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People on /a/ are hyping this up big time and I was wondering what people on /lit/ think of Berserk, if anyone here has read it. Ive never read it but it seems like the genre is dark fantasy. So by fantasy standards, does it hold its own against the likes of lotr? If not, what about other heavy hitters in fantasy like The Wheel of Time? Or what of more modern dark fantasy like A Song of Ice and Fire? Does Berserk stand up to GRRM's work at all?

>> No.18290809

Please stop reading shitty epic fantasy works.

>> No.18290827

>>18290809
Cringe, sci fi and fantasy is good stuff

>>18290789
From what I've heard, it alternates between murderfest and deep reflections on the human condition. Sounds ASOIAF-esque

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>>18290789

LoTR or GoT are poor analogues to Berserk. It's less about the world and more about Guts and his ensemble cast. If I had to think of a similar western novel I'd say Berserk is closer to Soldier in the Mist.

Quality of the arcs and art and tone varies wildly. Localization can be awful.

>> No.18290841

>>18290809
which are shitty?

>> No.18290849

>>18290827
>ASOIAF-esque
WOW BRO HE SAID THE HUMAN CONDITION AND THEN DID THE BRUTAL MURDER THIS IS JUST LIKE MY FAVORITE YA EBIN FANTASY BOOK

>> No.18290856

>>18290789
Well it's kind of a bad work, but the darker the fantasy the cooler, so it's cooler than LotR

>> No.18290859

>>18290827
I just wonder if the human condition reflections are actually memorable, or if they amount to not much more than what youd hear from an edgy 14 year old

>> No.18290868

berserks pretty great man
no need to compare
anything well cultivated will have gravitas

>> No.18290871

Honestly, Berserk is better.

>> No.18290876

>>18290789
>So by fantasy standards, does it hold its own against the likes of lotr?
They're very different and I'd argue incomparable.
LotR is largely about the world it is set in and the characters develop mostly through the circumstances of the plot rather than their own conscience.
Berserk is more character focused and has characters develop both through the events of the plot as well as their own realizations.
I worded this terribly but hopefully you get the point

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>>18290789
> MUH MANGA BOUT BIG GUY W/ BIG SWORD IS ART
Never gonna happen.

>> No.18290893

>>18290841
Anything that's not Tolkiens poetic works, anon.

>> No.18290901

Both are equally good
Berserk has this somber, quite, but apocalyptic atmosphere.
But LoTR is more spacious and complex.

>> No.18290902

>>18290882
You don't understand he said he had BIG dreams and then he did SWORD stuff it's REAL literature!

>> No.18290909

>>18290789
Where can I read this for free online with a good translation?

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>THE HECKIN' BERSERK AUTHORINO IS DEAD NOOOOOOO

>> No.18290943

I thought Berserk had something really good going on with the Guts and Griffith relationship at first, but then Miura had to ruin it by introducing a w*man between them and that was the point it ceased as a work of art to me.

>> No.18290946

>>18290789
Berserk is the most /lit/ manga i have read and Guts and Griffith have more depth than most characters in most books.

Let the seethe begin.

>> No.18290949

honestly the golden age arc can easily muster up with the best. the rest is more hit and miss but that part of just a masterpiece from start to finish.

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>>18290789
Ashita no Joe is better.

>> No.18290962

>>18290946
Ashita no Joe and Saikyou Densetsu Kurosawa SHIT all over Berserk.

>> No.18290972

Also based Ashita no Joe anon, not a samefag by the way.

>> No.18291080

>>18290949
Found Golden Age overrated, with the constant monster-of-the-week esque villains and the superfluous characters, the only thing that's peak about it is the thematic depth.

>> No.18291087

>>18290893
like what? did tolkien actually write the lay of Luthien and the lay of children of Turin?

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>>18290882
>MUH MANGA BOUT BIG GUY W/ BIG SWORD IS ART
"Yes"

>> No.18291113

Yes, one of the most highly revered manga's ever is in fact good and worth reading. No need for poor comparisons.
Berserk is powered by it's unmatched characters, Griffith is one of the best villains of all-time, classic greek tragedy figure, to say nothing of the depth of Guts' own hero's journey. It's got it's reputation for a reason, there's really nothing else quite like it.