/lit/ - Literature

>>18404435
hard time believing its the western cannon when the dude forgot to put the bible in there

>>18404776
https://michaltheil.wordpress.com/2016/08/26/the-western-canon-harold-bloom/

Bible (KJV) is on Bloom's list. The compiler on list challenges seems to have forgotten a few works.

>>18404435
A few hundreds.

>>18404776
>>18404435
Is two n's in canon some kind of meme or are you guys just retarded

>>18404435
>How much

methodically going through a "canon" sounds like a waste of time. I'd rather find authors I can resonate with and focus on their works instead.

9

I've read probably 3% of his list but 70% of pic related :3

>>18404776
T. Hasn't read the book

>>18404435
I've read around 40, but his list is so full of mostly irrelevant English lit that I would not take it as a reference.

>>18404871
Am confirmed for retarded.

>>18404893
Canon is singular, so both much and many work no?

How much of the canon?
How many books in the canon?

>>18405051
It's a very good guidebook. You don't need to read every book considered a classic, but it's important to be aware of them. I don't follow lists either, but I guarantee that there are plenty of authors on Bloom's who will resonate with you.

>>18405330
Boo!

>>18404843
lol
>>18405280
Good for you anon!
>>18405074
I wish I had your confidence Mr. Gigachad.

>>18405051
imagine reading for pleasure

>>18404435

>>18405051
>Instead
Random Gay Book Fan (You)
Vs
Western Canon Enjoyer (me)

who fucking cares about some hack critic. the western canon existed before Harold bloom you know? its the equivalent of discussing Anthony fantano

>>18405051
You're just comfy not being methodical. I don't defend all the books on the canon but I acknowledge the shoulders of Giants that are presented to me by Bloom, a literature professor (back when they were good at that), who assures me it will resonate with me: a Westerner.

>>18407800
Who cares about what some Michelin star chef has to say about food?
Cuisine existed long before cooking shows, bah! You're basically eating bacon and eggs presented to you by Guy Fieri

>>18407821
Michelin cooks are reviewing new restaurants. bloom is masturbating himself over fucking Shakespeare

Considering I'm a young Zoomer fresh out of school and I read about twice as many works that would have almost made the list like Plato's Republic. I think I'm doin alright amidst the storm cloud of Amerigoblin stupidity. I'm not some Russian Classics baby like I wish I was but I'm struggling alright for myself.

>>18407902
I agree about Shakespeare
>SHAKESPEARE IS THE GREATEST GENIUS OF ALL TIME
>makes dick jokes and illiterate people feel fancy
>Forgettable ghost stories
>Oh lmao he made fun of Jews once and still is taught in Jew schools because hes so gay

>>18404435
Looks interesting.
I wouldn't mind looking into that!

I've been using this as a reading list for about two years, the goal is to finish by 2050

>>18407987
im not making a judgement on Shakespeare but saying that bloom is a waste of space

>>18408038
There has to be a canon collator. If it was E Michael Jones it would be all Catholic shit. Since it's Bloom presenting a case against the School of Resentment but that itself is lacking constructive inherent zeal to really rally people up to a cultural canon.
If only there was a watercolor painter who...

>>18408058
Okay.

>>18404435
oh fuck... i just logged my IP address on a glownigger website

>>18404435
i've read the entire 19th and 20th century american and russian lists respectively, and all of the greeks and romans

why, pray tell, is Indian literature considered part of the Western canon?

>>18408223
because the translation of the indian epics in the 18th and 19th centuries is an important antecedent to much western lit from then and the 20th century. if you're reading thoreau without being familiar with the baghavad-gita, for example, you're missing out on an entire dimension of his thought

>>18404805
Yeah, """""""forgotten"""""""

>>18408037
2050 might be pretty ambitious, there are some real doorstoppers that have single line entries. like the collected short stories of henry james takes up something like 5 LOA volumes

>>18408279
(((((((((them/they))))))))

>>18404435
142, impressive list actually thanks for listing. I just read stuff in my dad’s library my goal is to have a library as good as his when I’m his age.

