/lit/ - Literature

The full quote helps a little
>When we read these books, what purpose does it serve in this day and time? What purpose does it serve?

>>18301797
What did Mike read in Prison?

>>18301811
That Tolstoy crap

>>18301823
And all those deep books. Anon clearly cannot read.

It’s too human

This nigga be having casual sex without poppin out kids tho ain't he nigga be lyiiiikm dawwwwg

Are you really going to take advice from a nigger?

>>18301797
I had an illness that saw me get sicker and sicker for 5 or 6 years and saw everyone around me grow to resent me for being sick. The Death of Ivan Ilyich was a horrifying affirmation of my feelings. People should not read Tolstoy. He's a fucking gutpunch.

>>18301797
https://youtu.be/7TJEgxlqvQU

>>18301797
>>18301811
He read that Tolthtoy and all that thit

>>18301797
Mike is fucking /lit/

>>18301843
Rude anon
Color doesn't matter

>>18301797
And yet you can tell Mike is probably way better for reading those books, even if he doesn't realize it consciously. You don't have to agree with and obediently apply everything you read, even his reaction to/against them is a subtle change in his being that is valuable. What's most important is that now he thinks and has an opinion on Tolstoy.

>>18301797
It's nice that he tried to improve himself through exposure to culture, but regardless I won't be taking advice on my habits from a convicted rapist. If his character was better, like mine, he wouldn't be a felon, as I am not. Simple as.

>>18301943
>I won't be taking advice on my habits from a convicted rapist

>>18301943
You consider yourself quite highly?

>>18301943
>If his character was better, like mine, he wouldn't be a felon, as I am not
but can you do this?

>>18301898
>race is just color
heh

>>18301964
Yes.
>>18302004
Look at professional accomplishments in isolation and Tyson is an impressive person, moreso than I am. But look at character and I'm clearly far better, since I'm not a convicted rapist.
>>18302062
No.

>>18301943
Mike Tyson is more complex than you’d think

>>18302107
I know and respect more about him than you might think. I don't respect him as a convicted rapist.

>>18301811
Probably Ana Cuckerina.

>>18302117
Fair, I apologize.

>>18302117
Why are you so hung up on him being a convicted rapist? Do you think you're better because your crimes were never discovered?

>>18302117
If he actually did rape her, his comment after conviction ("I really wish I did now. But now I really do want to rape her.") makes ZERO sense.

>>18301803
That makes it even stupider (if real).

>>18301898
>Color doesn't matter

But race does.

>>18302133
It's just the main thing that keeps me from completely loving him for his tendency to intimidate journalists and interviewers with threats of violence.

>>18301797
>once again the horseshoe is proven to be right
tolstoy will give you existential crises
so your general well being would be better off without reading "deep books"
the only geniuses who will get balls deep into existential studies are madmen, the rest of them realize that they'll get nothing in return from that
only midwits will stay into those swamps and think it's even remotely constructive

Don King was such a bad influence on Tyson, and a scumbag in general

>>18302157
Boxing and its many organizations, promoters, and various other shady parties is one of the most notoriously corrupt entities in human history. And women are lying cunts. It's very possible Tyson was set up. But it's also possible he's a rapist. Who really knows

I can't believe it's 2021 and still people think Tyson raped Washington. Legal scholars agree that the Tyson trial was a farce.

>>18302091
>since I'm not a convicted rapist.
You know how many Blacks are wrongly convicted every year? You're acting righteous but completely neglect the unfairness of the justice system.

>>18302218
I don't know. How many is it?

>>18301894
Mike Tyson Mysteries is the most /lit/ program on television

>>18302207
>believes random internet """expert""" who claims to know the IQs of famous people

>>18301933
>>18301933
Very true anon, unironically wise insight. Have you read Gabriel Marcel?

>>18301797
only bitch niggas read since you can use your fists to BTFO

>>18301811
he was so effected by the writings of mao zedong that he had mao tattooed onto his body

>>18301894
is this real?

