[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature


View post   

File: 636 KB, 2000x1462, A760961B-50EC-41CD-81F6-D944688E2B1C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529031 No.18529031 [Reply] [Original]

Water Town Edition

Previous Thread:>>18517127

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ

>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>A link to the ultimate colossal science fiction and fantasy collection torrent
>>>/t/1023504

>Discord
Never going to be created.

>> No.18529039

sex books

>> No.18529044
File: 482 KB, 901x632, 1594415648533.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529044

>> No.18529083

>>18529044
*rapes you*
Heh, nothing personnel kid.

>> No.18529095
File: 451 KB, 901x632, final (1) final.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529095

>>18529044
why post the WIP version?

>> No.18529108

>>18529095
What's a WIP? And who is that man?

>> No.18529112

>>18529108
Wi’ p’po

>> No.18529116

>>18529112
Sorry, I don't understand degenerate.

>> No.18529117

>>18529116
clearly false since you're using english

>> No.18529118

>>18529108
work in progress, and it's the black gentleman i hired to satisfy my wife (pictured in the background)

>> No.18529122

>>18529118
Whatever gets you going.

>> No.18529126

>>18529122
I picked up the habit after reading Bakker, something I'm thankful for to this day
His books changed my life in a very profound way

>> No.18529134

>>18529126
So you got cucked by Bakker? Tell us more about it.

>> No.18529144

>>18529126
How curious. I became a bull myself. Maybe I've fucked your wife already and we didn't even share our passion for Bakker's books. It's a small world. What's you Reddit name?

>> No.18529154

>>18529031
>Discord
https://discord.com/invite/KWPCM7m

>Book Club Selection
Galactic North
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/89188.Galactic_North

> With eight short stories and novellas--including three original to this collection--Galactic North imparts the centuries-spanning events that have produced the dark and turbulent world of Revelation Space.

>> No.18529158

>>18529144
haha you might have been over, she's quite insatiable so a lot of bulls have come and gone since we started this lifestyle

>> No.18529194

I want to live in the Culture so much, litbros. Work for Special Circumstances, study alien tech and life, help our alienbros thrive, to topple dictatorships around the galaxy, befriend Minds and drones.

>> No.18529200

>>18529194
are you talking about these books?
https://www.goodreads.com/series/49118-culture
I've seen the word culture thrown around a few times but never bothered looking into them

>> No.18529204

Recs for the feel of watching another man fuck your wife?

>> No.18529217

>>18529204
Your diary.

>> No.18529219

>>18529217
Where can I read your diary?

>> No.18529231

>>18529219
Your wife's diary will tell you everything you need to know about me and your step children.

>> No.18529232

>>18529231
Stop following me around, Tyquil.

>> No.18529234

>>18529200
Yes. I'm reading the third one on that list right now: Use of Weapons. I read Player of Games and Consider Phlebas already, just this year. I'm hooked, baby.

>> No.18529236

>>18529232
I can't
I fell in love with your wife, and I think she feels the same

>> No.18529241

>>18529234
Sounds interesting, I want to read them now, do I just follow the release order?

>> No.18529243
File: 15 KB, 220x289, 1610277942832.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529243

How can one man be this based and trigger incels and cucks alike?

>> No.18529250

>>18529243
I'm an incel cuck. I can only watch men fuck girls on my computer.

>> No.18529252
File: 202 KB, 1080x1351, 1619543753125.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529252

>>18529243
They see too much of Achamian in themselves. Just like females do for Esmenet.

>> No.18529272

>>18529241
If you liked that thing about toppling dictatorships, start with Player of Games, otherwise follow the chronological order and start with Consider Phlebas, just know that in this one the main character hate the Culture and is working against it and the book slowly but surely deconstruct this a bit later (albeit the Culture is not without its flaws despite the utopic vibe). The other books are offer more insight into the civilization and departs from this outsider POV.

>> No.18529276

>>18529272
alright, thanks

>> No.18529281

>>18529252
Where's the dick?

>> No.18529282

>>18529281
Inside your wife.

>> No.18529288

>>18529282
I don't have a wife.

>> No.18529289

>>18529288
not anymore

>> No.18529291
File: 65 KB, 1015x1024, 1618186328879.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529291

>>18529289

>> No.18529301

>>18529289
No, not since I found out she was male to female tranny with a BLACKED fetish. I hope she's having safe sex, considering she contracted super AIDS from getting her axe wound slammed by a pack of knee growths.

>> No.18529305
File: 366 KB, 800x930, CFD67D56-8770-4B39-A3C6-EA6D0BA7F198.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529305

Bakkerchads, have you read Berserk?

>> No.18529308

>>18529301
We accept your surrender.

>> No.18529315
File: 164 KB, 520x761, 5E451FD1-7084-4D58-814A-8329E365B8B4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529315

>>18529305
If not, you should. It’s very Bakkeresque.
Fuck animetrannies though.

>> No.18529317

>>18529289
Based.
>>18529301
Cringe.

>> No.18529321

>>18529308
>>18529317
t. actual homosexuals

>> No.18529344

>>18529301
You need to be 18 to post here.

>> No.18529356
File: 824 KB, 450x654, VampireLady-LCJW-EN-C-1E.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529356

The general knowledge is that the genre(s) are overflooded with Zombies, to the point that they're practically unpublishable. If your manuscript has zombies in it, then you're in the trashcan.

But WHAT the fuck is a zombie? /sffg/ what do you consider a zombie? Are all undead zombies? At what point is an undead fantasy creature no longer the type of zombie that publishers mention they want no more of?

>> No.18529361

>>18529356
only magic ones are zombies
virus ones are infected

>> No.18529384

>>18529344
Then why are you still here? To cuckpost?

