/lit/ - Literature

>>18334715
but you coom to plastic hookers on a screen every night, OP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist_humanism

Darkness At Noon was written by a former Stalinist agent.

>Marxists hyped as fuck by the October Revolution, thinking that the worldwide socialist utopia is actually going to happen
>Stalin fucks it all up in less than a generation
>kills Trotsky just to twist the knife

>>18334715
cia.gov

>>18334715
Stalin was a based ruralite GULAGing u*ban intellecutals.

>>18334755
And... you know... genociding rural farmers who had slightly more stuff than the poorest rural farmers

>>18334715
http://mileswmathis.com/stalin.pdf

>>18334772
Country known for famines has a famine under Stalin and suddenly it is genocide

>>18334790
it was a direct result of the mismanagement of kulak. Save your famine apologetics for mao-ist
china

>>18334790
There were multiple recorded instances of officials having a quota of executions to meet, so even if you're retarded enough to not think the elimination of the kulaks + subsequent famine counts as a genocide, there were other genocideS under his rule. Stalinism ain't it, pal. Wake up and smell the roses

>>18334798
>stalin can control the weather

>>18334715
reddit.com/r/neoliberal

>>18334806
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivization_in_the_Soviet_Union#Results

>>18334832
>Wikipedia
Lol

>>18334807
I lost

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>>18334724
>”Stalin Good”

>>18334835
http://www.holodomoreducation.org/news.php/news/4
how about this one retard

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn- The Gulag Archipelago

>>18334849
>”stalin.... bad”

>>18334872
looks like the tankie is sinking further into cope territory lol

>>18334872
Yes of course

All tankies, when confronted with the truth, even straight from the declassified Soviet archives or inquiries by the Chinese communist party’s probe they will simply say that it is western propaganda.

They’re that fucking stupid. Perfect lemming retard cannon fodder for anyone to take advantage of.

>>18334872
Yes he is
You are an antisocial wimp who has a scholarly disposition and you admire those who gave platitudes to your ideology who also have strength of character. You admire him because you're a faggot, anon.

>>18334914
Yeah idk why I even engage with such braindead fucking morons anymore

>>18334715
Basically anything written from the philosophy of anarchism or libertarian socialism (such as the works of Murray Bookchin and Abdullah Öcalan)

>>18334715
Imagine the cuck onions leftist that typed this post, I can imagine his squeaky nerd voice 'WhAt ArE tHe BeSt AnTi-StAlInIsT lEfT wOrKs?'
Shut the fuck up you cringe western anarcho something something. Stalin was a great leader and you either be a man and be a 100% Stalinist 100% Maoist or you become a cringe pale Anglo cuck like Vaush.

>>18335120
Here's your (you), retard.

>>18335120
Post your selfie

God I love it when leftists eat themselves. Truly brings home the point of utopia.

>>18334914
Saw one guy recently say with 100% sincerity that the great purge was justified and all the plots were real. I don't know what it is that makes people believe being the most braindead sycophant possible = intelligence.

There's such an abundance of documentation for Stalinist crimes that there really is no excuse for the ignorance.

>>18335120
This is one of the most embarrassing things I’ve ever seen posted on 4chan

>>18335336
MLs are autistic faggots. I just want less foreign wars, free healthcare, and gun control. I don’t care about dressing up in WW2 uniforms, worshipping black people, or teaching pre schoolers about anal sex.

>>18335443
you sure about that?

>>18335452
>and gun control.

>>18335452
One of these things is not like the other ones, one of these things just doesn't belong~

Oh, and also: you're a fucking idiot.

>>18334715
isn't it curious how many anti-Stalinist "left" writers are easily appropriated by the reactionary right? Orwell is a case in point. it's almost as if... as if those people were never left wing in the first place?!

>>18335458
Unironically yes, it’s gay as fuck. I live in Arkansas and I’m in mortal fear because some of the most retarded people on this planet that I know own assault rifles and handguns. But this isn’t the board for this discussion.

>>18335467
lel. sounds like a story.

>>18335466
>retarded as fuck Stalin orders his braindead NKVD trained proxies to kill Trotskyists
>after Munich decide to instead work with Hitler and abandon all the communists you propped up

Gee I wonder why Orwell would be pissed about all of his friends getting stabbed in the back and murdered by Stalinist retards

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>>18335452
>autistic faggots
>I want gun control
>I think people want to dress up in WW2 uniforms
>I think leftists worship black people
>I think anyone wants to teach preschoolers about anal sex
>I still identify with the left wing (????????)