Tyson is much smarter than what people give him credit for

>>18302324
actually, the way it works is that you can always tell the IQ of somebody if theirs is less than or equal to your own. like if you have an IQ of 115, you would more or less instantly know if you were talking to someone with an IQ of 60, 90, 100, or 115, but if it was 116 or higher then all you'd know is that you dont know what their IQ is, which means it must be greater. i have an IQ of 125, and i can definitely tell that the IQs in that picture less than my own are correct

>>18302091
>>18302117
>convicted
you let the state judge character for you? or is the sin in getting caught?

>>18302412
I have an IQ of 126 and I can tell your IQ is only 105

>>18301943
Based.
This thread only exists because of infantilized 'men' impressed by celebrities and the ironic potential of either a nigger or someone who takes hits to the head for a living having an interest in books. It's pure peacock contrarianism.

>>18302412
I think people often misperceive more intelligent people as being dumber than themselves, which throws this notion into question.

>>18302447
Well, I have an IQ of 200 and I can calculate that your's is only of MATH ERROR.

>>18301943
Which writers were also rapists? I only know of Sade

>>18302412
I can easily tell your IQ can't be higher than room temperature.

>>18302505
Celsius or Fahrenheit.

>>18302503
Sartre

>>18302503
Hemingway (raped his niece while she was 17), Camus (raped the corpse of his ex), Tupac (raped allegations from a 17 year old girl), Dumas (nigger, so most likely raped someone) and the writer of "Call of the Crocodrile" (rapist face, probably a pedo).

>>18302508
Irrelevant

>>18302203
>>18302203
>main thing that keeps me from completely loving him for his tendency to intimidate journalists and interviewers with threats of violence.
I don't get it, is it supposed to be a negative trait?

>>18301797
Tolstoy is deeply affecting. Some books fuck with your soul, not always in a beneficial way.

we wuz reading tolstoy n shieeeet dat deep shit n shieeeet

>>18302553
shit to deep mah nigga, dat shit bad 4 u. can give a nigguh brain damage

>>18302549
Intimidation of journalists and interviewers is very admirable, but personally, I stand against rape.

>>18302568
nah nigga you aint deep n sheit hop off my nuts lil nigga

>>18302580
nigga am deeper than yo bitch ass.

>>18302203
Kek, based. Journalists should live in fear

>>18301797
Mike Tyson is a legitimate maniac. I forget who, but there was some actor that met thousands of famous people, and he said Mike Tyson is the single most psychotic and terrifying motherfucker out of all of them.

>>18302324
>Ben Shapiro
>140
ask me how I know this is bullshit

>>18302207
Mike Tyson is more intelligent than you

If you can't monetize it it's useless

>>18302324
>Nikola Tesla 160-310
>310
Is this a joke? Do they realize how extreme a 310 would be

>>18302207
>70 IQ, borderline retarded
Consider the actual borderline retarded gangbangers and hoodrats you’ve seen whether on TV or in person, and watch this and tell me if you think it’s the same quality of person.
https://youtu.be/pgcHBcQRlpw

>>18302324
>Snoop Dogg
never heard of him

>bernie
probably 130

>kanye west
only seen him referenced in memes, idk

>tesla
165 pobably

>Kubrick
140 I guess?

>bon shopiro
120 but much higher verbal

>newton
desu might be like 190+

>jobs
130 non-verbal but must have been 170 verbal

>emma
I coom

>Ronal Regan
literally who

>Nolan Goul
literally who

>Warren Buffer
160

>>18302730
shapiro went to harvard law, where 173 is the median LSAT. assuming he scored 170+, we can ascertain that his IQ is at least 130.

>>18302324
>Stanley Kubrick has higher IQ than Newton
Who made this shit list?

>>18302889
>>Ronal Regan
>literally who
hi zoomer

>>18302898
He's emotionally and intellectually a toddler, and that's not hyperbole.

>>18302954
Sorry, I do not care for politics of a country ruled by BLM trannies and rednecks.