>> No.18529403

>>18529236
Tyquil I need to warn you, before you do something rash, that women are incapable of feeling that emotion.

>> No.18529428
File: 1.43 MB, 1810x917, 1611653822251.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529428

>> No.18529431

>>18529428
No, I'm not a sandersöy. Now move aside and watch while I fuck your wife.

>> No.18529437
File: 520 KB, 700x500, 1624515566035.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529437

>character murders someone every few pages
>acts cool and above it all
>offers scathing commentary on religion, politics, ethics, and how stupid and meaningless it all is
>generally nihilistic about everything

>still stops to morally lecture people in between atrocities
>burns with indignation when someone does bad things to them or people they like
>has their own set of arbitrary religious, political, and ethical beliefs
>routinely violates them

N-N-N-N-NAME THAT BOOK

>> No.18529480

>>18529437
The Way of Cucks

>> No.18529607

>>18529305
Stop reading when a black dude raped Guts up the ass.

>> No.18529674
File: 73 KB, 461x545, black-sneed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18529674

>>18529044

>> No.18529752

>>18529607
It's what sparked Guts' love for large objects. Hugely important character development right there.

>> No.18529985

So what are you guy's favorite plot types? Everything is a quest but what kind of quest?

War?
Rescue?
Solve the mystery?
Survival?
Heist?
Romance?

>> No.18530042

>>18529985
I would read more romance oriented fantasy if I knew what were considered good ones. Other than that I'm a warfag when it comes to fantasy and a dystopia/social commentary fag when it comes to science fiction.

>> No.18530087

>>18530042
There's this >booktuber, emmie, that likes fantasy romance and gives recommendations once in a while

>> No.18530123
File: 92 KB, 863x600, 1*K9lt4Eu29H3Wn-aVdrEzxA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18530123

what is it with this dude and bugs?

>> No.18530177

>>18530123
At least he doesn't write cuck shit.

>> No.18530182

>>18530123
https://twitter.com/aptshadow/status/1276589090008379393

>> No.18530242

>>18530177
>he doesn't know

>> No.18530339

>>18529095
Finally a picture that truly represents my passion for Bakker
Truth shines! ;)

>> No.18530348

>>18529204
The Prince of Nothing, by R Scott Bakker

>> No.18530610

>>18529428
She looks like she reads.

>> No.18530667

>>18530242
Dawn of the Guns?

>> No.18530679

>>18530667
>cucks of the dawn

>> No.18530689

Seething Bakker-haters have turned this general into /cuck/ with their cringe autistic obsession.

>> No.18530691

>>18530689
Haters?
we love Bakker

>> No.18530695

>>18530691
>instantaneous response
Like I said... autistic obsession.
Imagine being this petty.
Post your favorite Kellhus quip.

>> No.18530697

>>18530695
When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Jove's fair image Man was shap'd at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next design'd;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Fill'd it with vice, and call'd the thing a Nigger.

>> No.18530741

>>18530697
>posts lovekek
involuntary celibate cuckold detected

>> No.18530747

>>18530741
I fuck 3/10 jews every single day of the week.

>> No.18530837
File: 55 KB, 564x751, 1606336125877.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18530837

>>18529095
I read darkness that comes before because I had heard it was visceral but I didn't really get a sense of humanity out of the characters. It's all just sad bastards seething over being impotent or something similar. Is there any good fantasy which has violence and sexual abuse but still has occasional scenes of tenderness, brats being cheeky, and so on?

>> No.18530843

>>18530837
>It's all just sad bastards seething over being impotent or something similar
*camera pans out, the /sffg/ thread in full view now as the shot lingers*

>> No.18530851

>>18529437
aragorn son of arathorn

>> No.18530916

Wheel of Time or the Cosmere, which do I commit to?

>> No.18530920
File: 1.78 MB, 1482x750, throne-of-glass.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18530920

Can I recommend Throne of Glass to everyone?

It's the best series I've ever read.

>> No.18530948

>>18529031
How the fuck am I supposed to find new shit to read on Good Reads? It's like everyone just reads whatever is newly released.

>> No.18530978

>>18530920
Does the protagonist fuck anyone?

>> No.18530986

What are your favourite books that are examples of good language and sentence structure? Too many modern fantasy/SciFi books read like they're written for idiots (especially if they are marketed as "young/new adult").
I'm not looking for me bigbrain reading, just something that actually builds sentences rather than slapping words together like in an elementary school writing assignment.

>> No.18531008

>>18530978
Hell yes!

>> No.18531012

>>18530986
I've always found Sanderson's prose to be great.
So Mistborn is probably the one for you!

>> No.18531045
File: 350 KB, 1400x1995, urasekai_picnic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18531045

Are there any horror books with a similar feel to otherside picnic? Most horror obviously takes place in dreary or transparently malevolent settings, but an empty meadow on a summer day can be unnerving in it's own unique way given the right framing. I think the manga tapped into that well. And there's also something appealing about alternate worlds with strange rules in horror.

>> No.18531047

>>18531045
Nope, doesn't exist.
Sorry I couldn't help you.

>> No.18531054

>>18529437
Conan the Cimmerian excluding nihlistic nonsense which makes him the chaddest of all chads.

>> No.18531059

>>18531047
That's ok, thanks for responding!

>> No.18531065

>>18529031
>"Fantasy Art"
>Why the fuck are there canals going between the buildings when they could move their boats around the buildings?

>> No.18531084

>>18531065
To not mingle with the commoners.

>> No.18531165
File: 75 KB, 507x720, hell yeah motherfucker.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18531165

>>18531008

>> No.18531314

Any good books with a little girl protagonist?

>> No.18531338

>>18531314
Lewis Carroll's Alice books.

