/lit/ - Literature

>>18335279
Fuck anime. Fuck Sanderson. Fuck China

>>18335325
China is the modern mecca of good fantasy literature.

>>18335279
Fuck you anime OP. Back when you only were taking over the wg threads with your anime faggotry thanks to time and inactivity as your super power i was gonna compare the wg and the ssfg OP pics to show how differentiated the threads could feel with the different styles and genres of the first image. Now it’s just the same mostly green and purple anime girls covering every single thread. Fuck you.

I like anime and anyone who doesnt is a faggot

>>18335384
I like anime too, but i don’t want to have it all over my face all the time. To put it another way: i like anime, but i like other things too. OP is making me like anime less thanks to the implicit association he is forcing on us when we start associating anime with a sperglord who only knows one thing: anime waifus (in the light purple/green shades). Fuck him, if he ain’t willing to compromise for the sakenof others he deserves all the misery in his life.

>>18335384
Then I'm a faggot. Now fuck of this thread.

>>18335384
This, already there's a redditor blogposting and shitting his pants itt because of chinese cartoons

>Rewatch Lawrence of Arabia tonight
>Reread Dune last month.

Oh, I get it now.

>>18335405
In the end, the Arabs ended up being a bad guys. Just like the Fremens.

Love Taylor from Worm.
I get that it's part of her character to not be very introspective but i think the author should've expanded more on her character. I mean, we can know everything about her by reading it carefully, but I think he could add things. She's too precious.

>>18335371
Time to make /wssfg/ again, go ahead and do it.

>>18335393
Fuck you, you're not allowed to like different things in different ways. Everything has to be as condensed and marketable as possible

>>18335431
Web "novels" are on the same level as fanfiction. Read a real book.

>>18335498
You're right but Worm is actually good. Better than Sanderson and the majority of the shit we discuss here.

>>18335498
>the state of fiction book readers
Time to read the Greeks huh

Is there even any point to reading a fantasy novel in which the hero is not an existentialist?

>>18335541
No. it's why i like worm

>>18335551
Shut up about the Worm. SHUT UP ABOUT THE WORM!

currently back on a fantasy tip after mainly reading history non-fiction for a few years and really enjoying it
>left hand of darkness
this was great
>under heaven
great so far
>re-reading silmarillion
awesome

I just finishes Book 7 of Wheel of Time (a crown of swords.) People really were not exaggerating here, nothing much of worth happened in this book. Rand spent most of his time agonizing about everything, Perrin just dicked around before leaving Cairhien with his wife. Mat got raped. Even with all of that, I still had a good time with it and that's because I skipped all POV chapters that were not the main three characters. It honestly makes it all go by so much faster.

>>18335785
>re-reading silmarillion
Based. I've read it twice and listened to the audiobook. Absolutely love it.

>>18335807
Thought it couldn't get worse after Ebou Dar. First chapters of PoD proved me wrong.

silmarillion? more like sillymarillion hehe

Someone in that /v/ thread brought up how Tara's Ascension may have cured his Cultivation boon magic. Too bad Stormlight is shit and payoffs would be like a ruined orgasm, at best.

>>18334991
Yes, modern non-genre literature is pathetic, I agree.

Any fantasy or science fiction novels that have love triangles that ends like pic related? It could also be web novels and self-publish novels as well.

>>18336273
God Emperor of Dune.

>>18335325
Brando sando is god

>>18335348
Examples? Trying to get into chink stuff

>>18335348

>>18336061
>book shit in vidya
When does this ever happen? I thought games just adapted movie adaptations, at best.

i finished blindsight since it was in these threads a lot and enjoyed it well enough. started echopraxia and i'm very confused
>don't mention anything from the first book in the first 100 pages at least
>new protagonist is a completely different socially shunned autist specialist
>who also has a dead wife
>who also finds himself on a spaceship captained by a vampire
>under assault from possible extraterrestrials
very weird decisions to make but i will read on bc the alien biology is fun to read about

>author uses words that aren't in any english kindle dictionary
>not even on the first page of google

>>18336546
Reverend Insanity for villain protag. Once upon a time there was a spirit sword mountain for another psychological story.

The Legendary Mechanic for litrpg.

Warlock of the Magus World for fantasy world with magic snakes that MC explores through a nanochip. Age of Adepts for similar premise.

King of Gods for fantasy progression. Desolate Era is another name for the board. Add to that A record of a mortal's journey to immortality. A Will Eternal for comedy.

Against the Gods for edgy MC. Renegade Immortal for less edgy MC.

These should get you started.

>>18336567
Kek

>>18336818
I don't think I need to spoiler this as I recall that it's mentioned fairly early, but the military guy is the father of the protagonist from Blindsight. That being said, I didn't like Echopraxia at all. It felt like an Alien vs. Aliens situation, where Blindsight is this slow-burn almost horror novel, and Echopraxia is trying to jump around to different action set pieces.

Are there any fun reads with Pirates that aren't written for youth or a romance novel? Would like to read something dark and adventurous, open to suggestions as goodreads seems to only pull up romance or historical options.

>>18336891
Find what Hollywood used for inspiration for Black Sails?