>>18301803
keyed

>>18302180
midwit filtered by a simple question lol

>>18302283
The episode with cormac McCarthy and Greg poppovitch made me pick blood meridian back up which is what started my /lit/ journey

>>18301943
Okay but how many heavyweight championships do you have?

>>18303338
Yeah, you really can't compare me to anyone in "obese" categories like that, it's true. My weight is extremely normal and my body composition is fit. That's how I'm able to operate as a Ranger.

>>18302412
spoken like a true midwit. intelligent people tend to doubt their doubt their own intelligence more and more often than not perceive other people to be smarter.

How much do they let you read in prison? Do they let you write a prison book/memoir like Mein Kampf anymore?

>>18301943
Rape is good

>>18303841
Spread those cheeks.

>>18303007
you are confusing his public persona with what he actually is. the character he plays is an artifice, a ploy to make money. don't conflate that with his real self.

>>18301797
Mike Tyson got filtered

>>18301854
Being able to understand a piece of a literature that deeply is a blessing. Still sucks for you though, anon, im sorry.

>>18303820

It all depends on what sort of crime you did, how strong you are, and how well-behaved (or not) you are. No one is in a hurry to give the child molester-who-hasn't-been-shanked-yet-but-will-be-soon any reading material. A hacker who hasn't shanked anybody, sucks whatever dick he has to to stay alive, and is generally well-behaved might get some books. The murderer who popped one rival gang member years ago (who no one who matters cares is gone) and doesn't cause problems is likely to get a book or two.

I do find it a bit surprising that Kaczynski is allowed to carry on his literary activities to the extent that he does, that's clearly what's keeping him going. First amendment is a thing, I suppose.

>>18304746
#freekaczynski

>>18302940
God, presumably.

>>18302801
Wisdom =/= intelligence

>>18301943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLQ44DeH2X0

>>18305282
Patrice makes a strong case here. I'm beginning to wonder if Tyson's character may be better than I've been told to imagine.

>>18301854
People hate Tolstoy because he tells the uncomfortable truths in the typical Russian manner: Well written analysis of society yet not romanticized, blunt to an almost agonizing extent.

>>18305299
maybe because he liked some guys/ideas you should not like in USA.

>>18303984
No u

>>18302381
BASED

>>18305333
>Moo Tselung
what the fuck

>>18305263
You’re right, wisdom is worth much more.

>>18301797
>>18301803
Did your last thread not get the response you wanted?

>>18301894
He's not even the most /lit/ heavyweight champion.

>>18305299
>I'm beginning to wonder if Tyson's character may be better than I've been told to imagine.
it wasn't, because one of the reasons teddy atlas had a falling out with tyson was because tyson was being very sexually aggressive towards teddy's underage niece or some shit. so he definitely had a reputation for that kind of behavior. HOWEVER, that being said, the rape case was a definite false accusation.

mike tyson actually seems smart when hes quoted because then you dont have to listen to his voice, am I retarded?

>>18302508
Kelvin

>>18301811
jihad murad

>>18301803
big if true

>>18301874
>Now I admire Tyson, I do.

>>18301811
Hegel.

>>18302283
It unironically is.

>>18302203
Reminds me of that Sam Hyde quote

>In 2017, Hyde reportedly pledged $5,000 towards the legal defense fund of Andrew Anglin, the founder and editor of neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer.[3] The Southern Poverty Law Center sued Anglin for allegedly organizing a "troll storm" against a Jewish woman in Montana. When Matt Pearce of the Los Angeles Times questioned Hyde about the donation, Hyde asked Pearce if he was Jewish and went on to say that $5,000 was "nothing" to him. Hyde also stated: "Don't worry so much about money. Worry about if people start deciding to kill reporters. That's a quote. For the reason why, you can say I want reporters to know I make more money than them, especially Matt Pearce."[3]

>>18302769
Kek

>>18302720
You can tell even from a video the guy is just extremely dangerous, always ready to snap. Must kind of suck being that aggressive in modern society, just constantly getting in conflicts you can't act on or you'll be jailed.