>> No.18531356
File: 227 KB, 1440x2092, 18134EB8-B699-4B8B-9E19-1E60AB21FE4B.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18531356

>>18529031

>> No.18531927

>>18530689
Bakker haters unironically love interracial cuck porn. I never felt so proud for loving Bakker.

>> No.18531931

>>18530837
We clearly didn't read the same book.

>> No.18531935
File: 37 KB, 600x392, 1598859305947.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18531935

>>18531012
>Sanderson
>Prose

>> No.18531941

>>18530837
Malazan, First Law.

>> No.18531949

>>18531935
I wish I lived on a crab

>> No.18531951
File: 179 KB, 1000x1334, 1602162274642.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18531951

>>18531012
>I've always found Sanderson's prose to be great.

>> No.18531960

>>18531951
I wish I was a stick.

>> No.18532003

>>18531935
>>18531951
haha wow look passages devoid of context! i hate sanderson now!

>> No.18532005

>>18532003
We accept that you have bad taste in books.

>> No.18532007

If R. Scott Bakker is so good, how come he has no TV-series based on his books?

>> No.18532031

>>18532005
you know what, you're right
give me the most joyless humorless miserable fantasy book ever penned please, so i may at last indulge in some quality literature

>> No.18532038

>>18532007
There is absolutely no correlation between being a good writer and having a TV Series.

>> No.18532047

currently reading 'king of thorns.' mark lawrence is actually a decent author. has anyone else read his stuff?

>> No.18532049
File: 700 KB, 920x900, 1612438258203.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18532049

>you know what, you're right
>give me the most joyless humorless miserable fantasy book ever penned please, so i may at last indulge in some quality literature

>> No.18532052

>>18532031
You're already miserable. That's the reason why you base your sense of humor on the books you're reading.

>> No.18532059

>>18532052
I don't even like Sanderson's humor, especially not when he tries to make one of his characters sound witty only to fail miserably time and again but those moments are relatively few and the rest of the story is well worth it

>> No.18532065

has anyone else given up on sanderson due to him pandering to the mentally ill crowd with his usage of gender-neutral language and faggot characters?

>> No.18532067

>>18532065
Sanderson was always anime, but his last two SLA books were absolute unreadable hot garbage.

>> No.18532094

what the fuck is up with the cuck shit

>> No.18532126

>>18532094
You may have her body, but I have her heart

>> No.18532229

I always imagine that Sanderson characters are constantly making Dreamworks faces

>> No.18532315

>>18531951
>>18531935
Reading that made me not want to read anything.
How do people who write like this get published?

>> No.18532323

>>18531065
My guess is the buildings only exist in the first place to hold up the canals.

>> No.18532423

Any sci Fi series with clever uses of science? The Black Domain concept was neat.

>> No.18532472
File: 119 KB, 800x790, 1611776873893s.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18532472

>>18532007
There is one though, it came out last year on HBO. Jeffrey Wright was perfectly cast as Achamian, and Skarsgard excelled as Kellhus. I loved the art design of the Nansurian cities. And the old-school live-action puppets rather than CGI for the Inchoroi was awesome.

>> No.18532700

>>18531935
That's pretty well written though.
Not everything has to be super purple.

>> No.18532712

>>18532315
Sanderson got rejected 7 times in a row before he got his first book published.
He's an incredibly hard worker with zero talent.

>> No.18532714

>>18532031
The standard last refuge of a brainlet, a false dichotomy.

>> No.18532720

>>18532714
Oh look, it happened yet again. >>18532700

>> No.18532721

>>18532031
the second apocalypse by r scott bakker
it's joyless and miserable but also kind of funny desu

>> No.18532753

Give me some good scifi books about quantum physics.

I really enjoyed the Quantum Series by Douglas Phillips: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54175528-the-quantum-series-books-1---3

>> No.18532901
File: 14 KB, 882x758, 1606539724226.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18532901

>>18532003
>NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! STOP CRITICIZING SANDERSON!!!!
>THOSE EXAMPLES DON'T COUNT!!!!

>> No.18533309

Is "the way of kings" a good book? A friend recomended it to me.
Any other good books of contemporary fantasy?

>> No.18533361

>>18530986
Gene Wolfe has great prose in pretty much all of his works

>> No.18533371

>>18529437
Women writing badass male protagonists. The majority of adventure-focused fanfiction

>> No.18533375

>>18532901
obsessed

>> No.18533391

>>18530986
Why don't you read poetry then? Why are you slumming it in genre fiction if you want prose art? That's like going into a K Mart and asking where the tailored Armani suits are.

>> No.18533413

>>18530837
Malazan. It can be a disorienting, exhausting read though. Particularly the last few books.

>> No.18533442

>>18530916
Cosmere series can be read independently of each other and you don't have to read all of them if you don't want to. So if you are scared of committing then that would be your choice cause you can read a complete story in a couple books instead of having to commit to over a dozen huge novels. WoT though is a single continuous narrative stretched over 14 door stopper books. A lot of people who try to read it give up between books 6 and 9.

>> No.18533449
File: 48 KB, 1080x607, fb7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18533449

>>18531935
>>18531951
Pretty funny and great characterization. This is why I really enjoy Sanderson.
Dalinar is one of the most gigachad characters I've ever read, his story is great.
>>18533309
The audiobook is of very high quality, so if you like audiobooks, I recommend doing it that way. The Way of Kings deserves its exceptional length, but I personally did find some of the middle bridge crew arch a little stifling, but not overly so because of the other POVs we switch to and the slightly nonlinear story. It's also not like nothing happens in those parts, either. The pace is really good for such a long book. Once I was finished with the audiobook, I bought both The Way of Kings and Words of Radiance in hardback right away.