>>18336911
Good thought, I've read Treasure Island already but will take a look if there's mention of other books.

https://www.deviantart.com/uthp/journal/The-Legend-of-Twilight-Zelda-Princess-part-I-348420007

pic related?

>>18336891

>>18335325
first post blessed post

Modern fantasy writers don't read anything except other fantasy books and it's starting to show. For once, could we get a fantasy author that comes from a literary background? Who will be the next Wolfe or Tolkien?

>>18336870
All absolute fanfic tier machine translated garbage and none of it is literature in any way, shape, or form. Kill yourself.

>>18336801
When Brandon and the creative designed for Fortnite are both friends + Muslim.

FUCK PATRICK ROTHFUSS

>>18337090
designer*

>>18337096
The ultimate redditor.

>>18335279
It physically sickens me to be posting in a purported /sffg/ thread with such a cringe and obnoxious anime op image.
It is time for another /wsffg/ thread my brothers.

>>18337164
doubling down on sabotaging the thread

>>18337089
Fucking based.

Fuck China, Taiwan is real China anyways.

>>18336891
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30308167-the-hand
Also as the other anon suggested On Stranger Tides is a great pirate story.

Anyone else get this anxious suspicion after finishing a good book/series that you've read all the fiction that you'd enjoy now, and you'll find no more you can really sink into?

>>18337089
Based. Go make a Chinese SFF thread instead of spamming that shit here and responding to yourself.

>>18337004
>>18337270
Thanks! I'll give both a go.

>>18337279
>being this delusional

>>18337270
>2 gayreads votes in 5 years
kvlt

>>18337164
I made another thread: >>18337384

>>18336273
Manga is not true literature.

>...and I, upon re-reading The Eye of the World, have gone through cycles where I was like, "Oh, this is clearly Robert Jordan's weakest writing, he gets better as a writer from here," but he's still damn good. Like, he still [has] wonderful prose that a lot of people write off, but he does the Sanderson approach, where there's a lot of simplicity to what he puts forth but there's also so much beauty, and the practical nature of the soul of his writing really allows you to feel the more country lens we're supposed to be being told this story through.
Thoughts? It seems with the Amazon series coming out in a few months a lot of people are reading WoT and I was thinking about doing the same. To the anons who have read it, is it any good? I'm a bit wary of starting a 14-book-long series

>>18337418
Oh come on, fag, what part of this doesn't seem like a deep and thought-provoking literary work?

>>18330519
>>18330554
I was the complete opposite way, they are clearly the most interesting part of the book.
What other novel has medieval alien society made up of tiny hive minds ?

>>18337418
>tfw manga is about the only thing I've been reading for well over a decade still waiting for answers

>>18337388
checked and thanks

Is Dante's Inferno fantasy?

>>18337896
Not really no. The most you could say, if you really reached, is that it is an early example of what Mendlesohn defines as a 'portal-quest' similar to The Chronicles of Narnia, in which real life people are transported to a fantastical world/taken on a fantastic journey. This falls apart, however, because the fantastical world(s) in Inferno are based on real-world religious beliefs and symbols; it is not an author-constructed world, so it does not truly qualify as 'fantasy'

god is lotr boring

>>18337896
It's fanfiction

>>18337989
No, I found it quite entertaining.

Is it good?

>>18337989
I'm with you, although the hobbit was quite good

>>18337388
Mental illness, thank you for containing it

>>18338001
God is number 001. The first out of the void (000). Math checks out.

>>18337989
Well I like it.

This was neat. Basically the author was mixed up in the British occult scene in his youth, eventually got spooked by it, turned to Christianity and became a vicar, and then wrote a couple of books about normal people fighting against Satan backed occultists.

>>18337096
Why?

>>18337088
>For once, could we get a fantasy author that comes from a literary background? Who will be the next Wolfe or Tolkien?
Never. Because people still look down on fantasy and to a lesser extent, on science fiction. I wish it weren’t true, but it is. How do we change people’s mind first, is the question you should be asking.

>>18338347
What does a literary background even mean? It's not like all modern fantasy is being written by nerds, we got Piranesi just last year

Fuck E William Brown
Fuck pay pigs
Fuck pay walls
Fuck incommunicado
Fuck delays
Fuck push backs
Fuck laziness
Fuck you

>>18338308
fuck off pat, go cry on twitch

>>18338356
>What does a literary background even mean?
Honestly? The concept has always been fairly nebulous. Reading some of the rewards made me realize that it’s mostly an elitist and snobby attitude.

>>18338363
Looks like someone is having a melty.

>>18338374
I'm not opposed to elitism, i just think being imprecise opens it up to retards claiming an undeserved spot. I would guess that most of the recent hugo noms have "literary" backgrounds, but i certainly don't want to read their books

>>18335516
This can’t be true.

>>18333415
Wait... Did Sanderson really make that video game he was going on about for years?

>>18338439
Yes? Can’t you see? It’s what every mistborn fan wanted.

>>18336870
After reading reverend insanity everything else just becomes trash

>>18338474
I thought it was some fornite or pugG skin or something

>>18338594
Yeah, it’s what every mistborn fan wanted.

Bros what the FUCK is this called? Just the bottom half of a robe or what?

>>18338767
A robe?

>>18338767
Pussy deflector.