>>18408361
me too

>>18408293
Yeah, it's a lot and I expect to probably fail within the decade but it's fun to have a grand project and however much I end up reading I'll have read some great books

>>18406170
>>18406183
>>18407790
>>18407808
That's not the point, how can you say you truly love a book if you won't even try to understand the author on a more intimate level?

>>18408716
To elaborate a bit more, for example what can you say you truly understand about McCarthy's style by beelining straight towards Blood Meridian and enjoying a good chunk of his other works?

>>18408716
To elaborate a bit more, for example what can you say you truly understand about McCarthy's style by beelining straight towards Blood Meridian and ignoring a good chunk of his other works?

>>18408485
you absolutely will, it's a really solid list. good luck!

>>18404435
did kantbot lose weight?

>>18408733
Reads like you think people are supposed to Only read the canon. Canon means having read these books is the absolute baseline for an educated westerner, a point to start from.

>>18407821
You're a fucking retard, Bloom is a base critic who drastically falls short of others that came before him. No one takes him seriously outside of psueds on /lit/ that get mad at other people for not "reading the western canon!!" while they do minimal reading and play video games all day anyway. Reactionaries will always have terrible lit criticisms.

>>18409752
Sorry I didn't catch anyone else before the world got censored into a steaming pile of apeshit, asshole.

>>18404435
Lots of irrelevant poets and political/compensatory picks. I give it a 7/10.

>>18408733
That's too precise for the use case of a canon being urged to the public being force fed the school of Resentment which is the resisting purpose of his canon. It's not the best top 30 authoritative list of all time. It's just a collation of recommendations to endure the heckling of university kikes so young readers like me can still pretend to have the peaceful time to make it to pleasure reading as if the culture didn't immolate into twerking smithereens.

>>18409860
Amen
Jane Austen is basically country club Nicki Minaj

>>18407800
>its the equivalent of discussing Anthony fantano
>Renown academic with a lifelong passion about literature who has penned dozens of books vs youtuber
You really need to go back

>>18409874
Tbh I discuss Anthony Fantano to an unhealthy degree. I made many memes of him and Sam Hyde around 2016.

>>18409860
What would be the /lit/ patrician supremacist canon?

>>18409752
Name one other. Better yet a handful

>>18409894
No women, no niggers, nothing published after 1985, simple as

>>18404435
I just realized I need to buy a rocking chair asap
Also gonna start smoking again

>>18409900
T.S Eliot
Ezra Pound
Samuel Butler
Woolf
Potentially:
Jean-Paul Sartre
John Updike
Hugh Kenner

>>18409874
And yet after reading the first two chapters of his defense of the western canon I got nothing out of it I couldn't have learned from a wikipedia skim. Compared to other literary criticisms it's really lacking, his chapter on Dante was pitiful.

>>18409944
I googled em all + canon and didn't find anything except TS Elliot having one obscure paper on the Ideology of Canon Formation.
Looks like no one but Bloom bothered to reach out to the public at large to suggest a canon and everyone you listed was content to aim their discussion among literary critics. That's keeping the circle closed. Such a public announcement is crucial and scarce and makes Bloom unique though not among Literature professors.

>>18410019
I don't give a shit about the "canon", you asked for literary critics and I gave you some. The fact that you had to Google most of those is embarrassing, how have you not heard of T.S Eliot or Ezra Pound?

All of them have notable literary criticisms from most of the authors included in Blooms book, most notably the poets like Dante and Shakespeare, and they write at a far more academic level. Without having to shamelessly repeat the concept of the western canon repeatably, Hugh Kenner discusses at length how Homer, and Dante etc. Greatly impacted literature. Buzzwords are for undergrads, be better.

>>18410060
I don't give a shit about your critics I came here for the canon. Looks like you're one of those English majors who can't communicate in English

>>18410060
Literally no one gives a shit about your critics but your critics themselves