>> No.18533455

>>18533375
We accept your surrender.

>> No.18533469
File: 53 KB, 644x800, 1604398327639.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18533469

>Pretty funny and great characterization. This is why I really enjoy Sanderson.
>Dalinar is one of the most gigachad characters I've ever read, his story is great.

>> No.18533491
File: 2.66 MB, 4032x3024, 1598230174278.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18533491

>>18533309
Too expensive for toilet paper.

>> No.18533499

>>18533309
The first 2 books are ok, if you're into anime. The last 2 are absolute Dogshit though.

>> No.18533508
File: 289 KB, 1101x836, 1597278840893.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18533508

Ups! Wrong picture, sorry.

>> No.18533540
File: 25 KB, 474x474, 1574324824207.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18533540

>>18533491
>sends 23 and a half bucks to sanderson, his publishers, and amazon
>damages the product he purchased after receiving it, potentially after also paying shipping fees and taxes
Honestly, kinda based retard status. you really showed them lmao

>> No.18533542
File: 652 KB, 814x1250, 9781473212022.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18533542

>>18529031
Are any of Patricia McKillip's books worth reading? Some of them look like comfy YA.

>> No.18533569

>>18533542
I think the vast majority of McKillip's works is comfy YA.
Her writing's of great quality though.

Tanith Lee if you want similar quality but less comfy.

Peater Beagle if you need a man.

>> No.18533634
File: 6 KB, 250x250, 30C3CA2B-3C1D-4A72-89DB-06400AE87B01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18533634

>>18533491
>0 Similar Images found on Yandex, SauceNao, TinyEye and google images.

A-anon? Is it really that bad?

>> No.18533725
File: 357 KB, 2078x1500, CygnetAndFirebird.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18533725

>>18533542
Her Cygnet books are pretty underrated IMO, the only reason I gave them a try is because I'm a big fan of John Howe's cover art and illustrations but was presently surprised by how much I enjoyed the actual book.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/44606-cygnet-duology

https://www.john-howe.com/portfolio/gallery/details.php?image_id=577

>> No.18533743

Medieval fantasy with houses fighting for power like ASOIAF but actually good?

>> No.18533770

any fantasy books about training dragons?
any fantasy books about fucking dragons?

>> No.18533790

>>18531935
That is such bad writing, but I do like the concept of giant crabs. This is one of the images that could convince even a hardened grognard why the sffg ghetto exists.

>> No.18533930

>>18533540
Joke's on you. It was a gift from a family member.

>> No.18533940

I just finished a roadside picnic, while I enjoyed the book, I don't get why it gets praised so much
What did I miss, what's so profound about this book?

>> No.18533950

>>18533634
>Is it really that bad?
The book? Most certainly.

>> No.18533957

>>18533940
> what's so profound about this book?
cultists gonna cult

>> No.18533971
File: 69 KB, 313x475, 38117105._SY475_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18533971

>>18529031
The Monster Baru Cormorant, The Masquerade #2 - Seth Dickinson (2018)

Contains some protagonist spoilers for the first book and how they affect the second, though not in terms of plot spoilers.
While there are similarities with the first book it's overall a significant departure and not for the better as I thought it'd be. I believe Dickinson has overcorrected for the perceived flaws of the first book and as a result has veered off wildly. This is more of an adventure book than anything else, though most of it is spent in transit rather than at destinations. The book starts with explicitly undercutting the ending of the first and then proceeds into a certain type of character arc for the rest of the book that I dislike.
As a result of the first book Baru now has brain damage and PTSD which are shown to be significant disabilities. Because of this she is overall a much more passive and weaker character, which is to be expected. While these are certainly realistic outcomes they aren't ones that I'm interested in reading about. I've read more than enough of "mary sue becomes terribly disabled which provides character development AND also slows down narrative progress" to know that it isn't something that I enjoy.
I remain confused about the setting, particularly the specifics of their technological development. It's very much all over the place, which I don't know if it's because they developed significantly differently than how our world did or if they're piecemeal remnants from past civilizations.
On a related matter of specifics, some of the words the characters use, especially the Japanese, made me question whether it was those specific terms or if the author was using them as convenient shorthand rather than explaining what they would be in-universe assuming this isn't an alternate Earth.
As with the first book the fantastic elements remain limited, though the conclusion could be heading towards science fantasy, but not in a way that I can appreciate as I find it rather ridiculous and out of place. There are also other elements present that I found jarring that varied from the operations of modern spy agencies, to an African ethnography by colonialists, and a commentary on the US involvement in the Vietnam War. At times it felt like I was reading multiple different books.
I'll read rest of the series, though my expectations are now appropriately tempered. I had envisioned several different path for the series to tread and it would seem it's heading towards one of my less preferred destinations.

Rating: 3/5

>> No.18533986

>>18533725
None of McKillip is underrated, maybe underappreciated. But I've literally never seen a negative discussion about her writing.

>> No.18533993

Romance, no cuckold

>> No.18534004

>>18533993
Try using google to search for books.

>> No.18534006
File: 20 KB, 480x337, 1621541210656.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534006

>>18533930

>> No.18534011

>>18534004
no

>> No.18534018

>>18534011
Too retarded to use it?

>> No.18534021

>>18534018
no

>> No.18534022

>>18534006
Don't worry. Said family member is an autistic incel. So he will never find out what I did to the book.

>> No.18534027

>>18534021
Sure, anon. Whatever you say.

>> No.18534029

>>18534027
ok

>> No.18534030

>>18534022
>Don't worry. Said family member is an autistic incel. So he will never find out what I did to the book.

So your average Sanderson fan then.