The gift of language was wasted on our species.

>>18335466
wasnt orwell pretty jaded about the anarcho whatever's too? how dosconnected they were in a vapid way seperare from his criticism of the more communist regimes.

>>18334715
Why anti-Stalin, he was pretty based? Trotsky would have got ass raped by Hitler

>>18335478
anon, i might not agree with the orher guy, but what he said sounded completely logical. he was just talking in a bit of hyperbole. get your autism checked out guy.

>>18335485
Nah, it sounded like a bunch of hateful nonsense spewed by someone who hasn't gotten all the way through puberty yet. Go fuck yourself.

>>18335478
Why are you mad that people don’t want to be part of your internet brand?

>>18335058
>Basically anything written from the philosophy of anarchism or libertarian socialism (such as the works of Murray Bookchin and Abdullah Öcalan)

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>>18335467
ALERT! SAMEFAG DETECTED!

>>18335502
You are so insanely pissed off right now lol. I can feel the anger through the computer screen

>>18334715
Starship troopers

>>18335489
idk, not agreeing with some of the cultural stances, but agreeing with policies and economic stances is understandable.
>>18335502
how?

>>18335514
Huh? I dropped by to read the thread and made a guess based on how retardedly fellating you sounded

>>18335499
why do socialists have the worst lighting in their photos?

E-Communists get really mad at me when I ask them if the Democrats are the vanguard party. I think it’s because if they aren’t (they surely aren’t of course) then they’re forced to acknowledge that there is no substantive revolutionary movement in the US and that they’re miles away from ever realistically being near the levels of power. It’s all fake. It’s all LARP. It’s an excuse to buy 4.99 USSR flags off of Amazon to hang in your room and take photos wearing a Soviet kepi. It’s really pathetic. You think because there’s a left wing podcast you’re close to taking over the government? You couldn’t even get Bernie Sanders into power lol... The US is still fairly stable, leagues and bounds more stable than the provisional government of the Russian empire. Try going outside and helping poor people and worry about your faggy hammer and sickle obsession later. Also read the 18 Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte by one Karl Marx and feel like an absolute idiot for being a stupid LARPer that he criticised.

>>18335518
It seems possible, yeah, but not reasonable. 100% guarantee the kid posting this stupid shit is straight (or "straight") and white, having never had to worry about his privilege being threatened for one second, and wants to be able to sling slurs all day without consequence, and without having to worry about being drafted or going broke because America's health"care" system doesn't care one rat's ass for anyone.

>>18335543
Correct except I do actually care about people, even the darkies and trannies

>>18335553
You'll grow up one day, kid.

>>18335543
sounds a little assumptive imo. its not like its apodictic that a marxist materialist has to agree with a particular social stance of that sort. Not that you are necessarily wrong either, just that that information is a bit much to assume off hand lmao.

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>>18335482
Stop being so fucking retarded. If you like stalin you are genuinely either an autists or a CCP shill.

>>18335515
Starship troopers is about fascism and you know it.

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>>18334856
Holodomor happened and Ukr*inians deserved it.

>>18335561
Not that guy, but not wanting to live in a world were discrimination is legal isn't childish.

>>18335574
gif related
>>18335566
He literally already said I was correct, dumbass

>>18335584
You aren't mature because you use the word nigger

>>18335584
did he? sorry, posted before the thread updated.

>>18335569
Its >>18335482 here. I don't like Stalin and fuck commies but who else would have stopped Hitler? Genuinely answer that. Trotsky could never have stopped Hitler. Russia would be a german conoly today if Trotsky was incharge.

>>18335648
There’s no way to know this and not even a good reason to think this. Trotsky had more military experience leading soldiers than 5’4” yokel bank robber from the caucuses

>>18335648
Well sure, they did a good job in the war. That doesn't mean I have to support the mans politics or the authorotarian system created under him.

Nothing about Stalins political views won the war, it was the lemming army of starving russian men

>>18334715
Djilas conversations. Djilas new class. Fitzpatrick. Andrle.