>>18338767
I'm pretty sure the guy wearing this is the cuck in every fantasy NTR CG set I've seen.

>>18338767
Dark Souls calls it a "Waistcloth", as to avoid calling it what it really is: a skirt.

>>18338381
Looks like someone is new here.

>>18338227
I read this when I was a kid but I don't remember anything.

>>18336801
there was a wheel of time vidya long ago

>>18339030
Looks like someone likes watching their mom getting fucked by a never ending series of Taiwanese ladyboys.

>>18335279
Having the mirror be a screen will never be a thing.
We can already look at our hands and see all of that at any time. But there's one thing everything else can't do, and that's be a mirror.
We don't need to look at ourselves to check the weather or read twitter.
It's a cute picture. But ultimately pointless otherwise we'd all already have it, because we can already do that. But the result is that the mirror is worse, and the browsing is worse.
Is it an invention? Yeah. Does it combine things? Yeah. But since it's worse at both and will always, no matter how far technology advances, be worse. It won't be mainstream. Unless we're getting to Futurama light-speed briefs tier, in which case, the future mirror is still worse at it's job than a mirror performing it's primary function.

>>18339095
How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real

>>18339116
Oh shit. You're right.

>>18339095
You’ve seen some of the houses/apartments that cost millions to buy? They will have these type of mirrors if they existed.

>>18339095
I agree that using it as a shittier tablet like in the op pic is a dumb idea, but I could see uses for having the mirror be a screen. Imagine if it were capable of projecting various makeup or hairstyle looks onto your reflection, giving you the option to sort through what will look best with your outfit in more than just imagination. I could imagine that being an actual value add for many women.

>>18335393
Based and well said.

Romance books...

>>18339440
The only romance I need is a 100 page rape scene.

>>18339454
it better end in a forced kiss

>>18339440
I wish I had saved that image I posted a few months back regarding romance books destroying every other genre in sales.

>>18339456
No, they end with cervical and rectal prolapse.

>>18339454
what is the optimal length of a rape scene?

>>18339501
Novella length.

>>18339501
7 books.

>>18339170
I agree.
But retinal scanning and facial recognition will need to advance significantly.
>>18339153
Don't get me wrong. I see the novelty of putting a TV in one. But usually it's in the top corner out of the way where you're looking. I think it looks nicer than having a shelf above your mirror with a TV on it at least.
It would make me feel important to listen to the news while I shower like in every disaster movie and then they turn off the water and peek their head out with a shocked face.

>>18339501
A 90 minute audiobook read by the Micro Machine Man.

>>18336801
Epic has an unprecedented amount of money and can afford to spend it breaking established video game conventions. I expect we will see more book collabs in the future.

>>18339515
>>18339557
>>18339595
Add all of these together and you'll have the optimal lenght.

>>18335431
I hated a lot about Worm, the constant escalation, constantly incompetant authority figures, the brooding, etc. But I do agree that Taylor's great.

I know isekai is an oversaturated market but I kinda want to write a comedy about a ragtag gang channers getting stuck in a fantasy world and ruining everything.

Any advice/ideas?

>>18339967
I have a couple of isekai ideas I'll never work on too:
>two teenagers into metal, one dies young, the other one dies as a family man
>family man discovers his friend hasn't aged, and has turned the fantasy world into a grimdark "metal" shithole, calls it cringe, and quests to clean this shit up
>dumpy teenager dies at the skatepark and instead of doing the quest to save the fantasy world he just sidequests to create a half pipe and invent the BMX so he can use healing magic to get gud at extreme sports

>>18340006
I have a couple of isekai ideas I'll never work on too:
>two teenagers into metal, one dies young, the other one dies as a family man
>family man discovers his friend hasn't aged, and has turned the fantasy world into a grimdark "metal" shithole, calls it cringe, and quests to clean this shit up

I quite like this idea.

>>18335516
LMAO my highschool literature teacher was a fan of this children series. She was one of the biggest pseuds ever, she even said when the greeks talked about elders they meant 40 yos and other sort or retarded myths and was a hardcore sjw. She was hot af though, I wanted to cum insed her womanlet cunny every time I saw her perfect body.

I just finished The Priest's Tale and I am floored. If the first story in the book is that amazing I'm not at all ready for the rest of it. I understand now why this keeps coming up in book threads all over 4chan.

>>18336021
I skipped those, phew.

>>18336021
You ain't seen nothing yet. 9 is 500 pages of nothing followed by 300 pages of amazing, then 10 may as well not even exist.

>>18337088
Steven erikson went to the Iowa writers workshop.

so what's the deal with liu cixin?
about 50 pages into three body and it sure seems like he's just doing a basic bitch faith in the institution of science thing, believes in such a thing as separation of politics from academia, has the optimistic star trek tier view of science where it's a collective human endeavor or whatever. which is all perfectly standard sci fi. but I was hoping for like... a CHINESE sci fi, almost a different genre. not something that fucking netflix could possibly pick up (evidently they are)

>>18339557
>And it seemed the most mad thing, both in and of itself, and relative to him and his yearning. At long last he could scry the distance, pace the cubits, between here and the dread end that had given meaning to every instant of his life.