>> No.18534033
File: 2.63 MB, 420x280, friends.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534033

>>18534022
>kindly autistic incel gives gift to ungrateful family member who insults him and destroys the gift for an epic goteem moment

>> No.18534038

>>18534022
If your family member was an autistic incel, wouldn't he give you a book by Bakker?

>> No.18534056

>>18532714
One more example here >>18534038

You literally can't make this shit up.

>> No.18534066
File: 609 KB, 1157x679, 1602969705991.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534066

>>18534038
Never read Bakker.

>> No.18534073

>>18534066
Never read Sanderson.

>> No.18534093

>>18533940
It's an interesting and original premise done well without any real negatives or mistakes.

>> No.18534094

>>18534073
Cool.

>> No.18534140
File: 229 KB, 774x1080, last-call-fault-lines-3-tim-powers-hc_1_991732318ceb6850dac260bc5732a96f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534140

>incredible first half
'damn this is like Stephen King, but good'
>letdown second half
'oh...thats just like Stephen King..'

>> No.18534213

>>18532901
>>18531951
Do you think if you tried actually criticizing these passages, instead of just pointing to them and saying "This is obviously bad let's all laugh at it for obvious reasons," that you could say anything substantial? Refusing to elaborate and simply relying on group mockery is to rely on mysticism and reveal a lack of actual concrete opinions. You can't really be smug about being chad enough to criticize Sanderson if you aren't actually being critical. Pointing and laughing with no substantiation is basically on the same level of a schoolyard bully (which is to say, thoughtless and immature).

>> No.18534219

>>18533986
I've never seen anyone mention the Cygnet books here, Riddle-Master and The Forgotten Beasts of Eld seem to be her most well know/read books but certainly not Cygnet.

>> No.18534243

>>18533950
Can you recommend one?

>> No.18534256

>>18534243
I can.

>> No.18534267
File: 594 KB, 200x200, rofl.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534267

>>18534256

>> No.18534350

>>18534213
Does it trouble you?

>> No.18534371

>>18531951
>>18531935
Is this for real?

>> No.18534375
File: 54 KB, 1096x423, 1594194738162.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534375

>> No.18534407

>>18534350
No. Anyone bothered by this kind of thing would lose their mind posting here. But I did want to challenge them/you to try to actually make substantial criticisms. If they do post substantial criticisms about his prose, then good, the posting quality has increased. If they don't, I get to be smug about them being called out for having no point and can laugh at them along with everyone else.

>> No.18534420

>>18530087
Did you like anything she recommended?

>> No.18534691

We should rename /sffg/ with /BSG/, Brandon Sanderson General. Every other modern "author" simply pales in comparison.

>> No.18534740

>>18534691
cool

>> No.18534752

Who the fuck is Brandon Sanderson?

>> No.18534775

>>18534752
Some mediocre writer, apparently.

>> No.18534796
File: 309 KB, 1594x641, 1610248204957.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534796

Is this accurate?

>> No.18534805

>>18534796
FOR FUCKS SAKE WHAT IS SO SPECIAL ABOUT THIS FUCKING AUTHOR THAT MAKES YOU PEOPLE SHIT UP AN ENTIRE THREAD TO TALK ABOUT HIM FUCKS SAKE

>> No.18534809

>>18534805
bakker spam good but don't you dare try to discuss sanderson

>> No.18534811

>>18534805

See for yourself:
>>18531935
>>18531951

>> No.18534814

>>18534809
This, but unironically.

>> No.18534820

https://twitter.com/PatrickRothfuss/status/1408956667329454085 I think there's another story people might be looking for

>> No.18534823
File: 611 KB, 2494x3300, c77c32986d42c77289dc7d430df41d0d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534823

>>18534796
also this

>> No.18534829

>>18534823
Why isn't he crying and complaining like a bitch?

>> No.18534833

>>18534809
I've given up on this general being free of bakker but that doesn't mean we should let things get worse

>> No.18534838

>>18534829
what do you think the 8 hour runtime is for

>> No.18534844

>>18534838
Go figure.

Imagine having an unironically original world just to waste it all away with shit writing.

>> No.18534845
File: 2.45 MB, 740x806, Kelsier_dancing_like_a_dumbass.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534845

>>18534805

>> No.18534899

>>18534845
The webm that killed /sanderson/.

>> No.18534900
File: 865 KB, 2544x4000, 1615544268397.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534900

>>18534845

>> No.18534903

>>18533491
>Buy the book in first place
You not are better than a Sandersoy.

>> No.18534904
File: 214 KB, 1948x1885, 1594848948254.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534904

Daily reminder that this happened during peak /sffg/.

>> No.18534909

>>18534845
If this isn't the ultimate humiliation of an author's work, I don't know what is.

>> No.18534910

>>18534420
No, sorry. I just wanted to point somewhere you could look.
I have liked some other stuff she recommended though.

Also what the fug happened to 4chan? Couldn't post for about two hours

>> No.18534919

>>18534899
>>18534900
>>18534909
Can you explain what's so wrong with it? Genuinely curious

>> No.18534921

>>18534919
Wrong with what exactly? Could you be more specify?

>> No.18534923

>>18534921
Kelsier being in Fortnite

>> No.18534925

>>18534919
It's contextual

>> No.18534926

>>18534925
Hmm?

>> No.18534941

>>18534904
definitively not peak sffg if wolfe doesn't win.

>> No.18534959

>>18534923
Nothing inherently wrong with it. Just another undeniable assertion that Sanderson writes books for children.

>> No.18534962
File: 32 KB, 400x388, 24343243243.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18534962

Favorite Malazan character?

>> No.18534970

>>18534962
The whiskey guy was alright.

>> No.18534989

>>18534959
I guess Alien, Predator, Stranger Things, Street Fighter, Terminator, Inception, John Wick and The Walking Dead are for children too

>> No.18534999

>>18534989
Expect that every single one of those is a global pop-culture phenomenon.

