/lit/ - Literature

great movie; didn’t read your post

>>18277664
Many great writers died poor and unknown. History will decide whether you will be remembered, not publishing houses.

>>18277664
I think "institutional barriers" are a good cope for people who don't know how to write. We live in an age of affluence and information, imagine what writers and any other artists before had to do to get recognition, it doesn't even compare.

>>18277664
>Is that the case with publishing
Yes

>>18277664
Read 'Suicide Note' by Mitchell Heisman and share it with as many people as you can. It is the best explanation of the Jewish problem ever written.

Here's the link to the text:
https://legacy.gscdn.nl/archives/images/suicide_note.pdf
(Read pp. 32 - 625)

tl;dr: https://www.scribd.com/document/198985140/Mitchell-Heisman-s-suicide-note-overview

Alternatively you can listen to it while gaming: https://youtu.be/BiMZi5P7WJA

>>18277747
So much of the retardation in the world comes at the hands of pseuds misunderstanding Nietzsche

>>18277725
However, I forgot to add, some notorious writers weren't just as famous as they're today (Nietzsche) or were just famous locally (Bataille), or were progressively broomed from the mainstream (Bergson)
It depends on your local group, or on how much you can inffluence with your thought. Simondon, Hyppolite and (probably) Pierre Clastres are three french authors whose non-francophone legacy would be forgotten today, but they still live since people actively research them (mostly) bc of Deleuze's influece, and the influence they had in him. Local groups can help names grow stronger, for future researchers to reach them. That's why intellectuals need to form groups, to be agents between them. Would Foucault and Lacan not exist, maybe we wouldn't even look at France today

>>18277664
No need to assume: you're not a genius. A genius doesn't sincerely ask people about the existence of unknown others. If we know them they aren't unknown, defeating your question. The closest I can think of is that grammarian who wrote an epic about his shithole Massachusetts neighbourhood, but he's now published. Even during his life he was known to, and somewhat respected by contemporary literary figures. John Kennedy Toole got little traction in his lifetime yet he was published eventually. But then again, their work has been disseminated so we must realise that their talent is recognised. What's left? You want someone to tell you how they keep in secret an anonymous manuscript found bricked up behind a wall that makes In Search of Lost Time look like a Denny's menu?

>>18277664
why are you ignoring my diary?

>>18277777
Cringe but checked

>>18277777
Checked

>>18277777
CHECKED

>>18277777
No, I want to know if there are archives of excellent fiction you can find hidden on weird blogs or old hosting sites which get discovered periodically despite garnering no attention until by chance the right person comes across it, which would imply the existence of many top tier writers iced out of publication by institutional barriers. Whereas, if that's not the case and 99.9% of writing is shit, then there just aren't that many people capable of writing extremely well

pretend to be a tranny and your work will get published instantly

>>18277664
It's not uncommon for genius authors to not be appreciated in their time, that's why posterity considers them genius. People cannot begin to appreciate what is beyond their current understanding, they consider brilliant only that which falls within the scope of what they can understand, all else is incomprehensible until the general level of culture has caught up to it and its time has come. Schopenhauer, fittingly as a genius who was neglected in his time, summed it up:

"The genius, on the other hand, lights on his age like a comet into the paths of the planets, to whose well-regulated and comprehensible arrangement its wholly eccentric course is foreign. Accordingly, he cannot go hand in hand with the regular course of the culture of the times as found; on the contrary, he casts his works far out on to the path in front (just as the emperor, giving himself up to death, flings his spear among the enemy), on which time has first to overtake them… Talent is able to achieve what is beyond other people’s capacity to achieve, yet not what is beyond their capacity of apprehension; therefore it at once finds its appreciators. The achievement of genius, on the other hand, transcends not only others’ capacity of achievement, but also their capacity of apprehension; therefore they do not become immediately aware of it. Talent is like the marksman who hits a target which others cannot reach; genius is like the marksman who hits a target … which others cannot even see."

>>18277664
I do think you require some degree of success at the start to be lost and then found again by a subsequent generation. Poe comes to mind.
But there's no way to know one way or another unless you can name a brilliant author recognized today who was unknown during his lifetime.
Emily Dickinson doesn't count in my opinion. (horrid stuff)
Who was that crazy shut-in/security guard artist in Chicago (I think) whose thousands of manuscripts were discovered after he died? He might be close but from what I read it seemed awful

>>18277777
Wasted.
Never post again.

>>18277879
Darger?

>>18277901
>Darger
that's the guy! browsing his stuff again now. its immense
reminds me of Kevin Spacey's notebooks in Seven

>>18277770
Nietzsche didn't even understand Nietzsche

>>18277913
I don't think he really counts since he's never been published beyond a few samples and is basically unread.

I'm not sure Dickenson would count anyway either since I don't think she really tried to get published, did she?

if you're literally planning on writing a complex novel that doesn't simultaneously pander to low-brow tastes you're NGMI.
Just look at the meme trilogy, the bar gets lower every time.
People look at this stuff through nostalgic tints, they don't see them for what they were at the time.

>>18277664
Yeah, look at what they did with that guy Gardner, the author of Call of the Arcade. They actively ignored him although he's a genius

>>18277664
for every ignored genius there are 10,000 ignored delusions of grandeur, but obviously there will be some great works missed, you think we have somehow perfected a system to pluck the golden hair from bails of hay?

Your a retard

Youre a retard