/lit/ - Literature

>>18327399
First: throw out all the damned blowjacks

>>18327399
Do the Hesse trifecta and read Demian, Siddhartha, and Steppenwolf in that order.

>>18327439
It is good, bro?

Literally, unironically, my diary from two years ago. It gets better.

>>18327470
Desu?

sorry. I relate in a few ways although I might be okay, hope you are too. I don't really have books that fit that description but I would read light and comfy stuff like tom sawyer or even a magazine like the new yorker cheers bruddah mahn

>>18327399

>>18327493
That's honto desu ka, gaijin nigger

>>18327540
>Mainlander

Into the trans it goes

https://www.amazon.com/Demise-Guys-Boys-Struggling-About-ebook/dp/B00850HTHO

>>18328750
It's about what, bro

>>18327399
Unironically Jordan Peterson's YouTube lectures. I don't know about his book though, but his self help is golden.

I went back to school at 26 anon, and got my first engineering gig at 30. Being a mature learner gave me the upper hand at networking and so I got a job fairly quickly. It was a shit climb up hill though, I did a stint in KFC and everything but doing it at 27 is better than 30 or 40.

I believe in you, it's going to be shit, but you're self aware and that means something. You just need to action it.

>>18328863
To add to this, I read Ernst Junger's storm of steel multiple times. There's definitely something grounding about reaching accounts of trench warfare.

Brothers Karamazov made me legitimately cry at age 27. Dostoevsky got me where it hurts the most

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>>18328750
Zimbardo is so fuckin based. My mother was taught by him after his prison experiment

Henry IV pt. I by Billy Shakespeare

>>18327399
unironically read some normie self help books
10X Rule
Rich Habits
the 7 habits one

literally anything about success

>>18327399
Martin Eden

>>18328863
Good for you anon. Glad to hear you made it.

>>18327399
>me at 29

I hate living. I'm trying, but still.

>>18329251
His prison experiment was shit. No control group, no compositions to others, no way to isolate variables, selection bias in the participants, etc. It's one big larpy anecdote.

Compared to someone like Milgram, Zimbardo is a joke and a hack. The only thing he had going for himself is a talent for self promotion.

>>18329692
>compositions
comparisons*

The Essays of Ralph Waldo Emerson. More specifically, his essays on Nature, Self-Reliance, and Experience. Genuinely changed my life.

“This one fact the world hates; that the soul becomes; for that forever degrades the past; turns all riches to poverty, all reputation to a shame, confounds the saint to the rogue, shoves Jesus and Judas equally aside.”

>>18328863
Thanks, bro, gonna try my luck.

>>18329938
Gonna try to read this nigga, thank bro

>>18327399
Tony Robbins: Unlimited Power
His first book is all about how he changed his life from being a broke, fat fuck, and real steps to change yours.
all his other stuff sucks but this was gold for me.

>>18330185
Pretty based that Sheev wrote a self-help book.

>>18329972
Happy to share his work. Wish you the best man

I'm already 21 and I've never had a job and I'm scared of having one. I dread being commanded and having to force myself to do stuff. I don't dread the work itself, but I am so scared of routine and having to be punctual every single day.

>>18327399
guys, im in serious need of some help here. after 26 years of self sabotage and waste, im at a crossroads. for as long as i can remember, i have squandered all potential for a good or happy life. i have delayed and put off my education, despite having a spot in the best university in my country. i have let my body decay from junk food and other poisons. i have slowly built up addictions that will one day break me. i have broken bonds with family and friends. and i have done all of this with an underlying desire to eventually an hero.

by all accounts, i should already be too far gone. but by some strange twist of fate, God has seen fit to send a girl to me, and im unsure of what to do now. she is 21, religious and proper, kind and gentle, and for some strange reason, she thinks im great. she wants to live with me, marry, and have children. all my life, i have been heading down a road in stark contrast to what she is now offering. and i dont know if i have what it takes to join her on this path. every time i entertain the thought, i can feel self loathing settle down on me like a physical weight. i am fearful and weak.

please recommend me some /lit/ that can help a broken, self hating moron to turn things around and choose life

Get out of the internet/games/tv/screens. You'll be bored and end up doing something with your life.

>itt 20 year old children complain about how cruel and beyond help their lives are
hilarious
protip: asking for recs or sharing your blog here is recreational
it's just another prevarication to avoid doing all of the things you need to do which are difficult and frightening and require confronting new things while 4chan is the pale light of familiar mediocrity you are warming yourself by

I suggest joining the military and having the real world beaten into you.

>>18327399
Diary of a Drug Fiend by Aleister Crowley is just this kind of story.

>>18330766
everyone is weak so just don't overthink and be weak together with her

>>18330816
Dude, I know that much of my shitty situation comes from my utter stupidity and lack of forsight, yet, I want to fucking change.