Something that Sanderson is not, ironically.

>> No.18535003

>>18534999
Yet somehow epic approached him to put one of his characters into the game, curious

>> No.18535018

>>18535003
A Noble endeavor in my opinion. Nothing wrong with incentivizing children to read.

Or are you unironically implying that Sanderson is even remotely known to anyone outside of the sff scene? Maybe one the Developer's kids really likes Sanderson.

>> No.18535026

>>18535018
https://twitter.com/DonaldMustard/status/1328909741108514816

>> No.18535041

>>18534962
Is it even possible to pick just one?

>> No.18535055
File: 102 KB, 801x1011, 1609913092309.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535055

>>18535026
>"Brandon Sanderson my very favorite author EVER!"
>Hundreds, if not thousands, of cape shit Marvel/DC tweets.

Not him, but posting the twitter of literal men-children who claim that Sando is their favorite author is fucking hilarious.

>> No.18535062
File: 106 KB, 940x788, c8536b_bdba79f4435a420b98a8b60d25234b96~mv2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535062

>>18535055

>> No.18535063
File: 70 KB, 1125x1125, 1601691291250.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535063

>>18535026
>Sanderson is my favorite author ever

The absolute State.

>> No.18535067

>>18535063
He makes games for children. What better than a man-child to think like one?

>> No.18535069
File: 85 KB, 536x810, 9bef9b640566ae1f3fbf1da9be48e48b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535069

The premise for these is dumb, and yet the plot twists and cool shit makes it the most enjoyable sci-fi I've read in awhile.

>> No.18535078

>>18535062
You're still at step 2? I never left step 5.

>> No.18535087

>>18534805
desu senpai, it's mostly people obsessed with hating him, not a clue why. The people who like him seem calm and reasonable

>> No.18535091

>>18535087
Does it trouble you?

>> No.18535105

>>18535087
It’s mostly the Bakkercucks who hate him. Other people are just indifferent to him.

>> No.18535108

>>18535026
>Business man makes promotional tweet to boost sales

Damn. You sure showed him.

>> No.18535117

>>18535105
Do you have proof of this? Sounds like a coping mechanism to me.

>> No.18535120

>>18535108
>nooo he cant actually like the book he must be promoting the skin that wouldn't come out for another 6 months that isn't even from the same book
refer back to this handy chart >>18535062 and know that it gets better anon

>> No.18535125

>>18535120
I unironically accept your defeat.

>> No.18535126
File: 158 KB, 639x479, king of dragon pass.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535126

>>18529031
Any bronze age fantasy settings or universes like Glorantha?

>> No.18535127

>>18535125
You have a ways to go until acceptance but I appreciate the spirit

>> No.18535129
File: 1.05 MB, 1242x1232, 1621150988722.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535129

>>18535091
I'm not troubled by anything in this thread.
>>18535105
I really don't see how any can have less than indifference towards Sanderson. I like Stormlight books but I don't suck his cock. Looking up, it seems like fairly innocuous posts enraged some teenagers or something. I don't lurk these threads much these days, it's been way before these books since I really paid attention to /lit/

>> No.18535136

>>18535129
It's nonetheless hilarious seeing some people seething when you point to the obvious fact that Sanderson is simply a bad writer, although hugely successful and a brilliant business man.

>> No.18535138

>>18535087
It's pure, unfiltered envy. Brandon writes absolutely stunning prose combined with incredibly engaging worldbuilding. The lectures he uploads in his YouTube is just the cherry on top. The fact that he's popular AND good just makes incels seethe.

>> No.18535139
File: 486 KB, 500x762, 1621136516485.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535139

>>18535136
h-haha y-yeah you're right haha i'm not mad at all but like uh.... haha lol he's still bad right? right? i'm not mad anymore btw

>> No.18535142

>>18535129
>I really don't see how any can have less than indifference towards Sanderson
I'm indifferent to Sanderson, but I always wonder why people who hate him have to go out of their way to shit on this thread.

>> No.18535145

>>18535139
See this guy right here >>18535138? It's pure poetry.

>> No.18535151

>>18535142
inferiority complex after being bullied out of the majority of the literature board because it's full of self help gurus who look down on genre fiction
so you're in your containment thread but you still need some way to feel superior to SOMEONE at least

>> No.18535152
File: 37 KB, 500x492, 1599109008385.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535152

>>18535138
I appreciate the effort, but go a little less hard on the bait next time. It's too obvious.

>> No.18535157

>>18535151
They're on 4chan. The only people they will have any superiority here are the pseuds, even children are superior to them, so again, why go out of your way to shit up a thread?

>> No.18535158

>>18535151
>inferiority complex after being bullied out of the majority of the literature board because it's full of self help gurus who look down on genre fiction
Did this happen to you?

>> No.18535171

>>18535158
Why do you think there's a general for science fiction and fantasy but nothing else?

>> No.18535173

>>18535171
There's a general for Call of the Crocodile

>> No.18535177

>>18535173
A general for the peak of literature and another one for the dregs, then. Doesn't change my point. This is a containment thread.

>> No.18535188
File: 17 KB, 540x305, 1600473620836.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535188

I did cry. Worst prose I've ever read.

>> No.18535190

>>18535091
Are you the same guy as >>18534350 ? The one who got BTFO'd by being unable to substantiate himself?
I can't believe I'm coming back hours later to this same conversation happening despite no substantial criticism being posted. I guess that's /sffg/ for you, circles of kneejerk shitposting with no substance.

>> No.18535193
File: 24 KB, 1046x116, 1618033033097.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535193

>>18535190
Does it trouble you?