>>18340239
the pessimism hits hard later

>>18336818
You should read this short story, it is both good and set between the two novels.
https://www.tor.com/2014/07/29/the-colonel-peter-watts/

>>18335405
no, paul is actually supposed to be this dude

Fëanor did Nothing Wrong. Anyone whom denies his rightful rule and claim deserved to be kinslayed.

>>18340320
oh right, the murders...

>>18337088
Bakker comes from a philosophy background and I'd put him up at the top of the genre.

>>18340408
>Cuckold
>top of the genre.
I swear, the shitposts have gotten worst.

>>18340444
not an argument

>>18340320
I've read the silmarillion so many times the cover fell off and don't remember any of that

On the last chapter of this. The ending is going to suck, isn't it? It's not just the consul's story, but the entire ending left and it's the shortest chapter by far. I read The Terror first and that has a garbage ending too.

>>18340515
>don't remember any of that
Previous pic is from one of Tolkien's unfinished poems.
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/The_Flight_of_the_Noldoli_from_Valinor
The excerpt is also in the book The Fall of Gondolin.

I believe the version in the Silmarillion is almost the exact same, but in prose.

Can anyone give me a book about rebuilding in a post apocalyptic wasteland? preferably with lots of worldbuilding and building stuff. Pic unrelated but big booba.

>>18340444
checked and just because you are insecure with your own sexuality does not make bakker a bad writer. you obviously have never bothered to read his work / were filtered by it. many such cased

>>18340694
I'm very secure with my besxuality. Why's that always the go-to?

>>18340725
Why is hating Bakker simply because there are some themes of cuckoldry in his works always the go-to?

>>18340531
The first book is only half of the story. Congrats on making it to the end. Now start the second book. No, it's not as good as the first, but it's still good.

>>18340875
Because I don't want to read about cuckoldry. I don't understand why that's unreasonable.

>>18340120
It'll only get better, especially the scholar.

>>18340665
Someone might have a better recommendation. But The Broken Earth series does have post apocalyptic rebuilding. It's not the sole focus. You'll still have to deal with fantasy magic, and characters going on adventures, and interpersonal stuff. But also, an element is how people manage to survive post apocalypse. To the point where apocalyptic survival has become a religion. And everyone prepares for it, following strict codes and laws. In the latter part of the story, they find a new place to set up camp and build there, so it's a theme throughout the series.

>>18340968
the building stuff, is not described in particular detail
even the logistic of actually surviving is sort of skirted round
in the end they just find a magic rock to live inside of

>>18341070
Yeah the skirt over the particulars. That's why I figure someone else would have a better recommendation. Still, they get into a bit of it. Like people's rolls and duties and distrust of outsiders.

>>18340665
Emberverse series.

>>18341108
Mhm, it's just more like a set piece, dressing.
Even if the apocalypse itself of course is essential to the plot.
Doesn't go into details. Or rather the details it goes into, like it's special take on common-sense/pragmatism, are fictional inventions from the author, rather than being actually pragmatic.
I just can imagine how autistic this stuff could get if it was written by someone that had real life experience with the intricacies of bomb-shelters or doomsday prepping.

Fantasy books having (plot)-holes? Call the presses! Guess I'm complaining just for the sake of it. I like logical coherency + detail.

Sill, It bothered me.
recently read a fiction book that featured a lot of, sailing. It was apparent the author had real experience with sailing, it made the chapters vivid, and a learning experience for me. Interesting stuff.

>>18341256
That would be an interesting genre. "Survival Fiction" or something like that. There's a video game that's about resurrecting the world. First starting with plants, then bird and other animals, then humans, then pushing human invention in order to advance society. It didn't go into any particulars. But it did have this really awesome sense of revitalization.

This was a rollercoaster and a half, I had a whale of a time. Any time something good happens it kicks your teeth in, but also it's only like 200 pages so it's fast as fuck. There was sort of an infodump at the end, but it was pretty justified for the final, final, final reveal.

>>18340665
canticle for liebowitz
damnation alley

>>18335807
>skipped
I see no value in reading if you do this. You should be reading something where you don't have to skip.

>>18338008
I enjoyed it anyway.

>>18339967
>>18340006
Make this happen. 4 friends, one of them turns into a normie hero and the others have to set him straight.

>>18340665
The Commonweal series by Greydon Saunders, first book is something of a Black Company pastiche while the second is set after the commonweal has to split in half (plague of demons, that sort of thing) at the end of the first and is instead mostly about some trainee sorcerers learning to not die from their powers and helping rebuild stuff.

>>18340239
My man. That book is 50% Chinese communism.
How much more Chinese do you want?
It doesn't get any more fucking chinese than the buff rude cop who drinks and smokes.

Like I get what you mean. You wanted a different people's take on sci-fi. But the Chinese aren't actually aliens. I begrudgingly accept that they're human like us. They have the internet too and there's not a fucker there under the age of 70 who's going to be able to draw upon old Chinese thought because it's been erased by communism. So the world gets a little more grey, and a lot less colorful.

>>18341496
>You should be reading something where you don't have to skip
Why though? If I enjoy certain parts of a book and want to get more of it without reading through the unenjoyable parts, what's wrong with skipping them?

