I know, didn't intend on it being like this. But some people just like to "Reductio ad Hitlerum", for some reason.

>>18560523
Spengler has been reduced to the level of Gardner. Truly, the West has indeed declined.

>>18560102
Low tier bait

>>18560068
Decline of the West is not really what you think it would be from the title. I'd argue it's barely relevant in the current political or cultural climate anymore.

>>18560535
b-but my edgy imaginary book

>>18560526
>Reductio ad Hitlerum
Kek

>>18560526
>Reductio ad Hitlerum
This doesn't apply when the author at hand met with Hitler himself (and disliked him).

>>18560519
>>18560523
mate, I saw this on twitter;
I, and other anons, have been waiting for this edition to come out for a while now.
>>18560535
again, I didn't make it to be political

I just want more Alain de Benoist

>>18560555
you can’t be more obvious of a shill, you literally said “BY ARKTOS MEDIA” instead of “by Oswald Spencer”
gtfo.

>>18560102
that's just metaphysical cope to turn a blind eye to an actual biological materialist view.
The same way evola coped with the race of the spirit

This is a new translation as well?

>>18560554
Yes, but he must be compared to Hitler (or the NSDAP) because.... he's right wing (not talking about Decline, but his other writings).
>>18560557
I've been meaning to read "Beyond human rights", is it good?

>>18560555
>twitter
Then go back there, fucking shill
People have bought it already from amazon or did this >>18560523

>>18560336
>>18560102
>basically ''you guys...''' bait
newfag go back

>>18560566
>muh cope
That's what he believed. All the rest is you projecting your /pol/fag views.

>>18560577
>frogposter
>having audacity to call anyone newfag
Oh the ironing

>>18560589
yes

>>18560573
>"is it good?"
Yes

>>18560568
just checked and apparently not.

>>18560596
>oh the ironing
what did the newfag mean by this

>>18560565
>>18560574
lol, I don't know what to say to you. I'm not a shill, I'm just interested in the book. The reason why I put "Arktos" is because it's the editor who's saying it's coming out soon.
>>18560568
The twitter post said "Atkinson's translation"
>>18560602
ok, thanks

>>18560625
Shut the fuck up shill and go back with your funkopops-tier consoomerist bullshite.

>>18560646
no, (You)

>>18560625
>>18560670
shill faggot

>>18560670
Yeah add the screenshot of this thread of your shilling into this GIF and it will fit right in there perfectly

>>18560682
>>18560695
last (You), take meds you neurotic cunts

>>18560068
Nice covers. Arktos covers are usually too fucking in your face about the publishers far-right beliefs/aesthetics.

>>18560068
Looks like the Dutch translation by publishing house Boom

>>18560735
TOVRO... EU AJOELHO-ME

>>18560898
TOVROS DO MEDITERRÂNEO, UNIDOS! (exceto Costa e companhia)

>>18560068
Nice, eagerly awaiting when they get rights to print Camp of Saints

>>18560102
Well they mention the New Right, which doesn't exist in the US, but it has a lot of intellectuals in Europe and it is not a nazi movement, although they are close to fascism.

>>18560948
>Portugal
>Mediterráneo
?

>>18561226
>While not having a coastline in the Mediterranean, Portugal, Andorra, San Marino, Kosovo, Serbia, Bulgaria, North Macedonia and Jordan are often included on the list of Mediterranean countries.[2] Such classification is mostly based on their geographical, economic, geopolitical, historical, ethnic and cultural (language, art, music, cuisine) ties to the region as a whole. Other factors include climate and flora.

>>18561226
yeah this is just splitting hairs considering the identical climate and the fact that they's a romance-language speaking historically catholic nation

>>18560068
I don't actually need the physical books. If I can pirate/pay for some proper epubs then I'm happy.

>>18561556
>paying for ebooks

I read about 3/4 of volume one and realized that I had no idea what the hell he was talking about and put it aside.
I think one needs to be familiar with Western Philosophy up through Hegel to really get anything out of it

>>18560102
>Why don't the people I categorize with my journalist conjuration magic words comply with the strawman I attach to those words
Why indeed.

>>18560102
>i can't comprehend reading writers that are interesting but don't match up perfectly with my own ideology

>>18561567
These are decent intros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdYaPf4KLFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQGEuHJwun8

>>18561638
also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc2200Wh3Zw

>>18560106
you have to go back

>>18560068
sex gifs

>>18560735
>>18560898
>>18560948
Portugal no seu melhor

>>18560557
Heard his book about indoeuropeans was dogshit so I never cared to read his stuff. What is so great about him?

>>18560102
>tfw Nazis are more open minded toward different povs than leftists

>>18560102
>being right wing means you're a nazi, hate Jews and are racist
Objectively false.

>>18560102
still not getting the vaxx

DUDE WE GOTTA SAVE WESTERN CIVILIZATIONS

>>18562166
Nazis are always endgame (not in the cool marvel way) of any right wing movement. As in a self destructive death drive that ends in ruin and the leader killing themselves after it all collapses

>>18560068
this thread is awful but it's about what I expected to see when this was finally announced. I'm looking forward to getting a copy and seeing what the fuss is with this work. Also who cares if Arktos is some far right publication? What kind of brainlet chooses if they'll read a work based on who publishes it?