>>18330859
>I want to fucking change
You won't, your problem is entirely thinking over acting, your first and only recourse is overthinking. Your type cannot change by wanting or thinking, only by acting.

>>18330876
I get it your point, truth right now I'm lost on what path should I choose, that why I'm "overthinking"

Op, try the constructive living handbook by reinolds

>>18330885
There's no path; the path is made by walking. At a minimum, get a job, any job, just so you're not dependent on your parents.

>>18331242
Not him but I'm not dependent on my parents, I get neetbux from the state, but I lack a direction in life, I want to find something I can wholeheartedly devote myself to but nothing seems interesting enough.

>>18330766
god sent her to you for a reason anon, don't let her go

>>18331242
I'm looking for a job, bro, that's a no-brainer, I got a degree on finance, but due to sheer stupidity and the pandemic a got a nothing to show for, now a job in finance is hard to find, I'm aplying for other things as well.

OP here, there any book out there, that basically just show "the way" to unfuck your life?

>>18331272
There's no answer you can find by cogitating, you just start throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.

Or you switch frames so that "direction in life" seems like nonsense, which likely requires engaging with art, philosophy, and spirituality. Maybe. I think Musashi said every path leads to the top of the mountain.

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>>18327399
This is pretty much me too, expect I'm 28 and was working for the last nine years as bookkeeper before the supermarket where worked closed in June. My life is pretty much ruined. I'm gonna try and pick up a quick trade in my 30s to support my family.

>>18328863
Goodspeed anon. JP might be a drug addict hack but at least some of the stuff he said actually works on the average non too-schizo anon.

>>18327399
Here fren.

>>18327399
test to see if tranny mods banned me again

>>18327459
Demian is shit. Siddhartha is good. Steppenwolf is cringe but okay

>>18330766
When you mentioned that girl you reminded me of my current situation. I've been together for a bit over two months with this girl I met through our same social circle. She makes me weep from happiness and makes me believe in miracles, because I have no idea how what I have done to deserve such a woman. I still sometimes feel so surreal. But my point is that you should remember that it is ok to be happy, that you deserve good things happening to you and that someone really can truly love you, unconditionally.

>>18330766
Read the canon. I’m not kidding. Starting with the Greeks, reading Shakespeare and Cervantes, and everything else that comes with it. It’s a life-changing experience.

>>18330766
God didn't send her to you, psychiatrists did. It's a radical treatment for otherwise hopeless young men. You're being Truman Showed.

>>18332055
>weeping with joy over some chick you've been with for only two months
You barely even know her, what the fuck man

>>18332042
Siddhartha felt spiritually very shallow to me. Steppenwolf is much more powerful. Still haven't read Demian.

>>18332114
Young love. Yeah, makes no sense but he will have to learn that the hard way.

>>18332198
>Young love
>Young
I wouldn't be so sure

>>18332022
Many thanks, bro!

>>18327399
What are your goals, op?

>>18332237
Get some money, be stable and acquire some skills then start to plan to move to the countryside and live a peaceful life reading books on everything and playing games.

>>18329938
Brainlet here. What does that quote even mean

>>18330559
So was I, but you will find out soon enough, unless you get an inheritance, that the alternative is worse.

>>18327399
>unemployed
>failure
Being unemployed is a victory.

t. employed

>>18327399
Iron John: A Book About Men by Robert Bly
>The inner boy in a messed-up family may keep on being shamed, invaded, disappointed, and paralyzed for years and years. "I am a victim," he says, over and over; and he is. But that very identification with victimhood keeps the soul house open and available for still more invasions. Most American men today do not have enough awakened or living warriors inside to defend their soul houses. And most people, men or women, do not know what genuine outward or inward warriors would look like, or feel like.

>>18332408
Not when you life depends on other's money, bro, If I could be free from being a waige slave but by my somehow magic money, then, thats ok to me, but reality is not like that, so I need to work.

>>18332416
And how do I "awekin" my inner warrior, brother?

>>18327399
Same here, bro. I have social anxiety over stomach noises. I haven't been to the university in 6 years.

At the end of the day, books can't help you. You may end up reading books as part of helping yourself, but that will all be effect rather than cause.

>>18327399
Crime and Punishment.
Unironically

>>18332022
>Marcovaldo
Hmmm, why?

>>18332114
>You barely even know her, what the fuck man
If he isn't fully in love now, when will he?

>>18330766

hey mate, this is a long shot, but you don't happen to be from Germany, do you?

>>18332724
Bro, I know that, I just want some mood lifting books, tales of man that gone through hell and got back better, I know is a copeish thing, but still, time to time we need a little cope.

>>18330766
care to elaborate on how this situation arose
I'm 23, graduated top of my class, did tons of clubs, constantly was reaching out to people, and somehow managed to graduate without ever having hugged/kissed a girl. also still don't have any friends lol. ever since beginning of high school I've thought that if I 'built' myself into an accomplished and outgoing person, then friends/a relationship would naturally follow, but at this point i doubt it will happen

>>18330766
God doesn't exist. You can tell her that. She doesn't sound very bright.

