/lit/ - Literature

I'm ready to take the UFO pill? Do we have a chart? Who would be on it? Vallee? Velikofsky?

>tfw /x/ and /lit/ finally become one

>>18507438
People on /x/ actually read. They got a library on their Occult & Magic General threads with some good stuff in 'em

Guenon based pbub

>>18508557
True, its the best thread on /x/ for that reason

>>18508568
Eh they also got a sense of humour over there. Don't take themselves so seriously as many anons here

>>18508617
really true, makes it much more comfy

>>18508617
The only ones who take themselves seriously here are the pseuds and they get ridicule because of it.

WE DID IT! NOW ONTO THE EBOLA THREADS.

>>18508672
You sure about that? I look at the arts and I see lots of great works coming out by young contemporary artists in performance, music, graphic art, etc. and I find that there is very scarce talent in written works of language that can be considered artistic in any way, frankly there's too much overlap with philosophy that it isn't really interesting or vivid. If you want to be an esotericist then that's fine but what will that contribute to to humanity that isn't just your own narcissistic ego rants? If you're gonna' do that you're better off writing letters; being a pseudo-intellectual to me can be a stage for people where they either grow up, realize that the arts are not for them and move on or something to push through and struggle with, I can't point a group and say "THEY SUCK" when everyone has different points of view. There was a thread here with people talking about how roughly half of the Western canon was developed by homosexual males, it's like...perhaps, but that crowd included several gay guys who want to have role models who are like them, it's only natural to want that. Still, the gays don't have the monopoly on talent, suffering can come from bad luck, having a mini-dick, etc. I think that written works of art that aspire to literary status need to stop forcing memes and instead of worrying about their markets, writers should be themselves. A lot of the Occult and Magick General on /x/ is full of unknown writers who were just being themselves and it has certainly helped me...idk what else to say

>>18508872
>There was a thread here with people talking about how roughly half of the Western canon was developed by homosexual males
kek, really?

>>18508872
Bro what on earth are you even trying to say here lol

>>18508925
The list is long, man. But nevertheless, that's not my point. My point is that instead of worrying about little things, writing should be blind, stupid, maniacal even which I don't see much of. Everyone's trying to see who makes the most insightful aphorism and frankly it's demoralizing; I don't think only queer guys like seeing Mishima or Auden be represented, I'm sure women, immigrants, black people, etc. they all want to see themselves represented in the arts and I welcome and embrace that, just maybe less Rick & Morty more your own musings, you can find nuggets of wisdom everywhere for everyone, that's my point.

>>18508937
He's a pseud trying to defend himself. Just ignore him.

>>18508937
>>18508985
Here's my response

>>18508991
> Just ignore him

>>18507156
Vallee and Keele for sure, maybe Streiber but I've found his work dry

>>18507138
finally

desu just makes it abundantly clear who was making the threads in the first place

>>18508557
>People on /x/ actually read.
They are what Schopenhauer refers to as "Reading yourself stupid", actually. I've never read a single /x/ poster that doesn't deal in purely sterile abstractions rather than anything concrete.

>>18510907
Counter-initiation?

>NOOOOT THE HECKING GUENON THREADERINOS!

>>18510907
It's the fucking agents of counter-initiation isn't it?

>>18507138
>>18510907
Ayy lmao posting is a separate phenomenon from guenon or tradposting. I have always found ayys interesting in a purely speculative sense, it's just a strange topic. Guenon I have really never cared for, I read some of his books in 2018 when they were first spammed here but I found them kind of petty, obfuscatory, and meandering. The one book where he finally outlines his metaphysics, The multiple states of being, is just not all that profound, its standard metaphysical fare without even much argument for its position. As far as you can approach the ayy question from a Guenon type perspective sure it's fun, but the Guenon people take it very seriously while ayy people tend not to it's just casual speculation.

There is something strange happening here lately with this nexus of religion, occult, paranormal, and political extremist stuff being interrelated. It feels almost like shills trying to direct things into a bad place.

>>18510977
>There is something strange happening here lately with this nexus of religion, occult, paranormal, and political extremist stuff being interrelated. It feels almost like shills trying to direct things into a bad place.
This is precisely why I'm suspicious of the Jung posting as of recent, because you'd be laughed off the board years ago if you seriously delved into subjects such as "alchemy".

>>18511195
Lousy JTRIG shilling me into broadening my horizons

>>18511195
People are gradually becoming more disillusioned with the bugman mechanist/scientist and empiricist worldviews that proliferated during the tedious atheist vs. Christian internet wars, and are entertaining meaningful alternatives. I'm fairly certain, in large part, it might well be largely as simple as this.

>>18511221
>People are gradually becoming more disillusioned with the bugman mechanist/scientist and empiricist worldviews
>This is a good thing!

Meanwhile, René Guénon, Chapter "Fissures in the Great Wall" from Reign of Quantity:
>However far the "solidification" of the sensible world may have gone, it can never be carried so far as to turn the world into a "closed system" such as is imagined by the materialists. The very nature of things sets limits to "solidification" and the more nearly those limits are approached the more unstable is the corresponding state of affairs; in actual fact ... the point corresponding to a maximum of "solidification" has already been passed, and the impression that the world is a "closed system" can only from now onwards become more and more illusory and inadequate to the reality. "Fissures" (are) the paths whereby certain destructive forces are already entering, and must continue to enter ever more freely; according to traditional symbolism these "fissures" occur in the "Great Wall" which surrounds the world and protects it from the intrusion of maleficent influences coming from the inferior subtle domain.

>It cannot but be that 'fissures' should develop in this imagined 'closed system', which has moreover, owing to its 'mechanical' character, something 'artificial' about it (this word of coursebeing used in a sense much broader than in its usual application to industrial products alone) that is not such as to inspire confidence in its duration; and there are already at this moment numerous signs indicating most clearly that its unstable equilibrium is on the point of being interrupted. So true is this that what has been said about the materialism and mechanism of the modern period could almost in a certain sense be relegated to the past even now; this of course does not mean that their practical consequences may not continue to develop for a certain time to come, nor that their influence on the general mentality will not persist for a more or less considerable period, if only as a consequence of 'popularization' in its various forms, including education in schools at all levels, where there are always plenty of 'survivals' of that sort hanging on (this point will be expanded shortly); but it is nonetheless true that at the present moment the very notion of'matter', so painfully worked out through so many different theories, seems to be in course of fading away; nevertheless, there is perhaps no reason to be unduly pleased at the occurrence, because, as will become dearer later on, it can only properly be taken to represent yet one more step toward final dissolution.