>>18562155
do you want a "based" or "XD" you unoriginal loser?

>>18560102
Shit they publish doesn’t have to rigidly Adhere to their ideology. the fuck are you on about?

>>18562207
just an acknowledgement that he's right

>>18562207
Oof, sounds like anon hit a nerve there

>>18562222
but i thought you guys liked nazis for being against dissent and freedom of speech.

>>18562166
> as well as translating European far-right literature into English.
>far-right

>>18562222
Quads of truth. Trannies are absolutely fucking seething right now.

>>18562229
not my fault your worldview is hellishly incompatible with the real world

>>18562155
more cucked*

>>18560106
Why are you here fag?
Go back to wherever u came from.

>>18562222
Q U A D S

>>18562237
not a liberal, you're just a manchild.

>>18560106
>Go back.
>You will never be a real woman.

>>18562244
and you're just coping

>>18562231
>Curtis Guy Yarvin (born 1973), also known by the pen name Mencius Moldbug, is an American far-right blogger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin

>>18562195
meds, now

>>18562231
where's the diss here, i don't get it?

>>18560068
>OMG THE EPIC TRADERINOOOOOO BTFOING THE HECKING LEFTIES YAAASSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

>>18562308
Not quite but that's what rightfags think by reading the title.

>>18562308
this but unironically, and it's a good thing

>>18560102
lmfao look how you triggered all the trvd larping losers that infest this site

>book that has been published for the last century is now printed by a new loser larp publisher
ok

>>18560068
>OMG I CANT WAIT TO CONSOOOOM THIS NEW SPENGLER TRANSLATION EVEN THOUGH I COULD HAVE JUST LEARNED GERMAN

>>18562308
Sounds good to me

>>18562346
weak cope

>>18562360
What cope you faggot? Jesus you couldn't even be self aware for 3 seconds to not attach your chimp out to a anime girl pic

>>18562381
owned by a cartoon bunny girl

>>18560068
MINERALS MARIE NOT ROCKS

Too bad they did not translate his posthumous works. Decline is already accessible in english.

>>18562283
>Wikipedia
F see me after class

>>18562903
My point is that mainstream sources say moldbug is far right.

>>18560068
i'm going to consoom the shit out of this and I literally already have 4 copies, one audiobook, one abridged paperback, and two different ebooks.

>>18560068
Isn't this book already in the public domain? Why the fuck is everyone so excited about it?

>>18562123
Extremely well read with the best political ideology to exist

>>18560416
The German Conservative Revolutionaries and French New Right are movements that are considered far right within the Anglosphere. GRECE (New Right's political organization) was ethnonationalist. They likewise however were opposed to Petainism and National Socialism in a strongly French way that may not be easily understandable to Americans.

Just started reading this today, it seems interesting.

>>18560102
>a) didn't like ... their retarded racial views. b) had a metaphysical concept of blood/race that was basically about people of various backgrounds marching together towards a single goal
sounds like modern day /pol/ would make his head explode

>>18562959
Know where I could find a decent epub/mobi? The ones on zlib are terribly formatted

>>18561638
that John Ebert video was very informative. thanks anon.

>>18561638
>>18563119
john david ebert has great vids on spengler but he is totally wrong about the faustian view of space though
he said that faustian civilization shouldn't worry about space, while the true spenglerian position is galactic conquest

>I wasted $100 on the Knopf edition

>>18562207
>do you want a "based" or "XD" you unoriginal loser?

>>18563414
seems like an is ought. maybe he doesn't want faustian man to worry about space but the faustian spirit is inherently drawn towards mastering the infinite

>>18561638
>>18561642
Just watched these. My only question is: what is to be done about it?

>>18563467
>Knopf
I suspect that's still the superior choice. You did good.
>>18560068
Is this translated by the same guy who sort of twisted the meaning of Spenger's analogy of the centurian in Man and Technics by using the word "race" instead of "thoroughbred"?

>>18563583
I'm fairly sure it's a republishing of the Charles Atkinson (Knopf) translation which is in the public domain

>>18560577
checked

>>18562166
Curtis is obviously racist though, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's a holocaust skeptic as well. He's undeniably one of the greatest modern intellectuals though.

>>18562184
>>18562356
>>18562357
(You)

>>18563583
It's Attinkson's which was aproved by Spengler himself.

>>18561561
I mean somebodies gotta support this shit. It's not intergender study or some french fruitcake thesis on socio blabla

>>18562195

can libwits go 5 minutes without referencing marvel?

I wonder what the price will be. You can already grab unabridged Decline from Book Depository around ~50€.

>swedish publisher
>barely ever publishes anything in swedish
We need decline of the west in Swedish, and we need it now. The good swedish ones are out of print.