>>18332436
Stand in front of a mirror and punch yourself in the balls

>>18327470
Wait till the 3 year mark

>>18327399
join the unreal bros
https://discord.gg/jc62mzQc

>>18328863
Inspiring. Thanks

>>18327399
Niave Super by Erlend Loe. Trust me

>>18327399
Lolita, the Bible

>>18331242
Shut the fuck up retard, OP absolutely needs to have a plan

>>18330766
come to /fit/ we'll help you

>>18327399

You're not a failure if you live with your parents, economy is pretty fucked and paying rent monthly is a waste of money.

But you should definitely get employed.

>>18330766

New Testament.

>>18333086
What about the people you reached out to? Did they like you and reapproach you as well? What did you do with those people?

>>18329972
ngmi

>>18333086
hello me from 3 years ago
t. pretty much 26 year old you

>>18330766
Woman has a role in man's redemption

>>18332401
He's saying our identities are in continual evolution and therefore our predictions about what others will amount to are often wrong. Many of today's losers will be tomorrow's winners and vice versa.

>>18333086
You need to accept you’re ugly and have no charisma. Literally go lift and speak as little as possible. Women can detect spergs really well.

>>18330766
you're a whiny af cunt and yet you've got a chick
kys pls

>>18330559
>no job experience at 21
Get on that. Low-tier jobs really fucking suck. You don't want to be in the McDonalds phase of your life into your mid-late twenties.

>>18336438
what's life like for you now?

>>18336221
there's too many to list, but a few who come to mind are other members of the film club e-board. I organized a lunch with a couple of them, and it went well, but nothing more ever came of it. I was also a senior member of the philosophy club, and I'd ask people to lunch, and it was always pleasant, but there was never any follow up. I'd say stuff like "let me know if you're doing anything, would love to join" (since I was never doing anything), but I figure there's only so much one can do to 'enter' a friendship.

The closest I got to joining a "friend group" were a few nerds from the anime club. I went with them to a convention in Boston and we all just sperged out over weeb shit for a couple hours. It was one of the happiest days of my life, since I felt like I was finally part of a group. But I never truly figured out how to edge my way into that group. It was like everyone else had already found their friends, and I perpetually remained an outsider. I'd ask some of the guys in the club if they wanted to get lunch, and we would, but then we'd never talk again.

Girls were a different story - there were actually three different girls who asked me out to lunch at different points in college, and I became friends with each of them individually. For each one, the story kinda went like: we'd hang out for a month or two, or go see movies together, and then I'd swallow my pride and just straight up ask them if they wanted to go out. I never asked in like a super spergy way or whatever, I just tried to say it naturally and avoid any embarrassing "confessions", but I was rejected on all three occasions. One of the girls cut me off completely after I asked her, another graduated (haven't talked with her since), and another kinda just pushed me away after a month.

College fucking sucked just because it was so lonely. I talked with people, but never formed any long term or consistent relationships. Sorry for the blog, but there's the story

>>18338298
yeah I agree, which is why I was always confused when girls kept asking me out to lunch and movies and stuff. It gave me hope, but false hope in the end.

The Holy Bible is the only book anyone of any age or "feel" needs.

>>18340011
Wrong board

Gave me hope, direction, and pulled me out of poverty all in one go. You simply need an opportunity, anon.

>>18339968
Damn I just graduated and beat myself hard about not being more social and outgoing. I hate my current "friend group", I feel no connection to them at all I'm surprised they invite me to hang out. I feel ashamed for accepting their invitations but the loneliness is too much to handle.

>>18337065
No she does not, Christcuck. Men save women. There is no reciprocity there.

Imagine ever relying on a woman to save you. Especially a modern one. That's a recipe for a doomed life.

>>18327399
ug krishnamurti emil cioran

>>18340205
nah

>>18327399
>unemployed
based. employment is slavery and you have nothing but opportunity
>no money
shhh. The truth anon? People have gone their entire lives without working. Not aristocrats or those born into lives of privilege. Humble, mild mannered anons like you have figured out ways to cheat the system a thousand ways before. If you really do not think you're suited towards a life of wage slavery start looking elsewhere for income.

I, in my earlier years, made quite a bit of money buying and reselling books that I found at 25cent book sales in the hundred mile radius I live in. See, I have an intolerably high IQ, come from almost nothing, but have decided, quite early on too, that I would never work in a situation I didn't want to be in. Simple as.


As for novels about someone slapping their shit together?

When I was in a dark hole of depression and self loathing I picked up a copy of Herman Hesse's Siddhartha and wept. Unashamed to admit it. Life-changing though? Not really, for that you'd need to read Stirner.