>>18341805
Not him, but don't you see the problem with this in the long run? You're going to lose track of the plot, and then even the good chapters will fall apart, as you don't know what's happening or why.

>>18341833
>You're going to lose track of the plot, and then even the good chapters will fall apart, as you don't know what's happening or why.
I mean, I only skip something if it reads like filler, WoT is a big offender of this. It's not like I finish all the books I read, in fact i tend to drop a book if its not enjoyable anymore, it's just that if a book still has interesting parts in it for me, then I'd rather skip or skim to those parts.

>>18335325
word
but also litrpgs

>>18335431
>She's too precious
Of all the miserable cunts to waifu

>>18339967
I've been toying around with a version of this but a young woman who was transported to a world, becomes queen/magical powers, has children. In the new world lore she randomly disappears but she went into some odd hibernation shit, when she wakes up the kingdom that she built or help make has been shitfucked by her great-grandchildren and now she's having to unfuck everything and murder her own descendants while figuring out how to get back to her original world.

>>18342363
Reminds me of Charlotte has Five Disciples

I read books to escape from reality
also link is my current mood
https://youtu.be/lV0KmZKyUzA

>>18342370
That sounds really fun, is it good? The story I'm aiming for is going more for gritty and dark but dunno if that will have a market

>>18342403
It's ok. I'm not much of a shoujo reader

About to start the first GoT book, I've managed to avoid everything and anything about the series besides some images of a midget. Does this series have any magic?

>>18342674
Why would you read a series that will never be finished? I could understand starting it years ago when it still seemed possible but doing it now just seems silly.

>>18342692
it's about the journey, not the destination. I don't regret reading berserk and I might even reread, despite it never getting finished

>>18342718
Well, it's up to you. As for your question, yes it does have magic, though you won't see it much. Also since you're content with things not being resolved: I recommend only reading the first three books, as the fourth and fifth are where the author lost control of the story.

>>18342727
>as the fourth and fifth are where the author lost control of the story.
Worldbuilding fags like these, though, since they don't care about story progression.

>>18340159
>followed by 300 pages of amazing
That would make it the best book in the series. I know what happens at the end there but I refuse to believe Jordan wrote an ending that is not his usual, 20 page rushed mess.

>>18340315
Maybe, but O'Toole's blue eyes are ridiculously striking against the reds and browns of the desert and dirt. They stand out like high beams and I refuse to believe that Herbert didn't see the film and then take the whole blue eye thing from that.

What is the point of reading normal fantasy when grimdark exists?

>>18343173
People enjoy stories about good people triumphing over the bad. Ever since we first tasted that delicious apple in the garden we've been cursed by the knowledge of good and evil. In our busy daily lives it is refreshing to take a step back into that sweet Being of ancient man: to see black and white, and not gray.

>>18343184
>stories about good people triumphing over the bad
This is perhaps the most fantastical aspect of normal fantasy. Yet it's ironically the most boring.

>>18343184
except when a mid to high quality story of evil proragonist is released and it tops all charts

>>18335384
anime is alright but people who like anime are subhumans and i don't want them here

Personally I can only relate to the grimmest, most evil protagonists.

>>18343235
>story of evil proragonist is released and it tops all charts
You know who buys this shit? Women. Women love their psycho.

>>18343244
Reminder that the greatest modern work of speculative fiction is a visual novel.

>>18343254
You have to go back. This weebshit wasn't even written by a professional writer. Neck yourself.

>>18343262
>professional
>member of a profession or any person who earns their living from a specified professional activit
Bakkerfag outed himself as an uneducated prick, worser than even weebshit since they at least have the capacity to read

>>18343262
What makes a writer a "professional" other than being paid for and making a living from his writing? Even if you want to restrict the term to those who have published proper novels, it has no intrinsic bearing on the quality of a work.

>>18343276
You haven't even this VN. And it's off topic. Fuck off.

>>18343262
It's a professional product, not a doujin game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1BlbTjDUV8

>>18343279
>>18343276
You know exactly what is meant by this statement. The author doesn't have a background in writing. Even the Japanese think VNfags are the most autistic of the autistic. They're a laughingstock.

>>18343254
>>18343286
This is LITERALLY against the rules of the board. Not just in a vague shitposting sense, but DIRECTLY against the rules. You need to go back.

>>18343288
All genre writers are a laughingstock to the literary establishment.

>>18343297
Then report me so our dear janny can do his job.

>>18343301
VN writers would be at the absolute bottom of this barrel of embarrassment.

>>18343308
They generally are. I actually agree with you, but the one I posted is an exception and the peak of the medium.

>>18343312
Don't pretend that you've read it. I'd take the Bakkerposters over this autism.

>>18340531
And now it's time to move on to Simmons' Pajeet masterpiece. :3

>>18343320
I'll post about it again once the translation gets released. It' supposed to be later this year, so you can verify my claim then if you so choose.

>>18343329
How about you take your own life instead?

/vn/ has a dedicated janny that camps the thread to corral such autism so popping in here and seeing someone sperging the fuck out over VNs of all things is sadly no surprise.
plotge > moege

>>18343345
At least the Chinkposters are on-topic. This VN autism has absolutely nothing to do with this board or general.