>A literal retarded nigger says some retarded nonsense that's not even about literature
>/lit/ dedicates a 100+ reply thread to it
Why??

>>18302381
>it's fucking real

>>18301943
>>18302091
>Giving a shit about muh character boogeyman
>Discarding another person's worldview and opinions because of muh moralfaggotry

>>18307509
>Greentexting a defense of some rapist
Yeah, I really don't care

>>18301797
>>18301803
>Don't read it because I don't know what it's used for

Someone should have asked him what purpose does boxing serve?

>>18302940
some lefty faggot who actually like thinks Bernie's IQ has triple digits lmao

>>18306814
Just don't abuse any pigeons around him and you'll be fine

>>18307979
It's a fact that every Jew on Earth has over 130 IQ, a result of favoring IQ based genes for 4000 years. I challenge you to find one that does not, Bernie is a master-tier manipulator, only reason why $Hillary keeps using him to sheepdog the zoomers.

If you believe that he believes anything he talks about you're the midwit.

>>18301823

>>18302898
He's a jew, he could've gotten in while being a vegetable

>>18302184
Racism is the biggest sign of poor education and lack of world experience.

>>18301823
based

>>18305787
whomst?

>>18309426
>Racism is the biggest sign of poor education and lack of world experience.
Xenophobia is a trait that helped your ancestors survive in a ruthless world. You wouldn't exist today if your ancestors hadn't been weary of outsiders. Thinking that everyone who is racist is intentionally evil or low-IQ is pretty arrogant. Many of these people are unaware that they are just following biological programming. There is no framework for public discussion about this issue other than ardent hatred and autistic screeching against racists which just makes them retreat into more insular communities rather than

Even if we were all the same race and culture, we would find things to hate about each other. Look at the Minimal Group Paradigm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimal_group_paradigm

t. anti-racist realist

>>18309592
Gene Tunney. He won the title from Jack Dempsey, became personal friends with GB Shaw, and gave a lecture on Shakespeare at Yale.

>>18309426
>>18309599
Plus the races are different. So you can be racist for that reason too. Doesn't mean you hate other races. You don't hate your dog because it doesn't appreciate Chaucer, or a gorilla because it can't do calculus, or a white boy because he can't dance. People love their dogs, but also realize it would be foolish to expect those things.

You might also be racist by definitions 2 and 3, you are a member of a group in which some members have power over POCs, or you annoyed a POC, respectively (John McWhorter). But those definitions are dumb. Don't use those.

>>18302381
holy fuck its true

>>18306820
>an illiterate mutt doesnt understand words

>>18302898
>shapiro went to harvard law, where 173 is the median LSAT.
maybe he's one of those backdoor kids that "bought" their way to harvard, if you know what I mean.

>>18307625
i know thats not what youre implying but that sounded like tolstoy should be read for fun lmao

>>18301874
That was a great watch

>>18306820
Mike is better read than you

>>18303667
Manlet

>>18302940
Jews.

>>18302533
>Camus (raped the corpse of his ex
what

>>18304731
>>18301854
I read it as someone who felt sorry for himself mostly. I suppose both things are true.

>>18304746
Another anon said he read Mao in prison. Not sure why they allowed it, I've heard DnD gets banned sometimes

>>18303007
Absolutely correct. There is ZERO difference between him and my 3 yr old. Just the other day my little tyke told me my refusal to give him ice cream for breakfast was me undermining judeo-christian values of the western society and by forcing him to clean his room I was being a leftist snowflake who demanded the destruction of the art (his legos scattered across the floor) of the giants whose shoulders I stood on.

>>18312275
That's right. Shapiro is a big fucking baby and your toddler is stupid too.

>>18301797

Even Werner Herzog respects Mike Tyson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TJEgxlqvQU

>>18301823
Why am I laughing so much for this post

>>18301797
Why do Black people always state things in such a crude manner?

>>18301894
>muh fun
yep, typical american right there.