>>18565595
They're located in Hunagary since 2015. But yeah, they should publish it in more european languages

>>18560557
he's only good when he's writing about other people's work

Oswald Spengler is overhyped. I wish people would stop sucking his cock.

sex gifs

>>18562308
I mean, judging by the reactions in this thread, Spengler really seems to get on your nerves lmao

>>18560068
Not trolling but what's the big hype behind this book? I see it shilled here all of the time but it's difficult to convince myself to read a 1000+ pages of something I can witness by just going outside.

>>18560535
>I'd argue it's barely relevant in the current political or cultural climate anymore.

Art, culture, and politics have stagnated, science is stagnating, we're rewriting history to suit the present moment and the political world is becoming increasingly centered around personalities. DotW is extremely relevant in the current climate.

>>18560314
This.

Paying for books is stupid. Pirate the audiobook like a smart person.
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>>18565689
>1000+ pages of something I can witness by just going outside.
You're unironically retarded if you're serious with that statement.

>>18562995
Extant unabridged editions are crud.

>>18563041
Have you read any others of his?

>>18566366
>audiobook

What an embarrassing display in this thread. Most of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

>>18560068
Does this a new translation or used a preexisting one?

>>18567457
>>18564413

>>18560102
Arktos isn't a /pol/tier, they publish authors like Julius Evola or Dugin, not usual fascist/natsoc stuff.

>>18560106
>those guys don't read the things we memory holed or burned

>>18560068
Arktos is pretty shitty as far as far-right publishers go.

>>18560068
>not already having a beautiful edition in your own language.
Try harder

>>18567750
What would you reccomend? Imperium Press?
>>18568259
Damn, it really is gorgeous...

why are leftoid so afraid

>>18566419
No

>>18568647
Not who you're responding to but honestly Imperium has better quality for similar prices, they just have a much smaller catalogue and I don't think they have any overlap so it's really not a competition. Arktos books have a bit of a cheap feel to them but they offer books that you can't get anywhere else so there's not much room to criticize.

>>18560106
Fuck off shill

>>18566387
It's a hyperbole dipshit

>>18560535
>barely relevant
Yeah maybe by CNN's standards

>>18560102
>had a metaphysical concept of blood/race that was basically about people of various backgrounds marching together towards a single goal,
lol no. Let's read something actually from the man:
>Yet for whole centuries it was possible to make a systematic defence against these conditions, because the orbis terrarum of the Roman Empire was an enclosed area with frontiers that could be guarded. The position of the present Imperium of the white nations, which embraces the whole globe and includes the coloured races, is far more difficult. White humanity has scattered itself to all quarters in its ungovernable urge to infinite distance: over both Americas, South Africa, Australia, and innumerable strategic points between. The Yellow-Brown-Black-Red menace lurks within the field of the white power. It penetrates into and participates in the military and revolutionary agreements and disagreements of the white powers and threatens one day to take matters into its own hands.
From the Hour of Decision, Part IV, "The Coloured World-Revolution."
At most you can argue he was under pressure from the authorities of the time to use such language. But even so, it's clear from other writings that Spengler did not have this subjectivist, modernist view of race.

>>18560535
Other than being at least 85% correct. But that would cast shade on the neoliberal order.

>>18562321
And leftoids don't even read the introduction.

>>18560068
ITT chudcels and lefty trannies

>>18571095
Let's talk about actual 'Literature."

>>18560102
Left wing Marxist dominated academia trying to retroactively claim philosophers as being on their team is cringe.
Nearly every single philosopher if they were alive today would be a raging right wing radical 100% convinced that Hitler did absolutely nothing wrong and would gladly demonstrate to you why that is the case using the Socratic method.

>>18560488
could've bought it on repressedpublishing 5 years ago tranny, you're all fucking retarded newfags.

>>18562222
Checked

>>18562195
>(not in the cool marvel way)
bait but still very funny

>>18560102
>Spengler: a) didn't like the nazis and their retarded racial views. b) had a metaphysical concept of blood/race that was basically about people of various backgrounds marching together towards a single goal, rather than a strictly biological/racialist view and, c) was part jewish

Confirmed for shill, you write some version of this about every philosopher/author on the right unless they were confirmed national socialists. People repeat this non-sense about Mussolini, they use a quote where he is loosely using the "race" to talk about different ethnic groups within Italy

>>18561556
Those are about to be removed within a few years, and you don't own the right to choose what is on your kindle.

>>18569292
not him but read Why We Fight later, it is Faye's best.

What the hell happened to Interregnum, it was a bit ponsy at times but they had some great guests. They haven't released anything new in a year??

>>18560068
if you seek pseudophilosophical validation for your reactionary ideology why not just read spengler?

>>18572299
Didn't know Arktos had a podcast. Imperium does and it's quite active:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCinfVjuheJWyiQjue3qfYdA

>>18560314
>they really do live in your head, uh?
there is something called pattern recognition but I don't expect that from low iq fags like you
>post muh west getting fugged
>NOOOO THIS IS NOT POLITICAL!!11!!!