>>18343337
無理

>>18343355
Coming from the guy invading a different board to spam his autism.

>>18343361
>invading
I read western SFF and post here fairly often. I also hate anime for what it's worth. Do I have /sffg/ cred now?

It's not too late for a /bakkgen/ my fellow Dunyain, there's enough Meat (no pun intended, lol) to Bakker's work for a thread of its own, free of orientalist influence.

>>18343375
Clearly you do not since you'd know better than to explode in fits of off-topic autism. Go back to /jp/, /vg/ or /a/. Take your pick, or, you know, stop behaving like a fucking retard and shut the fuck up about your VNs on this board. If a single person reports your posts, you're likely getting a nice vacation.

>>18343379
This troubles me.

>>18343382
I'm afraid I didn't "explode" into anything. I made a simple post and you choose to start an argument with me about it.

>>18343388
I wish we could get "troubled" together in /bakkgen/ if you catch my double-entendre ;)

>>18343382
Yep, this definitely isn't autistic cross-board bait. Completely innocuous, not intended for any kind of extensive fits of autistic rage at all. Stop posting at any time. >>18343254

>>18343397
Then report it and hide the post. Why do you continue the discussion?

>>18343404
Why do you? You've achieved your goal.

>>18343404
Because he's a dumbshit newfag crossboarder who craves attention and you're a dumbshit newfag who has been shoveling it into his mouth since he started his tantrum against your VN.

>>18343408
I had no goal.
>>18343411
Very rude.

>>18343417
Uh-huh. Surely cross-board posting about something from an entirely different medium, stating that it is superior to anything /lit/ related is definitely not agenda driven shitposting in the slightest. Give it a fucking rest.

>>18343254
he says, but doesn't post muvluv
??

>>18343422
I only stated the truth. You don't have to get mad about it.
>>18343426
Because it's better than MLA.

Shut the fuck up about anime and visual novels. Just fucking stop, you absolute permavirgin autists. This shit can't go on. Find a different general to derail and destroy. Shit's already bad enough as is with the wuxiaposters and occasional Bacuck.

Now, is anyone actually reading anything /sffg/ related or what? Shards of Earth came out a few days ago, and it's great. Space opera with some Lovecraftian elements.

>>18343432
It's irrelevant whether one thing is better than the other. It's off topic posted solely to derail and bait. Grow up.

I find it funny that the 3 first fantasy series I read 6 years ago, still hasn't had their sequels come out yet (asoiaf, locke lamora, kingkiller chronicles)
what's their problem?

>>18343510
Some people are creatively bankrupt and extremely lazy.

>>18343510
I don't read anything until it's finished.

>>18343557
>missing out on the journey
Reading a complete series back-to-back isn't as SOULFUL as following along and waiting years between entries.

>>18343562
I'd probably forget lots of shit in between.

>>18343173
I like grimdark but I had when the writer is a sociopath writing for sociopaths. a character that isn't driven by empathy is boring and wastes a dark world.

>>18343568
The SOULFUL is in the rereading before new release comes.

>>18343625
>rereading
I've read like 10 000 books, but I've never re-read one

>>18340694
>NOOOOO YOU DIDNT READ IT
>OK YOU DID BUT YOU JUST GOT FILTERED!

>>18343658
Are you 75 years old?

>>18339465
Is it any wonder? Lonely middle-aged women make up a massive share of the market and trashy romance novels can be cranked out fast and read faster.

>>18343379
I support this. Every God-fearing /sffg/ citizen should advocate for /bakkgen/.

>>18343625
This. If you've ever followed a TV series to its completion, it's a lot like that. You're much more invested by being along for the ride for years instead of just binge watching/reading an entire series in one go.

>>18343379
Loved the TV adaptation. Those inchoroi looked so scary, I’m glad they used old school puppets not cgi for them and the sranc. But the books filtered me, couldn’t get past the vocabulary

>>18343917
What did you think of the rape scenes? Were they well adapted to TV?

>>18343379
>The Xiuhanni Invasions

>>18335279
reading Past Master rn

>>18343844
Nothing's stopping anyone from making a /bakkgen/.

>North is the sea, which I have not mentioned before, and will not again. Expeditions cross into the desert, and the jungles house the Island and its inmates, but the sea is no place for human life, even for a moment. North from Shadrapar lies a barren, rock-strewn beach leading jaggedly down to the poisoned shore. It is not water, as we understand it, that makes up that sea. It is some chemical-laced potion fatal to life, and yet inimitable to death as well. The tiny micro-animals that are responsible for decay and renewal are as averse to the sea as we are. If you ventured down to the tide’s edge you would see a rolling expanse of black fluid out as far as the eye could see, and everywhere across it you would see the bodies: of fish and marine creatures, and the occasional luckless human being. The species of animal to be found floating on the tide are all extinct, and have been for millennia. There are bizarre and astonishing prodigies there that have no equal anywhere on Earth. Everything is preserved in its final attitude of twisted, envenomed death, and will no doubt still be there when the sun consumes the Earth and brings the whole sad show to an end. I looked upon the sea just once in my life, and that through a telescope, and never wished to do so again. Some who make the sea their study claim that there are things that make the waters move, and feed on those unnaturally maintained corpses. I believe none of it. The sea is death’s unchanging kingdom on Earth, and it has no part in this story. My story is, despite all that has happened, one of hope, and there is no hope for the oceans.