>>18301823
lol :3

>>18301882
God damn.

This post is actually funnier than the one before it :3

>>18301943
He got set up.

>>18301797
he reds all that ish so tush the hell up ibsh

Mike Tyson is a really misunderstood guy. Obviously he has the heart of a criminal and he's made some terrible life decisions (especially in the 90s) but his speech impediment gave everyone the impression that he was just an eccentric novelty or a punched out retard. If you watch actually listen to some of his interviews and utterances, even the hysterical ones, you'll realize that he's a reasonably well-read and thoughtful guy. His only failing was his perpetual anger and a deep chip on his shoulder from childhood trauma. Also going directly from the streets to having nine figures in your bank account simply on account your ability to deprive other men of consciousness as quickly as possible isn't exactly a good recipe for a sound mind.

Admittedly he sounds a bit more retarded these days. I suspect it's a combination of having an aging brain that's taken a lot of hits, and the fact that he seems to smoke a fuck ton of dope now. At least he's not out beating and raping people anymore. That said, he's become a bit of a pop-culture joke and a caricature, people forget how actually terrifying he was, and how he complemented it with his words.

https://youtu.be/Chn6VlVOLVo?t=44

even if DFW were a professional fighter I don't think he could spit such a fucking brutal line after taking a guy's lid off in the ring

>>18302213
Don King living to age 90 is proof that there's no earthly justice. The man not only literally killed two men (the second, an employee, literally stomped to death for owing him just $600) but he systematically ripped off every talented and notable fighter he could get his paws around. He put a 40 year old, slurring, parkinson's addled Muhammad Ali in the ring with a prime Larry Holmes and then still had the sheer metaphysical nerve to pay him just 50 grand out of the 1.2 million he was owed.

The fact that he remained a semi-respected figure in the industry for so long is just baffling. I guess it's amazing what your soul can buy you.

The Grug Tyson vs the Chad Ayer
>This was Sir Alfred Jules Ayer (1910-89), better known as A.J. Ayer. A visiting professor at a New York college in 1987, he was at a party held by fashion designer Fernando Sanchez, and chatting with a group of designers when a woman shouted that her friend was being assaulted in the bedroom. He went in and found Tyson harassing Campbell, who had just begun her career, and asked him to stop. As Tyson said: "Do you know who the f*** I am? I'm the heavyweight champion of the world," Ayer retorted: "And I am the former Wykeham Professor of Logic. We are both pre-eminent in our field; I suggest that we talk about this like rational men." As they argued, Campbell slipped out to safety.

>>18301823
lmao

>>18314696
He is easily one of the more despicable people to ever live, not including politicians, serial killer, and such

>>18301803
Based

>>18302062
jesus christ i like mike but as i've learned more about boxing i've realized how much of a can crusher he was. that portion of the list basically just says he murdered two cab drivers a month until he was 21. those last few victories are nice but considering how badly buster douglas flushed him in fight 38 this screenshot almost makes him seem fluffy

>>18301854
>and saw everyone around me grow to resent me for being sick
they didnt.
you just think everyone is constantly thinking about you because youre narcissitic

>>18301803
Put down the books fellas

>>18301811
>>18301823
>>18301829
Fucking lost

>>18301874
>the past is just us in funny clothes
damn......

>>18301943
There is actually nothing wrong with rape, issues arise when it is blacks who commit it, or homos

>>18315563
You obviously don't have a daughter

>>18312213
>I've heard DnD gets banned sometimes
I could only see that happening in some bumfuck Arkansas prison during the satanic panic or something. Also reading fucking DnD in prison would make you look like a wuss and get you targeted for shit.

>>18314847
Well he did win the WBC belt in fight 28 and then became the triple belt holder at fight 31.

>>18301797
Have you seen his tattoos

>>18301797
Because he couldn't understand the first sentence and it scared him

>>18315598
>Also reading fucking DnD in prison would make you look like a wuss and get you targeted for shit.
You'd be surprised. Prison isn't exactly like it appears in the movies, unless you're in some maximum security bullshit which the majority of people don't go to.

