/lit/ - Literature

>>18474901

>>18474901
it means loser.

>>18474901
Sure seems to trigger you.

YES, IT DOES; IT IS AN ABBREVIATION OF THE TERM: «INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE».

>>18474930
Right. This is the nearest definition I have found that makes any sense.

>when i close my eyes you cease to exist

>>18474939
>INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE
A contradiction in terms like a "square circle". Show me a square circle. Where does one exist? What does it look like?

>>18474958


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>>18474968
Exactly.

>>18474973


YOU CAN STOP REPLYING TO ME NOW.

It means "involuntary celibate" which indicates a desire but inability to have sexual relations with another. It may also refer to the cluster of personality traits that are both the cause and effect of this situation, such as misanthropy, lookism, and misogyny.

Incel is a sociological term that is short for involuntary celibacy, a common life circumstance.
Contrary to perceptions in the media, incel is neither a political movement nor a community/subculture, but a descriptive academic term for a gender-neutral life circumstance. Therefore, incels do not share a belief system, especially not those who do not self-identify as incels.
The term "incel" often means different things to different people, leading to confusion. Among academics and self-identified incels, the word refers to the literal circumstance of being celibate against one's will.
https://incels.wiki/w/Incel

>>18474958
> He doesn't contemplate impossible objects in his daily transcendantal meditations.
Nami.

>>18474980
How do you know what I can do? Where is the evidence?

>>18474981
>involuntary celibate
This is a contradiction in terms like a "square circle". Could you show me a square circle?

>>18474983
>involuntary celibacy
Celibacy is by definition voluntary, so saying that something is involuntarily voluntary does not make any sense. This is why the term is meaningless.

>>18474981
>>18474983
OP is saying that it's a nonsensical word. There is no "involuntary celibacy." All celibacy is voluntary by definition. You can't divorce a word from its intrinsic meaning.

>>18474901
It's function is to be volatile and disable civil discourse by creating a barrier wherein the once declared such must defend themselves against it before continuing. It's the same chidlish russian-made tactic as calling somebody racist or a conspiracy theorist or a G a m e r .
It's doesn't need to mean anything, it just needs to shut you up because you're making a point and they don't like it.
>>18474925
That is fucking hilarious, thank you Based (Honorary) Goy Ben "controlled opposition" Shapiro.

>>18475001
>Celibacy is by definition voluntary
Wrong, it is a legal term describing a state of affairs.

>>18474958
No it's not. While the word celibacy typically means a voluntary abstinence, it can mean sexual abstinence in general, hence the modifier involuntary to clarify it.
A more appropriate analogy would be the term "motor car". Before automobiles, no car would have a motor, since motors were not invented yet, but the motor car was similar enough in functionality to the old cars that instead of inventing a completely new word people added the modifier motor to the word car.

>>18475015
That's singlehood, not celibacy.

>>18475029
The state of being single is distinct from the state of being celibate (voluntarily or not).
It's entirely possible to have sex while staying single.

>>18475029
Huh, sorry, frog here. "Célibat" really just does describe the state of not being in a relationship, however I'm just learning that "celibacy" supposedly implies abstinence. Weird.

>>18475026
>sexual abstinence
>abstinence
Are you aware what that means?

>>18475001
>>18475006


CELIBACY IS NOT NECESSARILY VOLUNTARY; «CELIBATE»: FROM PROTOINDOEUROPEAN: «KAIWELO»: «ALONE/EMPTY/CONCEALED LIFE/LIVING».

>>18475006
Let's take a look at the Merriam-Webster entry for "celibate"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/celibate
The first definition is
>: not engaging in or characterized by sexual intercourse
No mention of the voluntary aspect.
One of the example uses of the word under this definition is
>I'd been celibate for so long, what was another year without sex?
>— Sue Grafton
clearly indicating the use of the word outside of a religious context, where the celibacy is involuntary.
Basically, you're wrong. The term "involuntarily celibate" is perfectly fine.

>>18475046
Is it okay for an individual to accept that he is likely not a viable father and remain celibate, even if he's not a member of the clergy? I genuinely don't know.

>>18475046
root words =/= actual meaning

>>18475011
>It's the same childish ... tactic as calling somebody racist or a conspiracy theorist
I agree. For the younger generation, it seems to have replaced "misogynist".

>>18475043
Sorry, here you are right. Replace my use of the word abstinence by lack of sex.

>>18475055


OK, RELATIVIST.

>>18475051
Celibacy means sexual abstinence.
Abstinence is choosing not do do something.
Therefore, all celibacy is voluntary.
There is no "involunary celibacy." It's a meaningless misnomer.

>>18475054


1. LIVING IN MATRIMONY DOES NOT NECESSARILY ENTAIL PROCREATION; ONE CAN BE NOT CELIBATE, AND REMAIN CHILDLESS, AND EVEN CHASTE.

2. NOT ONLY IS IT «OK»; IT IS IMPERATIVE —WHY WOULD YOU ENGENDER CHILDREN KNOWING THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE A GOOD PARENT?

>>18475085
I already showed you a different definition of the word celibate from the same dictionary where the it's perfectly possible to be involuntarily celibate, because celibate simply means not engaging in sex.
There are other definitions where it's voluntary, but that's not surprising, a single word can have many meanings.
It seems like you're very surprised by the fact.

>>18475085
>Celibacy means sexual abstinence.


NO; THAT IS CHASTITY.

>>18475085
>You: THE WORD CAN'T POSSIBLE MEAN ITS VOLUNTARILY
>I show you one accepted definition which makes it perfectly possible to be voluntarily
>You: BUT HERES ANOTHER DEFINITION ACCORDING TO WHICH IT CANT POSSIBLY BE INVOLUNTARY
Are you genuinely retarded? Your thesis would only be correct if it couldn't be involuntary according to ALL accepted definitions/meanings of the term. The fact that there is a SINGLE definition which allows it thoroughly refutes your claim. That's all you need.

>>18475006
No word has an intrinsic meaning you pseud.

>>18475006
>All celibacy is voluntary by definition
According to some definitions, which come from the associated religious context. There are definitions according to which it's perfectly possible for it to be involuntary, see
>>18475051
If you want to be ultra pedantic you could look at the root of the term celibate
>Latin caeleb-, caelebs "not having a spouse, unmarried"
No voluntarity is implied.

>>18475099
Thank you, that has taken a load off my mind.

>>18474901
It's been overused to death by retards that use it as a "I don't like you and your views".
>ie. Nazi, Alt-Right, Bigot, Schizo is become like them as well, etc

>>18475105
It's literally in the definition, retard.

>>18475230
I don't think it has any meaning beyond it's use as a crude insult akin to "loser" or "misogynist".

>>18475236
>>18474983

>>18475240
>>18475001

>>18475170
>taking advice from a literal autistic pedo

>>18474983
>involuntary celibacy

>>18474983
>celibate against one's will.
Unless you're kidnapped or in prison, there is no such thing. You can pay women for sex.

>>18475155
>>Latin caeleb-, caelebs "not having a spouse, unmarried"
>No voluntarity is implied.
No sex is mentioned either.

>>18475247
>>18475051

>>18475265
>No sex is mentioned either.
Congratulations, you can read.

>>18474981
>not liberalism

>>18475268
O.K., the dictionary is your bible. Got it.

>>18475099
why do you type like karkat

Meme words end up meaning nothing. They begin as unique and specific and turn into a fog.

>>18475063
>Sorry, use completely different words.

Exactly.