/lit/ - Literature

>>18310466
This is why I refuse to proof read.

The republic by Plato. Worst book ever, unironically.

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>>18310510
Explain yourself.

The writing is really bad, the characters are one dimensional and don't even try to defend their arguments. I get that Plato was important for founding western philosophy, but I view him the same way as Sigmund Freud.

>>18310635
but the republic is so cool though??

>>18310635
Well yeah compared to something written more recently. But you have to remember this was over 2000 years ago, his texts are more conceptual rather than prose. You could say "yeah well I can just read somebody more modern with better ideas", not really because his foundations havent really been refuted only built upon. (unlike Aristotle's Biology texts.)

Have you guys read through Atlas Shrugged? It feels like the same thing. Ayn Rand was a terrible writer, and I wouldn't want anyone to read her work, but she was influential on American politics. Even so, she shouldn't be read today

>>18310737
>Comparing libertarians to the foundation of politics, christianity and theoretical physics.

>>18310737
an extremely slight influence on american politics isn't worth reading...
and like the other anon said, the other examples in this thread are the literal foundations of western thought

>Foundation of politics

It was certainly not the first book on politics, there were hundreds of presocratics that we know of who wrote about politics.
>Christianity

Christ was not mentioned once, and the Bible had not been written at that time.
>Theoretical Physics

What does this even mean? I don't see how anything Plato said regarding these is better than Thales, or anyone else.
>libertarians

Plato sure liked young boys.

Dune is the only book I have ever read that made me do that.
Having to flip back to a glossary to look up the meaning of his stupid neologism for everyday items like a knife was painful.

@18311022
Poor bait, formatted just as well.
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>Poor bait, formatted just as well
What a great argument, I hadn't thought of that! You've truly changed my mind.

>>18310635
>characters are one dimensional

Did you try to read a foundational text of philosophy like a genre fiction novel you bum?

>>18310466
Literally anything from the field of analytic philosophy.

>>18310510
imagine getting filtered by Plato

>>18310466
Thus Spoke Zarathustra, by the point I was reading that book I had already finished other four books of Nietzsche and was completely fed up with him

>>18311034
getting filtered by made up words. why do people its extremely easy to grasp if you practice any diligence while reading the book

>>18311610
I was gonna read TSZ as my first neetzsche book, damn.

>>18310466
Lathe of Heaven

>>18311848
Read twilight of the idols first, then you decide what you're gonna do

>>18310466
The Greeks. They were full of shit.

>>18310466
I tried to read True Hallucinations by Terence McKenna. I still think there's something to the psychedelic experience, but the lobotomized neo-hippies that think any of his ideas or theories are anything other than drug-induced delusion and pseudointellectual bullshit most certainly don't have anything meaningful to say about it.

Same goes for his crackhead brother, after reading the shit he journaled about in that book.

>>18311767
saved

>>18310466
A People's History of the United States. I was assigned this book when I was in AP US History in high school, and even as a high schooler, I nearly immediately dismissed this book as shallow propaganda. Years later, I naturally had to check the "early life" section on Zinn's Wikipedia page. I honestly shouldn't have wasted my time checking - I knew he was one of God's chosen people from the start

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>>18310705
> most of the “educated” people on Earth have no idea that principles of Aristotle's “incorrect” biological classification are very much similar to modern “correct” biological classification.