>> No.18535194

>>18535193
No, because I was asking a question ("are you?") and not accusing you of being him. If you're not him that's fine. I guess "Does it trouble you?" is just a meme shitposting line I wasn't aware of.

>> No.18535195
File: 10 KB, 184x184, 1618190825583.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535195

>>18535193
At least he outs himself as a newfag.

>> No.18535197

>>18535190
Just ignore the Bakker cuckolds.

>> No.18535198

>>18535194
Lurk moar, newfag.

>> No.18535201

>>18535195
I'll be back after finishing all of Bakker's works. I admit I didn't finish my cuck training.

>> No.18535202

What's some comfy non 'child of destiny must unite the empire and destroy the evil empire' fantasy with female protagonists

>> No.18535204

>>18535201
Nah bro, you don't know about inspect element

>> No.18535206

>>18535202
Have you tried google to answer your question?

>> No.18535208

>>18535206
Yeah I did but the only opinions that I respect are /sffg/

>> No.18535210
File: 419 KB, 596x541, 1616411991728.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535210

>>18535190
>>18535194

>> No.18535211

>been living as an hermit in exile for 20 years
>been spending the last months running wild cross-continental marathon snorting amphetamine made from elf-ashes
>dressed in rotting fur and a mithril hauberk, the ultimate hobo wizard
>finally encounter a former colleague, remember his unmistakable talent, be envious at his hairline and position as grandmaster

"Who are you?"

lmao

>> No.18535215
File: 56 KB, 600x600, 1602209728458.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535215

>>18535190
You are clearly troubled.

>> No.18535218

>>18532472
>stop motion Aurang
That sounds terrifying and kino

>> No.18535222

>>18535190
does it trouble you?

>> No.18535228

>>18535215
>>18535222
I can't believe I've been so devastated by memes. The greatest tactical misstep in my life
Bakkerchads are eating me alive and I simply have no recourse

>> No.18535230
File: 836 KB, 940x1101, 1593513778479.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535230

Daily reminder that our lord and savor posts here and continues to make cucks seethe.

>> No.18535232

>>18534845
Seeing people seethe over Fortnite characters makes me proud to be a zoomer

>> No.18535233

>>18535228
Jesus Christ, just ignore them.

>> No.18535236

>>18535233
>reasoning with sandersoys

>> No.18535242

>>18535228
We accept your surrender.

>> No.18535248

I was crossing campus not so long ago and I happened to bump into one of my old
professors. She greeted me with a warm smile and congratulated me on my success
writing children’s fiction. After swearing under my breath, I explained to her that I wrote epic
fantasy, and that if anything, it was as adult as adult could be. The idea, I told her, was that
in today’s electronically balkanized society, genre was the only place where it was possible to write ‘literature.

>> No.18535255

>>18535248
Not sure if trolling, but it sounds to me like that professor was jealous.

>> No.18535265

>>18535201
No need to. You will never be a BVLL.

>> No.18535266

I once met a man in a 4chan related video game community. He was 37. He worked at sonic. He was severely autistic and didn't know it, but I did. He was the simpest simp that ever simped. One day he told me about this pastime of his. There was a video game general thread on /v/, and he did not like the developers of this game. So he spent hours every night, every day, every time the thread existed, doing everything he could to make the thread worse.

>> No.18535274

>>18535255
http://www.heliotropemag.com/Issue01/pdf/Heliotrope_pg32-38_SkepticalFantasist.pdf

>> No.18535298

>>18535194
Did Fortnite Sando Skins unironically bring you here?

No wonder these threads have gone to absolute shit.

>> No.18535328
File: 218 KB, 397x434, 1623952355415.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535328

>Finds a way to capitalize on low IQ individuals and men children.

How can one man be this based?

>> No.18535338

is there a more insecure place on this website?

>> No.18535377

>>18529437
Fucking prince of thorns.

>> No.18535387
File: 3.31 MB, 5322x1697, 1624757322321.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535387

I wrote a novel in which the protagonist is an idealized version of myself who hooks up with a cute, tsundere warrior princess. I mostly like ships where I like the girls and can project onto the guys.

>> No.18535391

Wow, this thread is JUST. You can tell bakkerhaters are teenagers who chuckle when they hear about anything gay. Frankly, Bakker's liberal use of cuckoldry and homosexual relationships (consensual or otherwise) is the great filter of immature YA readers and poltards.

>> No.18535402

>>18529437
My novella about the Terror

>> No.18535417

>>18535338
/wg/ is full of pseuds, so there?

>> No.18535475
File: 509 KB, 1400x2282, 81abueL-iLL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535475

>>18533569
>Tanith Lee
Is Tales from the Flat Earth good?

https://www.goodreads.com/series/55465-tales-from-the-flat-earth

>> No.18535497
File: 2.25 MB, 640x480, 1607470424779.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535497

I mean.. Brandon's themes are shallow and predictable (hero's journey, good vs evil) whilst Bakker introduces far more nuanced and thoughtful concepts; cognitive psychology, paradoxes, allowing your wife to fuck other men, heuristic collapse and linguistic co-consciousness, just to name a few.

>> No.18535699

>>18533442
> A lot of people who try to read it give up between books 6 and 9.
I didn't even make it that far, I think I gave up around Shadow Rising

>> No.18535708

>>18529031
Aww Ravnica

>> No.18535796

>>18535211
Can you write properly, sir?

>> No.18535815

>>18529031
Does anyone have an epub of the Bill Johnston translation of Stanisław Lem‘s Solaris?