>>18344008
From?

>>18344081
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40803025-cage-of-souls

>Anime OP
>Webnovels
>Booktubers
>Gookbooks
Damn, this general has gone to shit.

>>18338433
http://www.heliotropemag.com/Issue01/pdf/Heliotrope_pg32-38_SkepticalFantasist.pdf

>>18344199
Just report or hide off-topic posts and move on. These idiots just want your attention, and they'll keep doing it as long as it works.

fantasy sci fi is the Logical Conclusion of the fantasy genre

Webnovels will inherit the world.

>>18343924
Well I’m glad the producers respected the author’s intentions and almost all the rape was implied or shown off-screen. Just like in the books.

>>18344547
But anon. Bakker's entire body of work is just one never ending rape scene.

>>18343379
>“Wuxia is naught but a window into my House,” the Dark God-Emperor said. “You have seen what awaits you. Adore Bakker, or suffer eternal floods of weeb trash…”

>>18338008
I picked up the novel and would be curious to hear others' thoughts.

>>18339967
source?

>>18340968
I don't understand the hype with this series. Oh, wow, three womyn can bend elements to their will. Oh, no, some of them is oppressed by the bad ((white)) man. That's most of the plot. This series only got awards because some nigger bitch wrote it, and the people running SF awards didn't want to get mobbed by leftists.

>>18344654
BIPOC SFF is the true kino of /lit/.

This is better than malazan or the second apocalyse to be honest, dont understand why you guys hate it

>>18344859
This is bait

>>18344859
This is why:


Samantha
Oct 08, 2015
Samantha rated it did not like it
One star. Because holy fuck. We see you. We see you at Comic Con and at NerdCon and at PAX. We see you doing this podcast. And that podcast. We see you writing short stories, novellas, and contributing to anthologies. We see you hawking Kickstarter shit and writing for video games. We now see that you're doing some nonsense about ancient gods and monsters on the History Channel (really, The History Channel? Really?). We see you traveling here, and traveling there. We see you with Worldbuilders. We see you writing approximately 10,000 words for your blog each week.

If you can do all that, I know, and so does everyone else at this point, that you have had time to finish your book, and for whatever reasons (I can certainly speculate that it has a lot to do with you being so scared you'd rather hide under copious amounts of blankets than release the final book and possibly have to read a negative review of it based solely upon the contents of the book rather than your readers' growing impatience) you're choosing not to. Instead you're choosing to play Neil Gaiman, which is all well and fine, except that Neil Gaiman isn't doing everything he's doing instead of the one thing he promised his readers a decade ago.

So I don't know. Maybe in seven more years you'll release book three. Maybe it will be as good as the two proceeding it. Maybe it will be a hot pile of steaming horseshit. What I do know is that I (and I'm sure multitudes of others) will never read anything ongoing by you again.

>>18344910
I feel like name of the wind is the most literary fantasy book ive read, it reminds me of reading real literature

>>18344912
>boo hoo wheres the third book
I would honestly be fine if rothfuss never writes anything again, name of the wind is the best fantasy book in the past 20 years and hes earned his place in fantasy royalty

>>18344939
>it reminds me of reading real literature
kek, reminds me of a real shitpost

Is this worth reading? I was watching the show and got to season 2 before I found out one of the actors got #MeToo'd off the show.

>>18344912
Unpopular opinion: You're not entitled to a sequel or whatever the author wants to do. If GRRM wants he can jack off into an empty book and sell it to you as the final installment of ASOIAF.

>>18344953
maybe because i actually read real literature I can recognize literary merit in a fantasy book, compared to people who only read fantasy and judge fantasy books based on other fantasy books

>>18344962
I'm judging you right now.

>Starks
>are just and rightful 90% the time (though some like Eddard and Bram are 100% of the time)
>Lannisters
>are cruel and evil 90% of the time
>haha see how my favorite series is grey! So adult!
Fucking hate those ASOIAF faggots that think their series isn't about good vs evil.

>>18341833
It's WoT, there are whole books where nothing happens but braid-tugging and skirt-smoothing.

>>18345021
you'll notice that most of the fantasy series that got popular post-1990s are actually trash

>>18335807
Jordan is great at worldbuilding, but he got lost in his own "I'm a slow writer that writes slow stories with details that nobody care and I fucking love it" character.

It's still along with MBotF my favorite series of the 90s/00s though.

>Gene Wolfe is our Melville
>Philip K. Dick is our Faulkner
...who is our McCarthy?

>>18335405
Of course Lawrence of Arabia influenced him, but I think a considerable part of the book was already written in 1962, when the movie came out. Not 100% sure though, but I think he started writing it 2 years before.

>>18345101
GRR Martin

>>18344958
This opinion is unpopular because it's objectively wrong. I'm entitled for authors to not just write, but for them to write what I want them to write.

>>18343379
You guys would miss all the attention your shitposting affords you here, and come crawling back. Once you realize you're in like company, then your conversation will come to drab ends, as there is not enough negativity to sustain your normal level of dopamine you get by bothering us. You'll leach on this thread and others, looking to recruit more anons to your thread. Using whatever antagonistic tactics you can.