>>18315809
>unless you're in some maximum security bullshit
anon the higher security the prison the less of the things you're thinking of happens
I mean, it's in the name

>>18315835
I served a 6 month prison sentence for tax evasion and it wasn't that bad. IT sucked but it wasn't hell on earth. I never saw anyone get raped or anything like that. I avoided the retard routine offenders that spend their lives in prison. I read a lot of books and met guys that were interested in literature too. THere was Dnd in there too, so I don't know what you think.

>>18301803
tolstoy shows how love is beautiful and essential in our life and how living a plain life without degeneracy is the best

>>18315858
What, you didn't file your taxes?

Or you consistently, habitually, tried to avoid filing any taxes?

>>18302324
>Emma Watson 138
>got fucked in the ass by Harvey Weinstein

>>18314649
>Also going directly from the streets to having nine figures in your bank account simply on account your ability to deprive other men of consciousness as quickly as possible isn't exactly a good recipe for a sound mind.
well said

>>18314741
>We are both pre-eminent in our field
Based former Wykeham Professor of Logic. Insulting others won't get you anywhere. You have to appeal to their sense of self-worth.

>>18315598
>I could only see that happening in some bumfuck Arkansas prison during the satanic panic or something.
Not sure if I could find the original article, basically the maps and stuff were believed to be escape plans.
I mean, in a sense it's the obvious response.

"What are you doing here? Are you planning to escape?"
"Oh no, not at all, we're just trying to save the king's daughters from the baddie magical castle"

>>18316506
>I am brainless, but money is the real brain of all things and how then should its possessor be brainless? Besides, he can buy clever people for himself, and is he who has power over the clever not more clever than the clever?

>>18316535

>>18316549
You have no idea where that quote is from, right?

>>18316560
Goethe.

>>18316563
Or Marx.
>https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/power.htm

>>18301797
he's right, Tolstoy and Dostoevsky, all the other russians are retards and their books a chritcuck garbage

>>18302324
>Tesla
>160 - 310
kek, a ten standard deviation margin of error

>>18302769
Tesla could manipulate object and build blueprients for complex machineries in his mind so who knows.

>>18302220
Strauss Khan was powerful and rich and got convicted as well despite the very dubious case (the black girl being known for another fake rape accusation, and was caught boasting on phone about the money she was going to have) - it proves the system is rigged against you in favor of blacks if you're jewish.

>>18302898
Go home, Ben. Don't you have Israeli war crimes to defend?

>>18317056
Citing any particular case is hardly a direct response to a question as to how often black men are FALSELY convicted of rape charges. First of all you'd have to furnish stats about the number that are provably false, then secondly you'd compare that number to the number convicted for not provably false accusations. This is pretty basic logical development of an argument, hard to believe I have to walk anyone through it who's acting in good faith.

The nog was filtered, what of it?

Taking advice from someone who takes blows to the head for a living probably aint great. Unless its about giving or recieveing blows to the head

>>18301943
Based, enjoy all the seething (you)s

>>18302207
I doubt Mike has an IQ that low. I'm pretty sure most people at that level couldn't even grasp or would be aware of these authors.

>>18301943
Knocked him out harder than Lennox

>>18304678
No he didn't.

>>18301797
>Pic related is an actual quote.

>>18306814
Yeah Mike Tyson is really underprivileged

>>18315858
>I served a 6 month prison sentence for tax evasion
based as fuck. how did you get caught? are you permanently in the IRS crosshairs now? do you get audited frequently?

>>18315858

sounds like you did time in the county jail. prison is usually for offenders with a minimum of one year sentences.

>>18305787
is that what a Gilded Age Chad looked like?

>>18315858
you did pussy ass time

i did 6 years in a state pen. santa fe/pen of new mexico

level 5 north for 3 years. like four months on six south for stealing shit.

dont talk about it you bitch. you would have shit your pants if you walked that yard with me