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I love how Joyce is a pirate

I'm going to prove that Finnegan's Wake is an information pool based on computer memory systems that didn't exist until a century after James Joyce's era; that Joyce was plugged into a cosmic consciousness from which he derived the inspiration for his entire corpus of work.

Oh and regarding your question, Finnegans Wake is not comparable to Ulysses in aneurism creating. Ulysses in one of his most comprehensible works, disregarding the last 200 pages without commas or fullstops. Look pal, I'm gonna rewrite you a piece of Finnegans Wake: ''Our cubehouse still rocks as earwitness to the thunder of his arafatas but we hear also through successive ages that shebby choruysh of unkalifed muzzlenimiissilehims that would blackguardise the whitestone ever hurtleturtled out of heaven.''
There are actually lots of invented words like: ''Perkodhuskurunbarggruauyagokgorlayorgromgremmitghundhurthrumathunaradidilifaititillibumullunukkunu
n'' or ''bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurn
uk!''
I see some dadaist influenece don't you?

>>1850389
So he writes gibberish and people lap it up?
I mean, I like Pynchon, RAW, and PKDm but this is just beyond the pail.

Nabokov's sketch of the journey:

>>1850392
Idioglossic language, edinbrah

>>1850393
Clearer than all my schoolwrok.

>>1850393
I was about to ask you to make that clearer, but I would probably want you to fuzz it up again after reading

>>1850406

VERY AMUSING. Here's a more clear one, but with no connection to Nabokov. This one is provided by the Dublin Tourism.

http://www.ucd.ie/events/calendar?dt=d.en.89922&f=week&d=16/06/2011&sd=Thursday,%201
6%20June%202011&c=null&c=null&c=null&c=null&c=null&c=null&c=null&c=n
ull&c=null&c=null

>>1850392
>beyond the pail.

looks like the ocean is beyond the pail, but what does it have to do with Joyce. deeeeeerrrrrrp

Well shit let's go to Dublin

Every word in Finnegans Wake is just an English word written how Irish people would pronounce it (extremely Irish people). Imagine you are some jolly Irish dude who is extremely drunk and read it out loud. Suddenly, you will begin to hear meaning.

http://loveletters.tribe.net/thread/fce72385-b146-4bf2-9d2e-0dfa6ac7142d

That's another one of my heroes who is a creep. Fuck yeah.

this thread is rank with amateur(s?)
>>1850389
Last 40 pages, not 200. Are you reading the edition for blind people?
>>1850648
Oh, of course. If I pronounce the word 'Bettlimbraves' (246.33) as you say, I will get that Joyce is describing the hateful rivalary between Shem and Shaun as something 'battling braves.' But will I get that he simultaneously is referring to them as loving young brothers with the bcakwords, 'Brav im Bettli,' which means 'babes in bed'? Answer: your theory is wrong, and I've heard it from an English professor who didn't know what he was talking about either. Eugene Jolas: "...each sentence a rainbow to which each tiny drop is itself a many-hued prism."

Ulysses doesn't give aneurysms. Any decent litfag can tackle it. The Finnegans Wake dream is Joyce's work; and it doesn't give aneurysm, just lots and lots of fun and play.

I will be drinking at Ulysses bar in Manhattan on Bloomsday. Open bar, 12 to 1am. Any other litfags in nyc and over 21?

Alright. I'm gonna read one of this dirty old man's books. Which should I go for? I'm considering Finnegans Wake, pretty much because Joseph Campbell talks about it all the time.

>>1850669
Dubliners is great for a Holmes fan. Short stories and whatnot.

>>1850662
>>1850662
>Any other litfags in nyc and over 21?
>mfw a 20 year old American can't legally enjoy a beer

sure is land of the free huh?
bahahahahahaha

>>1850678
Well, then I will take a look.

>>1850684
tripfags never contribute anything, huh?

but for argument's sake: a bar is in no way worsened by lack of children, altho the children may disagree with that.

>>1850700
>complain about tripfags
>don't just ignore them

fucks sake what is wrong with you?

>>1850703
Found a Bloomsday thread on p. 10 so I don't have to start a new one.

Anyone have any plans to celebrate the Joyce on Thursday?

>>1851678

I'll probably just mention it to my friends, they'll call me a nerd and ask "what's ulysses?".

Might have a guinness or something iunno.

I'm going to the outdoor reading at the Rosenbach Museum in Philly. They have a chunk of the Ulysses manuscript on display, which I've never seen.

>>1851678
declan kiberd!

>>1850358
>question: can anyone here understand Ulysses without having an aneurism?
Well what value of "understand"?

Nobody gets all the myriad little jokes, but none of them are vital to understanding the book and appreciating its lyrical beauty (which it does have, every now and then).

The little jokes are indeed the point of the book, but the sheer density means you will get a good deal of them. And the more well-read you are, the more of them you will get, which enhances its value. Just remember to read it in a thick Irish accent.

I am an uneducated buffoon and I found it pretty fun.