>> No.18535823

>>18530843
Kek

>> No.18535825

>>18530986
Gene Wolfe

>> No.18535851

Can one of you mother fuckers write better books than Sanderson and Rothfuss? This is the level of quality? One of you here must have some talent. Memeing cuck quotes back and forth instead of writing. I want to love Fantasy and sci-fi again. Get to work, retards

>> No.18535870

>>18535851
Nobody here writes anything, and if they did, it'll be worse than Sanderson, also stop bringing this shit up whenever it dies down.

>> No.18535877
File: 437 KB, 2029x2048, 1592072745032.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535877

>>18535851
>Can one of you mother fuckers write

>> No.18535889

>>18535870
I have 25 books on amazon. No, you may not read them.

>> No.18535928
File: 94 KB, 750x596, 41AD5757-5F73-4C93-A684-8146F4544125.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535928

Do Tolkien’s elves poo?

>> No.18535944

>>18535851
Im writing a novel but its not good at all

>> No.18535946

>>18535889
pussy
if you have the balls to sell them, then have the balls to stand by them

>> No.18535955

>>18535946
Anon, he never written any novels, he's just posturing.

>> No.18535960

>>18535955
I'd like to think that nobody is that pathetic

>> No.18535967

>>18535960
You're on /lit/ where the majority of the so-called "writers" here deluded themselves into thinking they're going to be the next great author.

>> No.18535973

>>18535960
Kek, one of the most famous line are s”why would I post my work here? So anons could steal it?” Or something equally stupid, “I’m trying to get traditionally published, why would I ruin it by posting my work?”

>> No.18535979

>>18535928
Like Futurama’s Nibbler. They poop infrequently diamond hard pellets

>> No.18535986
File: 331 KB, 2442x1170, DistortedSunrise_Chasiotis_2442.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18535986

>>18535967
Honestly would just count myself lucky to be the next meme book writer. At least then I could say "I don't care if the writing is shit. Books were sold and money was made."

>> No.18535992

>>18535973
ppl post their work in the writing threads often...

>> No.18535994

>>18535986
Seeing how they treat Gardner just for simply finishing his novel and having the audacity to self-publish it, they'll treat you like shit. And Gardner was from /wg/

>> No.18536002

>>18535986
Just get a fucking job. There’s less embarrassing ways to make more money.

>> No.18536006

>>18535928
They all poo under the communal poo tree while holding hands and singing

>> No.18536013

>>18535992
Anon, I was in those threads a month ago, and some anons were shutting on other anons for writing “anime” whatever the fuck that means. And when those anons ask to check their own work, they said those lines. Maybe things change, but I doubt it.

>> No.18536022

>>18535973
The most realistic fear is just not wanting 4chan people to obsess over you like Bakker or that /fit/ guy whose novels get posted constantly. Note how Bakker's brief posts here are reposted almost daily. Nobody wants to deal with that

>> No.18536025

>>18536022
Kek, here comes the excuses.

>> No.18536031

>>18536002
>What the fuck is a pen name?
>>18535994
Sounds like you'd be far more embarrassed on my behalf than I shall. Thank you kindly for the free emotional investment, I feel rich already.

>> No.18536032

>>18534845
I don't know how any sane adult can read the Mistborn series. I got as far as the main bitch living in the new town or whatever before I realized that the entire series was going to be YA trash. I just got horsegirl vibes from the whole thing.

>> No.18536034

New thread
>>18536033

>> No.18536040

>>18536013
most anons write anime because they only experience anime... it's like king writing about writers all the time.

>> No.18536044

>>18536040
what the fuck is write anime

>> No.18536046

>>18536031
>Sounds like you'd be far more embarrassed on my behalf than I shall. Thank you kindly for the free emotional investment, I feel rich already.
The only reason why I'm defending Gardner is because he actually finish what he started. Literally no one in /wg/ has ever done that.

>> No.18536059

>>18536044
>what the fuck is write anime
I think it’s supposed to insult the writer for writing novels that aren’t as serious as Epic of Gilgamesh, Homer, Ovid, Virgil, Beowulf, Dante, Spenser, Ariosto, Camoes, Zukofsky, Orson, and Pound.

>> No.18536066

>>18536044
>what the fuck is write anime
No none fucking knows. All I know is that apparently, the "pseuds" use it as an insult and to act superior for anons that just want to write for fun.

>> No.18536070

>>18536044
anime plots, tropes, and cliche. anime covers many topics and themes but the majority of them come back to the classic hero journey, but with the added 'the real journey/treasure was the friends we made along the way' morality.

>> No.18536114

>>18536070
Okay, but how is that write anime?

>> No.18536431

>>18536059
>being this assblasted by my reply, you have to make a response about it to someone else in a different thread
Go watch your Star Wars “epic” bro.

>> No.18536492

>>18535475
Yes, that's definitely her standout work.
Also an incredible entry point.

>> No.18536504

>>18536114
It essentially follows the same structure and tropes that conventional shounen (action anime for boys) does. So might as well have been an anime. Are you autistic?


There's also the writing quality (or the lack of it) where they try to write out anime scenes but fail miserably.

>> No.18536908

Hey I am looking for a certain hard sci fi book with an incredibly weird planet shape, something almost like a non-euclidian planet shape if that makes any sense. The planet looked kind of like a tower. I am having a really difficult time finding it since i saw it posted and described here some time ago.

>> No.18537165

>>18535851
I read for a living. Yes, that's a thing.

Sanderson is one of the worse science-fiction-fantasy writers I've ever come across. Only better than full woke pseuds. He still gets a free pass because of his popularity.

>> No.18537172

>>18537165
how can you read for a living and not know the difference between worse and worst

>> No.18537201

>>18537172
To be fair, he said "read", not "write".

>> No.18537249
File: 216 KB, 393x391, 1596495765832.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18537249

>>18534904
>Imagine thinking that Sanderson is in any way shape or form superior to Bakker.