>>18334715
Go to the source the source

>>18335539
basically you're correct. That's why I don't align myself with anyone that unironically roots for communism. I love how your typical leftist, when they hear someone say "I'm a capitalist" immediately screams "NOOOOO YOU'RE NOT A CAPITALIST!!! YOU'RE JUST A BRAINWASHED, EXPLOITED WORKER!!!" not realizing that if you use that standard, there are literally zero communists. Fucking cringy retards. Also theres just too much overlap of trannies and tranny sympathizers and people that call themselves communists. when and why did trannies become the archetypical communist. they're just all retarded. but what do you expect from people who get their political ideologies from twitter and twitch streamers. they're unarguably not serious in their convictions, as demonstrated by their immediate adoption of every new flavor of the month when their ideological heroes like contrapoints or that abomination oliver thorn says it's important to care about. I'd respect communists a lot more if they were anything like the communists of old.
Furthermore, the proper ideology to adopt is Stirnerism, as it isn't dependant on the esablishment of some pipe dream society. I can be a stirnerite right now, whereas commies have to wait for their state to come into existence first. Plus, even if they were to establish their state, I could easily continue being a stirnerite. Same for any other society. Stirnerism is perfectly compatible with any political system and is superior to any other ideology

>>18334735
>Jews hyped as fuck by the October Revolution, thinking that the worldwide banking utopia is actually going to happen
>Stalin fucks it all up in less than a generation
>kills Trotsky just to twist the knife
fixed it for you. unfrotunately it goes on...
>Stalin dies of totally natural causes
>banking utopia continues as planned

>>18336121
Holy christ you're stupid

>>18336416
in what way(s). please elaborate. otherwise I'm forced to assume that you're an anime pfp twitter tranny that has a hammer and sickle flag in its room

>>18336363
Smoothbrain with delusions of enlightenment detected

>>18336121
Stop learning your political theory from paradox games, please.

>>18336688
elaborate or I'm forced to assume you're a tranny

>>18334715
I think Bordiga wrote something like that

>https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1952/stalin.htm

Didn't read it though.

>>18335412
>Saw one guy recently say with 100% sincerity that the great purge was justified and all the plots were real.
All real? Probably not. It seems Churchill was at least somewhat aware of them.
Justified? Well, USSR won the war.

>“The Führer explained one more time the Tukhachevsky case and stated that we erred completely at the time when we thought that Stalin had ruined the Red Army. The opposite is true: Stalin got rid of all the opposition circles within the army and thereby succeeded in making sure that there would no longer be any defeatist currents within that army…

>With respect to us, Stalin also has the advantage of not having any social opposition, since Bolshevism has eliminated it through the purges of the last twenty-five years…Bolshevism has eliminated this danger in time and can henceforth focus all of its strength on its enemy.”

– Joseph Göbbels, Tagebücher aus den Jahren 1942–1943, (Zurich, 1948), p. 322. Quoted in Hans-Adolf Jacobsen, La seconde guerre mondiale: caractères fondamentaux de la politique et de la stratégie, vol. 1, pp. 213–214.

>>18335477
It didn't go like this, you know. Orwell was Antistalinist in Spain already

Also, you have a very poor understanding of Munich and MVR pact

>>18335677
>Nothing about Stalins political views won the war

>On 15 October, Stalin ordered the evacuation of the Communist Party, the General Staff and various civil government offices from Moscow to Kuibyshev (now Samara), leaving only a limited number of officials behind. The evacuation caused panic among Muscovites. On 16–17 October, much of the civilian population tried to flee, mobbing the available trains and jamming the roads from the city. Despite all this, Stalin publicly remained in the Soviet capital, somewhat calming the fear and pandemonium.

>To stiffen the resolve of the Red Army and boost civilian morale, Stalin ordered the traditional military parade on 7 November (Revolution Day) to be staged in Red Square. Soviet troops paraded past the Kremlin and then marched directly to the front. The parade carried a great symbolic significance by demonstrating the continued Soviet resolve, and was frequently invoked as such in the years to come

Stalin speech here
>https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1941/11/07.htm

It's not just about his political stances. It's about showing your resolve as leader. Stalin didn't shoot his head in a bunker. He stayed in fucking Moskva, organized the fucking Military Parade to celebrate the October Revolution, as always. This is not just bragging, this can really infuse new moral to the troops and population. The Wehrmacht was at like 30 km of Moscow. German tanks had a speed of 16-40km/h depending if on road or off road. They were fucking near. And fucking Stalin said "Fuck it, they're not going to ruin our remembrance of the Glorious Bolshevik Revolution".

>>18335539
You're correct. The Left is dead. There's no leftist political movement in the world anymore. In America, the closest we had to a "Vanguard Party" were the protesters at the January Capitol protests this year.
"Leftism", just like other political ideologies in our modern age, has been commodified into a consumerist identity that one can purchase through Amazon.

>>18334715
Fag