Eventually, you'll receive enough reports for the mods to take serious action. They'll start banning you and your threads. Then you'll play the victim and cry that moderation on /lit/ is corrupt. Labeling them as your enemy. "Sanderson fags" or "weeb cucks" or some such. Feeling righteous, you'll spam the board in any way you can as retribution for your injustices. And then you'll become yet another autist making a dozen shitpost threads a day for causes that no one remembers or cares for.

>>18345101
Samuel Delany

>>18344654
Perhaps not award worthy, sure. But honestly better than a lot of stuff. It's a solid C+.

>>18344962
>because i actually read real literature
Cringe. Just imagine if this guy was even remotely self-aware. The shame would drive a man to suicide.

>>18345114
Bakker is the most popular author in this general by far, he received 1000 of upvotes in the poll that was posted here.

>>18345291
Nice headcanon.

>>18345114
Cringe

>>18345114
based and truthpilled

>>18345114
The God Emperor himself used his prescience. It's too late.

what are some fantasy books with relationships that make you giggle like a school girl and makes your stomach fill up with tiny little butterflies

>>18345114
You're not wrong about bacuckfags, but jannies being
>"weeb cucks"
are a serious problem too.

>>18345555
Jannies won't even see the shitposts unless they're reported.

>>18345517
Worth the Candle

>>18345604
seems interesting, will check it out

Any reccomendations for wacky fantasy and or comedy?
The wackier or nonsensical the better.

>>18345654
anything written by the japs, a bit meta though, the humor isn't derived from the literature itself, but from their attempt at it

>>18345654
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26892110-the-library-at-mount-char
Doesn't get wackier than this without turning to shit.

>>18345664
Woah buddy, you can't talk about Japanese things in this thread.

>>18345671
He's saying the Japanese can't write for shit and everything turns into unintentional comedy because it's so fucking bad.

>>18345678
Even the slightest mention of the country is off topic, sorry.

>>18345604
Not him, but anymore?

>>18345692
Cope.

>>18345667
Sounds good, will check it out. Thank you.

>>18345714
This is REALLY fucking weird. And I mean rappers with talking lions and Conan the Barbarian in a tutu kind of weird.

>>18345734
The lion roars add to the rapping and a man in a tutu shows his manlyness.Don't see the issue.

>>18345696
Unfortunately, nothing else really comes to mind to me. There are various fantasy series with romance I like, but nothing else that "make me giggle like a schoolgirl" (so to speak). I feel like most fantasy has really stiff and formal romance. That's just my experience though, I'm sure others will be better read than me.

>>18345795
what about sci-fi?
or even just general literature

today I will remind them

>>18345604
>worth the candle is an ongoing serial web novel by seasoned "rational fiction" writer Alexander Wales (of The Metropolitan Man fame) under his "cthulhuraejepsen" pen name
Do fanfic cucks really?

>>18345879
See, the way I see it, the prose style that a lot of modern fantasy authors use nowadays is very much the same–it's hard to explain, but its that very modern, informal, kind of meandering kind of style that you also see in YA fiction too. Rothfuss' style is simply an elevated, slightly more refined, slightly more flowery version of this YA-fiction style. So when I see mouthbreathers who boldly proclaim that Rothfuss has the best prose of any living modern fantasy writer, it makes me upset because this shit is genuinely the best fantasy has shat out in the past twenty-odd years. When Wolfe died in 2019, we lost our greatest writer

>>18345749
There's no issue. It's a highly rated and highly regarded novel. It's just one of the strangest SFF novels ever.

>>18345917
>When Wolfe died in 2019, we lost our greatest writer
We have George RR martin

>>18345879
Uhhh, is that a fucking raped tree I see? Kindlebros?

>>18345879

>>18345956
Why are you trying to start shit?

>>18345957
Cancer

>>18345961
>posts bait for the purpose of baiting
>WHY ARE YOU NOT RESPONDING TO MY BAIT IN THE WAY I INTENDED

>>18345968
Why are you trying to shit up the thread?

>>18345957
there is no way this is real

>>18345961
NO YOU CAN'T ARGUE STOP IT

>>18345973
Is it.

>>18345971
You are literally shitting up the thread with your presence here.

>>18345917
>When Wolfe died in 2019, we lost our greatest writer
Hopefully, someone will take up his mantle.

>>18345985
Literally will never happen with the current state of fantasy.

>>18345995
I know anon.

New thread
>>18346005

>>18345985
How would you fags even know? No one here ever discusses anything recent or anything even remotely obscure.

>>18346009
no because that would require actually reading shit and I aint got time for that shit

>>18346009
There's been some discussion on self-publish books and web serials.

>>18344958
>You're not entitled to
Neither is the author entitled to the fans ongoing support

how is this hard?

>>18338008
I read it in my 20s and was pretty blown away. It really sells the idea that the characters are teenagers, so all the life-or-death stuff is overlaid with the heightened emotion of teenagers. I cried, but that was fifteen years ago.

>>18340120
I read this recently and it's fantastic. The second book felt like tidying up after the threads brought up in the first, and lacks it's unique structure. Was worth reading but not interested in reading anymore after 2.