/lit/ - Literature

>>18504498
put kafka on the chart then it is pretty much a complete essentials list

>>18504508
>Kafka
>German

>>18504534
did he write in hebrew, faggot?

>>18504498
>Zoglings TorleB

>>18504538
What and how you write is influenced by your cultural upbringing. A Non-German can write books in the German language, but he can't write German books. If I write a book in Chinese I'm not a Chinese author. That being said Jewish literature can be great, I'm not arguing against that. I love Schnitzler for example. But compare Kafka or Schnitzler to German authors from the same period. Jewish authors have a very distinct style and way to look at the world.

>>18504567
if you knew anything about kafka, it would be very clear to you that he had a very german upbringing and if you read his books you would very clearly see that he has an uncanny insight into the german soul and culture of his time

>>18504579
Kafka's literature is very cleary Jewish. Take for example in The Process the parable Before the Law. It's influenced by Jewish mysticism and the Talmud. Kafka himself was heavily influenced by Jewish religious thought, for example he was friends with Martin Buber. He was also influenced by Yiddish theater and culture, he even wrote books about it.

>>18504498
What kind of chart would you like? Have you already read all the books from this chart?

>>18504643
I've read most of the ones that aren't medieval or 21st century. Not that interested in those. I suppose if there's a recent standout novel I'd check it out, but I'm not really into the older german from the medieval period.

>>18504793
Medieval lit is great though

No Faust?

>>18504498
>no kafka
worthless chart

>>18504498
Meyrink The Golem

>>18506592
Interesting book but not exactly a classic of German lit is it?

>>18504508
>>18506568
It's always funny to me how Kafka is the only German language author Americans know

What are some good and not boring short books for an adhd zoomer?
Most of those chart books are some big ass Wälzer that I could never finish lmao

>>18507127
Not American and I have read more than you.

>>18507139
Try Ferdinand von Saar, Nestroy or Hugo von Hoffmannsthal. They all have short and interesting books.

>>18506553
He's on the chart, next to his buddy Schiller. Good chart

>>18504612
Wow, you're incredibly stupid.

What do you lads think of Grillparzer?

>>18507379
A friend of mine really likes Ein Traum ein Leben. I haven't read it though, so I can't say if I'd recommend it.

>>18504612
Kafka's literature is very clearly German. Take for example the words he uses, or his grammar. Why don't you tell us about his law degree? Surely, this must have influenced his style.
This is about literature and not Blut-und-Boden idiocy.

>>18507636
>selbst Reich-Ranicki hat die Schnauze voll

>>18507636
Well yes it's also relevant that he was Austrian or Bohemian or whatever and his job...these things would affect his mindset

>>18504498
No Sebald?

>>18504508
>>18504538
>>18504579
>>18507636
fucking kys amerimutt
you clearly haven't read any german author besides Kafka
if you would have read you would know what anon is trying to say
the way kafka writes is different from the german authors
all the german /lit/ i read had some fairy tale feel to it(even Woyzeck) while Kafka feels like a nightmare or fever dream
also if you would read the german authors in the same order as on the chart you would observe that every author has been influenced by the previous
kafka on the other hand would be out of place
pic related is (You)

>>18507857
Someone should make a chart for contemporary German literature. Mosebach, Kracht, maybe Wiglaf Droste etc. There are some interesting authors

>Max Frisch
>German
Pick one

>>18509772
seething germutt

>>18504498
If you want more recommendations check the warosu archive

>>18507127
It's one the few canonical German-language authors worth reading.

>>18504498
Just stopped by to say that I like the look of this chart. Aesthetically pleasing.

don't miss Berlin Alexanderplatz, OP

>>18513764
Some good ones on there but also many absolute shit tier books. Where is this list from?

>>18514162
Deutsche Welle - check DW 100 german must-reads

>>18514912
Deutsche Welle is "oeffentlich rechtlich" but financed by the ministry of defense? Or is it financed by the ministry of interior? I always forget...

>>18504612
Dass Die Verwandlung ein Deutsches Werk ist, wie selten ein anderes, den emotionalen Zustand des deutschen Untertan, oder auch Beamten in einer Sprache beschreibt, wie nur die Deutsche es vermag skurril und dennoch greifbar zu sein, das hast Du wohl nicht verstanden, Du froschpostender, postpubertärer, ungebildeter Internet-Edgelord. Verpiss Dich mit Deinen plumpen, antisemitischen Aussagen zurück auf Facebook.

>>18515018
>stating that Kafka was Jewish is antisemitic

>>18515075
Stating his work cannot be classified as German literature solely based on the fact that he happened to be Jewish and therefore neglecting Jewish influence on German society, art, literature and history is antisemitic, yes.

>>18515130
A Jew can't write German literature just as I can't write Jewish literature, and German culture had a bigger impact on Jewish culture than vice versa.
German literature in its most basic definition is literature written in German by Germans. Today the more relevant term is "Deutschsprachige Literature" anyway, which simply includes every book written in German. This term makes discussions like these pointless, since everyone can write in the German language.

>>18515218
That is possibly the dumbest thing I have read on 4Chan, ever.

Jewish life was always great part of life in Germany. No German scholar would say that German Literature by Jewish Germans isn't German Literature. Those are only absurd statements found on the deranged right wing spectrum. Go back to /pol/.

>>18515252
You talk like a bot. Good luck for passing the Turing test next time.

>>18515075
Stating that Jewish people cannot be Germans is literal Nazi shit

>>18515252
>>18515373
So you would agree that any German could just sit down and write Jewish literature?