/lit/ - Literature

>>18525292
underrated post

>>18525292
When I read Feuerbach.

Stupid nigga.

>>18525292
When did you realise that the young hegelians where so close to being actually right when they discarded god and threw it all away when they kept antiquated illogical moral systems?

>>18525292
>The Young Hegelians drew on both Hegel's veneration of Reason and Freedom (as the guiding forces of history) and his idea that the 'Spirit' overcame all that opposed reason and freedom. They felt Hegel's apparent belief in the end of history conflicted with other aspects of his thought and that, contrary to his later thought, the dialectic was certainly not complete; this they felt was (painfully) obvious given the irrationality of religious beliefs and the empirical lack of freedoms—especially political and religious freedoms—in existing Prussian society.

>The Young Hegelians interpreted the entire state apparatus as ultimately claiming legitimacy based upon religious tenets. While this thought was clearly inspired by the function of Lutheranism in contemporary Prussia, the Young Hegelians held the theory to be applicable to any state backed by any religion. All laws were ultimately based on religious tenets.

>As such, their plan to undermine what they felt was the corrupt and despotic state apparatus was to attack the philosophical basis of religion.

What the fuck

>>18525319
When did your dad molest you, faggot?

>>18525363
not him but why do positive mentions of Max always elicit such volatile reactions?

>>18525326
this kind of shit keps me up at nite

>>18525326
Quite a fair amount of a 'certain tribe' in that group.

>>18525381
Because the people unironically holding up theist enlightenment beliefs are beyond salvation.

Stirner has some faults, but if there's one good thing about him it's his criticism of the young hegelian cuckold gang.

>>18525326
>>As such, their plan to undermine what they felt was the corrupt and despotic state apparatus was to attack the philosophical basis of religion.
The entire history of philosophy since the Renaissance and Reformation is basically summed up by this sentence. It's not unique to the Young Hegelians. It's the same for Kant, Hegel himself, Descartes, Locke, etc., even if they nominally "believed" in God.

>>18525292
Hegel is shit
most overrated thinker in the entire history of western philosophy
Marx and Feuerbach are pretty bad too but at least they are readable
go back to church idiot

>>18525404
So do you think Hegel counts the Bible as a work of art, or part of natural religion?

I love it when /lit/ says
>Hegel is actually quite simple with the proper preliminary reading

The whole point of his system is that it is complicated kek
How else are you gonna grasp the absolute if you pretend it in itself is grasped within an anglo essay's abstract

>>18525326
Every political ideology is a cult thanks to Hegel autism

>>18525292
I want you to take any excerpt from the writings of the so-called "Young Hegelians" and critique their understanding of Hegel. DO IT RIGHT NOW

>>18526120
It's already been done to death. The Old Hegelians have a flawed understanding too though.

>>18525471
When does lit evr say this about Hegel? Half the posts claim he is gibberish and the other half claim PoS is unreadable and to look at his other books

>>18525319
Stirner is himself confused, and he thinks that egoism is somehow superior to all other lives, but he can't explain how a way of life can be in any way superior to another.

>>18525326
>The Young Hegelians interpreted the entire state apparatus as ultimately claiming legitimacy based upon religious tenets. While this thought was clearly inspired by the function of Lutheranism in contemporary Prussia, the Young Hegelians held the theory to be applicable to any state backed by any religion. All laws were ultimately based on religious tenets.

This is still true in 2021.

>>18525292
Implying that it was supposed to be understood. You are just a pawn in Hegel's game, OP.

>>18525292
>no gf
>no good job
>mods still exist

If there is a God I live to blasphemy his name

>>18525420
I'm not well versed enough to comment on most of the figures you've just mentioned, but I'm curious where you see that in Descartes? Granted, I haven't read all of Descartes, but most of the important philosophical works (Meditation, Discourse, Principles, The World, Treatise of Man, Broadsheet, parts of the Passions) and I'm not sure that's a viable interpretation.

>>18527130
Yes, Stirner has his weak points. In general his philosophy is not very well thought out and obviously philosophers after him, like Nietzsche, Camus or even the French post modernists have remedied some of his logical and epistemological flaws.

>>18525292
>>18525326
Shame Schelling didn't succeed in converting Engels and his cohort. The Peterson-tier schematics are too much to take seriously.

>>18525326
>the Young Hegelians held the theory to be applicable to any state backed by any religion. All laws were ultimately based on religious tenets.

This is literally true. Read the books Political Theology and the Concept of the Political by Carl Schmitt.